Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-20 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/11/14, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed:

The overlay gimmick just didn't work for me after the first time it was
used here

Fortunately for you, you got to see it for free. The clients loved it
and paid lots. The client is *always* right ;-)

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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I suspect the tires were changed at least once, perhaps right after the garage 
scene. But those are tires designed for drifiting, not race tires, and I 
believe they’re somewhat hard and rugged. Grippy race tires would probably make 
those maneuvers more difficult. I’m sure drifting is difficult and requires a 
lot of practice, but in my book it’s still somewhat of a gimmick. It’s not 
about performance; it’s about the show. A good show, but a show.


 On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 There's no way that he ran that entire video on one set of tires - and they 
 were probably race tires.
 
 A phenominal exhibition of car control even if he did practice beforehand.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: '65 Mustang
 
 
 He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
 understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun but 
 more gimmick than performance, more show than go.
 
 Paul
 On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs
 
 
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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-19 Thread Ken Waller

Way too rich for my blood !

I'll stick with my Boxster S.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: '65 Mustang



On 18/11/14, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

The engine is a 410cid V8 from Roush Yates - 845hp  720lb ft of torgue in 
a

4 wheel drive chassis.


I'll go halves with you Ken on one for us ;-)

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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-19 Thread Jack Davis
Are we supposed to feel sorry for you, Ken? ;-)))

Jack

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Subject: Re: '65 Mustang

Way too rich for my blood !

I'll stick with my Boxster S.

Kenneth Waller
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Subject: Re: '65 Mustang


 On 18/11/14, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

The engine is a 410cid V8 from Roush Yates - 845hp  720lb ft of torgue in 
a
4 wheel drive chassis.

 I'll go halves with you Ken on one for us ;-)

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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-19 Thread Ken Waller
I’m sure drifting is difficult and requires a lot of practice, but in my 
book it’s still somewhat of a gimmick. It’s not about performance; it’s 
about the show. A good show, but a show.


It obviously is all about the show and definitely not the fastest way to get 
abound a corner but, I look at his car control as almost an art - to be able 
to precisely place the vehicle within a few inches of where he wants it to 
be and still have control is awesome.


BTW the tires he used were Pirelli Trofeo 'R' tires - essentially race tires 
legal for street use and used by alot of guys who track their car.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: '65 Mustang


I suspect the tires were changed at least once, perhaps right after the 
garage scene. But those are tires designed for drifiting, not race tires, 
and I believe they’re somewhat hard and rugged. Grippy race tires would 
probably make those maneuvers more difficult. I’m sure drifting is 
difficult and requires a lot of practice, but in my book it’s still 
somewhat of a gimmick. It’s not about performance; it’s about the show. A 
good show, but a show.




On Nov 18, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

There's no way that he ran that entire video on one set of tires - and 
they were probably race tires.


A phenominal exhibition of car control even if he did practice 
beforehand.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist 
pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: '65 Mustang


He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun 
but more gimmick than performance, more show than go.


Paul

On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:



http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs



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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-19 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 19/11/14, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

I'll stick with my Boxster S.


Cool. I drove a Boxster around the Porsche Experience centre at
Silverstone a couple of years ago while filming there. Then a Carrera S.
The instructor was telling me to  accelerate earlier, carry more speed
into the apex, brake later etc etc and after 20 minutes in the S, I was
really scaring myself and the heart was pumping - felt like I'd just run
a marathon. My God the braking was unbelievable. Afterwards I asked the
instructor what percentage of lap time there was left in the car that I
couldn't deliver, he replied about another 35 percent. I was astonished.
I have total respect for cars like these now.

Oddly enough I preferred the Boxster, much more user friendly.

There's a music sequence from a much longer conference video here if you
care to oggle Porsches...

https://vimeo.com/user2607591/review/29103440/2ae0917641

Cotty


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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
As a one time Por-sha driver, thank you Cotty, for lots of P-Porn. 

The overlay gimmick just didn't work for me after the first time it was used 
here.

JJMcA


On Nov 19, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

 On 19/11/14, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 I'll stick with my Boxster S.
 
 
 Cool. I drove a Boxster around the Porsche Experience centre at
 Silverstone a couple of years ago while filming there. Then a Carrera S.
 The instructor was telling me to  accelerate earlier, carry more speed
 into the apex, brake later etc etc and after 20 minutes in the S, I was
 really scaring myself and the heart was pumping - felt like I'd just run
 a marathon. My God the braking was unbelievable. Afterwards I asked the
 instructor what percentage of lap time there was left in the car that I
 couldn't deliver, he replied about another 35 percent. I was astonished.
 I have total respect for cars like these now.
 
 Oddly enough I preferred the Boxster, much more user friendly.
 
 There's a music sequence from a much longer conference video here if you
 care to oggle Porsches...
 
 https://vimeo.com/user2607591/review/29103440/2ae0917641
 
 Cotty


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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-19 Thread Ken Waller

Well done.

Seems similar to several Porsche World Roadshows I've attended and loved 
every minute of!


Others that haven't driven a Porsche probably just don't understand.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv

Subject: Re: '65 Mustang



On 19/11/14, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:


I'll stick with my Boxster S.



Cool. I drove a Boxster around the Porsche Experience centre at
Silverstone a couple of years ago while filming there. Then a Carrera S.
The instructor was telling me to  accelerate earlier, carry more speed
into the apex, brake later etc etc and after 20 minutes in the S, I was
really scaring myself and the heart was pumping - felt like I'd just run
a marathon. My God the braking was unbelievable. Afterwards I asked the
instructor what percentage of lap time there was left in the car that I
couldn't deliver, he replied about another 35 percent. I was astonished.
I have total respect for cars like these now.

Oddly enough I preferred the Boxster, much more user friendly.

There's a music sequence from a much longer conference video here if you
care to oggle Porsches...

https://vimeo.com/user2607591/review/29103440/2ae0917641

Cotty



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'65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Jack Davis


http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs

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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun but more 
gimmick than performance, more show than go.

Paul
 On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs
 
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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Jack Davis

And it went on way tooo looong
It reached a point at which I just knew there had to have been multiple tire 
changes.
Yeah, Paul, he did have trouble keeping it under the bit. HA
Must be in the running for worst video of the decade.

Jack

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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: '65 Mustang

He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun but more 
gimmick than performance, more show than go.

Paul
 On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs
 
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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Gun to watch for a couple of minutes though. I like the sound of the engine.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 And it went on way tooo looong
 It reached a point at which I just knew there had to have been multiple tire 
 changes.
 Yeah, Paul, he did have trouble keeping it under the bit. HA
 Must be in the running for worst video of the decade.
 
 Jack
 
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 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:11:53 PM
 Subject: Re: '65 Mustang
 
 He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
 understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun but 
 more gimmick than performance, more show than go.
 
 Paul
 On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs
 
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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Jack Davis
Right!

Jack

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Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:41:46 PM
Subject: Re: '65 Mustang

Gun to watch for a couple of minutes though. I like the sound of the engine.

Paul via phone

 On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 And it went on way tooo looong
 It reached a point at which I just knew there had to have been multiple tire 
 changes.
 Yeah, Paul, he did have trouble keeping it under the bit. HA
 Must be in the running for worst video of the decade.
 
 Jack
 
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 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:11:53 PM
 Subject: Re: '65 Mustang
 
 He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
 understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun but 
 more gimmick than performance, more show than go.
 
 Paul
 On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 
 http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs
 
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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/11/14, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:



http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs

I posted this in Bill's thread yesterday - great fun! Lots of practice
rubber on the tarmac but notable exceptions include the Donut place -
impressive car control. How the hell does he see in all that smoke !! 

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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Jack Davis
..or breath? Don't think that bandana would do it.

Jack

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On 18/11/14, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:



http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs

I posted this in Bill's thread yesterday - great fun! Lots of practice
rubber on the tarmac but notable exceptions include the Donut place -
impressive car control. How the hell does he see in all that smoke !! 

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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Ken Waller
There's no way that he ran that entire video on one set of tires - and they 
were probably race tires.


A phenominal exhibition of car control even if he did practice beforehand.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: '65 Mustang


He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun but 
more gimmick than performance, more show than go.


Paul

On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:



http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs



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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Ken Waller
The engine is a 410cid V8 from Roush Yates - 845hp  720lb ft of torgue in a 
4 wheel drive chassis.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Subject: Re: '65 Mustang


Gun to watch for a couple of minutes though. I like the sound of the 
engine.


Paul via phone


On Nov 18, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:


And it went on way tooo looong
It reached a point at which I just knew there had to have been multiple 
tire changes.

Yeah, Paul, he did have trouble keeping it under the bit. HA
Must be in the running for worst video of the decade.

Jack

- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 1:11:53 PM
Subject: Re: '65 Mustang

He ruined his tires before he left the garage, so after that it was 
understandable that he had a hard time keeping it hooked up. :-). Fun but 
more gimmick than performance, more show than go.


Paul

On Nov 18, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:



http://youtu.be/5qanlirrRWs



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Re: '65 Mustang

2014-11-18 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 18/11/14, Ken Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:

The engine is a 410cid V8 from Roush Yates - 845hp  720lb ft of torgue in a 
4 wheel drive chassis.

I'll go halves with you Ken on one for us ;-)

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