Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 9:45 AM, P.J. Alling 
wrote:

> Let's be fair, haven't all your recent Governors looked or acted like
> extras from the Sopranos?


Not all of them.  This one was a friend and political ally:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Todd_Whitman

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-04 Thread P.J. Alling 

That's hardly fair, Christie does cast a large shadow.

On 12/2/2016 11:03 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:37 PM, John  wrote:


I'll see your Chris Christie & raise you Pat McCrory.


McCrory is shy and self-effacing compared to Christie, and would disappear
into his shadow.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-04 Thread P.J. Alling 
Let's be fair, haven't all your recent Governors looked or acted like 
extras from the Sopranos?


On 12/2/2016 4:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in one sitting.


You can't imagine how much extra snark we have lying around here.  What
other state could have a guy that looks and acts like an extra from the
Sopranos for its governor?

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-04 Thread P.J. Alling 

Wait, isn't snark an inexhaustible resource in New Jersey?

On 12/2/2016 3:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On December 1, 2016 9:49:31 PM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, John  wrote:


We're using common names, while Dan is referring to Taxonomic
classification.


Not to be argumentative, but no, I'm also using a common name, just the
correct one.

Careful, if you keep that up you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in 
one sitting.


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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:37 PM, John  wrote:

> I'll see your Chris Christie & raise you Pat McCrory.


McCrory is shy and self-effacing compared to Christie, and would disappear
into his shadow.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-02 Thread John 

On 12/2/2016 4:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in one sitting.



You can't imagine how much extra snark we have lying around here.  What
other state could have a guy that looks and acts like an extra from the
Sopranos for its governor?

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I'll see your Chris Christie & raise you Pat McCrory.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-02 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in one sitting.


You can't imagine how much extra snark we have lying around here.  What
other state could have a guy that looks and acts like an extra from the
Sopranos for its governor?

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-02 Thread Alan C 

Now, now, Lewis.

Alan C

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On December 1, 2016 9:49:31 PM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
<danmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, John <sesso...@earthlink.net> wrote:


We're using common names, while Dan is referring to Taxonomic
classification.



Not to be argumentative, but no, I'm also using a common name, just the
correct one.


Careful, if you keep that up you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark 
in one sitting.




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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-02 Thread Larry Colen 


On December 1, 2016 9:49:31 PM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola"  
wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, John  wrote:
>
>> We're using common names, while Dan is referring to Taxonomic
>> classification.
>>
>
>Not to be argumentative, but no, I'm also using a common name, just the
>correct one.

Careful, if you keep that up you'll use New Jersey's entire supply of snark in 
one sitting.

>
>Dan Matyola
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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:31 PM, John  wrote:

> We're using common names, while Dan is referring to Taxonomic
> classification.
>

Not to be argumentative, but no, I'm also using a common name, just the
correct one.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-01 Thread John 

We're using common names, while Dan is referring to Taxonomic
classification.

Dedicated bird watchers know the scientific classification down to the
sub-species, and can't understand why common names are good enough for
the rest of us.

Most people wouldn't know a Cathartes aura meridionalis from a hole in
the ground, but if you tell them you've seen a Turkey Buzzard, they'll
know what you mean right away.

On 12/1/2016 10:07 AM, Alan C wrote:

Nevertheless, there are many references to "Turkey Buzzard" on the web.

Alan C

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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Alan C  wrote:


I've heard several US visitors to Kruger refer to our similar looking
Ground Hornbills as Turkey Buzzards so the term must be in common usage
over there.



Not among those who know birds.  Every country has its share of the
ill-informed.  Ours has even more than its share.

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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-01 Thread Jack Davis 
Well said, Alan!

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> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
> 
> Dan, I'm not trying to raise your BP. There is plenty cr*p on the web. I 
> agree that Vulture is the correct terminology, Buzzard seems to be used 
> colloquially as a sort of common name. There is a lot of that in SA too. The 
> "real" birders get quite hot under the collar when the "uninformed" use old 
> or common names in earshot. I think some people get a warped sort of pleasure 
> doing it. That's why I never got into birding groups - it immediately becomes 
> a sort of competition.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 5:10 PM
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>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Nevertheless, there are many references to "Turkey Buzzard" on the web.
> 
> 
> Well then, I stand corrected.  If it's on the web, it must be correct.  
> 
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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-01 Thread Alan C 
Dan, I'm not trying to raise your BP. There is plenty cr*p on the web. I 
agree that Vulture is the correct terminology, Buzzard seems to be used 
colloquially as a sort of common name. There is a lot of that in SA too. The 
"real" birders get quite hot under the collar when the "uninformed" use old 
or common names in earshot. I think some people get a warped sort of 
pleasure doing it. That's why I never got into birding groups - it 
immediately becomes a sort of competition.


Alan C

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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Alan C <c...@lantic.net> wrote:


Nevertheless, there are many references to "Turkey Buzzard" on the web.



Well then, I stand corrected.  If it's on the web, it must be correct.  


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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola 
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:07 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> Nevertheless, there are many references to "Turkey Buzzard" on the web.


Well then, I stand corrected.  If it's on the web, it must be correct.  


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Re: Buzzard Pair/Hint of Fall (Dan)

2016-12-01 Thread Alan C 

Nevertheless, there are many references to "Turkey Buzzard" on the web.

Alan C

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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:17 PM
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Alan C  wrote:


I've heard several US visitors to Kruger refer to our similar looking
Ground Hornbills as Turkey Buzzards so the term must be in common usage
over there.



Not among those who know birds.  Every country has its share of the
ill-informed.  Ours has even more than its share.

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