F35-135 Minimum-Focus Distance at Wide End

2005-11-02 Thread greglove
I picked up an old F35-135/3.5-4.5 for my D to use in places where I
wanted to go from normal to wide, like family attending kid's sports game,
without a lot of lens swapping (close shots of family on the sidelines,
long shots of kid playing on the field). I understood it was sharp lens,
though that was based on only one quote at Stan's site.

I haven't looked at test shots yet, but I'm startled at the very long
minimum-focus distance at the wide end. My rough measurement shows that
it's around 15 feet! That makes it useless as a normal for family snaps;
I'd instead have to step way back and zoom in closer to 135mm, where it
focuses the closest.

At 135mm, my rough measurement showed that it focused down to about 4' 9,
 longer than the official 0.75 meters.

It has 3 extra focus markers marked 135, 50,  35. The one marked 35 seems
to suggest that the minimum focus distance at 35mm is around 7 feet.

The FA24-90 and the FA28-105/3.2-4.5 both let me focus very close at the
wide end -- roughly 1.5 feet for both -- even though not quite as close as
at the long end.

Given this limitation of the 35-135, I'd be much better off using the
28-105 and cropping more at the long end.

Is the 35-135 very unusual this way? Is something likely wrong with my
copy that wide-end minimum focus is more like 15 feet than the seemingly
marked 7 feet? But even 7 feet is really long compared to the others. Is
35-135 a difficult range to design?


Many Thanks,

Greg



RE: F35-135 Minimum-Focus Distance at Wide End

2005-11-02 Thread Trevor Bailey
G'day Greg.
I have 2 of these SMC F 35-135 lenses.
One lives on the PZ-1p.
The other lives on the *ist Ds.

I've found it to be a very good lens on both the Ds and the -1p.
35mm focus is about 8 to 10 feet (I haven't actually measured it
accurately).
135 mm focus is about the same.
What body are you using?
It's a shame it doesn't focus closer as it is a very sharp lens with a
very usable zoom range.
The second lens was CLAed by C.R.Kennedy in Melbourne a few months ago.
For a walk around lens, it's great. It allows you to reach further than
a 28-105 and be less intrusive in public.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor.
Grafton,
Australia



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Subject: F35-135 Minimum-Focus Distance at Wide End


I picked up an old F35-135/3.5-4.5 for my D to use in places where I
wanted to go from normal to wide, like family attending kid's sports
game,
without a lot of lens swapping (close shots of family on the sidelines,
long shots of kid playing on the field). I understood it was sharp lens,
though that was based on only one quote at Stan's site.

I haven't looked at test shots yet, but I'm startled at the very long
minimum-focus distance at the wide end. My rough measurement shows that
it's around 15 feet! That makes it useless as a normal for family snaps;
I'd instead have to step way back and zoom in closer to 135mm, where it
focuses the closest.

At 135mm, my rough measurement showed that it focused down to about 4'
9,
 longer than the official 0.75 meters.

It has 3 extra focus markers marked 135, 50,  35. The one marked 35
seems
to suggest that the minimum focus distance at 35mm is around 7 feet.

The FA24-90 and the FA28-105/3.2-4.5 both let me focus very close at the
wide end -- roughly 1.5 feet for both -- even though not quite as close
as
at the long end.

Given this limitation of the 35-135, I'd be much better off using the
28-105 and cropping more at the long end.

Is the 35-135 very unusual this way? Is something likely wrong with my
copy that wide-end minimum focus is more like 15 feet than the seemingly
marked 7 feet? But even 7 feet is really long compared to the others. Is
35-135 a difficult range to design?


Many Thanks,

Greg





RE: F35-135 Minimum-Focus Distance at Wide End

2005-11-02 Thread Trevor Bailey
Oops.
Forgot to mention.
The Macro focus also helps for close focus.
Some times at 35mm you can actually get close focus 2 to 3 feet by going
to macro at 135.

Regards, Trevor




Re: F35-135 Minimum-Focus Distance at Wide End

2005-11-02 Thread Charles Robinson

On Nov 2, 2005, at 5:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Given this limitation of the 35-135, I'd be much better off using the
28-105 and cropping more at the long end.

Is the 35-135 very unusual this way? Is something likely wrong with my
copy that wide-end minimum focus is more like 15 feet than the  
seemingly
marked 7 feet? But even 7 feet is really long compared to the  
others. Is

35-135 a difficult range to design?



Can't speak to the design, but I know I looked at that very same lens  
in the used department of National Camera here in Minneapolis last  
winter.
Fresh off the purchase of my DS, I was dying to fill out my  
collection of autofocus zooms, and this was sitting in the case with  
a very low price.


The loong minimum-focus distance is what prompted me to leave it  
there and look for something else.  Otherwise, it seemed like an OK  
lens.  So, while I don't have the exact distances marked off to  
compare against the one you've got, I do recall that you do have to  
step quite a ways back to photograph someone who is in the same room  
with you.


I get better close-focus results with my Tamron XR 28-200!

 -Charles

--
Charles Robinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Minneapolis, MN
http://charles.robinsontwins.org



Re: F35-135 Minimum-Focus Distance at Wide End

2005-11-02 Thread Gonz
I have this lens and regret I bought it, even if I paid very littler for 
it.  Its not very sharp, at least not my copy, and the min focus thing 
is a real pain.  Because of these two issues, I rarely use it anymore, 
and resort to my 24-90 when I need a range like that.


rg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I picked up an old F35-135/3.5-4.5 for my D to use in places where I
wanted to go from normal to wide, like family attending kid's sports game,
without a lot of lens swapping (close shots of family on the sidelines,
long shots of kid playing on the field). I understood it was sharp lens,
though that was based on only one quote at Stan's site.

I haven't looked at test shots yet, but I'm startled at the very long
minimum-focus distance at the wide end. My rough measurement shows that
it's around 15 feet! That makes it useless as a normal for family snaps;
I'd instead have to step way back and zoom in closer to 135mm, where it
focuses the closest.

At 135mm, my rough measurement showed that it focused down to about 4' 9,
 longer than the official 0.75 meters.

It has 3 extra focus markers marked 135, 50,  35. The one marked 35 seems
to suggest that the minimum focus distance at 35mm is around 7 feet.

The FA24-90 and the FA28-105/3.2-4.5 both let me focus very close at the
wide end -- roughly 1.5 feet for both -- even though not quite as close as
at the long end.

Given this limitation of the 35-135, I'd be much better off using the
28-105 and cropping more at the long end.

Is the 35-135 very unusual this way? Is something likely wrong with my
copy that wide-end minimum focus is more like 15 feet than the seemingly
marked 7 feet? But even 7 feet is really long compared to the others. Is
35-135 a difficult range to design?


Many Thanks,

Greg