Re: REV: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Actually, it's a little top-heavy to make a good paperweight. I've got a nice little Zeiss lens that works better for that. Jim Shel Belinkoff wrote: Make some 16x20's on film, throw in some shots with wider apertures like 40 and 5.6, then we'll talk. If all you're going to do is use the center of the lens because of the tiny APS sensor, and make little digi prints, stopping way down like F16 and F22, well, that's something else. The bottom of a Coke bottle could be made to look good. Of course, my paperweight comment was based on the A version, although everyone says is the same as the F. Shel
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark (or Jim) wrote: From memory, I think the F24-50 was every bit as good as the FA24-90 throughout its (admittedly smaller) zoom range. That's not bad at all. I have nmever tried the FA24-90mm, but I own a F24-50mm. I have not used it to much, but everything I got (*istD) was quite useable, even for professional (sell-able) work. It may be a bit soft (perhaps not stunning sharpness), but still quite constrasty and overall very pleasant photographs. I'll definitely keep on using it - especially as a walk arround lens (equivalent to 36-75mm on a digital body). It's one of the lenses in my recent comparison test: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/24mm.htm http://www.robertstech.com/temp/28mm.htm http://www.robertstech.com/temp/50mm.htm http://www.robertstech.com/temp/70mm.htm Lenses are: FA*24/2.0 FA28/2.8AL FA50/1.4 F24-50/4.0 FA24-90/3.5-4.5 Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8 Tamron 17-35/2.8-4 -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Mark (or Jim) wrote: From memory, I think the F24-50 was every bit as good as the FA24-90 throughout its (admittedly smaller) zoom range. That's not bad at all. I have nmever tried the FA24-90mm, but I own a F 24-50mm. I have not used it to much, but everything I got (*istD) was quite useable, even for professional (sell-able) work. It may be a bit soft (perhaps not stunning sharpness), but still quite constrasty and overall very pleasant photographs. I'll definitely keep on using it - especially as a walk arround lens (equivalent to 36-75mm on a digital body). All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. januar 2006 01:55 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm Jim Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a group team photo for my son's swim team last year with both the 24-50 A (at 24mm) on a K1000, and also with a 24mm f2.8 Nikkor-N on a Nikon F2 Photomic, and the ones shot with the Pentax have less distortion and are sharper! And I might add that the 24mm f2.8 Nikkor is a fine lens. I was very surprised and have been pleasantly surprised with everything I've shot with the 24-50 A. Your results obviously may vary. I have a series of test shots I took last summer, comparing various lenses from 24mm to 70mm, IIRC. These included the F24-50, FA24-90, FA*24/2.0, FA28/2.8, FA50/1.4 and Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8 I've been meaning to do a proper conversion of all the RAW files and put 'em on the web for viewing. Perhaps I'll get it together enough to do so this week. From memory, I think the F24-50 was every bit as good as the FA24-90 throughout its (admittedly smaller) zoom range. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
REV: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Examples. These were done with the SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18822934/in/set-443442/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18819571/in/set-443442/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18755784/in/set-443442/ (by my mistake done at ISO 3200 :-( ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18827754/in/set-443442/ I admit, quite ordenary shots, but stil pleasant photographs, I think. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 12. januar 2006 23:08 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm Mark (or Jim) wrote: From memory, I think the F24-50 was every bit as good as the FA24-90 throughout its (admittedly smaller) zoom range. That's not bad at all. I have nmever tried the FA24-90mm, but I own a F 24-50mm. I have not used it to much, but everything I got (*istD) was quite useable, even for professional (sell-able) work. It may be a bit soft (perhaps not stunning sharpness), but still quite constrasty and overall very pleasant photographs. I'll definitely keep on using it - especially as a walk arround lens (equivalent to 36-75mm on a digital body). All the best Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 9. januar 2006 01:55 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm Jim Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a group team photo for my son's swim team last year with both the 24-50 A (at 24mm) on a K1000, and also with a 24mm f2.8 Nikkor-N on a Nikon F2 Photomic, and the ones shot with the Pentax have less distortion and are sharper! And I might add that the 24mm f2.8 Nikkor is a fine lens. I was very surprised and have been pleasantly surprised with everything I've shot with the 24-50 A. Your results obviously may vary. I have a series of test shots I took last summer, comparing various lenses from 24mm to 70mm, IIRC. These included the F24-50, FA24-90, FA*24/2.0, FA28/2.8, FA50/1.4 and Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8 I've been meaning to do a proper conversion of all the RAW files and put 'em on the web for viewing. Perhaps I'll get it together enough to do so this week. From memory, I think the F24-50 was every bit as good as the FA24-90 throughout its (admittedly smaller) zoom range. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: REV: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Mighty nice shots, taken with that paperweight! I think the 24-50 has gotten a bad rap. Jim Jens Bladt wrote: Examples. These were done with the SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18822934/in/set-443442/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18819571/in/set-443442/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18755784/in/set-443442/ (by my mistake done at ISO 3200 :-( ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18827754/in/set-443442/ I admit, quite ordenary shots, but stil pleasant photographs, I think. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk
Re: REV: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Make some 16x20's on film, throw in some shots with wider apertures like 40 and 5.6, then we'll talk. If all you're going to do is use the center of the lens because of the tiny APS sensor, and make little digi prints, stopping way down like F16 and F22, well, that's something else. The bottom of a Coke bottle could be made to look good. Of course, my paperweight comment was based on the A version, although everyone says is the same as the F. Shel [Original Message] From: Jim Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Date: 1/12/2006 5:27:31 PM Subject: Re: REV: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm Mighty nice shots, taken with that paperweight! I think the 24-50 has gotten a bad rap. Jim Jens Bladt wrote: Examples. These were done with the SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18822934/in/set-443442/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18819571/in/set-443442/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18755784/in/set-443442/ (by my mistake done at ISO 3200 :-( ) http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/18827754/in/set-443442/
Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Any good or bad? Tempting on a 35mm camera... -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
It's supposed to be the same optically as the Pentax-A SMC 24-50. Didn't get good reviews online but I've found it to be great lens. One of my favorites. J. Thomas Thibouille wrote: Any good or bad? Tempting on a 35mm camera... -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
I had the A and was so happy to find someone to take it off my hands. Overall, it was amongst the worst lenses I ever owned, if not the worst. Too soft throughout the range, too much distortion ... contrast seemed a bit low for my taste. Great paperweight, though. Shel [Original Message] From: Jim Thomas It's supposed to be the same optically as the Pentax-A SMC 24-50. Didn't get good reviews online but I've found it to be great lens. One of my favorites. J. Thomas Thibouille wrote: Any good or bad? Tempting on a 35mm camera... -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Like I said, most of the users polled panned the lens. Mine is a gem. Jim Shel Belinkoff wrote: I had the A and was so happy to find someone to take it off my hands. Overall, it was amongst the worst lenses I ever owned, if not the worst. Too soft throughout the range, too much distortion ... contrast seemed a bit low for my taste. Great paperweight, though. Shel
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Another friend of mine has an A series version too and loves it. I've seen his photos (Pentax DS body), and have to say that his example is producing excellent results. On the DS, this is the perfect replacement for the 'traditional' 35-70mm zoom used with film SLRs. Godfrey On Jan 8, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: Like I said, most of the users polled panned the lens. Mine is a gem. Jim Shel Belinkoff wrote: I had the A and was so happy to find someone to take it off my hands. Overall, it was amongst the worst lenses I ever owned, if not the worst. Too soft throughout the range, too much distortion ... contrast seemed a bit low for my taste. Great paperweight, though. Shel
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Yeah that's why I'm looking at it :) On the DS, this is the perfect replacement for the 'traditional' 35-70mm zoom used with film SLRs. Godfrey -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any good or bad? Tempting on a 35mm camera... I have one and have found it to be very good indeed. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
SMCA 24-50 maybe FS (was Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm)
Yeah, yeah, I know it's not Friday, but I have an SMC-A 24-50 F4 that I don't use because I'm shooting primes almost exclusively these days. My impression of it was that it was unremarkable (neither good nor bad) compared to my other lenses in its focal range. Anyone want to buy it? It's in KEH Exc or maybe Exc+ condition and comes with caps and matching Pentax fitted rubber screw-in lens hood. KEH has an Exc sample for $205. Make me an offer. --Mark
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
I like the A version as well and I did have the F version for a while. Very good construction on the A version, not bad at all on the F version (a bit better than the F 35-70, at least) and optically, quite good -- very good to excellent at least. I have an 8 x 12 enlargement of a black-and-white winter scene taken with the A 24-50 and a Super Program and it holds up very nicely at that size. I did experience some serious flare in a difficult lighting situation with the F lens, at the 24mm setting (even with an appropriate hood in use), but still a very good lens overall. I think the 24-90 FA is quite a bit better through the same 24-50 range and handles flare better, but this lens can be found for about a third of the price. Joe On Jan 8, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: It's supposed to be the same optically as the Pentax-A SMC 24-50. Didn't get good reviews online but I've found it to be great lens. One of my favorites. J. Thomas Thibouille wrote: Any good or bad? Tempting on a 35mm camera... -- Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ...
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
I shot a group team photo for my son's swim team last year with both the 24-50 A (at 24mm) on a K1000, and also with a 24mm f2.8 Nikkor-N on a Nikon F2 Photomic, and the ones shot with the Pentax have less distortion and are sharper! And I might add that the 24mm f2.8 Nikkor is a fine lens. I was very surprised and have been pleasantly surprised with everything I've shot with the 24-50 A. Your results obviously may vary. Jim Joe Wilensky wrote: I like the A version as well and I did have the F version for a while. Very good construction on the A version, not bad at all on the F version (a bit better than the F 35-70, at least) and optically, quite good -- very good to excellent at least. I have an 8 x 12 enlargement of a black-and-white winter scene taken with the A 24-50 and a Super Program and it holds up very nicely at that size. I did experience some serious flare in a difficult lighting situation with the F lens, at the 24mm setting (even with an appropriate hood in use), but still a very good lens overall. I think the 24-90 FA is quite a bit better through the same 24-50 range and handles flare better, but this lens can be found for about a third of the price. Joe
Re: Feedback: SMC Pentax-F 24-50mm
Jim Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I shot a group team photo for my son's swim team last year with both the 24-50 A (at 24mm) on a K1000, and also with a 24mm f2.8 Nikkor-N on a Nikon F2 Photomic, and the ones shot with the Pentax have less distortion and are sharper! And I might add that the 24mm f2.8 Nikkor is a fine lens. I was very surprised and have been pleasantly surprised with everything I've shot with the 24-50 A. Your results obviously may vary. I have a series of test shots I took last summer, comparing various lenses from 24mm to 70mm, IIRC. These included the F24-50, FA24-90, FA*24/2.0, FA28/2.8, FA50/1.4 and Tokina 28-70/2.6-2.8 I've been meaning to do a proper conversion of all the RAW files and put 'em on the web for viewing. Perhaps I'll get it together enough to do so this week. From memory, I think the F24-50 was every bit as good as the FA24-90 throughout its (admittedly smaller) zoom range. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
