Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
On 11/01/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They look high to me, unless Australian Dollerettes have lost lots of value lately. We've been riding relatively level against most world currencies recently, excepting the US$ which has of course diminished in value, so we are buying way more of them per $Oz compared to last year ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
On Jan 11, 2007, at 1:26 PM, John Francis wrote: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg That evokes memories of low-flying Hercules. What an amazing noise they make. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
Ah, but I'm only showing you the shots that worked :-) Shh - that's a secret. Only show what you believe is your best work. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) Ah, but I'm only showing you the shots that worked :-) I shot seven or more rolls of film that day at the animal park, and at least that many on almost all of the motorsports weekends. On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 08:05:12PM -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'd say not only is the lens pretty good but your technique is great to get what you got in those situations. Well done! Kenneth Waller (owner of a 600mmFA who's aware of some of the issues of successfully using a big lens.) - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:38:08AM +1000, jim wrote: Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would The big zoom lists for around $12,000 US, with street prices in the region of $8000 US. It's a monster of a lens: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg (that's a PZ-1p hanging off the back of it, for a size check) but it certainly produces the results: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap313.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap413.jpg or, for a change of pace: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/PortlandPitStop.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/CityStreets.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg The last two were taken with a *ist D; the others on film. The CityStreets shot was taken at 250; FatAlbert at 600. See also http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/250-600.html I was fortunate enough to be browsing this list a few years ago[1] when somebody mentioned that Charlotte Camera had a used 250-600 being listed at a mere $3200. Five minutes later I posted a followup message saying they didn't have one any longer. In the intervening years I've only seen one other used one being offered, and that went for something like $4000. [1] From the modified dates on those files, apparently it was back in 1999. That's somewhat more than a few years ago! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
jim wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:10 -0500, Adam Maas wrote: Potentially, since their lens protocol is a fairly blatant copy of the EOS protocol. IIRC they originally tried to licence EF mount. got turned down and decided to use a K-mount derived Bayonet on a mount that's otherwise EOS. Sigma-mount lenses can be modified to work fully on EOS bodies with a mount replacement. That is interesting. I thought I saw somewhere they use a K bayonet mount but is obvious that is set up different linkage and electricly wise. wounder what the register length is? ie from sensor to mount. James AFAIK it's a 44mm register, really just EF mount with a K bayonet screwed on. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
I fired off an email to sigma with my special email gun and actually got a response. Discovered the lens I have is an older model and they don't have bits to update it. looks like a MZ7 with a sigma zoom will be up for sale soon. My K10D like some others have discovered, has a very weird shutter release. The first indent cannot be felt at all and have more then once confused the 2nd indent with the first one and fired the shutter. The finest touch turns the meter on. Will take a while to get used to. Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:38:08AM +1000, jim wrote: Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would The big zoom lists for around $12,000 US, with street prices in the region of $8000 US. It's a monster of a lens: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg (that's a PZ-1p hanging off the back of it, for a size check) but it certainly produces the results: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap313.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap413.jpg or, for a change of pace: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/PortlandPitStop.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/CityStreets.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg The last two were taken with a *ist D; the others on film. The CityStreets shot was taken at 250; FatAlbert at 600. See also http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/250-600.html I was fortunate enough to be browsing this list a few years ago[1] when somebody mentioned that Charlotte Camera had a used 250-600 being listed at a mere $3200. Five minutes later I posted a followup message saying they didn't have one any longer. In the intervening years I've only seen one other used one being offered, and that went for something like $4000. [1] From the modified dates on those files, apparently it was back in 1999. That's somewhat more than a few years ago! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
Quoting jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My K10D like some others have discovered, has a very weird shutter release. The first indent cannot be felt at all and have more then once confused the 2nd indent with the first one and fired the shutter. The finest touch turns the meter on. Will take a while to get used to. Mine feels Normal Dave Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
They look high to me, unless Australian Dollerettes have lost lots of value lately. jim wrote: I fired off an email to sigma with my special email gun and actually got a response. Discovered the lens I have is an older model and they don't have bits to update it. looks like a MZ7 with a sigma zoom will be up for sale soon. My K10D like some others have discovered, has a very weird shutter release. The first indent cannot be felt at all and have more then once confused the 2nd indent with the first one and fired the shutter. The finest touch turns the meter on. Will take a while to get used to. Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would James -- -- The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
I'd say not only is the lens pretty good but your technique is great to get what you got in those situations. Well done! Kenneth Waller (owner of a 600mmFA who's aware of some of the issues of successfully using a big lens.) - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:38:08AM +1000, jim wrote: Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would The big zoom lists for around $12,000 US, with street prices in the region of $8000 US. It's a monster of a lens: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg (that's a PZ-1p hanging off the back of it, for a size check) but it certainly produces the results: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap313.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap413.jpg or, for a change of pace: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/PortlandPitStop.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/CityStreets.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg The last two were taken with a *ist D; the others on film. The CityStreets shot was taken at 250; FatAlbert at 600. See also http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/250-600.html I was fortunate enough to be browsing this list a few years ago[1] when somebody mentioned that Charlotte Camera had a used 250-600 being listed at a mere $3200. Five minutes later I posted a followup message saying they didn't have one any longer. In the intervening years I've only seen one other used one being offered, and that went for something like $4000. [1] From the modified dates on those files, apparently it was back in 1999. That's somewhat more than a few years ago! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
Beautiful shots, John. A superb lens in the hands of an excellent photographer yields great results. Didn't you buy the lens just a few days before that Long Beach race where we met? I remember you mentioning it at the time, but I was so overwhelmed with what I had to shoot there that everything else rhat happened that day is a fog. Paul On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'd say not only is the lens pretty good but your technique is great to get what you got in those situations. Well done! Kenneth Waller (owner of a 600mmFA who's aware of some of the issues of successfully using a big lens.) - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:38:08AM +1000, jim wrote: Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would The big zoom lists for around $12,000 US, with street prices in the region of $8000 US. It's a monster of a lens: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg (that's a PZ-1p hanging off the back of it, for a size check) but it certainly produces the results: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap313.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap413.jpg or, for a change of pace: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/PortlandPitStop.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/CityStreets.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg The last two were taken with a *ist D; the others on film. The CityStreets shot was taken at 250; FatAlbert at 600. See also http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/250-600.html I was fortunate enough to be browsing this list a few years ago[1] when somebody mentioned that Charlotte Camera had a used 250-600 being listed at a mere $3200. Five minutes later I posted a followup message saying they didn't have one any longer. In the intervening years I've only seen one other used one being offered, and that went for something like $4000. [1] From the modified dates on those files, apparently it was back in 1999. That's somewhat more than a few years ago! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
I agree. But Pentax photographic equipment is usually pricier than in North America. Cheers, Dave On 1/11/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They look high to me, unless Australian Dollerettes have lost lots of value lately. jim wrote: I fired off an email to sigma with my special email gun and actually got a response. Discovered the lens I have is an older model and they don't have bits to update it. looks like a MZ7 with a sigma zoom will be up for sale soon. My K10D like some others have discovered, has a very weird shutter release. The first indent cannot be felt at all and have more then once confused the 2nd indent with the first one and fired the shutter. The finest touch turns the meter on. Will take a while to get used to. Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
- Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg That is an incredibly surreal picture. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:20 PM, William Robb wrote: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg That is an incredibly surreal picture. Surreal, DaDa art ... Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
It appears I bought this lens some time in 1999, judging from the modification dates on the initial comparison pages. That's some time before the Long Beach race, which was April 2001 IIRC. The San Diego Wild Animal Park shots were just about the first time I used this lens. The other shots are spread over the intervening years - it's not too surprising that I can come up with a handful of decent shots over a seven-year period! I've learned a few things since then, too; I think the shot of the group of antelope could be improved (I'd like more DOF, and a better, more rigid monopod; the shot of Fat Albert has significantly less camera-shake induced blur). Of course using a K10D would help with that, too :-) Next time I go back to San Diego (maybe later this year?) I'll have another try. On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 09:34:14PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: Beautiful shots, John. A superb lens in the hands of an excellent photographer yields great results. Didn't you buy the lens just a few days before that Long Beach race where we met? I remember you mentioning it at the time, but I was so overwhelmed with what I had to shoot there that everything else rhat happened that day is a fog. Paul On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:05 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'd say not only is the lens pretty good but your technique is great to get what you got in those situations. Well done! Kenneth Waller (owner of a 600mmFA who's aware of some of the issues of successfully using a big lens.) - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:38:08AM +1000, jim wrote: Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would The big zoom lists for around $12,000 US, with street prices in the region of $8000 US. It's a monster of a lens: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg (that's a PZ-1p hanging off the back of it, for a size check) but it certainly produces the results: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap313.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap413.jpg or, for a change of pace: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/PortlandPitStop.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/CityStreets.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg The last two were taken with a *ist D; the others on film. The CityStreets shot was taken at 250; FatAlbert at 600. See also http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/250-600.html I was fortunate enough to be browsing this list a few years ago[1] when somebody mentioned that Charlotte Camera had a used 250-600 being listed at a mere $3200. Five minutes later I posted a followup message saying they didn't have one any longer. In the intervening years I've only seen one other used one being offered, and that went for something like $4000. [1] From the modified dates on those files, apparently it was back in 1999. That's somewhat more than a few years ago! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:20:52PM -0600, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: John Francis Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg That is an incredibly surreal picture. Isn't it? Of course it wasn't taken by me - my wife (and her little Nikon point-and-shoot compact 35mm camera) get the kudos. I just love the balance of the angles of the lens and the neck of the giraffe, and the other giraffe just visible in the distance. I think this one's pretty weird, too (one of mine this time): http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap115.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but........(update)
Ah, but I'm only showing you the shots that worked :-) I shot seven or more rolls of film that day at the animal park, and at least that many on almost all of the motorsports weekends. On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 08:05:12PM -0500, Kenneth Waller wrote: I'd say not only is the lens pretty good but your technique is great to get what you got in those situations. Well done! Kenneth Waller (owner of a 600mmFA who's aware of some of the issues of successfully using a big lens.) - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but(update) On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 09:38:08AM +1000, jim wrote: Have found a site that has for sale several new lens for sale such as Pentax - SMC P-A 15mm F3.5 Lens for $3.146 aus Pentax - SMC P-A 50mm F1.2 Lens for $1.582 aus Pentax - SMC P-FA 250-600mm F5.6 ED IF Lens for $17.925 aus Are these prices about right? The finance and pleasure minister will need to approve first, tho she would like the long zoom just as much as i would The big zoom lists for around $12,000 US, with street prices in the region of $8000 US. It's a monster of a lens: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap615.jpg (that's a PZ-1p hanging off the back of it, for a size check) but it certainly produces the results: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap313.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/gallery/images/sdwap413.jpg or, for a change of pace: http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/PortlandPitStop.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/CityStreets.jpg http://www.panix.com/~johnf/temp/FatAlbert.jpg The last two were taken with a *ist D; the others on film. The CityStreets shot was taken at 250; FatAlbert at 600. See also http://www.panix.com/~johnf/digital/250-600.html I was fortunate enough to be browsing this list a few years ago[1] when somebody mentioned that Charlotte Camera had a used 250-600 being listed at a mere $3200. Five minutes later I posted a followup message saying they didn't have one any longer. In the intervening years I've only seen one other used one being offered, and that went for something like $4000. [1] From the modified dates on those files, apparently it was back in 1999. That's somewhat more than a few years ago! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
Strange how we almost never hear of that kind fo problem with Tokina/Tamron/Cosina etc. 3rd party lenses. Really strange, no? Of course, Sigma sells a lot more lens too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:09 AM, Thibouille wrote: Strange how we almost never hear of that kind fo problem with Tokina/Tamron/Cosina etc. 3rd party lenses. Really strange, no? Of course, Sigma sells a lot more lens too. Sigma is simply the worst when it comes to quality. And they have a huge marketing budget. Buy Pentax lenses. They're better performers, 99.9% of the time anyway. The Pentax FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be an excellent choice for a lens in this focal length range. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
Strange how we almost never hear of that kind fo problem with Tokina/Tamron/Cosina etc. 3rd party lenses. Really strange, no? Of course, Sigma sells a lot more lens too. I'm pretty sure those other companies pay for the rights to make their lenses compatible, which would mean they're given whatever compatibility information they need. I could be wrong, but it makes sense. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
I'm not sure for other brands but my retailer (which is Pentax fan/collector and usually reliable) says Sigma defenitely does reverse-engeneering. He does also notice that whatever the mount (even for Canon etc.), he has a way higher number of returns/warranty repairs with Sigma stuff. He says the importer/Sigma does certify their stuff is compatible with cameras on the market when the Sigma product is out. If it doesn't work with a future product and your Sigma product is out of warranty, then basicaly you're screwed and Sigma will not take care of it. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
- Original Message - From: jim Subject: Finally got my K10D. but.. Finally got My K10D today YAH but my Sigma 24-70 zoom won't work with it. Won't auto focus, won't auto anything, Yet same lens works perfictaly on my MZ7. SIGnificant MAlfunction strikes again. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: jim Subject: Finally got my K10D. but.. Finally got My K10D today YAH but my Sigma 24-70 zoom won't work with it. Won't auto focus, won't auto anything, Yet same lens works perfictaly on my MZ7. SIGnificant MAlfunction strikes again. William Robb Sigma makes nice stuff, apart from the electronics. I try and avoid any sigma product with electronics in it. The 30/1.4 is making it hard though. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
At 6:12 AM -0800 1/9/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:09 AM, Thibouille wrote: Strange how we almost never hear of that kind fo problem with Tokina/Tamron/Cosina etc. 3rd party lenses. Really strange, no? Of course, Sigma sells a lot more lens too. Sigma is simply the worst when it comes to quality. And they have a huge marketing budget. My friendly camera repair guy told me that they glue their glass into place instead of using retaining rings. So, if they ever get damaged or misaligned they are usually unrepairable. -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
All my pentax af lenses work on mine. My Sigma 300 f4 works, but i have another that i have noit tried. I'll check it. Dave Quoting jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Finally got My K10D today YAH but my Sigma 24-70 zoom won't work with it. Won't auto focus, won't auto anything, Yet same lens works perfictaly on my MZ7. I ordered a Body only cause I had 2 lens's i wanted to use with it, which is i guess why it took so long to get the camera in the first place. Guess, what. muggens is up for a new lens as well, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@#$#$ And before anyone asks, YES, the lens in set to A... James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Sigma makes nice stuff, apart from the electronics. I try and avoid any sigma product with electronics in it. The 30/1.4 is making it hard though. All the modern lenses have electronics in them. Their build quality on lenses is the most variable of any manufacturer I've ever seen. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Sigma makes nice stuff, apart from the electronics. I try and avoid any sigma product with electronics in it. The 30/1.4 is making it hard though. All the modern lenses have electronics in them. Their build quality on lenses is the most variable of any manufacturer I've ever seen. Godfrey Which is why my sole Sigma lens is 20 years old ;-) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
SIGnificant MAlfunction strikes again. LOL. mmm how do sigma lens work on sigma camera? any compatiability issuses there? maybe they reverse engineer there own lens :P James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
Buy Pentax lenses. They're better performers, 99.9% of the time anyway. The Pentax FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be an excellent choice for a lens in this focal length range. Thanks. tho with digital, I will also need a very wide lens to cover from 10/15 to 24/28 James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
Checked my Sigma 100-300 zoom. Seems to work ok. Did not take a shot and see if the exif is there,i don't realy care. Dave Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:59 AM, Adam Maas wrote: Sigma makes nice stuff, apart from the electronics. I try and avoid any sigma product with electronics in it. The 30/1.4 is making it hard though. All the modern lenses have electronics in them. Their build quality on lenses is the most variable of any manufacturer I've ever seen. Godfrey Which is why my sole Sigma lens is 20 years old ;-) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
The Pentax 16-45 is a very decent performer. Should cover your wishes. If not, get the Zenitar 16, its inexpensive and works very well. Dave Quoting jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Buy Pentax lenses. They're better performers, 99.9% of the time anyway. The Pentax FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be an excellent choice for a lens in this focal length range. Thanks. tho with digital, I will also need a very wide lens to cover from 10/15 to 24/28 James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
- Original Message - From: jim Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but.. Buy Pentax lenses. They're better performers, 99.9% of the time anyway. The Pentax FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be an excellent choice for a lens in this focal length range. Thanks. tho with digital, I will also need a very wide lens to cover from 10/15 to 24/28 10-17 is excellent, though you will need a defishing program. I've heard enough good things about the 12-24 that I bought one. At some point, I may even get it. The 14/2.8 is excellent, as is the FA20-35. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
I'm very fond of the DA 12-24. The pic of the Mustang that I posted yesterday was shot with this lens. In fact, although I brought three other lenses with me to the auto show, they didn't come out of the bag. I used the DA 12-24 exclusively. Paul On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:07 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: jim Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but.. Buy Pentax lenses. They're better performers, 99.9% of the time anyway. The Pentax FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be an excellent choice for a lens in this focal length range. Thanks. tho with digital, I will also need a very wide lens to cover from 10/15 to 24/28 10-17 is excellent, though you will need a defishing program. I've heard enough good things about the 12-24 that I bought one. At some point, I may even get it. The 14/2.8 is excellent, as is the FA20-35. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
I'm very fond of the DA 12-24. The pic of the Mustang that I posted yesterday was shot with this lens. In fact, although I brought three other lenses with me to the auto show, they didn't come out of the bag. I used the DA 12-24 exclusively. Paul On Jan 9, 2007, at 7:07 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: jim Subject: Re: Finally got my K10D. but.. Buy Pentax lenses. They're better performers, 99.9% of the time anyway. The Pentax FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be an excellent choice for a lens in this focal length range. Thanks. tho with digital, I will also need a very wide lens to cover from 10/15 to 24/28 10-17 is excellent, though you will need a defishing program. I've heard enough good things about the 12-24 that I bought one. At some point, I may even get it. The 14/2.8 is excellent, as is the FA20-35. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
jim wrote: SIGnificant MAlfunction strikes again. LOL. mmm how do sigma lens work on sigma camera? any compatiability issuses there? maybe they reverse engineer there own lens :P James Potentially, since their lens protocol is a fairly blatant copy of the EOS protocol. IIRC they originally tried to licence EF mount. got turned down and decided to use a K-mount derived Bayonet on a mount that's otherwise EOS. Sigma-mount lenses can be modified to work fully on EOS bodies with a mount replacement. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 22:35:10 -0500, Adam Maas wrote: Potentially, since their lens protocol is a fairly blatant copy of the EOS protocol. IIRC they originally tried to licence EF mount. got turned down and decided to use a K-mount derived Bayonet on a mount that's otherwise EOS. Sigma-mount lenses can be modified to work fully on EOS bodies with a mount replacement. That is interesting. I thought I saw somewhere they use a K bayonet mount but is obvious that is set up different linkage and electricly wise. wounder what the register length is? ie from sensor to mount. James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
On Jan 9, 2007, at 3:06 PM, jim wrote: Buy Pentax lenses. They're better performers, 99.9% of the time anyway. The Pentax FA24-90/3.5-4.5 AL would be an excellent choice for a lens in this focal length range. Thanks. tho with digital, I will also need a very wide lens to cover from 10/15 to 24/28 Pentax DA12-24/4 will do you nicely. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Finally got my K10D. but..........
Finally got My K10D today YAH but my Sigma 24-70 zoom won't work with it. Won't auto focus, won't auto anything, Yet same lens works perfictaly on my MZ7. I ordered a Body only cause I had 2 lens's i wanted to use with it, which is i guess why it took so long to get the camera in the first place. Guess, what. muggens is up for a new lens as well, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@#$#$ And before anyone asks, YES, the lens in set to A... James -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Finally got my K10D. but..........
Finally got My K10D today YAH but my Sigma 24-70 zoom won't work with it. Won't auto focus, won't auto anything, Yet same lens works perfictaly on my MZ7. Blame Sigma and their habit of backwards-engineering cameras to make their lenses and flashes compatible, instead of whatever the other 3rd party companies do to get it right the first time. This kind of shit happens all the time, which is why I long ago decided to never buy from Sigma again. As it is, you may want to contact Sigma and see if they'll fix your lens for free. They do that sometimes, you'll just be without your lens for a month. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
