Re: GESO Broken Shades
That's not impossible, Ann. ... except that the view is purple from your point. ;-) On a serious note, - my comment was not really a reflection on your comment. Rather, your comment was just a trigger for my old thoughts to get shared publicly. Cheers, Igor PS. After a quick google search, I suspect you were referring to Sheb Wooley's song from 1958. Surprisingly, despite its popularity, I don't think I've heard that song before, at least not "consciously". ann sanfedele Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:42:02 -0800 wrote: Just to be clear, Igor - you don't at all understand my point of view ... I think, however, Larry does :-) ann On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote: These photos tell a story, even if some of them are not perfect as stand-alone photographs. And I agree with Ann about that B portrait: it stands on its own. I know that type of challenging light quite well: it is very popular in the blues and jazz/swing music/dance community. So, I appreciate the challenges and the outcome. Now, Ann's comment about purple people eaters raised in my mind the old debate about how the photos reflect what we see/saw in real life. When we have an incandescent light and yellowish faces, we are trying to compensate for that yellow cast (filters and probably some film processing in the era of film photography, or color balance for digital). But the people do look under that light as if they had jaundice. It's just that our brain corrects/compensates for that in real time. So, the question is: should or should we not compensate for that while taking the photos (filters/color balance/...) or in post-processing? The same question applies to recording a video. After all, in many situations (these days, when different color lights are available), - people purposely choose "warm light" (2700K) to create a certain mood. And now, for the purple/coquelicot/smaragdine/mikado/glaucous/fulvous lights: They do create a certain atmosphere. So, why we do not get shocked seeing those glaucous faces in the room, but many people get the reaction like that of Ann's by any face color short of sarcoline in the photos? Those colors in the photos should reflect the "real" look of that room and people in it and convey that mood. Right? Cheers, Igor PS. I am not being critical of Ann's reaction, I understand it. Rather, I am thinking out loud about the interesting effect our brain plays on us. These thoughts are also a followup to the previous conversation about "truthful" images in photography. PPS. Strange color names? Look them up! ;-) Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:40:24 -0800 wrote: ann sanfedele wrote on 11/12/18 5:24 AM: To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple people eaters yikes The super saturated light from LEDs can make photography very challenging. You have to carefully watch the histogram so that you don't blow out one of the channels, even if you aren't going to try to bring things back to "normal" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Broken Shades
Just to be clear, Igor - you don't at all understand my point of view ... I think, however, Larry does :-) ann On 11/13/2018 5:23 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: These photos tell a story, even if some of them are not perfect as stand-alone photographs. And I agree with Ann about that B portrait: it stands on its own. I know that type of challenging light quite well: it is very popular in the blues and jazz/swing music/dance community. So, I appreciate the challenges and the outcome. Now, Ann's comment about purple people eaters raised in my mind the old debate about how the photos reflect what we see/saw in real life. When we have an incandescent light and yellowish faces, we are trying to compensate for that yellow cast (filters and probably some film processing in the era of film photography, or color balance for digital). But the people do look under that light as if they had jaundice. It's just that our brain corrects/compensates for that in real time. So, the question is: should or should we not compensate for that while taking the photos (filters/color balance/...) or in post-processing? The same question applies to recording a video. After all, in many situations (these days, when different color lights are available), - people purposely choose "warm light" (2700K) to create a certain mood. And now, for the purple/coquelicot/smaragdine/mikado/glaucous/fulvous lights: They do create a certain atmosphere. So, why we do not get shocked seeing those glaucous faces in the room, but many people get the reaction like that of Ann's by any face color short of sarcoline in the photos? Those colors in the photos should reflect the "real" look of that room and people in it and convey that mood. Right? Cheers, Igor PS. I am not being critical of Ann's reaction, I understand it. Rather, I am thinking out loud about the interesting effect our brain plays on us. These thoughts are also a followup to the previous conversation about "truthful" images in photography. PPS. Strange color names? Look them up! ;-) Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:40:24 -0800 wrote: ann sanfedele wrote on 11/12/18 5:24 AM: To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple people eaters yikes The super saturated light from LEDs can make photography very challenging. You have to carefully watch the histogram so that you don't blow out one of the channels, even if you aren't going to try to bring things back to "normal" -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Broken Shades
These photos tell a story, even if some of them are not perfect as stand-alone photographs. And I agree with Ann about that B portrait: it stands on its own. I know that type of challenging light quite well: it is very popular in the blues and jazz/swing music/dance community. So, I appreciate the challenges and the outcome. Now, Ann's comment about purple people eaters raised in my mind the old debate about how the photos reflect what we see/saw in real life. When we have an incandescent light and yellowish faces, we are trying to compensate for that yellow cast (filters and probably some film processing in the era of film photography, or color balance for digital). But the people do look under that light as if they had jaundice. It's just that our brain corrects/compensates for that in real time. So, the question is: should or should we not compensate for that while taking the photos (filters/color balance/...) or in post-processing? The same question applies to recording a video. After all, in many situations (these days, when different color lights are available), - people purposely choose "warm light" (2700K) to create a certain mood. And now, for the purple/coquelicot/smaragdine/mikado/glaucous/fulvous lights: They do create a certain atmosphere. So, why we do not get shocked seeing those glaucous faces in the room, but many people get the reaction like that of Ann's by any face color short of sarcoline in the photos? Those colors in the photos should reflect the "real" look of that room and people in it and convey that mood. Right? Cheers, Igor PS. I am not being critical of Ann's reaction, I understand it. Rather, I am thinking out loud about the interesting effect our brain plays on us. These thoughts are also a followup to the previous conversation about "truthful" images in photography. PPS. Strange color names? Look them up! ;-) Larry Colen Mon, 12 Nov 2018 06:40:24 -0800 wrote: ann sanfedele wrote on 11/12/18 5:24 AM: To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple people eaters yikes The super saturated light from LEDs can make photography very challenging. You have to carefully watch the histogram so that you don't blow out one of the channels, even if you aren't going to try to bring things back to "normal" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Broken Shades
ann sanfedele wrote on 11/12/18 5:24 AM: 20181110-LRC98806-2 the BW portrait is super - Thanks a bunch. really feel like I've met the guy from this one You probably have seen photos of him. Rich is the one that plays guitar with some other friends of mine. and you can tell he was ahving a private though and didnt' know you were shooting at that point.. at least, it appers that way To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple people eaters yikes The super saturated light from LEDs can make photography very challenging. You have to carefully watch the histogram so that you don't blow out one of the channels, even if you aren't going to try to bring things back to "normal" -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO Broken Shades
20181110-LRC98806-2 the BW portrait is super - really feel like I've met the guy from this one and you can tell he was ahving a private though and didnt' know you were shooting at that point.. at least, it appers that way To say the light was challenging was an understatement - purple people eaters yikes ann On 11/12/2018 1:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I wasn't planning on taking photos at the party I went to last night, but it turned out that a friend was playing with one of the bands. The lighting was quite challenging, LEDs, not necessarily aimed at the musicians, but very saturated when they were. I tried doing a bit of fill with a snouted speedlight on a few. Despite the challenges, I think I got a few keepers. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673391340397 -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO Broken Shades
I wasn't planning on taking photos at the party I went to last night, but it turned out that a friend was playing with one of the bands. The lighting was quite challenging, LEDs, not necessarily aimed at the musicians, but very saturated when they were. I tried doing a bit of fill with a snouted speedlight on a few. Despite the challenges, I think I got a few keepers. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157673391340397 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
