Re: K3-III metering
If you don't like the camera you could always send it to me! Alan C On 26-Apr-23 08:34 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote: Either film is a lot more forgiving, or our standards were a lot lower. On April 25, 2023 11:07:37 PM PDT, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: "Sunny F16" "Cloudy F8" "Dark F5.6" All on Kodachrome 64 - it's a wonder we got so many keepers! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Ralf R Radermacher Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:57 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K3-III metering Am 25.04.23 um 15:45 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, and I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time. "f8 and be there" :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K3-III metering
I'd had my first camera for a week, and was on board a ship off Funchal, Madeira, and wanted to take a shot of the harbour and city lights. I had no idea how to set the camera, and an experienced fellow passenger helped me out. He asked two questions : "What film are you using?" - K32 "What's the lens?" - Colour-Lanthar f2.8 "Ok - set it at 1/30th and f2.8" - which I did, and it worked perfectly! On another occasion, a couple of years later, the sun was setting through light rain, and, from a very high hill, and, with my non-metering Pentax SV, decided 1/8th at f1.8 might work, this time on K64. It did too, and is one of what I consider my best images: PDML-ers may recall it from a PESO or gallery entry a long time ago. So we did get good images by guess and by God, although we also had a lot of misses! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Alan C Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 7:21 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K3-III metering Sunny 16 is more applicable to tropical locations with bright light. Perhaps something like Sunny 11 in Temperate climates? Those were starting points for 100ASA film at 1/100 sec. From there it was all mental arithmetic or the use of tables. Alan C On 26-Apr-23 08:34 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote: > Either film is a lot more forgiving, or our standards were a lot lower. > > On April 25, 2023 11:07:37 PM PDT, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: >> "Sunny F16" >> "Cloudy F8" >> "Dark F5.6" >> >> All on Kodachrome 64 - it's a wonder we got so many keepers! >> >> John in Brisbane >> >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: Ralf R Radermacher >> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:57 PM >> To: pdml@pdml.net >> Subject: Re: K3-III metering >> >> Am 25.04.23 um 15:45 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: >> >>> My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo >>> Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, >>> and I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time. >> "f8 and be there" :-) >> >> Ralf >> >> -- >> Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : >> http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >> Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email >> to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >> directly above and follow the directions. >> -- >> %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email >> to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the >> link directly above and follow the directions. >> -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K3-III metering
Sunny 16 is more applicable to tropical locations with bright light. Perhaps something like Sunny 11 in Temperate climates? Those were starting points for 100ASA film at 1/100 sec. From there it was all mental arithmetic or the use of tables. Alan C On 26-Apr-23 08:34 AM, l...@red4est.com wrote: Either film is a lot more forgiving, or our standards were a lot lower. On April 25, 2023 11:07:37 PM PDT, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: "Sunny F16" "Cloudy F8" "Dark F5.6" All on Kodachrome 64 - it's a wonder we got so many keepers! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Ralf R Radermacher Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:57 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K3-III metering Am 25.04.23 um 15:45 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, and I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time. "f8 and be there" :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K3-III metering
Either film is a lot more forgiving, or our standards were a lot lower. On April 25, 2023 11:07:37 PM PDT, jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: >"Sunny F16" >"Cloudy F8" >"Dark F5.6" > >All on Kodachrome 64 - it's a wonder we got so many keepers! > >John in Brisbane > > > >-Original Message- >From: Ralf R Radermacher >Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:57 PM >To: pdml@pdml.net >Subject: Re: K3-III metering > >Am 25.04.23 um 15:45 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: > >> My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo >> Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, >> and I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time. > >"f8 and be there" :-) > >Ralf > >-- >Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : >http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the >PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >-- >%(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net >to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow >the directions. > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: K3-III metering
"Sunny F16" "Cloudy F8" "Dark F5.6" All on Kodachrome 64 - it's a wonder we got so many keepers! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From: Ralf R Radermacher Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 11:57 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: K3-III metering Am 25.04.23 um 15:45 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: > My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo > Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, and > I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time. "f8 and be there" :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K3-III metering
Am 25.04.23 um 15:45 schrieb Godfrey DiGiorgi: My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, and I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time. "f8 and be there" :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K3-III metering
> On Apr 24, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 24.04.23 um 20:46 schrieb Larry Colen: >> The K-3 III metering seems to fall down “when things go pear shaped at >> night”. > > As you might know, I like to do the odd night shot, mostly industrial > scenes. As a matter of fact, I've never relied on any camera's metering > under those conditions. My best "meter" for difficult situations like that is a Kodak Pocket Photo Guide. It has an exposure calculator based on descriptions of scene type, and I've found its suggestions to be right on the mark nearly all the time. G — No matter where you go, there you are. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K3-III metering
> On Apr 24, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 24.04.23 um 20:46 schrieb Larry Colen: >> The K-3 III metering seems to fall down “when things go pear shaped at >> night”. > > As you might know, I like to do the odd night shot, mostly industrial Yup, some of them are very odd. > scenes. As a matter of fact, I've never relied on any camera's metering > under those conditions. My SOP, especially in challenging lighting is trust but verify. The 3III has a lot of metering modes, and I think that I just don’t know how to make the best of them. Unfortunately in situations like last night, I simply didn’t have the time to understand WTF the camera was trying to do, and changing my angle could dramatically affect the exposure. I posted elselist the link to my photos with the K-1, but for the sake of flow: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72177720307763152 It had little trouble, especially bracketing -2 and 0 stops. > > Ralf > > -- > Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany > Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com > Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf > Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K3-III metering
Am 24.04.23 um 20:46 schrieb Larry Colen: The K-3 III metering seems to fall down “when things go pear shaped at night”. As you might know, I like to do the odd night shot, mostly industrial scenes. As a matter of fact, I've never relied on any camera's metering under those conditions. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Fotos : https://www.fotocommunity.de/user_photos/770012 -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K3-III metering
The K-3 III metering seems to fall down “when things go pear shaped at night”. I had issues when I was photographing them clearing the fallen trees and powerlines a few weeks back, and last night someone set fire to a car in the parking lot at the new office in Riverside. I grabbed the 3-III and it was exposing for the darkest areas of the image, multi second exposures, so I just exchanged for my K-1, which I can make work. I might need to use P mode for night time shots instead. It also probably didn’t help that it had the 18-270 rather than the 16-50 so it was much slower. I know that the 3III can get great shots in adverse conditions, I just haven’t had a chance to learn it well enough to do so. It does seem to behave very differently from all of my other cameras. I’ll try to post images from last night’s excitement soon, I just haven’t had a chance to do much processing. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from ret13est -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
