Re: Lightseeker
Thanks, Bob. I'll hopefull be able to take a look at one this weekend and compare it to a few others. On 8/12/05, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Pentax 6-24X50mm LightSeeker-30 mounted on my Springfield M21 (M14 variant). I put the Springfield Armory scope I had on it on my BAR. This LightSeeker is clear, bright, sharp stable. The Springfield Armory scope would occasionally jump a click with recoil. If the SG 2.5x is of the same build quality, then I would recommend it. P.S. I like the little central circle in the reticule. Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing. - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV Scott Loveless wrote: Howdy, gang! I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the upcoming annual deer massacre. Would anyone have an opinion about the Pentax Lightseeker scopes? I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x. Thanks in advance! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Lightseeker
Tom Reese wrote: Keith W. asked: You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. Could you elaborate on that just a little, Tom? Seems that is a way to search group interest lists for messages by subject? Hmmm. Gotta look into that! There are a couple hundred thousand newgroups on Usenet. Most ISPs offer some type of newsgroup service to access them. You'll have to find out the nntp server name then configure your e-mail program to use them. Some that I subscribe to include rec.equipment.35mm and rec.photo.nature, rec.photo.marketplace.35mm. You can also subscribe to newsgroups through Google but it's a bit of a kludge. Google offers a way to search the newsgroup archives. Just go to the main google.com page. Across the top of the page is: Web, Images, Groups, News, Froogle, Local, More Web searches the internet, images searches for pictures, Groups searches the newsgroups, News searches for current news items and Froogle searches the internet but only places that offer the item for sale. Groups is a great resource. Froogle is a good way to narrow down the search for an item you might want to buy. Tom Reese Thank you, Tom! Up to now I have been so impressed at what Google will do with what I typed into their data entry line, I've paid scant attention to the other capabilities! But, I can see how that will help zero in on any given search. I'll be trying that very soon... my daughter has given me the task to do some searching on a legal matter; I've been asked to go looking for how many and what sort of lawsuits are being filed against LLC holders, how having an LLC protects them. Or if it even does! Gotta give this one a good think! I appreciate your help! keith whaley
Re: Lightseeker
I have a Pentax 6-24X50mm LightSeeker-30 mounted on my Springfield M21 (M14 variant). I put the Springfield Armory scope I had on it on my BAR. This LightSeeker is clear, bright, sharp stable. The Springfield Armory scope would occasionally jump a click with recoil. If the SG 2.5x is of the same build quality, then I would recommend it. P.S. I like the little central circle in the reticule. Regards, Bob... - The art of taxation consists in so plucking the goose as to obtain the largest possible amount of feathers with the smallest possible amount of hissing. - Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of finance to French King Louis XIV Scott Loveless wrote: Howdy, gang! I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the upcoming annual deer massacre. Would anyone have an opinion about the Pentax Lightseeker scopes? I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x. Thanks in advance!
Re: Lightseeker
keithw wrote: I can't help you with respect to the Pentax scope. However, I've been so pleased with all my Pentax gear over the years, I would have no hesitancy at all to buy one! Scott, You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. I found one message where a guy claims Pentax scopes are made by Burris. Tom Reese
Re: Lightseeker
Tom Reese wrote: keithw wrote: I can't help you with respect to the Pentax scope. However, I've been so pleased with all my Pentax gear over the years, I would have no hesitancy at all to buy one! Scott, You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. Could you elaborate on that just a little, Tom? Seems that is a way to search group interest lists for messages by subject? Hmmm. Gotta look into that! keith I found one message where a guy claims Pentax scopes are made by Burris. Tom Reese
Re: Lightseeker
Gee, Tom, now I feel like a big dope. g I didn't even think about trying groups. Thanks for the heads-up. Adding burris to your search returns some interesting discussions. It seems that Pentax scopes are made by Burris using Pentax glass. I'll keep reading. Thanks, Tom! On 8/11/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: keithw wrote: I can't help you with respect to the Pentax scope. However, I've been so pleased with all my Pentax gear over the years, I would have no hesitancy at all to buy one! Scott, You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. I found one message where a guy claims Pentax scopes are made by Burris. Tom Reese -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Lightseeker
keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Reese wrote: keithw wrote: I can't help you with respect to the Pentax scope. However, I've been so pleased with all my Pentax gear over the years, I would have no hesitancy at all to buy one! You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. Could you elaborate on that just a little, Tom? Seems that is a way to search group interest lists for messages by subject? Hmmm. Gotta look into that! Google has the capability of searching posts in Usenet groups. http://groups-beta.google.com/grphp?hl=entab=wgie=UTF-8 -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Lightseeker
Keith W. asked: You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. Could you elaborate on that just a little, Tom? Seems that is a way to search group interest lists for messages by subject? Hmmm. Gotta look into that! There are a couple hundred thousand newgroups on Usenet. Most ISPs offer some type of newsgroup service to access them. You'll have to find out the nntp server name then configure your e-mail program to use them. Some that I subscribe to include rec.equipment.35mm and rec.photo.nature, rec.photo.marketplace.35mm. You can also subscribe to newsgroups through Google but it's a bit of a kludge. Google offers a way to search the newsgroup archives. Just go to the main google.com page. Across the top of the page is: Web, Images, Groups, News, Froogle, Local, More Web searches the internet, images searches for pictures, Groups searches the newsgroups, News searches for current news items and Froogle searches the internet but only places that offer the item for sale. Groups is a great resource. Froogle is a good way to narrow down the search for an item you might want to buy. Tom Reese
Re: Lightseeker
Don't use an e-mail program, they're not designed for it, (though they do work). Get a news reader program, some are free or almost so. Tom Reese wrote: Keith W. asked: You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. Could you elaborate on that just a little, Tom? Seems that is a way to search group interest lists for messages by subject? Hmmm. Gotta look into that! There are a couple hundred thousand newgroups on Usenet. Most ISPs offer some type of newsgroup service to access them. You'll have to find out the nntp server name then configure your e-mail program to use them. Some that I subscribe to include rec.equipment.35mm and rec.photo.nature, rec.photo.marketplace.35mm. You can also subscribe to newsgroups through Google but it's a bit of a kludge. Google offers a way to search the newsgroup archives. Just go to the main google.com page. Across the top of the page is: Web, Images, Groups, News, Froogle, Local, More Web searches the internet, images searches for pictures, Groups searches the newsgroups, News searches for current news items and Froogle searches the internet but only places that offer the item for sale. Groups is a great resource. Froogle is a good way to narrow down the search for an item you might want to buy. Tom Reese -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
Re: Lightseeker
Mark Roberts wrote: keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Reese wrote: keithw wrote: I can't help you with respect to the Pentax scope. However, I've been so pleased with all my Pentax gear over the years, I would have no hesitancy at all to buy one! You can find quite a few Pentax scope references if you go to Google.com then search GROUPS for Pentax Scope. Could you elaborate on that just a little, Tom? Seems that is a way to search group interest lists for messages by subject? Hmmm. Gotta look into that! Google has the capability of searching posts in Usenet groups. http://groups-beta.google.com/grphp?hl=entab=wgie=UTF-8 Thank you. I added that to my menu bar! keith
Lightseeker
Howdy, gang! I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the upcoming annual deer massacre. Would anyone have an opinion about the Pentax Lightseeker scopes? I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x. Thanks in advance! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Lightseeker
Scott Loveless wrote: Howdy, gang! I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the upcoming annual deer massacre. Would anyone have an opinion about the Pentax Lightseeker scopes? I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x. Thanks in advance! Hi Scott... Personal opinion? The first opinion is, you will not like the response you get from THIS list. I hope you don't find out the hard way. The second opinion is as follows: A shotgun is not a rifle, accuracy wise. Some of them will quite remarkably place one slug after another in very close proximity to one other, but... Not consistently at distances beyond say 45-55 yards. I personally think deer should be taken within that range, to assure humane kills. That assumes eastern and midwestern U.S. woods, cover, etc. You almost HAVE to be in that range or less to be able to miss all the shrubs and trees and heavy brush, to get the clean shot. In those conditions, a 2.5X scope is sort of over-reaching. I'd use as large an objective diameter scope I could find, for light-gathering, and a power consistent with the accuracy of a shotgun, say 1.5 or 1.75 power, max. As you go further west and the country opens up, you can extend the range and go for the higher power scopes, but now you're making incursions into rifle territory. Again, it's only a shotgun. Use your 2.5X scope. Maybe a shade more, but hopefully you're not going for harvests at over 75 yards or so. The accuracy is not there, even if you DO have a ping-pong ball-sized slug! All strictly my own opinion and worth every cent you paid for the advice! ;-) You may contact me privately if the flak gets too thick... As for me, I'm butting out of this thread immediately and will not discuss it further online. I'll answer anyone via private email, but I refuse to get all red-faced and upset over guns and hunting vs. tree-hugger liberals again. Hunting and guns absolutely have their place, but not on the Pentax list! keith whaley
Re: Lightseeker
Thanks, Keith. My query was most definitely not about guns and hunting, but about the usability/quality/etc. of the Pentax Lightseeker scopes. Regardless, I've been hunting for quite a while without one and with my current set-up (500c 20ga. with a rifled slug barrel) I can produce a 6 inch pattern at 100 yards with the right ammunition. I'd simply like to tighten this up. In my former life, I hunted in the Ozarks of Missouri and Arkansas. It's far too dense there to get much benefit from a scope. I'll be endangering fellow hunters in Pennsylvania this year. The brush is fairly dense here as well, but there are plenty of open areas as well. So I'm shopping for low power scopes. I'd never even think of shooting at a deer more than about 50 yards out with my rig. But the scope may make a very clean kill a bit more likely. Since this IS the Pentax Discuss Mailing List, I thought I'd ask about the Pentax scopes hoping that someone may have some experience with them. Online comparisons of Pentax vs. other brands are scarce and uninformative. I'm quite prepared for the flak and have donned appropriately thick skin. g Thanks again for your feedback. On 8/10/05, keithw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Loveless wrote: Howdy, gang! I've been thinking about mounting a scope on my slug gun for the upcoming annual deer massacre. Would anyone have an opinion about the Pentax Lightseeker scopes? I'm specifically considering the SG 2.5x. Thanks in advance! Hi Scott... Personal opinion? The first opinion is, you will not like the response you get from THIS list. I hope you don't find out the hard way. The second opinion is as follows: A shotgun is not a rifle, accuracy wise. Some of them will quite remarkably place one slug after another in very close proximity to one other, but... Not consistently at distances beyond say 45-55 yards. I personally think deer should be taken within that range, to assure humane kills. That assumes eastern and midwestern U.S. woods, cover, etc. You almost HAVE to be in that range or less to be able to miss all the shrubs and trees and heavy brush, to get the clean shot. In those conditions, a 2.5X scope is sort of over-reaching. I'd use as large an objective diameter scope I could find, for light-gathering, and a power consistent with the accuracy of a shotgun, say 1.5 or 1.75 power, max. As you go further west and the country opens up, you can extend the range and go for the higher power scopes, but now you're making incursions into rifle territory. Again, it's only a shotgun. Use your 2.5X scope. Maybe a shade more, but hopefully you're not going for harvests at over 75 yards or so. The accuracy is not there, even if you DO have a ping-pong ball-sized slug! All strictly my own opinion and worth every cent you paid for the advice! ;-) You may contact me privately if the flak gets too thick... As for me, I'm butting out of this thread immediately and will not discuss it further online. I'll answer anyone via private email, but I refuse to get all red-faced and upset over guns and hunting vs. tree-hugger liberals again. Hunting and guns absolutely have their place, but not on the Pentax list! keith whaley -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com -- You have to hold the button down -Arnold Newman
Re: Lightseeker
Scott Loveless wrote: Thanks, Keith. My query was most definitely not about guns and hunting, but about the usability/quality/etc. of the Pentax Lightseeker scopes. Regardless, I've been hunting for quite a while without one and with my current set-up (500c 20ga. with a rifled slug barrel) I can produce a 6 inch pattern at 100 yards with the right ammunition. I'd simply like to tighten this up. In my former life, I hunted in the Ozarks of Missouri and Arkansas. It's far too dense there to get much benefit from a scope. I'll be endangering fellow hunters in Pennsylvania this year. The brush is fairly dense here as well, but there are plenty of open areas as well. So I'm shopping for low power scopes. I'd never even think of shooting at a deer more than about 50 yards out with my rig. But the scope may make a very clean kill a bit more likely. Since this IS the Pentax Discuss Mailing List, I thought I'd ask about the Pentax scopes hoping that someone may have some experience with them. Online comparisons of Pentax vs. other brands are scarce and uninformative. I'm quite prepared for the flak and have donned appropriately thick skin. g Thanks again for your feedback. Fair and reasonable response. thanks. I can't help you with respect to the Pentax scope. However, I've been so pleased with all my Pentax gear over the years, I would have no hesitancy at all to buy one! I've spent a lot of time with Burris low magnification scopes, and they're excellent. I usually use a pistol scope, mounted forward. Great eye relief and all you normally need in magnification. I would expect Peantx to have made a beautiful piece of glass, and for it to perform well. keith
