Re: New Body vs. New Lens
A couple of messages from the couple-of-weeks-ago thread about straps showed up from some remote part of the ether this morning, so ... Steve Desjardins wrote: I use one like this: http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/B000OMR00C I use this one (neoprene) on my camera: http://optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=23PRODUCT_SUB_ID=CATEGORY_ID=4 I have one very similar to this one on my Domke F2: http://optechusa.com/product/detail/?PRODUCT_ID=41PRODUCT_SUB_ID= Those of you who know the F2 know just much crap you can stuff into one of those canvas wonders, and thus how heavy it can get. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out. My Canon is female, it gives a good slap when pressed. My R-D1 is a male - shutter has a cock. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Fo info, seems like a good juncture to post my compromise: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Perhaps I will rig something like that. Good solution. Paul On Jan 26, 2008, at 4:58 AM, Cotty wrote: Fo info, seems like a good juncture to post my compromise: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did you do it? And who makes the strap? Rick --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fo info, seems like a good juncture to post my compromise: http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/spare.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
In a message dated 1/26/2008 7:36:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did you do it? And who makes the strap? Rick = It looks like a good camera bag strap on camera instead of bag. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On 26/01/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did you do it? And who makes the strap? Strong needle, tough thread, blood transfusions. I think that one came from a Marmoset bumbag. I have several. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On Jan 27, 2008 1:15 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26/01/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did you do it? And who makes the strap? Strong needle, tough thread, blood transfusions. I think that one came from a Marmoset bumbag. I have several. A wad punch (or a hot knife/soldering Iron) riveted steel eyelets is also a good way to join webbing. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
It looks good but maybe I'll pass. I spent an hour last night trying to add a couple of snaps to the bottom of a coat that was a bit too big. I guess I could outsource it. g Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/26/2008 11:15 AM On 26/01/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: Very clever, Cotty. Webbing is awful to sew--how did you do it? And who makes the strap? Strong needle, tough thread, blood transfusions. I think that one came from a Marmoset bumbag. I have several. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:479b5db8212471721015995! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Do you play badminton with your shuttercock? Cotty wrote: So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out. My Canon is female, it gives a good slap when pressed. My R-D1 is a male - shutter has a cock. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Or, maybe the camera is androgynous: when it works, it's female. When there's a cock-up, it's male. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:44 AM Subject: Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out. My Canon is female, it gives a good slap when pressed. My R-D1 is a male - shutter has a cock. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
In a message dated 1/26/2008 10:13:32 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, maybe the camera is androgynous: when it works, it's female. When there's a cock-up, it's male. Cheers, Christine == LOL. I was trying to think of a response to this dumb thread and couldn't come up with one. Way to go, girl!!! Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
My D2H must be male. It is retired, Works when it feels like, and does not do dishes Dave On Jan 26, 2008 4:44 AM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out. My Canon is female, it gives a good slap when pressed. My R-D1 is a male - shutter has a cock. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
My answer to the new body or new lens question might be: New tripod. The operation of my CF Gitzo mountaineer is annoying. My Manfrotto 3021 is heavy for hiking expeditions. I may spring for a bigger, better carbon fiber tripod. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: New Body vs. New Lens
Domke 1 'Gripper' straps are the best. 2nd best are Leica straps, but they don't have a swivel. The LX strap was also excellent. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: 25 January 2008 05:27 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around your neck on strap all day shooting it can become a very heavy load after a while. Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Lowepro sells a couple straps including a Neoprene one which I like very much. Even my SuperA+Motor (and its 8 AA cells) feels a lot lighter with that strap. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Then finish off the new PC. Then find a new pro lab. Local one turned up its toes over the holidays Odd, as it was part of a large arts supplies house and the whole organisation has gone, not just the lab. Lenses and bodies are the last thing on my mind. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/24 Thu PM 09:38:24 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Like cars, they can drift either way. Guns are XYY. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
I like the Tamarac straps that can be quickly detached when you don't want them in the way. They're also well padded and quite comfortable. Paul On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Please no, don't do that. My Epson R2400 is an absolute gem. Perfect BW tonality, vivid color and prints that are a dead-on match for what's on my monitor. Photography needs Epson. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/25 Fri AM 11:42:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Please no, don't do that. My Epson R2400 is an absolute gem. Perfect BW tonality, vivid color and prints that are a dead-on match for what's on my monitor. Photography needs Epson. Paul Wait until it needs the teeniest, tiniest 10c part. That Epson will not sell to you. Then tell me that.. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
When I carry two cameras, I usually have the preferred lens on the #1 camera in my hand, the second camera on my left shoulder is used maybe 15-20% of the time for an alternate view. E.g., #1 might be 16-50mm, #2 might be 14mm or 77mm or 100/macro. Or #1 might be 50-135mm, with the 21mm on #2. So the relatively infrequent use of #2 means that the extra hassle of using it from left-shoulder position doesn't become that big a deal. If I get into a situation where I am using #2 for more than a few shots, then I do relocate it to around the neck. As far as the security of the on-the-shoulder position, when I am using two cameras it usually is when I am also wearing my camera backpack. I hook a largish carabiner to the camera strap and the pack's shoulder strap - if the camera does slip off my shoulder it doesn't hit the ground. But my basic approach is that the camera I am shooting with is in my hand, and secondary camera(s) are in a comfortable albeit not the most accessible spot. And I can carry a K10D with grip attached, with heavy lens, in my hand for a lot longer than I can tolerate the weight around my neck or even on my shoulder. stan On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:31 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but it's efficient. Why? First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched. Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off the shoulder and wrap it around the wrist or whatever. I just shoot. Back some thirty years ago when I shot a lot of motorsports, all the photogs hung their cameras from their necks when they weren't on a tripod. But that was in the days before a camera around the neck became evocative of a tourist and therefore very unhip. Paul. On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder, hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive. One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging from two fingers and thumb) with strap wrapped a couple of times around my wrist when within obvious range of photo ops. Two camera setup: main camera in (dangling from) right hand as above, second camera on left shoulder. When I use the second camera, the first just dangles from my wrist. If I am going to be on a bus, subway, in a car etc. then the second camera goes into the backpack. I really liked the grip strap on the Pz-1p but haven't found anything with the same comfortable secure feel that I can use on *ist- D, K10D etc. Back on the Subject topic, I really want the DA*60-250. If it looks like that will keep getting pushed back, then I'll go for one K20D body to replace one of my K10's. But if the lens and body were both available now, I would buy the lens first with no hesitation. stan On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New Body vs. New Lens
My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but it's efficient. Why? First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched. Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off the shoulder and wrap it around the wrist or whatever. I just shoot. Back some thirty years ago when I shot a lot of motorsports, all the photogs hung their cameras from their necks when they weren't on a tripod. But that was in the days before a camera around the neck became evocative of a tourist and therefore very unhip. Paul. On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder, hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive. One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging from two fingers and thumb) with strap wrapped a couple of times around my wrist when within obvious range of photo ops. Two camera setup: main camera in (dangling from) right hand as above, second camera on left shoulder. When I use the second camera, the first just dangles from my wrist. If I am going to be on a bus, subway, in a car etc. then the second camera goes into the backpack. I really liked the grip strap on the Pz-1p but haven't found anything with the same comfortable secure feel that I can use on *ist- D, K10D etc. Back on the Subject topic, I really want the DA*60-250. If it looks like that will keep getting pushed back, then I'll go for one K20D body to replace one of my K10's. But if the lens and body were both available now, I would buy the lens first with no hesitation. stan On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Op Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:41:50 +0100 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. They must be female: I have a hard time figuring them out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No. I guess you could just buy a simple wrist strap, but I use a homemade combination of a Velcro watchband and a carabiner key chain. I can just clip it on and off and it's very sturdy. I even tried a simple looped boot shoelace g, It worked just fine and the K10D just dangled in the air when I let it go. I just couldn't bring myself to trust it. There must be many ways to rig a simple safety line. In practice, I have the camera with the grip and my camera bag (Domke F2) on my shoulder. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/25/08 4:00 PM Does it come with the auxiliary wrist strap? I didn't see any mention of that at BH. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the hand grip I have. I just couldn't remember the name while at school. It fits my hand well and I don't have to constantly grip the camera. Essentially, I have this grip and an auxiliary wrist strap in case it slips off my hand. I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly but safely. g Thanks Godders. I'm going to order that grip and give it a try. I might like it for walkarounds if not for other work. We'll see. Thirty-year habits are hard to break. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]~!B*+R^ The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:479a4ed5212475210364242! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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-- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly ... MARK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. Here's a picture of my Canon 10D fitted with it from 2003: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/10DwHakubaGrip.jpg I don't usually use a neckstrap. For hands free capabilities with a hand-strap, I use a modest size shoulder bag, strap across my shoulder and chest bandolier style, where I put the camera when I'm not actively taking pictures. I put a karabiner on the bag's strap so I can clip the camera to it by the hand strap when I'm juggling lenses during changing. Some cameras work well with a neck strap, like the Olympus E-1, because of the way the strap mounting lugs are made. But most modern cameras, with simply slot lugs ... I get very annoyed with the straps most of the time. The only SLR camera I've owned since 2000 with these slot lugs that actually did it RIGHT was the Canon EOS IX. The slot lugs pointed the strap *back* from the body so that the camera hung nose-down when on your shoulder or around your neck ... the sensible way they OUGHT to hang with a modern, bulky heavy lens on the front, rather than sticking the front element out in front of you like an erect penis or twisting up the strap to nose it down. That camera also hung under my shoulder and arm just right because of the strap lugs. Godfrey On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it can slip off the hand, can it not? I'm not sold on hand grips. When hung around the neck, I'm still holding the camera, so it doesn't bang on anything. If I'm in the clear of any objects, I sometimes just let it hang, but not all that often. I went to Amazon thinking I might want to by this strap and give it a try. Then I read one of the customer reviews: In a world of copies and imitations, this is just another piece of junk from the 3rd world. It fits poorly. You'd be better served by going to PetsMart for a nylon dog collar to thread through your camera's frame mount. Alternatively, spend the $ and buy an original from your camera's manufacturer. I sent mine back. H. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use one like this: http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/ B000OMR00C -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Op Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:41:50 +0100 schreef William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. Thay can't be female: I can look right though them. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I use one like this: http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/B000OMR00C I just found this on the web. I forget what brand I have. I also have a velcro watch band with a carabineer key chain to connect it to the wrist strap. Easy to hold, always ready, the hand grip takes the weight, and it can't actually fall. Aside from the a better shooting arrangement, I found that (at least for me), the camera would swing on the neck strap and whack into things. This is more secure, although it does tie up one hand. OTOH g, it makes a better weapon this way. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/25/2008 11:38 AM In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:26:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But my basic approach is that the camera I am shooting with is in my hand, and secondary camera(s) are in a comfortable albeit not the most accessible spot. And I can carry a K10D with grip attached, with heavy lens, in my hand for a lot longer than I can tolerate the weight around my neck or even on my shoulder. stan == Interesting. Not the only one that gets tired of camera around neck. I've never really tried a wrist strap. Which I'd want if I was just holding it all the time. (I hold it too sometimes, off my neck, but I never leave it without a strap connection to me for very long.) Course, if *I* fall down, camera goes too. But the one time I have fallen down in recent years, boy I was really grabbing that camera. Stupid, I might have been hurt. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:479a1095212471631716978! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:26:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But my basic approach is that the camera I am shooting with is in my hand, and secondary camera(s) are in a comfortable albeit not the most accessible spot. And I can carry a K10D with grip attached, with heavy lens, in my hand for a lot longer than I can tolerate the weight around my neck or even on my shoulder. stan == Interesting. Not the only one that gets tired of camera around neck. I've never really tried a wrist strap. Which I'd want if I was just holding it all the time. (I hold it too sometimes, off my neck, but I never leave it without a strap connection to me for very long.) Course, if *I* fall down, camera goes too. But the one time I have fallen down in recent years, boy I was really grabbing that camera. Stupid, I might have been hurt. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/25/2008 5:41:35 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but it's efficient. Why? First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched. Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off the shoulder and wrap it around the wrist or whatever. I just shoot. Back some thirty years ago when I shot a lot of motorsports, all the photogs hung their cameras from their necks when they weren't on a tripod. But that was in the days before a camera around the neck became evocative of a tourist and therefore very unhip. Paul. Well, that's why I do it, so I simply can't drop it. I am a bit paranoid about dropping my camera. Tripods make me nervous so when I use one I always have my eye on it or don't go far from it. I just figure it would be like me to drop the camera if I didn't always take precautions. :-) Also I am usually carrying a camera bag with other lenses in it on my shoulder. I also have a camera bag that will go around my waist, but I don't use it quite as much or I put it on my shoulder more often than my waist. It's a little too bulky at my waist to be totally comfortable. Some neat neck straps mentioned. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lately I've been using a wrist strap more and more. Maybe it's how I shoot. I also attach a strap around my wrist so I can't just drop it. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/25/2008 6:31 AM My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but it's efficient. Why? First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched. Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off the shoulder and wrap it around the wrist or whatever. I just shoot. Back some thirty years ago when I shot a lot of motorsports, all the photogs hung their cameras from their necks when they weren't on a tripod. But that was in the days before a camera around the neck became evocative of a tourist and therefore very unhip. Paul. On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder, hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive. One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging from two fingers and thumb) with strap wrapped a couple of times around my wrist when within obvious range of photo ops. Two camera setup: main camera in (dangling from) right hand as above, second camera on left shoulder. When I use the second camera, the first just dangles from my wrist. If I am going to be on a bus, subway, in a car etc. then the second camera goes into the backpack. I really liked the grip strap on the Pz-1p but haven't found anything with the same comfortable secure feel that I can use on *ist- D, K10D etc. Back on the Subject topic, I really want the DA*60-250. If it looks like that will keep getting pushed back, then I'll go for one K20D body to replace one of my K10's. But if the lens and body were both available now, I would buy the lens first with no hesitation. stan On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:4799cb7d318061736615142! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I carry my work camera, which is one of the heavy Nikon models and the 70-200 around my neck. If i'm walking from 1 ring to another, i'll sling it over my shoulder and tuck the lens down ward, so as not to knock people over when walking.:-0 Its a heavy comb, and really hard on the neck and muscles there of. Dave On Jan 25, 2008 6:31 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My cameras always hang from my neck. Yes, I know it's not cool, but it's efficient. Why? First, the camera can't be dropped unless my neck or the strap breaks. Not true on the shoulder, unless your body is notched. Second, it's always in position to shoot. Don't have to take it off the shoulder and wrap it around the wrist or whatever. I just shoot. Back some thirty years ago when I shot a lot of motorsports, all the photogs hung their cameras from their necks when they weren't on a tripod. But that was in the days before a camera around the neck became evocative of a tourist and therefore very unhip. Paul. On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder, hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive. One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging from two fingers and thumb) with strap wrapped a couple of times around my wrist when within obvious range of photo ops. Two camera setup: main camera in (dangling from) right hand as above, second camera on left shoulder. When I use the second camera, the first just dangles from my wrist. If I am going to be on a bus, subway, in a car etc. then the second camera goes into the backpack. I really liked the grip strap on the Pz-1p but haven't found anything with the same comfortable secure feel that I can use on *ist- D, K10D etc. Back on the Subject topic, I really want the DA*60-250. If it looks like that will keep getting pushed back, then I'll go for one K20D body to replace one of my K10's. But if the lens and body were both available now, I would buy the lens first with no hesitation. stan On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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But Epson will repair it. I had a 1200 repaired some years ago. Reasonable price and quick turnaround. In any case, the kind of performance the R2400 delivers is a worthwhile tradeoff. I can't imagine printing with anything else. On Jan 25, 2008, at 7:30 AM, mike wilson wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/25 Fri AM 11:42:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mike wilson wrote: New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Please no, don't do that. My Epson R2400 is an absolute gem. Perfect BW tonality, vivid color and prints that are a dead-on match for what's on my monitor. Photography needs Epson. Paul Wait until it needs the teeniest, tiniest 10c part. That Epson will not sell to you. Then tell me that.. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Exactly my thoughts. -- Bruce Friday, January 25, 2008, 11:41:31 AM, you wrote: pcn The K20D should prove to be a great wedding camera, given its low-light capability. pcn Paul pcn -- Original message -- pcn From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Body for me. I most recently got the DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135. Could use something on the wide end, but I could use the body more for the stuff I do. Then again, I got WW getting me to look into Large format, so there is always something competing for what money I have (or wish I had). -- Bruce Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:38:37 AM, you wrote: SD I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D SD and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards SD buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to SD have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. SD So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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This is the hand grip I have. I just couldn't remember the name while at school. It fits my hand well and I don't have to constantly grip the camera. Essentially, I have this grip and an auxiliary wrist strap in case it slips off my hand. I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly but safely. g Thanks Godders. I'm going to order that grip and give it a try. I might like it for walkarounds if not for other work. We'll see. Thirty-year habits are hard to break. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]~!B*+R^ The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Does it come with the auxiliary wrist strap? I didn't see any mention of that at BH. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the hand grip I have. I just couldn't remember the name while at school. It fits my hand well and I don't have to constantly grip the camera. Essentially, I have this grip and an auxiliary wrist strap in case it slips off my hand. I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly but safely. g Thanks Godders. I'm going to order that grip and give it a try. I might like it for walkarounds if not for other work. We'll see. Thirty-year habits are hard to break. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]~!B*+R^ The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K20D should prove to be a great wedding camera, given its low-light capability. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Body for me. I most recently got the DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135. Could use something on the wide end, but I could use the body more for the stuff I do. Then again, I got WW getting me to look into Large format, so there is always something competing for what money I have (or wish I had). -- Bruce Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:38:37 AM, you wrote: SD I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D SD and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards SD buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to SD have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. SD So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Independent art supply stores are just as threatened as independent photo stores. The local small store closed because he couldn't compete with the national chains and Internet sales. I knew the owner, his costs were often more than the large chains were selling the exact same item for, and you could get a better quality item on .line for less than that. It got to the point that the only time he saw some customers was when they needed a specific item _right_now_. mike wilson wrote: From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? New printer 8-( Damn Epson to Hades. Then finish off the new PC. Then find a new pro lab. Local one turned up its toes over the holidays Odd, as it was part of a large arts supplies house and the whole organisation has gone, not just the lab. Lenses and bodies are the last thing on my mind. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Wider = Better. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around your neck on strap all day shooting it can become a very heavy load after a while. Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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But it can slip off the hand, can it not? I'm not sold on hand grips. When hung around the neck, I'm still holding the camera, so it doesn't bang on anything. If I'm in the clear of any objects, I sometimes just let it hang, but not all that often. I went to Amazon thinking I might want to by this strap and give it a try. Then I read one of the customer reviews: In a world of copies and imitations, this is just another piece of junk from the 3rd world. It fits poorly. You'd be better served by going to PetsMart for a nylon dog collar to thread through your camera's frame mount. Alternatively, spend the $ and buy an original from your camera's manufacturer. I sent mine back. H. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use one like this: http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/B000OMR00C I just found this on the web. I forget what brand I have. I also have a velcro watch band with a carabineer key chain to connect it to the wrist strap. Easy to hold, always ready, the hand grip takes the weight, and it can't actually fall. Aside from the a better shooting arrangement, I found that (at least for me), the camera would swing on the neck strap and whack into things. This is more secure, although it does tie up one hand. OTOH g, it makes a better weapon this way. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/25/2008 11:38 AM In a message dated 1/25/2008 8:26:39 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But my basic approach is that the camera I am shooting with is in my hand, and secondary camera(s) are in a comfortable albeit not the most accessible spot. And I can carry a K10D with grip attached, with heavy lens, in my hand for a lot longer than I can tolerate the weight around my neck or even on my shoulder. stan == Interesting. Not the only one that gets tired of camera around neck. I've never really tried a wrist strap. Which I'd want if I was just holding it all the time. (I hold it too sometimes, off my neck, but I never leave it without a strap connection to me for very long.) Course, if *I* fall down, camera goes too. But the one time I have fallen down in recent years, boy I was really grabbing that camera. Stupid, I might have been hurt. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp0030002 5 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:479a1095212471631716978! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Body for me. I most recently got the DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135. Could use something on the wide end, but I could use the body more for the stuff I do. Then again, I got WW getting me to look into Large format, so there is always something competing for what money I have (or wish I had). -- Bruce Thursday, January 24, 2008, 11:38:37 AM, you wrote: SD I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D SD and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards SD buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to SD have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. SD So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Godders. I'm going to order that grip and give it a try. I might like it for walkarounds if not for other work. We'll see. Thirty-year habits are hard to break. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. Here's a picture of my Canon 10D fitted with it from 2003: http://homepage.mac.com/godders/10DwHakubaGrip.jpg I don't usually use a neckstrap. For hands free capabilities with a hand-strap, I use a modest size shoulder bag, strap across my shoulder and chest bandolier style, where I put the camera when I'm not actively taking pictures. I put a karabiner on the bag's strap so I can clip the camera to it by the hand strap when I'm juggling lenses during changing. Some cameras work well with a neck strap, like the Olympus E-1, because of the way the strap mounting lugs are made. But most modern cameras, with simply slot lugs ... I get very annoyed with the straps most of the time. The only SLR camera I've owned since 2000 with these slot lugs that actually did it RIGHT was the Canon EOS IX. The slot lugs pointed the strap *back* from the body so that the camera hung nose-down when on your shoulder or around your neck ... the sensible way they OUGHT to hang with a modern, bulky heavy lens on the front, rather than sticking the front element out in front of you like an erect penis or twisting up the strap to nose it down. That camera also hung under my shoulder and arm just right because of the strap lugs. Godfrey On Jan 25, 2008, at 10:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it can slip off the hand, can it not? I'm not sold on hand grips. When hung around the neck, I'm still holding the camera, so it doesn't bang on anything. If I'm in the clear of any objects, I sometimes just let it hang, but not all that often. I went to Amazon thinking I might want to by this strap and give it a try. Then I read one of the customer reviews: In a world of copies and imitations, this is just another piece of junk from the 3rd world. It fits poorly. You'd be better served by going to PetsMart for a nylon dog collar to thread through your camera's frame mount. Alternatively, spend the $ and buy an original from your camera's manufacturer. I sent mine back. H. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use one like this: http://www.amazon.com/Camera-wrist-camcorders-digital-cameras/dp/ B000OMR00C -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Steve Desjardins wrote: I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly but safely. g snicker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Just the hand strap: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194968-REG/ Hakuba_KGP02_Camera_Grip_LH.html You can add another security strap if you desire, but then the're the PH model with wrist strap: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/194967-REG/ Hakuba_KGP01_Camera_Grip_PH.html Godfrey On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it come with the auxiliary wrist strap? I didn't see any mention of that at BH. Paul -- Original message -- From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is the hand grip I have. I just couldn't remember the name while at school. It fits my hand well and I don't have to constantly grip the camera. Essentially, I have this grip and an auxiliary wrist strap in case it slips off my hand. I tested it over the bed, and it dangles alarmingly but safely. g Thanks Godders. I'm going to order that grip and give it a try. I might like it for walkarounds if not for other work. We'll see. Thirty- year habits are hard to break. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]~!B*+R^ The better quality version of this same hand grip is available from BH as the Hakuba Grip-LH for $19. I've been using them for years. They work very well, and provide another eyelet to allow you to also fit a neckstrap if you are so inclined. They make a model with a full- circle wrist loop as well to prevent you accidentally dropping the camera. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Next? New body unless I luck into a deal on a DA 14. I need the high ISO performance more than I need to upgrade my current 3 lens kit (Sigma 17-70, Tokina 28/2.8,FA 50/1.4). After that it's nothing but lenses. The K10D almost covered all my needs in a body and the K20D will solve the rest. -Adam On 1/24/08, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: New Body vs. New Lens I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Body. While one can never have too many lenses, at some point, one can have a ridiculous number of them. i am well past that point. OTOH, some of those new lenses do look really nice, don't they? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Right now, I'm happy with my K10D and happy with my collection of lenses. The next photo-related expenditures are likely to be more RAM and another external hard drive for the computer... Rick --- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Certainly new lenses. I'd really like to have that new Tamron 70-200. It's listed at a point where I could actually see myself finding the money somewhere, somehow. I figure the Pentax 60-250 will be more. CW - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: New Body vs. New Lens I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 9:58 AM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Have been impatiently awaiting release of the 60~250 which now may be rescheduled 'til this coming summer.(?) ITMT, I'm curious to learn a little about the 55~300. I imagine I'll get the K20D at some point, but want to give it a little time..if I can control myself. Jack --- Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now, I'm happy with my K10D and happy with my collection of lenses. The next photo-related expenditures are likely to be more RAM and another external hard drive for the computer... Rick --- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? While I would REALLY like to say I'll be getting one of the new items, the fact is that I probably can't afford any of them. However, if I could, my first move would be to sell my M* 300mm f4 and apply that money toward the DA*300. Close second would be the DA35 Limited, since I could really use a wider macro lens. Third option would be the K20D. I love the camera and all the wonderful improvements, but I'm going against my very nature and deciding I'll have to sit out this generation. When the K30D inevitably comes out, I'll be first on the waiting list. John Celio (is a serious technophile, so the above decision was not reached lightly) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 02:38:37PM -0500, Steve Desjardins wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Oh, the lenses. DA* 18-55, 50-135, and the new 300 all look nice. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Steve Desjardins wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? I have all the lenses I need and use. They're the best Pentax makes, in the focal lengths I want, so there's nowhere to go on that score for the foreseeable future. My Pentax kit has been without a backup body since I sold the second *ist DS, so I will buy a K20D at some point. But I had already made the decision to defer body purchases until later in the year. I have enough cameras and lenses that are working beautifully and producing the work I want to produce. I'm concentrating more on the photography and on the development of my business for a while. No need, at this moment, to go through yet another 'learning the body' distraction. Although, to be honest, I would enjoy it more if it were a male. ];-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? CW - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need, at this moment, to go through yet another 'learning the body' distraction. Although, to be honest, I would enjoy it more if it were a male. ];-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I noticed the new 300 has a tripod mount. They did listen. I'd still be hesitant to buy one - with my luck, they'd come out with a full frame sensor that would obsolete these DA lenses. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: New Body vs. New Lens I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Body. While one can never have too many lenses, at some point, one can have a ridiculous number of them. i am well past that point. OTOH, some of those new lenses do look really nice, don't they? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:38:37 -0500 Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? definitely lens for me. Macro. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: cbwaters Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Female. They get mounted from the front. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens I noticed the new 300 has a tripod mount. They did listen. I'd still be hesitant to buy one - with my luck, they'd come out with a full frame sensor that would obsolete these DA lenses. I'm guessing that the longer lenses will offer full frame coverage, no matter what the designation is. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Neither. Hopefully more/ better shooting opportunities. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bran Everseeking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:38:37 -0500 Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? definitely lens for me. Macro. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 24, 2008 5:45 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Lenses. I'm interested in either the 60-250 f4or the Tamron 70-200 f2.8 which ever gets here first And if the 60-250 is going to be ridicuously long, i'll graba used 80-320 for now. Several at Henrys Dave Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens
On Jan 24, 2008 4:38 PM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Z Dave CW - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need, at this moment, to go through yet another 'learning the body' distraction. Although, to be honest, I would enjoy it more if it were a male. ];-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:45:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? CW == You know, before I was amused. But now I am beginning to find this bit sexist. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 24, 2008 2:38 PM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Lenses. I'm interested in either the 60-250 f4or the Tamron 70-200 f2.8 which ever gets here first Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:58:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Right now, nothing. I have enough cameras and lenses. But my highest mp is 8, so eventually I want more mp. I have been sort of waiting to see what Pentax does. While I like the K100D I have better than the Canon XT I have, I now have a line up of good Canon glass. I am very interested in the 60-250. On the whole, Canon seems to make more telephotos and Pentax more wide angles. The more Pentax balances out it's lens line up, the more interested I get. However, for me, size is the big issue -- older lady with minimal upper body strength now. I still haven't held the K10D, it may be too big and heavy for me (with lens on). I looked at the Canon 40D recently and it was definitely too big and heavy for me. The little female clerk who finally came around, was totally overpowered by it herself. So the K200D is looking good to me too. But Canon might come out with another Rebel XT(something) with a better viewfinder. If the viewfinder remains poor I am leaning more and more Pentax's way. I am very, very interested in the new Pentax cameras. And in the lens line up. Waiting to see what happens. No rush to buy here, but very interested. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I believe that the 300 is the FA* optics with DA mechanics so it should cover full frame. It just doesn't have an aperture ring so it isn't a DFA. Ken Waller wrote: I noticed the new 300 has a tripod mount. They did listen. I'd still be hesitant to buy one - with my luck, they'd come out with a full frame sensor that would obsolete these DA lenses. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Body vs. New Lens - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: New Body vs. New Lens I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Body. While one can never have too many lenses, at some point, one can have a ridiculous number of them. i am well past that point. OTOH, some of those new lenses do look really nice, don't they? William Robb -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 25, 2008 4:38 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Maybe a new body. With the possibly of a whole new system. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Lenses. A Voigtlander 50mm 1.5 Nokton. Hopefully from B and H in May, in person. The K20D looks a nice piece of kit, but I'm not persuaded, sadly. After the lens, I will probably stick for a bit. If absolutely anything, I'll flog the 1DmII and look at a full-frame 1DsmIII maybe in a year or two. Maybe not. I took a long hard look at what I shoot, and what I get out if it. I've got too much stuff I don't use, so it's going on eBay from this weekend. All Canon, so I doubt anyone here would want it, although I suppose there's always the chance. MP-E 65mm macro, MR14 ringlight, 420EX flash. I was thinking about an M8, but to be honest it's overkill. I might look out for another R-D1. Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Some are X others are Y. ;+} Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Are they M or F? WAS: Re: New Body vs. New Lens For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? CW - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] No need, at this moment, to go through yet another 'learning the body' distraction. Although, to be honest, I would enjoy it more if it were a male. ];-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ken Waller wrote: From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Some are X others are Y. ;+} No, the females are XX and the males are XY. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 24, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Cotty wrote: Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat. Mark! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 24, 2008 6:32 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Lenses. A Voigtlander 50mm 1.5 Nokton. Hopefully from B and H in May, in person. The K20D looks a nice piece of kit, but I'm not persuaded, sadly. After the lens, I will probably stick for a bit. If absolutely anything, I'll flog the 1DmII and look at a full-frame 1DsmIII maybe in a year or two. Maybe not. I took a long hard look at what I shoot, and what I get out if it. I've got too much stuff I don't use, so it's going on eBay from this weekend. All Canon, so I doubt anyone here would want it, although I suppose there's always the chance. MP-E 65mm macro, MR14 ringlight, 420EX flash. I was thinking about an M8, but to be honest it's overkill. I might look out for another R-D1. Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat. Bad idea Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jan 24, 2008 6:06 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Waller wrote: From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? Some are X others are Y. ;+} No, the females are XX and the males are XY. And when the mounting occurs it's all XXX. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/24/2008 3:36:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat. -- Cheers, Cotty === Why bother to emigrate? You're already the (scape)goat of jokes right here. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The K10D K20D are only marginally smaller and lighter than the 40D. If small light is an issue, the new Rebel XSi might be something to look at. No SR, but it gets a much larger viewfinder (95%, .87x pentamirror, noticably larger than the K100D's) and improved grip design, along with a better battery than the XT/XTi. -Adam On 1/24/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:58:31 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Right now, nothing. I have enough cameras and lenses. But my highest mp is 8, so eventually I want more mp. I have been sort of waiting to see what Pentax does. While I like the K100D I have better than the Canon XT I have, I now have a line up of good Canon glass. I am very interested in the 60-250. On the whole, Canon seems to make more telephotos and Pentax more wide angles. The more Pentax balances out it's lens line up, the more interested I get. However, for me, size is the big issue -- older lady with minimal upper body strength now. I still haven't held the K10D, it may be too big and heavy for me (with lens on). I looked at the Canon 40D recently and it was definitely too big and heavy for me. The little female clerk who finally came around, was totally overpowered by it herself. So the K200D is looking good to me too. But Canon might come out with another Rebel XT(something) with a better viewfinder. If the viewfinder remains poor I am leaning more and more Pentax's way. I am very, very interested in the new Pentax cameras. And in the lens line up. Waiting to see what happens. No rush to buy here, but very interested. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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C'mon, folks. It's basic biology. The lens mounts =on= the camera. One puts film/cards =into= the camera. Mysterious things happen and pictures come =out=. Clearly the camera is female. The mystery is why manual focus and medium format cameras are referred to as MF. Gets confusing. Rick --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:45:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For me this Begs the question: Are cameras male or female? I had a discussion a while back with some audio guys about the gender of amplifiers and didn't get any definitive response. Some guys said X others said Y. So... Cameras...? CW == You know, before I was amused. But now I am beginning to find this bit sexist. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/24/2008 6:47:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The K10D K20D are only marginally smaller and lighter than the 40D. If small light is an issue, the new Rebel XSi might be something to look at. No SR, but it gets a much larger viewfinder (95%, .87x pentamirror, noticably larger than the K100D's) and improved grip design, along with a better battery than the XT/XTi. -Adam == I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around your neck on strap all day shooting it can become a very heavy load after a while. Actually, I didn't know the new Rebel was announced. I just assumed they would come out with one. Been paying too much attention to Pentax. :-) Thanks, Adam, I'll take a look. Well, I'll probably upgrade eventually to the K200D then. I sort of like having two systems, though I know that attitude bothers some people. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat. You're not already? Cotty wrote: On 24/01/08, Steve Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? Lenses. A Voigtlander 50mm 1.5 Nokton. Hopefully from B and H in May, in person. The K20D looks a nice piece of kit, but I'm not persuaded, sadly. After the lens, I will probably stick for a bit. If absolutely anything, I'll flog the 1DmII and look at a full-frame 1DsmIII maybe in a year or two. Maybe not. I took a long hard look at what I shoot, and what I get out if it. I've got too much stuff I don't use, so it's going on eBay from this weekend. All Canon, so I doubt anyone here would want it, although I suppose there's always the chance. MP-E 65mm macro, MR14 ringlight, 420EX flash. I was thinking about an M8, but to be honest it's overkill. I might look out for another R-D1. Or I might emigrate to Bhutan and become a goat. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered about that. If you're wearing the camera around your neck on strap all day shooting it can become a very heavy load after a while. Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Marnie, I use a neoprene rubber strap with my Medalist II, it's a very heavy beast close to three pounds in weight, but with the strap it doesn't seem heavier than the *ist-Ds with a the FA 20-35 mounted. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If I carry a camera via strap, it is almost always on my shoulder, hardly ever around my neck. Feels better, less obtrusive. One camera setup: camera on right shoulder when basically just moving from point A to point B, and then camera in hand (well, kinda hanging from two fingers and thumb) with strap wrapped a couple of times around my wrist when within obvious range of photo ops. Two camera setup: main camera in (dangling from) right hand as above, second camera on left shoulder. When I use the second camera, the first just dangles from my wrist. If I am going to be on a bus, subway, in a car etc. then the second camera goes into the backpack. I really liked the grip strap on the Pz-1p but haven't found anything with the same comfortable secure feel that I can use on *ist- D, K10D etc. Back on the Subject topic, I really want the DA*60-250. If it looks like that will keep getting pushed back, then I'll go for one K20D body to replace one of my K10's. But if the lens and body were both available now, I would buy the lens first with no hesitation. stan On Jan 24, 2008, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/24/2008 9:31:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something I've noticed is that a lot of photographers, myself included until a few years ago, pay a ton of attention to the weight of their gear and the size of their bags and such like ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) == Hmmm. I'll look into that Doug. I just use the strap that came with the camera. The ones with the brand logos. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy? NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... but no one ever seems to pay attention to the character of their strap. I'm here to tell you that, at least for me, the stretchy foam straps, for both camera and bag, seem to distribute the weight a lot better. I can carry a lot more weight for a lot longer with an appropriate strap. Ah, yes, the stretchy 'foam' straps are really great. I agree completely. I have one myself, and I really like it for all the reasons you mentioned. And the one I purchased was really quite inexpensive. Cheers, Christine PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah, if it were just between body lenses! I need a photo dedicated printer, more hard drive space, a scanner--and I want all of it now. Thanks for asking this question. It provoked some interesting responses, which a really enjoyed reading. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: New Body vs. New Lens I do like the looks of the K20D, but I'm also pretty happy with the K10D and I think that any extra money that comes my way will go towards buying one or two of those new lenses. Lots of new ones I would like to have. It's nice that Pentax is keeping ahead of me again. So what's more likely for you next: new body or new lenses? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
