Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
The answer is in your first post CW grumpy because the wife is late getting out of work and we're supposed to go out for dinner. Get her a second job. This should both improve her timekeeping and provide you with the money for essential purchases!!! A further benefit will be to your self esteem as you will not be reliant on handouts from list members Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
On Dec 28, 2007 5:43 PM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CW grumpy because the wife is late getting out of work and we're supposed to go out for dinner. Thats why i carry a BBQ in the truck.:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: It's hart, being outdated
Youse guys often talk about obsolescence. I'm running into a problem with my computer more often these days. Some of you might have older computers than I have so you should just quit reading now because I'll sound like I'm whining for nothing. It seems the upgrade parts, being so far out of production are either scarce or more expensive than newer/higher performance parts. My guy told me today that the PC3200 memory my computer uses is actually getting more expensive because production has ramped down to make newer stuff. I'm trying to find a decent but cheap video card but I don't have an AGP slot, let alone a PCI-E slot. PCI cards cost more. Oh, I suck... but I still feel like I have a valid problem. I can't afford to throw away computers that work well enough (mostly) and buy new technology for the sake of keeping-up but I've fallen behind the curve now and being three or four generations behind current sucks too... Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? CW grumpy because the wife is late getting out of work and we're supposed to go out for dinner. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
lol Youse guys often talk about obsolescence. I'm running into a problem with my computer more often these days. Some of you might have older computers than I have so you should just quit reading now because I'll sound like I'm whining for nothing. It seems the upgrade parts, being so far out of production are either scarce or more expensive than newer/higher performance parts. My guy told me today that the PC3200 memory my computer uses is actually getting more expensive because production has ramped down to make newer stuff. I'm trying to find a decent but cheap video card but I don't have an AGP slot, let alone a PCI-E slot. PCI cards cost more. Oh, I suck... but I still feel like I have a valid problem. I can't afford to throw away computers that work well enough (mostly) and buy new technology for the sake of keeping-up but I've fallen behind the curve now and being three or four generations behind current sucks too... Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? CW grumpy because the wife is late getting out of work and we're supposed to go out for dinner. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:43:57 -0500 cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? You might check into Freecycle and its equivalents. I recently found new home for most of my excess computer bits through lists like that locally. Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
I think I threw two of them out a couple of months ago, (after all who would want such ancient tech. couldn't even justify ebay). cbwaters wrote: Youse guys often talk about obsolescence. I'm running into a problem with my computer more often these days. Some of you might have older computers than I have so you should just quit reading now because I'll sound like I'm whining for nothing. It seems the upgrade parts, being so far out of production are either scarce or more expensive than newer/higher performance parts. My guy told me today that the PC3200 memory my computer uses is actually getting more expensive because production has ramped down to make newer stuff. I'm trying to find a decent but cheap video card but I don't have an AGP slot, let alone a PCI-E slot. PCI cards cost more. Oh, I suck... but I still feel like I have a valid problem. I can't afford to throw away computers that work well enough (mostly) and buy new technology for the sake of keeping-up but I've fallen behind the curve now and being three or four generations behind current sucks too... Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? CW grumpy because the wife is late getting out of work and we're supposed to go out for dinner. -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is complete the Bavarian Cream Illuminati will rule the world -- Anonymous -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
cbwaters wrote: Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? Hmm. I was just at the Goodwill computer shop today, donating a couple of old laptops. That's just the kind of thing they might have. I'll see if I can get back there next week. I can also check at school in a couple of weeks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
Buying a new Socket AM2 MB with 2GB of DDR2 RAM and a low-end Athlon 64 and a good PCI-E Video card will cost you less than a near-mythical decent PCI video card. Especially if that's PC3200 RDRAM rather than DDR SDRAM. PCI is long-dead as a video interface as it doesn't provide enough bandwidth for anything beyond basic 2D graphics. Any use of the GPU n I picked up a solid little HP Pavilion a1710n for $330 a couple weeks ago. Athlon 64 x2 4200+ (2.2GHz) Dual-core CPU, Asus MB with 4 slots for DDR2 SDRAM, 1 PCI-E and 3 PCI slots, 1GB of RAM, 320GB HD. Dropped a Radeon HD 3850 256MB card, Athlon 64 X2 6400+ (32.GHz Dualcore), an extra 2GB RAM, extra 500GB drive and a 430 watt PSU (upgrade over the stock 300W unit) for about $500, all prices in Canuck Peso's. It'll last me a while. But even the basic system with a low-end video would likely stomp your old machine, especially if you spend the $40 it costs to add 2GB of DDR2 RAM. -Adam On 12/28/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Youse guys often talk about obsolescence. I'm running into a problem with my computer more often these days. Some of you might have older computers than I have so you should just quit reading now because I'll sound like I'm whining for nothing. It seems the upgrade parts, being so far out of production are either scarce or more expensive than newer/higher performance parts. My guy told me today that the PC3200 memory my computer uses is actually getting more expensive because production has ramped down to make newer stuff. I'm trying to find a decent but cheap video card but I don't have an AGP slot, let alone a PCI-E slot. PCI cards cost more. Oh, I suck... but I still feel like I have a valid problem. I can't afford to throw away computers that work well enough (mostly) and buy new technology for the sake of keeping-up but I've fallen behind the curve now and being three or four generations behind current sucks too... Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? CW grumpy because the wife is late getting out of work and we're supposed to go out for dinner. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
Actually I saw one at the local Wal-Mart the other day. $78. PCI video cards are not really off the market quite yet. I keep thinking I ought to pick one up for trouble shooting. Graywolf (Tom Rittenhouse) Website: http://www.graywolfphoto.com Blog:http://www.graywolfphoto.com/journal/ --- Mark Roberts wrote: cbwaters wrote: Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
You can buy a nice, up to date PC for a few hundred bucks. At some point, it's smarter to bite the bullet and upgrade. Paul -- Original message -- From: Polyhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] lol Youse guys often talk about obsolescence. I'm running into a problem with my computer more often these days. Some of you might have older computers than I have so you should just quit reading now because I'll sound like I'm whining for nothing. It seems the upgrade parts, being so far out of production are either scarce or more expensive than newer/higher performance parts. My guy told me today that the PC3200 memory my computer uses is actually getting more expensive because production has ramped down to make newer stuff. I'm trying to find a decent but cheap video card but I don't have an AGP slot, let alone a PCI-E slot. PCI cards cost more. Oh, I suck... but I still feel like I have a valid problem. I can't afford to throw away computers that work well enough (mostly) and buy new technology for the sake of keeping-up but I've fallen behind the curve now and being three or four generations behind current sucks too... Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? CW grumpy because the wife is late getting out of work and we're supposed to go out for dinner. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Ben 'Polyhead' Smith KE7GAL -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
I might have a PCI video card. Let me look. Remind me off list to get back to you. Paul -- Original message -- From: Bran Everseeking [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:43:57 -0500 cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody got a 256MB PCI video card lying around? You might check into Freecycle and its equivalents. I recently found new home for most of my excess computer bits through lists like that locally. Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
If I generally had a few hundred bucks to replace stuff that actually mostly works, this whine/rant wouldn't exist. CW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated You can buy a nice, up to date PC for a few hundred bucks. At some point, it's smarter to bite the bullet and upgrade. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated
Having priced RAM lately, I bought a PC for very little more than the cost of 2 sticks of 1GB DDR400 (PC3200 RAM) and a HDD. -Adam On 12/28/07, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I generally had a few hundred bucks to replace stuff that actually mostly works, this whine/rant wouldn't exist. CW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: Re: OT: It's hart, being outdated You can buy a nice, up to date PC for a few hundred bucks. At some point, it's smarter to bite the bullet and upgrade. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
