Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
On Feb 23, 2014, at 06:54 , John wrote: Well, The Boston Bruins started playing in the 20's I can't seem to find a good date for when Olympic Hockey started but 1975 seems like a very late date for the entry of hockey as an Olympic event. I will admit that for a a long time, ice hockey was a northeast thing. But then. I live in Boston. John G. HooRah Bahston and the Bruins. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
I've always thought Finland is one of the coolest places on earth. Disproportionate number of great hockey players (one can see why) and incredible race car drivers (all that winter rallying?). Beautiful scenery, too. Cheers, frank On 23 February, 2014 8:01:26 PM EST, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: FWIW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNr3nK_bvKQ On 2/22/2014 4:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: And now the US loses to Finland!!! Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I want to be Pony trekking or camping Or just watching TV Finland, Finland, Finland It's the country for me You're so near to Russia So far from Japan Quite a long way from Cairo Lots of miles from Vietnam Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I want to be Eating breakfast or dinner Or snack lunch in the hall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all You're so sadly neglected And often ignored A poor second to Belgium When going abroad Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I quite want to be Your mountains so lofty Your treetops so tall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all Oh focus on Finland friends Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I quite want to be Your mountains so lofty Your treetops so tall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all, Finland has it all Michael Palin Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're right, it is nationalism. Hockey is part of the soul of the country so winning is a big deal. And no, not much to gloat about. Except maybe universal health care. ;-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:47:44 PM EST, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... This doesn't count as politics? Strictly speaking, it is Nationalism (not politics). The Olympics has been used as a grand stage for political purposes (think the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics) and also used for political purposes (think Jimmy Carter boycotting the Moscow Olympics in 1980) but the games themselves are not political. However, the entire format of the games is to promote competition based upon Nationalism. I think everyone should cut Frank some slack. Canadians have so little they can gloat over. :) :) :) “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
Well, The Boston Bruins started playing in the 20's I can't seem to find a good date for when Olympic Hockey started but 1975 seems like a very late date for the entry of hockey as an Olympic event. I will admit that for a a long time, ice hockey was a northeast thing. But then. I live in Boston. John G. On 2/22/2014 7:04 PM, Bill wrote: On 22/02/2014 3:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. That was the year we let the Washington Capitals in. It seems Washington getting involved in something always changes everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
I have a distant family connection with (ice) hockey in Canada. I'm related to the Stanley family who created the Stanley Cup. My 3 times great grandfather was the 13th Earl of Derby and it was his grandson, the 16th Earl who donated the cup during his time as Governor General to Canada. Apparently many of his family members took to the game. Sadly, my lineage is somewhat doubtful as my grandfather didn't marry my grandmother until 5 years after my mother (whose birth certificate gives her surname as Stanley) was born. He had to wait until his first wife died. He had been a naughty boy at some point, being defrocked as a Church of England curate (we're desperately trying to find out the facts of the defrocking!). Still, he did all right - he was 64 when my mother was born and my grandmother was 23... On 22 February 2014 22:31, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Many cities and towns lay claim to holding the first hockey game. Halifax thinks they had it. Montreal does, too. A very plausible theory has the first game in Kingston, Ontario between Montreal's McGill University (an alma mater of mine, which is why it's likely true) and Royal Military College. Truth is it evolved from earlier forms of shinny or grass hockey so it's a matter of conjecture as to when it crystalized into ice hockey. Whatever, we've been playing it for a long time and the game almost certainly began somewhere here (although some New England town claims it, too!). I think it's great that it's become so internationally loved. Favourite hockey joke, care of Rodney Dangerfield: I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out. Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 4:31:45 PM EST, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. It was probably a variant of field hockey type games played in Ireland and Scotland. Oxford University in the UK started playing ice hockey in 1885. Yale and John Hopkins in the U.S. started playing in 1893. The University of Michigan and Michigan State University played their first varsity hockey game in 1922. On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... Analysis kills spontaneity. -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Analysis kills spontaneity. -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
On 23 Feb 2014, at 22:11, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: I have a distant family connection with (ice) hockey in Canada. I'm related to the Stanley family who created the Stanley Cup. My 3 times great grandfather was the 13th Earl of Derby and it was his grandson, the 16th Earl who donated the cup during his time as Governor General to Canada. Apparently many of his family members took to the game. Sadly, my lineage is somewhat doubtful as my grandfather didn't marry my grandmother until 5 years after my mother (whose birth certificate gives her surname as Stanley) was born. He had to wait until his first wife died. He had been a naughty boy at some point, being defrocked as a Church of England curate (we're desperately trying to find out the facts of the defrocking!). Still, he did all right - he was 64 when my mother was born and my grandmother was 23... Your curate had this stroke of luck: His granddad invented the puck. To show he was manly The Reverend Stanley Taught nice English girls how to pray. B On 22 February 2014 22:31, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Many cities and towns lay claim to holding the first hockey game. Halifax thinks they had it. Montreal does, too. A very plausible theory has the first game in Kingston, Ontario between Montreal's McGill University (an alma mater of mine, which is why it's likely true) and Royal Military College. Truth is it evolved from earlier forms of shinny or grass hockey so it's a matter of conjecture as to when it crystalized into ice hockey. Whatever, we've been playing it for a long time and the game almost certainly began somewhere here (although some New England town claims it, too!). I think it's great that it's become so internationally loved. Favourite hockey joke, care of Rodney Dangerfield: I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out. Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 4:31:45 PM EST, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. It was probably a variant of field hockey type games played in Ireland and Scotland. Oxford University in the UK started playing ice hockey in 1885. Yale and John Hopkins in the U.S. started playing in 1893. The University of Michigan and Michigan State University played their first varsity hockey game in 1922. On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... Analysis kills spontaneity. -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. Analysis kills spontaneity. -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
FWIW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNr3nK_bvKQ On 2/22/2014 4:24 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: And now the US loses to Finland!!! Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I want to be Pony trekking or camping Or just watching TV Finland, Finland, Finland It's the country for me You're so near to Russia So far from Japan Quite a long way from Cairo Lots of miles from Vietnam Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I want to be Eating breakfast or dinner Or snack lunch in the hall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all You're so sadly neglected And often ignored A poor second to Belgium When going abroad Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I quite want to be Your mountains so lofty Your treetops so tall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all Oh focus on Finland friends Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I quite want to be Your mountains so lofty Your treetops so tall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all, Finland has it all Michael Palin Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're right, it is nationalism. Hockey is part of the soul of the country so winning is a big deal. And no, not much to gloat about. Except maybe universal health care. ;-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:47:44 PM EST, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... This doesn't count as politics? Strictly speaking, it is Nationalism (not politics). The Olympics has been used as a grand stage for political purposes (think the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics) and also used for political purposes (think Jimmy Carter boycotting the Moscow Olympics in 1980) but the games themselves are not political. However, the entire format of the games is to promote competition based upon Nationalism. I think everyone should cut Frank some slack. Canadians have so little they can gloat over. :) :) :) “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
Didn't even notice. You did say first *organized* ice hockey game. On 2/22/2014 4:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Doh. Make that 1875 in Montreal. But you knew that. On Feb 22, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. It was probably a variant of field hockey type games played in Ireland and Scotland. Oxford University in the UK started playing ice hockey in 1885. Yale and John Hopkins in the U.S. started playing in 1893. The University of Michigan and Michigan State University played their first varsity hockey game in 1922. On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
On 2/23/2014 5:26 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: Your curate had this stroke of luck: His granddad invented the puck. To show he was manly The Reverend Stanley Taught nice English girls how to pray. B Need I say it, *MARK*! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... This doesn't count as politics? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
Congrats to Canada for their wins. Cheers, Christine On Feb 21, 2014, at 5:48 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... :-) Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... This doesn't count as politics? Strictly speaking, it is Nationalism (not politics). The Olympics has been used as a grand stage for political purposes (think the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics) and also used for political purposes (think Jimmy Carter boycotting the Moscow Olympics in 1980) but the games themselves are not political. However, the entire format of the games is to promote competition based upon Nationalism. I think everyone should cut Frank some slack. Canadians have so little they can gloat over. :) :) :) -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
You're right, it is nationalism. Hockey is part of the soul of the country so winning is a big deal. And no, not much to gloat about. Except maybe universal health care. ;-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:47:44 PM EST, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... This doesn't count as politics? Strictly speaking, it is Nationalism (not politics). The Olympics has been used as a grand stage for political purposes (think the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics) and also used for political purposes (think Jimmy Carter boycotting the Moscow Olympics in 1980) but the games themselves are not political. However, the entire format of the games is to promote competition based upon Nationalism. I think everyone should cut Frank some slack. Canadians have so little they can gloat over. :) :) :) “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
And friendly people. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're right, it is nationalism. Hockey is part of the soul of the country so winning is a big deal. And no, not much to gloat about. Except maybe universal health care. ;-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:47:44 PM EST, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... This doesn't count as politics? Strictly speaking, it is Nationalism (not politics). The Olympics has been used as a grand stage for political purposes (think the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics) and also used for political purposes (think Jimmy Carter boycotting the Moscow Olympics in 1980) but the games themselves are not political. However, the entire format of the games is to promote competition based upon Nationalism. I think everyone should cut Frank some slack. Canadians have so little they can gloat over. :) :) :) “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
And now the US loses to Finland!!! Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I want to be Pony trekking or camping Or just watching TV Finland, Finland, Finland It's the country for me You're so near to Russia So far from Japan Quite a long way from Cairo Lots of miles from Vietnam Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I want to be Eating breakfast or dinner Or snack lunch in the hall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all You're so sadly neglected And often ignored A poor second to Belgium When going abroad Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I quite want to be Your mountains so lofty Your treetops so tall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all Oh focus on Finland friends Finland, Finland, Finland The country where I quite want to be Your mountains so lofty Your treetops so tall Finland, Finland, Finland Finland has it all, Finland has it all Michael Palin Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:01 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: You're right, it is nationalism. Hockey is part of the soul of the country so winning is a big deal. And no, not much to gloat about. Except maybe universal health care. ;-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:47:44 PM EST, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... This doesn't count as politics? Strictly speaking, it is Nationalism (not politics). The Olympics has been used as a grand stage for political purposes (think the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics) and also used for political purposes (think Jimmy Carter boycotting the Moscow Olympics in 1980) but the games themselves are not political. However, the entire format of the games is to promote competition based upon Nationalism. I think everyone should cut Frank some slack. Canadians have so little they can gloat over. :) :) :) “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Olympic Hockey
It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. It was probably a variant of field hockey type games played in Ireland and Scotland. Oxford University in the UK started playing ice hockey in 1885. Yale and John Hopkins in the U.S. started playing in 1893. The University of Michigan and Michigan State University played their first varsity hockey game in 1922. On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doh. Make that 1875 in Montreal. But you knew that. On Feb 22, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. It was probably a variant of field hockey type games played in Ireland and Scotland. Oxford University in the UK started playing ice hockey in 1885. Yale and John Hopkins in the U.S. started playing in 1893. The University of Michigan and Michigan State University played their first varsity hockey game in 1922. On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com: Many cities and towns lay claim to holding the first hockey game. Halifax thinks they had it. Montreal does, too. A very plausible theory has the first game in Kingston, Ontario between Montreal's McGill University (an alma mater of mine, which is why it's likely true) and Royal Military College. Truth is it evolved from earlier forms of shinny or grass hockey so it's a matter of conjecture as to when it crystalized into ice hockey. Whatever, we've been playing it for a long time and the game almost certainly began somewhere here (although some New England town claims it, too!). I think it's great that it's become so internationally loved. I was going to say that ice hockey isn't widely loved downunder but I thought I should check first. Turns out that there is an Australian Ice Hockey Federation (www.iha.org.au/view/iha) with six State-based teams. Who would have guessed? The game gets almost no coverage in the press here - except when there's a particularly spectacular brawl in one of the Northern Hemisphere games - so I have no idea how popular it is. Even Field Hockey only gets moderate coverage even though Australian teams are in the top half dozen internationally. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Many cities and towns lay claim to holding the first hockey game. Halifax thinks they had it. Montreal does, too. A very plausible theory has the first game in Kingston, Ontario between Montreal's McGill University (an alma mater of mine, which is why it's likely true) and Royal Military College. Truth is it evolved from earlier forms of shinny or grass hockey so it's a matter of conjecture as to when it crystalized into ice hockey. Whatever, we've been playing it for a long time and the game almost certainly began somewhere here (although some New England town claims it, too!). I think it's great that it's become so internationally loved. Favourite hockey joke, care of Rodney Dangerfield: I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out. Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 4:31:45 PM EST, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. It was probably a variant of field hockey type games played in Ireland and Scotland. Oxford University in the UK started playing ice hockey in 1885. Yale and John Hopkins in the U.S. started playing in 1893. The University of Michigan and Michigan State University played their first varsity hockey game in 1922. On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 22/02/2014 3:01 PM, knarf wrote: You're right, it is nationalism. Hockey is part of the soul of the country so winning is a big deal. And no, not much to gloat about. Except maybe universal health care. That and we are us and not anyone else. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 22/02/2014 3:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. That was the year we let the Washington Capitals in. It seems Washington getting involved in something always changes everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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And, to tie this to another thread, the Washington Capitals featured that great Rusyn hockey player, Peter Bondra. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 22/02/2014 3:31 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. That was the year we let the Washington Capitals in. It seems Washington getting involved in something always changes everything. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Almost certainly of military origin in Canada. Introduction of the puck must have been the defining moment. A fast furious sport today. However, Ladies (Field) Hockey is much more pleasing to the eye. I'm sure Larry would agree! Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - Olympic Hockey Many cities and towns lay claim to holding the first hockey game. Halifax thinks they had it. Montreal does, too. A very plausible theory has the first game in Kingston, Ontario between Montreal's McGill University (an alma mater of mine, which is why it's likely true) and Royal Military College. Truth is it evolved from earlier forms of shinny or grass hockey so it's a matter of conjecture as to when it crystalized into ice hockey. Whatever, we've been playing it for a long time and the game almost certainly began somewhere here (although some New England town claims it, too!). I think it's great that it's become so internationally loved. Favourite hockey joke, care of Rodney Dangerfield: I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out. Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 4:31:45 PM EST, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: It seems as though the first organized ice hockey game may have been played in Montreal in 1975. It was probably a variant of field hockey type games played in Ireland and Scotland. Oxford University in the UK started playing ice hockey in 1885. Yale and John Hopkins in the U.S. started playing in 1893. The University of Michigan and Michigan State University played their first varsity hockey game in 1922. On Feb 22, 2014, at 3:59 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: The Americans always have strong teams and you always bring your best game to us. For a hundred years or more hockey has been our game. While we weren't watching the rest of the world (the cold world, anyway) started playing and improving and all of a sudden thirty years ago guys with names like Mogilny, Federov, Salming, Hasek and Koivu started playing here and dominating. Oh yeah, guys like Brian Leech, too. It was a shock. When I was a kid every NHL player was Canadian except two Americans and they were journeymen. Now I doubt that Canadians comprise more than 50% of the league, probably less. Hockey is engrained in our national psyche in a way you can't imagine; like baseball might have been in the US up to the 1950s. So when we win internationally it's a big deal around here. And to beat our close friends and natural rivals it's all the sweeter. :-) Cheers, frank On 22 February, 2014 2:31:56 PM EST, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, that's about as surprising as the Dutch wins in speed skating. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On 21/02/2014, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... :-) Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bite me! On 2/21/2014 6:48 PM, knarf wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... :-) Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Total Olympic medals ! nuff said :+) Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: OT - Olympic Hockey Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... :-) Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Feb 21, 2014, at 6:48 PM, knarf knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Men's. Women's. Canada vs. USA. 'Nuff said... :-) Cheers, frank “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel Aren’t you the one who keeps reminding us to avoid religious or political discussions here? Your comment is both! stan (;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
