Re: OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
Fri Sep 6 00:47:24 EDT 2013 Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 September 2013 03:08, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Hi Matthew, Thanks for sharing this one. I see that some reviews and questions to the answers suggest that the microphone is designed to be powered (although not with the phantom mic power? - sounds weird?). I understand that if you use it with a computer, you need to enable the microphone boost option. It is not a problem by itself, but depending on the device you are planning to use it with, you may have some difficulties with the level of the signal. Condenser or capacitive mics (which this obviously is) need pre-amplification close to the module and ao require power. Larger mics are often battery powered, balanced pro-mics use Phantom power. This type of mic is supplied DC from the mic socket and is generally termed Plug-in Power, of course not all devices provide this mic power. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/insights/blogs/pro-audio/using-lavalier-microphones-recorders.html http://support.pentaximaging.com/node/616 Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Thank you, Rob for the reference. While knowing that condenser mics require power, I just have never spent a moment to think about that in relation to the fact that the computers and recorders must provide that via the input port. Now, I am curious, and couldn't find the answer by googling: Boost in Windows' microphone settings, - does it turn on the plug-in power, or does it really boost the sound card (pre-) amplifier? A curious thing: While reading and searching, - I also discovered, that apparently, Macs have (had?) a special microphone with a special 3.5mm (aka 1/8) plug: http://www.directproaudio.com/shop/accessories/guide/microphone-sound-card.cfm#Macintosh Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
There are some electret condenser microphones that can be powered by an internal battery instead of phantom power. On 9/8/2013 9:14 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Fri Sep 6 00:47:24 EDT 2013 Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 September 2013 03:08, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Hi Matthew, Thanks for sharing this one. I see that some reviews and questions to the answers suggest that the microphone is designed to be powered (although not with the phantom mic power? - sounds weird?). I understand that if you use it with a computer, you need to enable the microphone boost option. It is not a problem by itself, but depending on the device you are planning to use it with, you may have some difficulties with the level of the signal. Condenser or capacitive mics (which this obviously is) need pre-amplification close to the module and ao require power. Larger mics are often battery powered, balanced pro-mics use Phantom power. This type of mic is supplied DC from the mic socket and is generally termed Plug-in Power, of course not all devices provide this mic power. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/insights/blogs/pro-audio/using-lavalier-microphones-recorders.html http://support.pentaximaging.com/node/616 Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Thank you, Rob for the reference. While knowing that condenser mics require power, I just have never spent a moment to think about that in relation to the fact that the computers and recorders must provide that via the input port. Now, I am curious, and couldn't find the answer by googling: Boost in Windows' microphone settings, - does it turn on the plug-in power, or does it really boost the sound card (pre-) amplifier? A curious thing: While reading and searching, - I also discovered, that apparently, Macs have (had?) a special microphone with a special 3.5mm (aka 1/8) plug: http://www.directproaudio.com/shop/accessories/guide/microphone-sound-card.cfm#Macintosh Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
In answer to your question at the end of this message. Note that the text refers to Quadra's and PowerPC's microphones that come with the computer. They are talking early to mid-90s here, and refer to the little mini-hockey puck mics Apple used to ship with their computers. Soft foam backing, about 1.5 diameter, beige. Then Apple realized money could be made selling mics to people, and letting aftermarket whiners into the fray, so they stopped the practice. I can assume without looking up the tech that the only equipment that still uses such a system is iPhones and iPads, but their extended pin on their mic/earphone combo is only to allow both audio sections to share one ground and are mono. Possibly making some assumptions there, and I'll be corrected if so, but for best sound, either use a mic with internal pre-amplification, or run mikes into a small mixer that provides such amplification and has a control to limit or boost it. I've never had a problem plugging a Sony Lav mike into my MacBook, MiniDisc Recorders, and my K5. I've plugged several mics into my K-5, and/or line outs from a Sony and/or Tascam mixer. Most of my concert/Live recordings (back in the day) I used PZM plate mics attached to a 1 x 2' piece of lumber hoisted above the crowd. They were designed for 2 AA batteries, but I modified the battery holder to take a 9V battery. It withstood the SPLs of really loud outdoor and indoor amplification with cleaner sound. On Sep 8, 2013, at 06:14 , Igor Roshchin wrote: Fri Sep 6 00:47:24 EDT 2013 Rob Studdert wrote: On 6 September 2013 03:08, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Hi Matthew, Thanks for sharing this one. I see that some reviews and questions to the answers suggest that the microphone is designed to be powered (although not with the phantom mic power? - sounds weird?). I understand that if you use it with a computer, you need to enable the microphone boost option. It is not a problem by itself, but depending on the device you are planning to use it with, you may have some difficulties with the level of the signal. Condenser or capacitive mics (which this obviously is) need pre-amplification close to the module and ao require power. Larger mics are often battery powered, balanced pro-mics use Phantom power. This type of mic is supplied DC from the mic socket and is generally termed Plug-in Power, of course not all devices provide this mic power. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/insights/blogs/pro-audio/using-lavalier-microphones-recorders.html http://support.pentaximaging.com/node/616 Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Thank you, Rob for the reference. While knowing that condenser mics require power, I just have never spent a moment to think about that in relation to the fact that the computers and recorders must provide that via the input port. Now, I am curious, and couldn't find the answer by googling: Boost in Windows' microphone settings, - does it turn on the plug-in power, or does it really boost the sound card (pre-) amplifier? A curious thing: While reading and searching, - I also discovered, that apparently, Macs have (had?) a special microphone with a special 3.5mm (aka 1/8) plug: http://www.directproaudio.com/shop/accessories/guide/microphone-sound-card.cfm#Macintosh Igor Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
I have not bought it yet, but this has been on my shopping list for a while on the strength of its reviews: http://stdw.us/162dZZJ Olympus ME-15 Microphone On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi All, Last month, there was a thread here where Cotty was suggesting some (rather expensive) high quality microphones for video recording. I am looking for a very inexpensive lapel (lavalier) microphone that is suitable for use with Skype and laptop (while traveling light, - hence the small size requirement). I had mine that I believe came with an md-player (nobody probably remembers those) or a tape-recorder. I've used it for over 10 years, sometimes even as an external mic for K-7 or K-5. Recently my daughter pulled on it, and the plastic clip broke off. Any suggestions? Requirements: inexpensive, reasonable sound quality, probably omnidirectional, durable. Wired (3.5mm mini jack), not wirless. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
Hi Matthew, Thanks for sharing this one. I see that some reviews and questions to the answers suggest that the microphone is designed to be powered (although not with the phantom mic power? - sounds weird?). I understand that if you use it with a computer, you need to enable the microphone boost option. It is not a problem by itself, but depending on the device you are planning to use it with, you may have some difficulties with the level of the signal. Igor Thu Sep 5 12:32:09 EDT 2013 Matthew Hunt wrote: I have not bought it yet, but this has been on my shopping list for a while on the strength of its reviews: http://stdw.us/162dZZJ Olympus ME-15 Microphone On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: Hi All, Last month, there was a thread here where Cotty was suggesting some (rather expensive) high quality microphones for video recording. I am looking for a very inexpensive lapel (lavalier) microphone that is suitable for use with Skype and laptop (while traveling light, - hence the small size requirement). I had mine that I believe came with an md-player (nobody probably remembers those) or a tape-recorder. I've used it for over 10 years, sometimes even as an external mic for K-7 or K-5. Recently my daughter pulled on it, and the plastic clip broke off. Any suggestions? Requirements: inexpensive, reasonable sound quality, probably omnidirectional, durable. Wired (3.5mm mini jack), not wirless. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013, Igor Roshchin wrote: Requirements: inexpensive, reasonable sound quality, probably omnidirectional, durable. Wired (3.5mm mini jack), not wirless. Not exactly what you're looking for, but I recently got the Panasonic KX-TCA60 headset (with mic), and it's working well for me. It's designed for cordless phones, so you need to get a 2.5-3.5mm adapter. (I'm only mentioning this because you mentioned Skype.) -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
Hi All, Last month, there was a thread here where Cotty was suggesting some (rather expensive) high quality microphones for video recording. I am looking for a very inexpensive lapel (lavalier) microphone that is suitable for use with Skype and laptop (while traveling light, - hence the small size requirement). I had mine that I believe came with an md-player (nobody probably remembers those) or a tape-recorder. I've used it for over 10 years, sometimes even as an external mic for K-7 or K-5. Recently my daughter pulled on it, and the plastic clip broke off. Any suggestions? Requirements: inexpensive, reasonable sound quality, probably omnidirectional, durable. Wired (3.5mm mini jack), not wirless. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Any advice for inexpensive lapel microphones?
On 6 September 2013 03:08, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Hi Matthew, Thanks for sharing this one. I see that some reviews and questions to the answers suggest that the microphone is designed to be powered (although not with the phantom mic power? - sounds weird?). I understand that if you use it with a computer, you need to enable the microphone boost option. It is not a problem by itself, but depending on the device you are planning to use it with, you may have some difficulties with the level of the signal. Condenser or capacitive mics (which this obviously is) need pre-amplification close to the module and ao require power. Larger mics are often battery powered, balanced pro-mics use Phantom power. This type of mic is supplied DC from the mic socket and is generally termed Plug-in Power, of course not all devices provide this mic power. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/insights/blogs/pro-audio/using-lavalier-microphones-recorders.html http://support.pentaximaging.com/node/616 Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
