Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

The 135/235 arrived today and the shutter would only cock twice before
refusing to cock again. So it is being returned.

Sort of intrigued by the Ysarex you mentioned. Will have to keep my
eye open for one.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Thanks for the tips, Collin.
> I found one of these (with a bunch of scales) for $5 at a thrift store
> (Just need to fashion a way to keep it around my neck):
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O==40696=Cj0KEQiAxMG1BRDFmu3P3qjwmeMBEiQAEzSDLoPsJd5-X24vAKPJsV_tfFq2IpM3UR-PIzmGE7dChtwaAtZS8P8HAQ=REG=y=Y==details
>
> Black & White is all I'm planning on doing, ATTM. I've heard good &
> bad about the 135/235. I'm trying to buy stuff "right" so if I don't
> care for something I can at least get my money back out of it and try
> something else.
>
> You are right about the prices. Good time to get into large format, 
> price-wise.
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
>  wrote:
>> The camera is nice.
>>
>> Get a good focusing loupe.  You'll really come to appreciate it.
>> And a really good focusing cloth.
>> And a changing tent. A bag is ok, but a tent is wonderful.
>>
>> And a good lens.  The 135/235 is fine for b but that's it's limit. (I had
>> one.)
>> A modern NIkkor or Rodenstock makes a fine lens and these days the prices
>> are quite modest.
>> If you can dig up a Rodenstock Ysarex *135mm*, that's a keeper.  It's among
>> the last of the series and performs beautifully.
>> If you happen to be rich, a Super Symmar ...
>> Or camera bling ...
>> http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00F/00FHx2-28225684.jpg
>>
>> A few shots with a plasmat or a Tessar and you will soon see the image
>> formation difference over and above the Gaussian design.
>>
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[John]

At my camera club meeting last night the main speaker gave a
presentation on wet-plate collodion process photography. He's doing both
tin-type & glass negatives. He said most people who try it only last
about 6 months and never touch it again. He's been doing it as a
professional portrait photographer for 4 years now.

I found it really interesting, and his images were quite good, but I
don't think I'm going to try it myself.

I also got a lead for some part-time work I might be able to handle.



On 2/2/2016 7:15 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

The camera is nice.

Get a good focusing loupe.  You'll really come to appreciate it.
And a really good focusing cloth.
And a changing tent. A bag is ok, but a tent is wonderful.

And a good lens.  The 135/235 is fine for b but that's it's limit. (I had
one.)
A modern NIkkor or Rodenstock makes a fine lens and these days the prices
are quite modest.
If you can dig up a Rodenstock Ysarex *135mm*, that's a keeper.  It's among
the last of the series and performs beautifully.
If you happen to be rich, a Super Symmar ...
Or camera bling ...
http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00F/00FHx2-28225684.jpg

A few shots with a plasmat or a Tessar and you will soon see the image
formation difference over and above the Gaussian design.




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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Stanley Halpin]

> On Feb 2, 2016, at 4:53 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> At my camera club meeting last night the main speaker gave a
> presentation on wet-plate collodion process photography. He's doing both
> tin-type & glass negatives. He said most people who try it only last
> about 6 months and never touch it again. He's been doing it as a
> professional portrait photographer for 4 years now.

On my recent travels, in Valparaiso Chile I was taking pictures of some of the 
street art when a passer-by noticed the 645Z, stopped to ask what it was, etc. 
He then introduced himself as a professional photographer doing portraiture 
using exclusively wet-plate collodion process. Such persons provide a nice 
counter-balance to those who think that photography is all about the newest and 
best toys.
> 
> I found it really interesting, and his images were quite good, but I
> don't think I'm going to try it myself.
> 
> I also got a lead for some part-time work I might be able to handle.
> 

That sounds good!

stan


> 
> 
> On 2/2/2016 7:15 AM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:
>> The camera is nice.
>> 
>> Get a good focusing loupe.  You'll really come to appreciate it.
>> And a really good focusing cloth.
>> And a changing tent. A bag is ok, but a tent is wonderful.
>> 
>> And a good lens.  The 135/235 is fine for b but that's it's limit. (I had
>> one.)
>> A modern NIkkor or Rodenstock makes a fine lens and these days the prices
>> are quite modest.
>> If you can dig up a Rodenstock Ysarex *135mm*, that's a keeper.  It's among
>> the last of the series and performs beautifully.
>> If you happen to be rich, a Super Symmar ...
>> Or camera bling ...
>> http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00F/00FHx2-28225684.jpg
>> 
>> A few shots with a plasmat or a Tessar and you will soon see the image
>> formation difference over and above the Gaussian design.
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

Thanks for the tips, Collin.
I found one of these (with a bunch of scales) for $5 at a thrift store
(Just need to fashion a way to keep it around my neck):
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O==40696=Cj0KEQiAxMG1BRDFmu3P3qjwmeMBEiQAEzSDLoPsJd5-X24vAKPJsV_tfFq2IpM3UR-PIzmGE7dChtwaAtZS8P8HAQ=REG=y=Y==details

Black & White is all I'm planning on doing, ATTM. I've heard good &
bad about the 135/235. I'm trying to buy stuff "right" so if I don't
care for something I can at least get my money back out of it and try
something else.

You are right about the prices. Good time to get into large format, price-wise.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:15 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> The camera is nice.
>
> Get a good focusing loupe.  You'll really come to appreciate it.
> And a really good focusing cloth.
> And a changing tent. A bag is ok, but a tent is wonderful.
>
> And a good lens.  The 135/235 is fine for b but that's it's limit. (I had
> one.)
> A modern NIkkor or Rodenstock makes a fine lens and these days the prices
> are quite modest.
> If you can dig up a Rodenstock Ysarex *135mm*, that's a keeper.  It's among
> the last of the series and performs beautifully.
> If you happen to be rich, a Super Symmar ...
> Or camera bling ...
> http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00F/00FHx2-28225684.jpg
>
> A few shots with a plasmat or a Tessar and you will soon see the image
> formation difference over and above the Gaussian design.
>
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Collin Brendemuehl]

The camera is nice.

Get a good focusing loupe.  You'll really come to appreciate it.
And a really good focusing cloth.
And a changing tent. A bag is ok, but a tent is wonderful.

And a good lens.  The 135/235 is fine for b but that's it's limit. (I had
one.)
A modern NIkkor or Rodenstock makes a fine lens and these days the prices
are quite modest.
If you can dig up a Rodenstock Ysarex *135mm*, that's a keeper.  It's among
the last of the series and performs beautifully.
If you happen to be rich, a Super Symmar ...
Or camera bling ...
http://static.photo.net/attachments/bboard/00F/00FHx2-28225684.jpg

A few shots with a plasmat or a Tessar and you will soon see the image
formation difference over and above the Gaussian design.


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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[John]

I think that's a mule.

On 2/1/2016 7:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Thanks Steve. One piece of equipment that I *wasn't* considering was a
horse. That's going to mean a horse trailer and a truck to pull it.
This large format stuff is getting expensive!

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:41 PM, steve harley  wrote:

On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:


I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
to do that either.) I've got some ideas.



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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

Thanks Steve. One piece of equipment that I *wasn't* considering was a
horse. That's going to mean a horse trailer and a truck to pull it.
This large format stuff is getting expensive!

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:41 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
>> protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
>> of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
>> to do that either.) I've got some ideas.
>
>
> came across this today and thought it might inspire you:
>
> 
>
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[steve harley]

On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:

I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
to do that either.) I've got some ideas.


came across this today and thought it might inspire you:



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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

Googling is not turning up any Mule Trailers. They must be rarer.
Anybody have any idea what THEY cost?

On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 PM, John  wrote:
> I think that's a mule.
>
> On 2/1/2016 7:57 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Steve. One piece of equipment that I *wasn't* considering was a
>> horse. That's going to mean a horse trailer and a truck to pull it.
>> This large format stuff is getting expensive!
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:41 PM, steve harley  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2016-01-31 14:50 , Darren Addy wrote:


 I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
 protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
 of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
 to do that either.) I've got some ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> came across this today and thought it might inspire you:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

Thanks for the replies Ken and Bulent.

I'm glad to learn that my tripod (Manfrotto 3021BPRO) should be
adequate to support the camera. Also, I'm glad I chose the Arca-Swiss
p0 monoball as it appears to be more than adequate for the job.
(Although it is unusual to use a ball head with a view camera, it is
not unheard of, though it is a little more difficult than having the
separate axis controls - so I may still add another tripod head to the
arsenal.)

I also discovered that a black Polyester/Nylon-lined V-neck pullover
is PERFECT for this camera as a focusing cloth. The stretch v-neck
goes nicely over the rotating back and you put your head up in the
body opening. A hand can go up a sleeve for holding the focusing loupe
and yet can still do fine focusing without taking your hand out of the
sleeve.

I also found an interesting lens that I had to pick up because it was
priced so reasonably (at least I think it was). It is a Schneider
Kreuznach Symmar 135mm f/5.6 that converts to a 235mm f/12 lens by
unscrewing the front element. I also found in a forum thread, the idea
that by removing the rear element and screwing it into the front, one
can get a macro with a 3:1 reproduction ratio. (Yep: 3:1, not 1:3). I
guess I'll know more once it arrives. Some people seem to like it and
others are not so enthusiastic but the versatility in a single large
format lens was appealing to me - and its capabilitied fit well with
my Fujinon 90mm f/8. (Those focal lengths give me 35mm equivalents of
28mm, 45mm, and 78mm).

I still need to work out how I'm going to transport it while
protecting it. (There are reasons that they make Field Cameras instead
of taking a monorail out into the elements. But I'm not the first guy
to do that either.) I've got some ideas.

Here's a look at 'er: http://antiqueauto.org/assets/45D.JPG


On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 3:51 AM, Bulent Celasun
 wrote:
> Thanks Darren,
>
> I really do wonder if I can devote my (always less than planned)
> time to "view camera" work...
>
> Please continue to share your experiences.
>
> Bulent
>
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>
> 2016-01-27 8:37 GMT+02:00 Darren Addy :
>> My Toyo/Omega 45D arrived from KEH today and it is a Beautiful Thing.
>> I don't know why, but I feel like a whole different way of thinking
>> about photography has finally arrived at my door. (Both my lens for it
>> and the recessed lens board are delayed thanks to the blizzard in the
>> eastern U.S. so it will be a bit before I get to take it out.)  Then
>> again, maybe I *do* know why:
>>
>> It is like the diametric opposite of my Whiz-Bang K-3 II. It's a
>> bellows with endless swings, shifts, and tilts on both ends and a
>> rotating back. Composition with it requires a very slow, templative
>> process, the opposite of 8 fps. It requires separate metering
>> (preferrably spot metering). Each exposure can be developed
>> individually (or not). The resulting negative can be scanned (to go
>> back into digital post-processing world) OR printed the traditional
>> way in a wet darkroom. (I'm fascinated by both "stand development" and
>> "Lith Printing" at the moment and learning more about both.)
>>
>> This camera has me pulling Fred Picker's "Zone VI Workshop" off the
>> bookshelf, with a purpose. It embodies the romance of an upside down
>> image projected upon a ground glass, under a focusing cloth, with the
>> ability to manipulate the plane of focus as well as perspective
>> correction at exposure time.
>>
>> With the addition of this new format, I'm as excited about photography
>> (in all of its many forms) as I have probably ever been in my life.
>>
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Bulent Celasun]

Thanks Darren,

I really do wonder if I can devote my (always less than planned)
time to "view camera" work...

Please continue to share your experiences.

Bulent

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2016-01-27 8:37 GMT+02:00 Darren Addy :
> My Toyo/Omega 45D arrived from KEH today and it is a Beautiful Thing.
> I don't know why, but I feel like a whole different way of thinking
> about photography has finally arrived at my door. (Both my lens for it
> and the recessed lens board are delayed thanks to the blizzard in the
> eastern U.S. so it will be a bit before I get to take it out.)  Then
> again, maybe I *do* know why:
>
> It is like the diametric opposite of my Whiz-Bang K-3 II. It's a
> bellows with endless swings, shifts, and tilts on both ends and a
> rotating back. Composition with it requires a very slow, templative
> process, the opposite of 8 fps. It requires separate metering
> (preferrably spot metering). Each exposure can be developed
> individually (or not). The resulting negative can be scanned (to go
> back into digital post-processing world) OR printed the traditional
> way in a wet darkroom. (I'm fascinated by both "stand development" and
> "Lith Printing" at the moment and learning more about both.)
>
> This camera has me pulling Fred Picker's "Zone VI Workshop" off the
> bookshelf, with a purpose. It embodies the romance of an upside down
> image projected upon a ground glass, under a focusing cloth, with the
> ability to manipulate the plane of focus as well as perspective
> correction at exposure time.
>
> With the addition of this new format, I'm as excited about photography
> (in all of its many forms) as I have probably ever been in my life.
>
> --
> Life is too short to put up with bad bokeh.
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Re: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Ken Waller]

Sounds like the trip will be as enjoyable as the destination.

Enjoy !

-Original Message-
>From: Darren Addy <pixelsmithy@gmail.
>Subject: OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera
>
>My Toyo/Omega 45D arrived from KEH today and it is a Beautiful Thing.
>I don't know why, but I feel like a whole different way of thinking
>about photography has finally arrived at my door. (Both my lens for it
>and the recessed lens board are delayed thanks to the blizzard in the
>eastern U.S. so it will be a bit before I get to take it out.)  Then
>again, maybe I *do* know why:
>
>It is like the diametric opposite of my Whiz-Bang K-3 II. It's a
>bellows with endless swings, shifts, and tilts on both ends and a
>rotating back. Composition with it requires a very slow, templative
>process, the opposite of 8 fps. It requires separate metering
>(preferrably spot metering). Each exposure can be developed
>individually (or not). The resulting negative can be scanned (to go
>back into digital post-processing world) OR printed the traditional
>way in a wet darkroom. (I'm fascinated by both "stand development" and
>"Lith Printing" at the moment and learning more about both.)
>
>This camera has me pulling Fred Picker's "Zone VI Workshop" off the
>bookshelf, with a purpose. It embodies the romance of an upside down
>image projected upon a ground glass, under a focusing cloth, with the
>ability to manipulate the plane of focus as well as perspective
>correction at exposure time.
>
>With the addition of this new format, I'm as excited about photography
>(in all of its many forms) as I have probably ever been in my life.
>
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OT: Enablement... 4x5 monorail view camera

[Darren Addy]

My Toyo/Omega 45D arrived from KEH today and it is a Beautiful Thing.
I don't know why, but I feel like a whole different way of thinking
about photography has finally arrived at my door. (Both my lens for it
and the recessed lens board are delayed thanks to the blizzard in the
eastern U.S. so it will be a bit before I get to take it out.)  Then
again, maybe I *do* know why:

It is like the diametric opposite of my Whiz-Bang K-3 II. It's a
bellows with endless swings, shifts, and tilts on both ends and a
rotating back. Composition with it requires a very slow, templative
process, the opposite of 8 fps. It requires separate metering
(preferrably spot metering). Each exposure can be developed
individually (or not). The resulting negative can be scanned (to go
back into digital post-processing world) OR printed the traditional
way in a wet darkroom. (I'm fascinated by both "stand development" and
"Lith Printing" at the moment and learning more about both.)

This camera has me pulling Fred Picker's "Zone VI Workshop" off the
bookshelf, with a purpose. It embodies the romance of an upside down
image projected upon a ground glass, under a focusing cloth, with the
ability to manipulate the plane of focus as well as perspective
correction at exposure time.

With the addition of this new format, I'm as excited about photography
(in all of its many forms) as I have probably ever been in my life.

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Re: OT: Enablement? 4x5 film holders (Any ideas?)

[Mark C]

Pinholes are a ton of fun. I've been using a TLR converted to a pinhole 
- a very simple and easy system to work with:


http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/kinoflex-tlr-pinhole?blog=9

On my camera, the pinhole is not very good - its only ~ f180 and was 
drilled, not a laser hole. So lots of distortion but not the real long 
times that come at higher f stops. But, the finder lens in the TLR 
corresponds well with the pinhole "lens" so framing shots in very easy, 
and the finder lens is actually quite bright. Just set the camera to "B" 
mode and shoot away. Looking at my camera - it was modified simply by 
removing the glass lens and replacing it with a pinhole. No need to 
change the shutter or anything else. Seems like a simple modification 
for the mechanically inclined, and even "broken" tlrs - clouded lenses, 
stuck apertures, inaccurate shutters - could be converted so long as the 
shutter B (or T) mode works and film can still be spooled into it.


I tried using a 6x7 Pinhole body cap from this place:

http://www.pinholeedun.com/Products_and_Ordering.html

Much better pinhole than the TLR but you can't frame up the shot with 
the body cap in place - so you get into lens swapping. (A finder that 
corresponds to a normal lens might work and I have one (for the Pentax 
Q) that would fit into a flash hotshoe - if only the 6x7 had a 
hotshoe...) Also the body cap is not light proof so either you get light 
leaks or use some kind of tape to block the light leaks... More fiddly 
than the TLR approach but it produces some nice results.


Have fun!

Mark




On 1/16/2016 11:10 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

Not that anybody has expressed any interest, but it is a slow weekend
so I'm going to post a little follow-up.

My recent 4x5 sheet film holder enablement has reignited my desire to
get into pinhole cameras. I've had such a hankering since at least
back to 2009 when I bookmarked a bunch of resources. Never having
enough books, I ordered Brian J. Krummel's "The Pinhole Camera" (which
has great reviews) and it arrived late this week.

The thing that fascinates me about pinhole is the stretching of time
through long exposures. It causes you to look at scenes in a
different way. Sort of like using a 10x ND filter, but different. Also
the extreme "f-stop" means that everything is in focus (extreme DOF).
I also like that there are a million different ways to make pinhole
cameras: flat film plane, curved film plane, anamorphic film plane...
each with different results. You can use photographic paper for the
negatives or film for the negatives.

I also like the whimsy potential of many pinhole cameras (oatmeal
boxes, empty paint cans, wooden cigar boxes, etc.) You can also
exercise your woodworking skills, if you like. This 13 part YouTube
video series is a little slow and tedious, but also very educational
(showing workarounds when things don't go 100% according to plans)...
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LktSccQhfbM

In other enablement news, I've got a thing for Pentax preset lenses
and I found a minty 1957 Takumar 135mm f3.5 with original leather case
and the metal lens cap that says simply "PENTAX". I've wanted that
lens cap for a long time. So it is on its way now. It will find its
place alongside my other preset lenses, the Macro-Takumar 50mm f/4,
the Tele-Takumar 200mm f/5.6 and 300mm f/6.3, and the Takumar 200mm
f/3.5. I've also got a preset Auto Vivitar 85mm f/1.8 but I've got
some difficulty (T-mount or otherwise) because I can't make it reach
infinity focus.


On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:

There's a stall on Greenwich market which sells them as picture frames.

B


On 4 Jan 2016, at 01:30, Darren Addy  wrote:

I call upon the PDML Collective Hive for ideas (and, optionally,
LINKS) to fun things to do with 4x5 film holders. I tripped across a
box of some, priced too cheaply, at a local antique store and bought
the lot intending to sell the majority.

However, I intend to keep 2 or 3 for myself. One obvious project would
be to make a pinhole camera. Anyone have a favorite design (or plans)
to share? (PS: International Pinhole Photography Day is April 24,
2016)

I've also seen some ultrawide (think Hasselblad SWC) cameras built,
but those would require the future purchase of a wide lens/shutter
combo that is outside my planned expenditures for at least a while.

Alternative ideas are also welcomed. I have no 4x5 camera ATTM, but I
suppose buying or building one of those from scratch would be another
possibility. I do have a 4x5 enlarger and paper up to 20x24 that I'm
itching to do SOMETHING with.

PS... if you are interested, a good video 5 minute video on Pinhole
can be found here:
http://www.withoutlenses.com/articles/general/about-pinhole-from-nancy-breslin


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Re: OT: Enablement? 4x5 film holders (Any ideas?)

[steve harley]

On 2016-01-16 21:10 , Darren Addy wrote:

My recent 4x5 sheet film holder enablement has reignited my desire to
get into pinhole cameras. I've had such a hankering since at least
back to 2009 when I bookmarked a bunch of resources. Never having
enough books, I ordered Brian J. Krummel's "The Pinhole Camera" (which
has great reviews) and it arrived late this week.


i have just been going through my stock of unused stuff and you got me 
thinking — i have a few 4x5 filmholders and a B Grover view camera sans 
lens-board (both thrifted) — sounds like all i'd need is to make a pinhole, 
get some film, or maybe just mix up a photosensitive medium …




In other enablement news, I've got a thing for Pentax preset lenses
and I found a minty 1957 Takumar 135mm f3.5 with original leather case
and the metal lens cap that says simply "PENTAX". I've wanted that
lens cap for a long time. So it is on its way now. It will find its
place alongside my other preset lenses, the Macro-Takumar 50mm f/4,
the Tele-Takumar 200mm f/5.6 and 300mm f/6.3, and the Takumar 200mm
f/3.5. I've also got a preset Auto Vivitar 85mm f/1.8 but I've got
some difficulty (T-mount or otherwise) because I can't make it reach
infinity focus.


i too have the Macro-Takumar 50/4 and it's a real sweetie on m43 — it's 
light enough to not completely imbalance the camera, the EVF compensates for 
the darkened view, and the center-magnify function is a great macro focus 
aid; it's going with me on my next trip (rest of kit will be E-M5, 20/1.7 
and 14/2.8) … sic non transit gloria Pentax



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Re: OT: Enablement? 4x5 film holders (Any ideas?)

[Darren Addy]

Cool Steve!
Misery loves company, so cool to hear you have an easy path to a
pinhole camera. You have the added benefit of being able to vary your
focal length with the view camera. Here's a handy calculator to help
make sense of the variables: http://www.mrpinhole.com/calcpinh.php
Also, if you have photographic paper around you can go with that in
the film holder for a very slow ISO medium. Contact print for
positives, or use a scanner to convert to digital.

Also glad to hear you plan on getting some use out of your
Macro-Takumar preset.  Look forward to seeing some shots from that
trip with it!

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Re: OT: Enablement? 4x5 film holders (Any ideas?)

[Darren Addy]

Not that anybody has expressed any interest, but it is a slow weekend
so I'm going to post a little follow-up.

My recent 4x5 sheet film holder enablement has reignited my desire to
get into pinhole cameras. I've had such a hankering since at least
back to 2009 when I bookmarked a bunch of resources. Never having
enough books, I ordered Brian J. Krummel's "The Pinhole Camera" (which
has great reviews) and it arrived late this week.

The thing that fascinates me about pinhole is the stretching of time
through long exposures. It causes you to look at scenes in a
different way. Sort of like using a 10x ND filter, but different. Also
the extreme "f-stop" means that everything is in focus (extreme DOF).
I also like that there are a million different ways to make pinhole
cameras: flat film plane, curved film plane, anamorphic film plane...
each with different results. You can use photographic paper for the
negatives or film for the negatives.

I also like the whimsy potential of many pinhole cameras (oatmeal
boxes, empty paint cans, wooden cigar boxes, etc.) You can also
exercise your woodworking skills, if you like. This 13 part YouTube
video series is a little slow and tedious, but also very educational
(showing workarounds when things don't go 100% according to plans)...
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LktSccQhfbM

In other enablement news, I've got a thing for Pentax preset lenses
and I found a minty 1957 Takumar 135mm f3.5 with original leather case
and the metal lens cap that says simply "PENTAX". I've wanted that
lens cap for a long time. So it is on its way now. It will find its
place alongside my other preset lenses, the Macro-Takumar 50mm f/4,
the Tele-Takumar 200mm f/5.6 and 300mm f/6.3, and the Takumar 200mm
f/3.5. I've also got a preset Auto Vivitar 85mm f/1.8 but I've got
some difficulty (T-mount or otherwise) because I can't make it reach
infinity focus.


On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:25 AM, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> There's a stall on Greenwich market which sells them as picture frames.
>
> B
>
>> On 4 Jan 2016, at 01:30, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>
>> I call upon the PDML Collective Hive for ideas (and, optionally,
>> LINKS) to fun things to do with 4x5 film holders. I tripped across a
>> box of some, priced too cheaply, at a local antique store and bought
>> the lot intending to sell the majority.
>>
>> However, I intend to keep 2 or 3 for myself. One obvious project would
>> be to make a pinhole camera. Anyone have a favorite design (or plans)
>> to share? (PS: International Pinhole Photography Day is April 24,
>> 2016)
>>
>> I've also seen some ultrawide (think Hasselblad SWC) cameras built,
>> but those would require the future purchase of a wide lens/shutter
>> combo that is outside my planned expenditures for at least a while.
>>
>> Alternative ideas are also welcomed. I have no 4x5 camera ATTM, but I
>> suppose buying or building one of those from scratch would be another
>> possibility. I do have a 4x5 enlarger and paper up to 20x24 that I'm
>> itching to do SOMETHING with.
>>
>> PS... if you are interested, a good video 5 minute video on Pinhole
>> can be found here:
>> http://www.withoutlenses.com/articles/general/about-pinhole-from-nancy-breslin
>>
>>
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Re: OT: Enablement? 4x5 film holders (Any ideas?)

[Bob W-PDML]

There's a stall on Greenwich market which sells them as picture frames.

B

> On 4 Jan 2016, at 01:30, Darren Addy  wrote:
> 
> I call upon the PDML Collective Hive for ideas (and, optionally,
> LINKS) to fun things to do with 4x5 film holders. I tripped across a
> box of some, priced too cheaply, at a local antique store and bought
> the lot intending to sell the majority.
> 
> However, I intend to keep 2 or 3 for myself. One obvious project would
> be to make a pinhole camera. Anyone have a favorite design (or plans)
> to share? (PS: International Pinhole Photography Day is April 24,
> 2016)
> 
> I've also seen some ultrawide (think Hasselblad SWC) cameras built,
> but those would require the future purchase of a wide lens/shutter
> combo that is outside my planned expenditures for at least a while.
> 
> Alternative ideas are also welcomed. I have no 4x5 camera ATTM, but I
> suppose buying or building one of those from scratch would be another
> possibility. I do have a 4x5 enlarger and paper up to 20x24 that I'm
> itching to do SOMETHING with.
> 
> PS... if you are interested, a good video 5 minute video on Pinhole
> can be found here:
> http://www.withoutlenses.com/articles/general/about-pinhole-from-nancy-breslin
> 
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OT: Enablement? 4x5 film holders (Any ideas?)

[Darren Addy]

I call upon the PDML Collective Hive for ideas (and, optionally,
LINKS) to fun things to do with 4x5 film holders. I tripped across a
box of some, priced too cheaply, at a local antique store and bought
the lot intending to sell the majority.

However, I intend to keep 2 or 3 for myself. One obvious project would
be to make a pinhole camera. Anyone have a favorite design (or plans)
to share? (PS: International Pinhole Photography Day is April 24,
2016)

 I've also seen some ultrawide (think Hasselblad SWC) cameras built,
but those would require the future purchase of a wide lens/shutter
combo that is outside my planned expenditures for at least a while.

Alternative ideas are also welcomed. I have no 4x5 camera ATTM, but I
suppose buying or building one of those from scratch would be another
possibility. I do have a 4x5 enlarger and paper up to 20x24 that I'm
itching to do SOMETHING with.

PS... if you are interested, a good video 5 minute video on Pinhole
can be found here:
http://www.withoutlenses.com/articles/general/about-pinhole-from-nancy-breslin


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OT: enablement-no … not another camera. new wheels ...

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I've got this nice Bianchi which I never ride, for various reasons. But I've 
been wanting to get back into riding every day for a little bit at least. So 
... 

I wanted something that I could easily put in the car (two-seat sports car), 
that was easy to get on and off, that was simple and low maintenance, and that 
was comfortable and nimble. Doesn't have to be fast, doesn't have to be capable 
of cross country or touring use. Just portable, useful, nice to ride, and fun. 

I ordered one of these:

  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/Brompton_Sage-Green.jpg

Rode one last weekend and I was hooked. Amazingly comfortable and easy to ride, 
yet very stable and fun too. Big basket clips on the front that swallows up my 
laptop bag for intra-campus commuting during my work day. And check out how 
small it can be:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJG1L5vdpI

Should be here by the end of the coming week. :-)

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Re: OT: enablement-no … not another camera. new wheels ...

[Christine Aguila]

That bike looks great fun.  I just checked and there's a dealer in Chicago that 
carries the Brompton line.  I may run down there and do a test ride.  Cheers, 
Christine.



On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:

 I've got this nice Bianchi which I never ride, for various reasons. But I've 
 been wanting to get back into riding every day for a little bit at least. So 
 ... 
 
 I wanted something that I could easily put in the car (two-seat sports car), 
 that was easy to get on and off, that was simple and low maintenance, and 
 that was comfortable and nimble. Doesn't have to be fast, doesn't have to be 
 capable of cross country or touring use. Just portable, useful, nice to ride, 
 and fun. 
 
 I ordered one of these:
 
  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/Brompton_Sage-Green.jpg
 
 Rode one last weekend and I was hooked. Amazingly comfortable and easy to 
 ride, yet very stable and fun too. Big basket clips on the front that 
 swallows up my laptop bag for intra-campus commuting during my work day. And 
 check out how small it can be:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJG1L5vdpI
 
 Should be here by the end of the coming week. :-)
 
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Re: OT: enablement-no … not another camera. new wheels ...

[Bob W]

On 1 Jun 2013, at 15:27, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote:

 I've got this nice Bianchi which I never ride, for various reasons. But I've 
 been wanting to get back into riding every day for a little bit at least. So 
 ... 
 
 I wanted something that I could easily put in the car (two-seat sports car), 
 that was easy to get on and off, that was simple and low maintenance, and 
 that was comfortable and nimble. Doesn't have to be fast, doesn't have to be 
 capable of cross country or touring use. Just portable, useful, nice to ride, 
 and fun. 
 

Even before I saw the link I knew it was a Brompton! Are they well-known 
outside the UK? They are actually hand-made in London. Great bikes. They have 
quite big gears and are generally the only small-wheeled bike - ridden by young 
men with colossal thighs - that ever overtakes me on my commute.

 I ordered one of these:
 
  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25268645/Brompton_Sage-Green.jpg
 
 Rode one last weekend and I was hooked. Amazingly comfortable and easy to 
 ride, yet very stable and fun too. Big basket clips on the front that 
 swallows up my laptop bag for intra-campus commuting during my work day. And 
 check out how small it can be:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJG1L5vdpI
 
 Should be here by the end of the coming week. :-)


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Re: OT: enablement-no … not another camera. new wheels ...

[mike wilson]

On 01/06/2013, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
snip - ridden by young men with colossal thighs - snip

It's alright, he's already bought it.  No need for the, ahem, hard sell.

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OT enablement

[Larry Colen]

I was visiting a friend tonight, and his wife had 
mentioned having an old film nikon she no longer 
used and wanted to give to me.  Turns out it was 
an FG. It also turns out that it has something wrong
with it. The mirror is stuck in the up position, 
and the shutter won't cock.

However, it also came with an AIS mount Nikkor 50/1.8.
The one Nikon lens I was seriously missing was a fast 
standard.  

Even cooler, she also gave me a micro Nikkor 55/2.8 
1:1 macro lens.

At this point, I can't help but wonder what a used
D7000 would go for.

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Re: OT enablement

[Bill]

On 07/05/2013 12:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was visiting a friend tonight, and his wife had
mentioned having an old film nikon she no longer
used and wanted to give to me.  Turns out it was
an FG. It also turns out that it has something wrong
with it. The mirror is stuck in the up position,
and the shutter won't cock.
FG was an acronym for Fucking Garbage. It is the absolutely worst camera 
Nikon put their name onto.
You can try putting a couple of batteries into it, and then smack the 
base of the camera into the palm of your hand HARD to make the mirror drop.
You might fix the mirror lock up, but you might also break the flex 
board that runs from the shutter button over the prism and to the 
electronics on the other side. (if the board isn't already snapped.




However, it also came with an AIS mount Nikkor 50/1.8.
The one Nikon lens I was seriously missing was a fast
standard.

Is it the AIS or the Series E?
  


Even cooler, she also gave me a micro Nikkor 55/2.8
1:1 macro lens.

Nice lens.

bill

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[Collin Brendemuehl]

FG was an acronym for Fucking Garbage. It is the absolutely worst camera 
Nikon put their name onto.
You can try putting a couple of batteries into it, and then smack the 
base of the camera into the palm of your hand HARD to make the mirror drop.
You might fix the mirror lock up, but you might also break the flex 
board that runs from the shutter button over the prism and to the 
electronics on the other side. (if the board isn't already snapped.

The Cosina-made FM-10 and FE-10 were worse


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Re: OT enablement

[Larry Colen]

On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:32:28AM -0600, Bill wrote:
 On 07/05/2013 12:31 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 I was visiting a friend tonight, and his wife had
 mentioned having an old film nikon she no longer
 used and wanted to give to me.  Turns out it was
 an FG. It also turns out that it has something wrong
 with it. The mirror is stuck in the up position,
 and the shutter won't cock.
 FG was an acronym for Fucking Garbage. It is the absolutely worst
 camera Nikon put their name onto.
 You can try putting a couple of batteries into it, and then smack
 the base of the camera into the palm of your hand HARD to make the
 mirror drop.

Or I can set it to m90, at which point it no longer needs the battery
to take a photo.  The battery was just dead. 

 You might fix the mirror lock up, but you might also break the flex
 board that runs from the shutter button over the prism and to the
 electronics on the other side. (if the board isn't already snapped.
 
 
 However, it also came with an AIS mount Nikkor 50/1.8.
 The one Nikon lens I was seriously missing was a fast
 standard.
 Is it the AIS or the Series E?

I'm not aware of the difference, though one of my 100 or 105s has
an e in the description (105e/2.8?)

This is a Nikkor 50mm 1:1.8 4057598
It's about twice the size of my DA 40 ltd and about half the 
size of my DA 35 macro.

 
 Even cooler, she also gave me a micro Nikkor 55/2.8
 1:1 macro lens.
 Nice lens.
 
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Re: OT Enablement

[Boris Liberman]

I should second that. I've got electronic viewfinder for my Ricoh GXR
and although it's not showing correct colors, the rest is really nice.
It has additional property of having no ill effects on camera
batteries whereas manual focusing (with peaking assist) is easy.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:02 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 I sent the K-5 for cleaning and focus adjustment along with the DA40 for 
 repairs, and when the part for the lens finally appeared they found that the 
 K-5 had stains and the sensor should be changed. So it will be gone for 
 three more weeks.

 We are going for a holiday and although they offered me a preproduction K-r I 
 bought a Fujifilm x100 instead as a backup camera (I don¨t need another 
 system camera).

 The x100 is really nice. Compact and light, sharp lens and it looks very 
 similar to my first camera, Olympus 35RC from the 70s. Aperture ring around 
 the lens, shutter speed dial on top and even a threaded hole in the shutter 
 button for the old fashioned cable release.

 The most interesting part for me is the viewfinder. For those who don´t know 
 the x100 view finder is a mixture where you can choose between the old type 
 glass viewfinder with frame and some information, and an EVF. I find that I 
 like the EVF a lot, even if it lags a bit on this camera. It is nice to see 
 the effect of the exposure compensation in the viewfinder. I think the focus 
 screens of the K-5 (and most other new cameras) is not very good with large 
 aperture lenses as you neither are able to get an impression of the out of 
 focus background nor the precise focus.

 So actually I´m starting to hope for an EVF K-3. What-you-see-is-what-you-get 
 finder and maybe even more compact, and the same great lenses.

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[wendy beard]

I bought the x100 when it first came out. Lovely camera, but focal
length didn't suit most of what I was shooting. I would have preferred
for it to be just a touch longer. I sold it and bought the x10 instead

Wendy

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 On 26/9/12, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:

We are going for a holiday and although they offered me a preproduction
K-r I bought a Fujifilm x100 instead as a backup camera (I don¨t need
another system camera).

The x100 is really nice. Compact and light, sharp lens and it looks very
similar to my first camera, Olympus 35RC from the 70s. Aperture ring
around the lens, shutter speed dial on top and even a threaded hole in
the shutter button for the old fashioned cable release.

The most interesting part for me is the viewfinder. For those who don´t
know the x100 view finder is a mixture where you can choose between the
old type glass viewfinder with frame and some information, and an EVF. I
find that I like the EVF a lot, even if it lags a bit on this camera. It
is nice to see the effect of the exposure compensation in the
viewfinder. I think the focus screens of the K-5 (and most other new
cameras) is not very good with large aperture lenses as you neither are
able to get an impression of the out of focus background nor the precise
focus.

 I've briefly handled Bob W's X100 and it feels so good in the hands. I
 am seriously considering a black X100 to go with my X10 :)

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OT Enablement

[DagT]

I sent the K-5 for cleaning and focus adjustment along with the DA40 for 
repairs, and when the part for the lens finally appeared they found that the 
K-5 had stains and the sensor should be changed. So it will be gone for three 
more weeks.

We are going for a holiday and although they offered me a preproduction K-r I 
bought a Fujifilm x100 instead as a backup camera (I don¨t need another system 
camera).

The x100 is really nice. Compact and light, sharp lens and it looks very 
similar to my first camera, Olympus 35RC from the 70s. Aperture ring around the 
lens, shutter speed dial on top and even a threaded hole in the shutter button 
for the old fashioned cable release. 

The most interesting part for me is the viewfinder. For those who don´t know 
the x100 view finder is a mixture where you can choose between the old type 
glass viewfinder with frame and some information, and an EVF. I find that I 
like the EVF a lot, even if it lags a bit on this camera. It is nice to see the 
effect of the exposure compensation in the viewfinder. I think the focus 
screens of the K-5 (and most other new cameras) is not very good with large 
aperture lenses as you neither are able to get an impression of the out of 
focus background nor the precise focus.

So actually I´m starting to hope for an EVF K-3. What-you-see-is-what-you-get 
finder and maybe even more compact, and the same great lenses.

DagT
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Re: OT Enablement

[Steve Cottrell]

On 26/9/12, DagT, discombobulated, unleashed:

We are going for a holiday and although they offered me a preproduction
K-r I bought a Fujifilm x100 instead as a backup camera (I don¨t need
another system camera).

The x100 is really nice. Compact and light, sharp lens and it looks very
similar to my first camera, Olympus 35RC from the 70s. Aperture ring
around the lens, shutter speed dial on top and even a threaded hole in
the shutter button for the old fashioned cable release. 

The most interesting part for me is the viewfinder. For those who don´t
know the x100 view finder is a mixture where you can choose between the
old type glass viewfinder with frame and some information, and an EVF. I
find that I like the EVF a lot, even if it lags a bit on this camera. It
is nice to see the effect of the exposure compensation in the
viewfinder. I think the focus screens of the K-5 (and most other new
cameras) is not very good with large aperture lenses as you neither are
able to get an impression of the out of focus background nor the precise
focus.

I've briefly handled Bob W's X100 and it feels so good in the hands. I
am seriously considering a black X100 to go with my X10 :)

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OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[Ann Sanfedele]

Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year 
warranty. It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little 
annoyances which I'm hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new 
wide screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - 
automatically picks up what is right.


It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not 
fully .


can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons 
on the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond 
to mouse.


Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the 
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line 
for $179..


ann

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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[Bruce Walker]

Ann, you should go to www.hp.com, type S1933 in the search box and
look for the link that says support and driver package. You can
download the Windows drivers with ICC profile.

To get the manuals look for the link Manuals on the left, click it
and type S1933 in the What for box. You can get quick start and user
manuals.

Cheers!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year warranty.
 It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little annoyances which I'm
 hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
 for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new wide
 screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - automatically picks
 up what is right.

 It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
 fully .

 can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons on
 the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond to
 mouse.

 Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
 isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
 display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
 I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line for
 $179..

 ann

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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[John Mullan]

Ann,

Press MENU you bring up the menu, use the +/-  keys on the monitor to move 
up and down to select the menu item you wish to change.  Press the OK button 
to select that and a new menu should pop up for that setting, again arrows 
change the value, use OK to step to the save or return, and OK to select. 
When done use MENU to exit.


John Mullan


-Original Message- 
From: Ann Sanfedele

Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:50 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year
warranty. It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little
annoyances which I'm hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new
wide screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct -
automatically picks up what is right.

It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
fully .

can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons
on the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond
to mouse.

Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line
for $179..

ann

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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[Ann Sanfedele]

Thanks, Bruce!

ann


On 9/25/2012 20:38, Bruce Walker wrote:

Ann, you should go to www.hp.com, type S1933 in the search box and
look for the link that says support and driver package. You can
download the Windows drivers with ICC profile.

To get the manuals look for the link Manuals on the left, click it
and type S1933 in the What for box. You can get quick start and user
manuals.

Cheers!


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year warranty.
It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little annoyances which I'm
hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new wide
screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - automatically picks
up what is right.

It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
fully .

can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons on
the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond to
mouse.

Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line for
$179..

ann

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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[Igor Roshchin]

Ann,

Sorry, I don't have time for more, but here is the manual for you:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02868122.pdf

HTH,

Igor


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele annsan at nyc.rr.com wrote:
 Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year warranty.
 It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little annoyances which I'm
 hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
 for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new wide
 screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - automatically picks
 up what is right.

 It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
 fully .

 can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons on
 the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond to
 mouse.

 Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
 isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
 display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
 I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line for
 $179..

 ann


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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[Ann Sanfedele]

Well somehow I managed to change color tone back to normal from warm but 
there is no OK button

it says auto, -, +, menu and the on/off button

I'll get in person help tomorrow or Thursday...

it opens up little windows with stuff I dont understand on it and within 
the window I can't go up or down


sigh

ann


On 9/25/2012 21:29, John Mullan wrote:

Ann,

Press MENU you bring up the menu, use the +/-  keys on the monitor to
move up and down to select the menu item you wish to change.  Press the
OK button to select that and a new menu should pop up for that setting,
again arrows change the value, use OK to step to the save or return, and
OK to select. When done use MENU to exit.

John Mullan


-Original Message- From: Ann Sanfedele
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:50 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year
warranty. It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little
annoyances which I'm hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new
wide screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct -
automatically picks up what is right.

It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
fully .

can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons
on the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond
to mouse.

Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line
for $179..

ann



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Re: OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[Ann Sanfedele]

Thanks Igor  - at least I got the brightness down now... phew..

ann

On 9/25/2012 21:34, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Ann,

Sorry, I don't have time for more, but here is the manual for you:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02868122.pdf

HTH,

Igor


On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele annsan at nyc.rr.com wrote:

Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year warranty.
It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little annoyances which I'm
hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new wide
screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct - automatically picks
up what is right.

It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
fully .

can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons on
the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond to
mouse.

Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line for
$179..

ann





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OT: Enablement - the new Monitor

[John Sessoms]

From: Ann Sanfedele


Got an HP S1933 display model at PC Richard for $92 with a 2 year
warranty. It is pretty much plug and play but a couple of little
annoyances which I'm hoping my friend Ted will help me resolve.
for one thing, as I type this, it doesnt goe all the way across the new
wide screen.  The good news is the aspect ratio is correct -
automatically picks up what is right.

It destroyed my display color settings... I kinda got them back but not
fully .

can't figure out how to adjust brightness and contrast with the buttons
on the monitor... the menu comes up and says what it is doesnt respond
to mouse.

Anyone got info about this?  As it was a display model I didnt get an
isntruction manual - I got the display monitor becaue someone bought the
display computer and didnt want the screen.  Just lucky that
I stopped by to see it - I had gone in to check out one that was on line
for $179..


Manuals for just about anything computer related are available as PDF 
files on-line now-a-days.


Here's what I found with a quick Google for HP S1933 Manual:

http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?lang=encc=uscontentType=SupportManualprodTypeId=382087prodSeriesId=4290107docIndexId=3124printver=true

That URL is so long I don't think it's going to wrap properly, so I made 
a custom TinyURL for you:


http://tinyurl.com/hp-S1933

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Re: OT: Enablement

[Larry Colen]

On Sep 10, 2012, at 10:03 PM, Walt wrote:

 Sorry to disappoint, Joe. I just got the most I could for under $400 and 
 didn't have a lot of freedom beyond that amount.

If you were geeky enough, you could always turn it into a hackintosh.  
 
 -- Walt
 
 On 9/9/2012 11:49 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 Sorry about the missed trip Walt. Even more sorry you did not take the 
 opportunity to switch over to the the bright side.
 
 On Sep 9, 2012, at 19:53 , Walt Gilbert wrote:
 
 So, as it turns out, my trip to South Dakota has been canceled due to 
 unexpected family events relating to my niece and her daughter that will 
 prevent us from traveling. Consequently, all the money I'd saved up has 
 been freed to put toward another use. Having weighed my priorities with 
 regard to my future in photography, it occurred to me that my greatest need 
 at the moment was to get something approaching a modern computer.
 
 So, I went out and plunked down some cash for an Acer Aspire:
 
 AMD dual-core E-450
 17.3 HD+ LED LCD display
 AMD Radeon HD 6320
 4 GB DDR3
 500 GB HDD
 DVD-Super Multi DL
 
 It's Windows 7, of course -- which experience has taught me to hate 
 compared to XP, but waddaygonnado. But, I figure I'm going to need it soon, 
 as my desktop is /extremely/ old and starting to have all the tell-tale 
 issues of a computer on its last legs.
 
 I thought about buying a new lens, but decided it would be pretty useless 
 to me if I didn't have an operable computer to work on my images with. So, 
 yeah -- I'm going to have to put off the trip to the Black Hills until 
 spring, but at least I'll have something reliable to work with in the 
 interim.

It is usually best to improve the weakest link in the system, and it sounds 
like that was your computer. 

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OT: Enablement

[Walt Gilbert]

So, as it turns out, my trip to South Dakota has been canceled due to 
unexpected family events relating to my niece and her daughter that will 
prevent us from traveling. Consequently, all the money I'd saved up has 
been freed to put toward another use. Having weighed my priorities with 
regard to my future in photography, it occurred to me that my greatest 
need at the moment was to get something approaching a modern computer.


So, I went out and plunked down some cash for an Acer Aspire:

AMD dual-core E-450
17.3 HD+ LED LCD display
AMD Radeon HD 6320
4 GB DDR3
500 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL

It's Windows 7, of course -- which experience has taught me to hate 
compared to XP, but waddaygonnado. But, I figure I'm going to need it 
soon, as my desktop is /extremely/ old and starting to have all the 
tell-tale issues of a computer on its last legs.


I thought about buying a new lens, but decided it would be pretty 
useless to me if I didn't have an operable computer to work on my images 
with. So, yeah -- I'm going to have to put off the trip to the Black 
Hills until spring, but at least I'll have something reliable to work 
with in the interim.


-- Walt

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Re: OT: Enablement

[Joseph McAllister]

Sorry about the missed trip Walt. Even more sorry you did not take the 
opportunity to switch over to the the bright side.

On Sep 9, 2012, at 19:53 , Walt Gilbert wrote:

 So, as it turns out, my trip to South Dakota has been canceled due to 
 unexpected family events relating to my niece and her daughter that will 
 prevent us from traveling. Consequently, all the money I'd saved up has been 
 freed to put toward another use. Having weighed my priorities with regard to 
 my future in photography, it occurred to me that my greatest need at the 
 moment was to get something approaching a modern computer.
 
 So, I went out and plunked down some cash for an Acer Aspire:
 
 AMD dual-core E-450
 17.3 HD+ LED LCD display
 AMD Radeon HD 6320
 4 GB DDR3
 500 GB HDD
 DVD-Super Multi DL
 
 It's Windows 7, of course -- which experience has taught me to hate compared 
 to XP, but waddaygonnado. But, I figure I'm going to need it soon, as my 
 desktop is /extremely/ old and starting to have all the tell-tale issues of a 
 computer on its last legs.
 
 I thought about buying a new lens, but decided it would be pretty useless to 
 me if I didn't have an operable computer to work on my images with. So, yeah 
 -- I'm going to have to put off the trip to the Black Hills until spring, but 
 at least I'll have something reliable to work with in the interim.


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Re: OT: Enablement

[Walt]

Sorry to disappoint, Joe. I just got the most I could for under $400 and 
didn't have a lot of freedom beyond that amount.


-- Walt

On 9/9/2012 11:49 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

Sorry about the missed trip Walt. Even more sorry you did not take the 
opportunity to switch over to the the bright side.

On Sep 9, 2012, at 19:53 , Walt Gilbert wrote:


So, as it turns out, my trip to South Dakota has been canceled due to 
unexpected family events relating to my niece and her daughter that will 
prevent us from traveling. Consequently, all the money I'd saved up has been 
freed to put toward another use. Having weighed my priorities with regard to my 
future in photography, it occurred to me that my greatest need at the moment 
was to get something approaching a modern computer.

So, I went out and plunked down some cash for an Acer Aspire:

AMD dual-core E-450
17.3 HD+ LED LCD display
AMD Radeon HD 6320
4 GB DDR3
500 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL

It's Windows 7, of course -- which experience has taught me to hate compared to 
XP, but waddaygonnado. But, I figure I'm going to need it soon, as my desktop 
is /extremely/ old and starting to have all the tell-tale issues of a computer 
on its last legs.

I thought about buying a new lens, but decided it would be pretty useless to me 
if I didn't have an operable computer to work on my images with. So, yeah -- 
I'm going to have to put off the trip to the Black Hills until spring, but at 
least I'll have something reliable to work with in the interim.





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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Jan van Wijk]

Hi Walt,

Not sure if this particular question was answered already, I am a bit behind on 
my PDML messages, but anyway ...

On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:15:02 -0500 Walt Gilbert wrote:

Here's what the product info on the module states:

PRO2708 PROMASTER FTA 5000 AF TTL FL MODULE/PENTAX PROMASTER 5000 Series FTA 
modules allow for TTL, fully automatic, and manual 
operation* with auto focus SLR cameras. It also features an infrared focusing 
assist lamp to help you get sharp crisp pictures in low light. The FTA module 
works on ANY PROMASTER 5000 series flash including the 5750DX and 5550DX 
digital flashes. *Features are limited to those supported by your particular 
camera model. Pentax AF - Code # 2708 Pentax AF1/SFX, SF1N, SF10/SF7, etc.

Anybody know of any reason why this shouldn't work on my K20D? I'm having a 
hell of a time finding anything about the compatibility.

Well there was a big change in TTL/PTTL flash control when going to digital 
bodies with Pentax,
taking the flash control from an analog to a digital protocol as well. And 
while the first DSLRs
still could do both (IstD etc) the later ones only support the digital flash 
protocol (PTTL).

So that makes it quite likely that the module above, created for the filmbodies 
of the early 1990's
does analog TTL only, and can only work in manual or 'auto' where the flash 
measures itself.
(if the promaster has that capability)


That said, although I don't use flash that often anymore (K5), I often had more 
consistent
results with manual/auto flashes than with PTTL :-)

Regards, JvW


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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[jn289]

I do not know if anyone stated this before, but here goes, you should 
check the voltage of the flash as it may be too high for the digital 
bodies.If it is you still use it remotely.Joe



I managed to find the correct dedicated module for $18.99 shipped. 
The cheapest otherwise was $40.00 + shipping. I had enough in my 
PayPal account to get it, and since I don't have an external flash, 
I figure it's a good idea to go ahead and get the module.


Here's what the product info on the module states:

PRO2708 PROMASTER FTA 5000 AF TTL FL MODULE/PENTAX PROMASTER 5000 
Series FTA modules allow for TTL, fully automatic, and manual 
operation* with auto focus SLR cameras. It also features an 
infrared focusing assist lamp to help you get sharp crisp pictures 
in low light. The FTA module works on ANY PROMASTER 5000 series 
flash including the 5750DX and 5550DX digital flashes. *Features 
are limited to those supported by your particular camera model. 
Pentax AF - Code # 2708 Pentax AF1/SFX, SF1N, SF10/SF7, etc.


Anybody know of any reason why this shouldn't work on my K20D? I'm 
having a hell of a time finding anything about the compatibility.


-- Walt

On 4/9/2012 8:55 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

Hum, it seems I was incorrect, never having seen a Maxxum 7000, the
first alpha mount Minolta I handled was a 7000i which had the new
flash shoe as well as the new lens mount.  Sorry about the incorrect
information.

On 4/9/12, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 4/9/2012 7:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com:


Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot
shoe. When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the
electronic contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the
contacts on the camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it
looks like they do line up after all.

As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only
documentation that came with it is repair and service receipts for
the camera. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.

Thanks for the heads-up!


According to this page:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.


Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera :-)

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html




Thanks, Brian!

Yeah, that looks safely within the voltage range of the K20D. I guess
the issue at this point is getting the correct dedicated module for it.
I've found a little info on that and so far the cheapest I've been able
to find is $40.

Gonna have to do some cogitatin' on this.

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:


Alas, it appears the flash does have a proprietary foot on it. Dammit.


That's odd.  The Minolta 7000 had a standard hot shoe.  The  
proprietary shoe was introduced later (with the 7000i, If I recall  
correctly).  It seems odd that the flash you were given would have a  
shoe that doesn't match the accompanying camera.


If the flash has the Minolta proprietary shoe, it is possible to get  
cheap adapters on EBay that will convert it to a standard shoe mount.   
However, before you connect it to your DSLR, you should check that the  
trigger voltage isn't too high.  You wouldn't want to fry the  
circuitry in your new K20D.


The camera probably would cost more than it's worth to repair but it  
is a landmark.  It was the first truly workable autofocus SLR.   
Pentax's ME-F came earlier but its 35-70 AF lens could not really be  
described as workable.




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Welp! So much for that!

-- Walt

On 4/8/2012 9:42 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The lenses are in greater demand than the camera body, it's less  
expensive to find a working camera than to have the Maxim fixed.   
The Minolta 50 is supposed to be very nice, I know they old Minolta  
50's in MC and MD mount were.  The Sigma I have no idea but its  
from the era when Sigma was known for Sig[nificant] Ma[lfunctions],  
there used to be a web site dedicated to Sigma horror stories but  
that's long gone now.  Lastly doesn't that flash have a  
propitiatory, (Minolta/Sony) foot? I would think it would if it was  
used with a Minolta Maxxum.


On 4/8/2012 10:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

So, last night a friend of mine from the local Fraternal Order of  
Eagles aerie, where I was taking pictures of kids having fun and  
hunting for Easter eggs, walked up and handed me a Minolta Maxxum  
7000 with a Minolta AF 50/1.7 and a Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5 along  
with a Promaster 5200 flash unit, a few filters and a couple of  
rolls of Fuji Superia X-tra -- for nothing.


The camera body doesn't appear to work -- at least not with the  
Kodak rechargeable AAA's I put in it. But the flash does (which is  
great because I haven't had a flash 'til now) and the lenses both  
appear to be in excellent condition. So now, I just wonder what I  
ought to do with the camera and lenses given the fact that you  
apparently can't adapt them to a K-mount.


Any thoughts?

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

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Also, the flash may work perfectly well in a manual slave mode, or even just 
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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot shoe. 
When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the electronic 
contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the contacts on the 
camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it looks like they do 
line up after all.


As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only documentation 
that came with it is repair and service receipts for the camera. I'll 
have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.


Thanks for the heads-up!

-- Walt

On 4/9/2012 2:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:


Alas, it appears the flash does have a proprietary foot on it. Dammit.


That's odd.  The Minolta 7000 had a standard hot shoe.  The 
proprietary shoe was introduced later (with the 7000i, If I recall 
correctly).  It seems odd that the flash you were given would have a 
shoe that doesn't match the accompanying camera.


If the flash has the Minolta proprietary shoe, it is possible to get 
cheap adapters on EBay that will convert it to a standard shoe mount.  
However, before you connect it to your DSLR, you should check that the 
trigger voltage isn't too high.  You wouldn't want to fry the 
circuitry in your new K20D.


The camera probably would cost more than it's worth to repair but it 
is a landmark.  It was the first truly workable autofocus SLR.  
Pentax's ME-F came earlier but its 35-70 AF lens could not really be 
described as workable.




Cheers

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Welp! So much for that!

-- Walt

On 4/8/2012 9:42 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The lenses are in greater demand than the camera body, it's less 
expensive to find a working camera than to have the Maxim fixed.  
The Minolta 50 is supposed to be very nice, I know they old Minolta 
50's in MC and MD mount were.  The Sigma I have no idea but its from 
the era when Sigma was known for Sig[nificant] Ma[lfunctions], there 
used to be a web site dedicated to Sigma horror stories but that's 
long gone now.  Lastly doesn't that flash have a propitiatory, 
(Minolta/Sony) foot? I would think it would if it was used with a 
Minolta Maxxum.


On 4/8/2012 10:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

So, last night a friend of mine from the local Fraternal Order of 
Eagles aerie, where I was taking pictures of kids having fun and 
hunting for Easter eggs, walked up and handed me a Minolta Maxxum 
7000 with a Minolta AF 50/1.7 and a Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5 along 
with a Promaster 5200 flash unit, a few filters and a couple of 
rolls of Fuji Superia X-tra -- for nothing.


The camera body doesn't appear to work -- at least not with the 
Kodak rechargeable AAA's I put in it. But the flash does (which is 
great because I haven't had a flash 'til now) and the lenses both 
appear to be in excellent condition. So now, I just wonder what I 
ought to do with the camera and lenses given the fact that you 
apparently can't adapt them to a K-mount.


Any thoughts?

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

It seems the flash requires a dedicated module according to the brand of 
camera it's used on. So, while it does actually fit the regular hot 
shoe, apparently it won't communicate with the camera unless I have the 
PX module rather than the ML that's on it. And I'm not sure how to go 
about using it as a slave flash -- something I'll have to do some 
reading up on.


-- Walt

On 4/9/2012 3:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Also, the flash may work perfectly well in a manual slave mode, or even just 
triggered with a cable off the pc jack.

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:

Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot  
shoe. When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the  
electronic contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the  
contacts on the camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it  
looks like they do line up after all.


As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only  
documentation that came with it is repair and service receipts for  
the camera. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.


Thanks for the heads-up!



According to this page:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.


Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera :-)

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html


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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

On 4/9/2012 7:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:

Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot 
shoe. When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the 
electronic contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the 
contacts on the camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it 
looks like they do line up after all.


As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only 
documentation that came with it is repair and service receipts for 
the camera. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.


Thanks for the heads-up!



According to this page:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.


Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera :-)

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html 





Thanks, Brian!

Yeah, that looks safely within the voltage range of the K20D. I guess 
the issue at this point is getting the correct dedicated module for it. 
I've found a little info on that and so far the cheapest I've been able 
to find is $40.


Gonna have to do some cogitatin' on this.

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[p. j. alling]

Hum, it seems I was incorrect, never having seen a Maxxum 7000, the
first alpha mount Minolta I handled was a 7000i which had the new
flash shoe as well as the new lens mount.  Sorry about the incorrect
information.

On 4/9/12, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/9/2012 7:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
 Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:

 Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot
 shoe. When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the
 electronic contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the
 contacts on the camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it
 looks like they do line up after all.

 As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only
 documentation that came with it is repair and service receipts for
 the camera. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.

 Thanks for the heads-up!


 According to this page:

 http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

 the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.


 Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera :-)

 http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html




 Thanks, Brian!

 Yeah, that looks safely within the voltage range of the K20D. I guess
 the issue at this point is getting the correct dedicated module for it.
 I've found a little info on that and so far the cheapest I've been able
 to find is $40.

 Gonna have to do some cogitatin' on this.

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

That's quite alright. I think I may have found the correct AF module on 
the (very) cheap from Mike's Camera.


I'm waiting to hear back from them via email as I type.

-- Walt

On 4/9/2012 8:55 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

Hum, it seems I was incorrect, never having seen a Maxxum 7000, the
first alpha mount Minolta I handled was a 7000i which had the new
flash shoe as well as the new lens mount.  Sorry about the incorrect
information.

On 4/9/12, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 4/9/2012 7:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com:


Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot
shoe. When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the
electronic contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the
contacts on the camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it
looks like they do line up after all.

As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only
documentation that came with it is repair and service receipts for
the camera. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.

Thanks for the heads-up!


According to this page:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.


Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera :-)

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html





Thanks, Brian!

Yeah, that looks safely within the voltage range of the K20D. I guess
the issue at this point is getting the correct dedicated module for it.
I've found a little info on that and so far the cheapest I've been able
to find is $40.

Gonna have to do some cogitatin' on this.

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

I managed to find the correct dedicated module for $18.99 shipped. The 
cheapest otherwise was $40.00 + shipping. I had enough in my PayPal 
account to get it, and since I don't have an external flash, I figure 
it's a good idea to go ahead and get the module.


Here's what the product info on the module states:

PRO2708 PROMASTER FTA 5000 AF TTL FL MODULE/PENTAX PROMASTER 5000 
Series FTA modules allow for TTL, fully automatic, and manual 
operation* with auto focus SLR cameras. It also features an infrared 
focusing assist lamp to help you get sharp crisp pictures in low 
light. The FTA module works on ANY PROMASTER 5000 series flash 
including the 5750DX and 5550DX digital flashes. *Features are limited 
to those supported by your particular camera model. Pentax AF - Code # 
2708 Pentax AF1/SFX, SF1N, SF10/SF7, etc.


Anybody know of any reason why this shouldn't work on my K20D? I'm 
having a hell of a time finding anything about the compatibility.


-- Walt

On 4/9/2012 8:55 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

Hum, it seems I was incorrect, never having seen a Maxxum 7000, the
first alpha mount Minolta I handled was a 7000i which had the new
flash shoe as well as the new lens mount.  Sorry about the incorrect
information.

On 4/9/12, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 4/9/2012 7:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com:


Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot
shoe. When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the
electronic contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the
contacts on the camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it
looks like they do line up after all.

As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only
documentation that came with it is repair and service receipts for
the camera. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.

Thanks for the heads-up!


According to this page:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.


Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera :-)

http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html





Thanks, Brian!

Yeah, that looks safely within the voltage range of the K20D. I guess
the issue at this point is getting the correct dedicated module for it.
I've found a little info on that and so far the cheapest I've been able
to find is $40.

Gonna have to do some cogitatin' on this.

-- Walt

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[John Sessoms]

From: Walt Gilbert


Alas, it appears the flash does have a proprietary foot on it. Dammit.

Welp! So much for that!

-- Walt


There are reasonably inexpensive adapters to fit that flash to a regular 
hot-shoe.


http://www.meritline.com/sony-sc-6-flash-hot-shoe-adapter---p-39231.aspx


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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Larry Colen]

I have a couple of promaster flashes, they work fine.

When I killed the pentax module of one, I picked up another off ebay reasonably 
inexpensively.


On Apr 9, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

 On 4/9/2012 7:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
 Quoting Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com:
 
 Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot shoe. 
 When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the electronic 
 contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the contacts on the 
 camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it looks like they do line 
 up after all.
 
 As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only documentation 
 that came with it is repair and service receipts for the camera. I'll have 
 to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.
 
 Thanks for the heads-up!
 
 
 According to this page:
 
 http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html
 
 the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.
 
 
 Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera :-)
 
 http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html
  
 
 
 Thanks, Brian!
 
 Yeah, that looks safely within the voltage range of the K20D. I guess the 
 issue at this point is getting the correct dedicated module for it. I've 
 found a little info on that and so far the cheapest I've been able to find is 
 $40.
 
 Gonna have to do some cogitatin' on this.
 
 -- Walt
 
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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[P. J. Alling]

You should be able to use it as a manual flash even if you don't get the 
dedicated module.  You'll learn more about flash photography that way to 
boot.  To you it as a slave you have to get some kind of remote trigger, 
the least expensive would be an optical slave, Wein peanuts are 
available for less than $10 and are very reliable.  They may not work 
properly with your flash, I believe you need either a Male PC connector 
or the propitiatory Vivitar, (some use the intermediate audio plug and 
that won't work). plug.  There are others that attach directly to the 
hot foot on the flash, and are often less expensive than the Wein.  Be 
careful when you purchase an optical slave, you don't always get what 
you pay for, but with cheap camera accessories especially flash 
accessories you can pay a lot more for a fancy looking piece of crappy 
equipment that doesn't work reliably, while a much better yet simpler 
option may even sell for less.


On 4/9/2012 8:40 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
It seems the flash requires a dedicated module according to the brand 
of camera it's used on. So, while it does actually fit the regular hot 
shoe, apparently it won't communicate with the camera unless I have 
the PX module rather than the ML that's on it. And I'm not sure how to 
go about using it as a slave flash -- something I'll have to do some 
reading up on.


-- Walt

On 4/9/2012 3:46 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
Also, the flash may work perfectly well in a manual slave mode, or 
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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[John Sessoms]

From: Walt Gilbert


Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot shoe.
When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the electronic
contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the contacts on the
camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it looks like they do
line up after all.

As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only documentation
that came with it is repair and service receipts for the camera. I'll
have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.

Thanks for the heads-up!


Handy-dandy strobe trigger voltage reference:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

Promaster FTD 5200 lists at 4-5V

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[P. J. Alling]

On 4/9/2012 12:15 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
I managed to find the correct dedicated module for $18.99 shipped. The 
cheapest otherwise was $40.00 + shipping. I had enough in my PayPal 
account to get it, and since I don't have an external flash, I figure 
it's a good idea to go ahead and get the module.


Here's what the product info on the module states:

PRO2708 PROMASTER FTA 5000 AF TTL FL MODULE/PENTAX PROMASTER 5000 
Series FTA modules allow for TTL, fully automatic, and manual 
operation* with auto focus SLR cameras. It also features an infrared 
focusing assist lamp to help you get sharp crisp pictures in low 
light. The FTA module works on ANY PROMASTER 5000 series flash 
including the 5750DX and 5550DX digital flashes. *Features are 
limited to those supported by your particular camera model. Pentax AF 
- Code # 2708 Pentax AF1/SFX, SF1N, SF10/SF7, etc.


Anybody know of any reason why this shouldn't work on my K20D? I'm 
having a hell of a time finding anything about the compatibility.


-- Walt

On 4/9/2012 8:55 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

Hum, it seems I was incorrect, never having seen a Maxxum 7000, the
first alpha mount Minolta I handled was a 7000i which had the new
flash shoe as well as the new lens mount.  Sorry about the incorrect
information.

On 4/9/12, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com  wrote:

On 4/9/2012 7:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com:


Actually, after looking again, it does appear to be a standard hot
shoe. When I first looked at it before, it appeared that one of the
electronic contacts on the flash was off-set a little more than the
contacts on the camera hot shoe. But, after looking at it again, it
looks like they do line up after all.

As for the discharge voltage, that I don't know. The only
documentation that came with it is repair and service receipts for
the camera. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere on the web.

Thanks for the heads-up!


According to this page:

http://www.botzilla.com/photo/strobeVolts.html

the Promaster has a trigger voltage of 4-5 volts.


Based on this discussion, that's probably OK - but it's your camera 
:-)


http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-flashes-lighting-technique/87679-flash-trigger-voltage-pentax-official-answer.html 







Thanks, Brian!

Yeah, that looks safely within the voltage range of the K20D. I guess
the issue at this point is getting the correct dedicated module for it.
I've found a little info on that and so far the cheapest I've been able
to find is $40.

Gonna have to do some cogitatin' on this.
It says it's TTL not P-TTL.  If that's true and it doesn't support 
P-TTL, unless it has a built in sensor or some sort of manual control 
you'll get full power on automatic, or full power on manual.  In that 
case you might just as well use it with the Minolta foot as a fully 
manual flash.




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OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

Hi all,

So, last night a friend of mine from the local Fraternal Order of Eagles 
aerie, where I was taking pictures of kids having fun and hunting for 
Easter eggs, walked up and handed me a Minolta Maxxum 7000 with a 
Minolta AF 50/1.7 and a Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5 along with a Promaster 
5200 flash unit, a few filters and a couple of rolls of Fuji Superia 
X-tra -- for nothing.


The camera body doesn't appear to work -- at least not with the Kodak 
rechargeable AAA's I put in it. But the flash does (which is great 
because I haven't had a flash 'til now) and the lenses both appear to be 
in excellent condition. So now, I just wonder what I ought to do with 
the camera and lenses given the fact that you apparently can't adapt 
them to a K-mount.


Any thoughts?

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 So, last night a friend of mine from the local Fraternal Order of Eagles 
 aerie, where I was taking pictures of kids having fun and hunting for Easter 
 eggs, walked up and handed me a Minolta Maxxum 7000 with a Minolta AF 50/1.7 
 and a Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5 along with a Promaster 5200 flash unit, a few 
 filters and a couple of rolls of Fuji Superia X-tra -- for nothing.
 
 The camera body doesn't appear to work -- at least not with the Kodak 
 rechargeable AAA's I put in it. But the flash does (which is great because I 
 haven't had a flash 'til now) and the lenses both appear to be in excellent 
 condition. So now, I just wonder what I ought to do with the camera and 
 lenses given the fact that you apparently can't adapt them to a K-mount.
 
 Any thoughts?

I think that Mark has a camera that'll use those lenses.  You could give Mark 
those lenses, or you could buy a full frame Sony, to make use of them yourself. 
 Just think of all the money you'd be saving by already having the glass.




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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

 On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 So, last night a friend of mine from the local Fraternal Order of Eagles 
 aerie, where I was taking pictures of kids having fun and hunting for Easter 
 eggs, walked up and handed me a Minolta Maxxum 7000 with a Minolta AF 50/1.7 
 and a Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5 along with a Promaster 5200 flash unit, a few 
 filters and a couple of rolls of Fuji Superia X-tra -- for nothing.
 
 The camera body doesn't appear to work -- at least not with the Kodak 
 rechargeable AAA's I put in it. But the flash does (which is great because I 
 haven't had a flash 'til now) and the lenses both appear to be in excellent 
 condition. So now, I just wonder what I ought to do with the camera and 
 lenses given the fact that you apparently can't adapt them to a K-mount.
 
 Any thoughts?

I think that Mark has a camera that'll use those lenses. 

It's true! Probably the flash, too, if it uses that goofy proprietary
Minolta flash shoe.
 
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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Darren Addy]

Not so fast on the Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5. Google it and you'll find
lots of reports of a compatability issue with at least some Sony
models.

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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Larry Colen]

On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 I think that Mark has a camera that'll use those lenses. 
 
 It's true! Probably the flash, too, if it uses that goofy proprietary
 Minolta flash shoe.

I bet that if you give them to Mark, he won't make up any embarrassing and 
incriminating quotations by you for next years quote file.


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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[P. J. Alling]

The lenses are in greater demand than the camera body, it's less 
expensive to find a working camera than to have the Maxim fixed.  The 
Minolta 50 is supposed to be very nice, I know they old Minolta 50's in 
MC and MD mount were.  The Sigma I have no idea but its from the era 
when Sigma was known for Sig[nificant] Ma[lfunctions], there used to be 
a web site dedicated to Sigma horror stories but that's long gone now.  
Lastly doesn't that flash have a propitiatory, (Minolta/Sony) foot? I 
would think it would if it was used with a Minolta Maxxum.


On 4/8/2012 10:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

So, last night a friend of mine from the local Fraternal Order of 
Eagles aerie, where I was taking pictures of kids having fun and 
hunting for Easter eggs, walked up and handed me a Minolta Maxxum 7000 
with a Minolta AF 50/1.7 and a Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5 along with a 
Promaster 5200 flash unit, a few filters and a couple of rolls of Fuji 
Superia X-tra -- for nothing.


The camera body doesn't appear to work -- at least not with the Kodak 
rechargeable AAA's I put in it. But the flash does (which is great 
because I haven't had a flash 'til now) and the lenses both appear to 
be in excellent condition. So now, I just wonder what I ought to do 
with the camera and lenses given the fact that you apparently can't 
adapt them to a K-mount.


Any thoughts?

-- Walt




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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

On 4/8/2012 9:38 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:36 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Larry Colen wrote:


On Apr 8, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Any thoughts?

I think that Mark has a camera that'll use those lenses.

It's true! Probably the flash, too, if it uses that goofy proprietary
Minolta flash shoe.

I bet that if you give them to Mark, he won't make up any embarrassing and 
incriminating quotations by you for next years quote file.


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Ha! That's pretty tough to resist!

I could probably do that, but it may take just a little while to get it 
in the mail. Tips were /extremely/ meager this week, so I may not even 
have enough cash to pay for the shipping. Maybe I can get it out 
sometime in the next couple of weeks, but I'm seriously scraping by at 
the moment.


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Re: OT: Enablement (Minolta Maxxum)

[Walt Gilbert]

Alas, it appears the flash does have a proprietary foot on it. Dammit.

Welp! So much for that!

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On 4/8/2012 9:42 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
The lenses are in greater demand than the camera body, it's less 
expensive to find a working camera than to have the Maxim fixed.  The 
Minolta 50 is supposed to be very nice, I know they old Minolta 50's 
in MC and MD mount were.  The Sigma I have no idea but its from the 
era when Sigma was known for Sig[nificant] Ma[lfunctions], there used 
to be a web site dedicated to Sigma horror stories but that's long 
gone now.  Lastly doesn't that flash have a propitiatory, 
(Minolta/Sony) foot? I would think it would if it was used with a 
Minolta Maxxum.


On 4/8/2012 10:29 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

So, last night a friend of mine from the local Fraternal Order of 
Eagles aerie, where I was taking pictures of kids having fun and 
hunting for Easter eggs, walked up and handed me a Minolta Maxxum 
7000 with a Minolta AF 50/1.7 and a Sigma 75-200 f/2.8-3.5 along with 
a Promaster 5200 flash unit, a few filters and a couple of rolls of 
Fuji Superia X-tra -- for nothing.


The camera body doesn't appear to work -- at least not with the Kodak 
rechargeable AAA's I put in it. But the flash does (which is great 
because I haven't had a flash 'til now) and the lenses both appear to 
be in excellent condition. So now, I just wonder what I ought to do 
with the camera and lenses given the fact that you apparently can't 
adapt them to a K-mount.


Any thoughts?

-- Walt







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Re: OT Enablement

[mike wilson]

On 28/06/2011 03:35, Brian Walters wrote:

G;'day all

Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg


Whilst on a course at the ancient city of Eboracum this week, I happened 
upon a market trader whose stall consisted entirely of film camera 
stock.  He had two Oly manual adaptors as well as numerous lenses and a 
couple of bodies.  There was a solitary Program A and a Winder II ME. 
He reckoned that there was a reasonably brisk trade in such things - 
certainly enough to keep him in business.


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Re: OT Enablement

[William Robb]

On 27/06/2011 11:54 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


Interestingly, that camera originally came to me with a Tokina 35-105
zoom which redefines the terms 'heavy' and 'bulky'.  It weighs in at
about 850 grams and, with it mounted, the camera/lens combination
certainly doesn't qualify for the 'small' tag.


I had one of those. It was the first zoom lens I ever bought, and the 
first zoom lens to turn me off to the entire concept of zoom lenses, and 
started a loathing for the things that I carry to this day.


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Re: OT Enablement

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 00:05 -0600, William Robb
anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27/06/2011 11:54 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
 
  Interestingly, that camera originally came to me with a Tokina 35-105
  zoom which redefines the terms 'heavy' and 'bulky'.  It weighs in at
  about 850 grams and, with it mounted, the camera/lens combination
  certainly doesn't qualify for the 'small' tag.
 
 I had one of those. It was the first zoom lens I ever bought, and the 
 first zoom lens to turn me off to the entire concept of zoom lenses, and 
 started a loathing for the things that I carry to this day.



I actually have two of them now.  A previous donation from my
brother-in-law was a Spotmatic II fitted with the M42 version.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT Enablement

[drd1135]

Sometimes a zoom is just a zoom. 
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On 27/06/2011 11:54 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Interestingly, that camera originally came to me with a Tokina 35-105
 zoom which redefines the terms 'heavy' and 'bulky'.  It weighs in at
 about 850 grams and, with it mounted, the camera/lens combination
 certainly doesn't qualify for the 'small' tag.

I had one of those. It was the first zoom lens I ever bought, and the 
first zoom lens to turn me off to the entire concept of zoom lenses, and 
started a loathing for the things that I carry to this day.

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Re: OT Enablement

[Larry Colen]

On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 G;'day all
 
 Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
 his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg

Very cool.  When they came out, I was very intrigued by the thought of a camera 
much smaller and lighter than my SRT-101.

I've got a friend with an OM-1.  Are there any DSLRs that can use the lenses?  
Or do they only work with the micro 4/3 and a fotodiox adapter?

She has two lenses, a 50/1.4 and a (IIRC) Vivitar 24/2.8, so it's probably not 
worth too much effort trying to find a body to use the lenses with.



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Re: OT Enablement

[William Robb]

On 28/06/2011 12:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



She has two lenses, a 50/1.4 and a (IIRC) Vivitar 24/2.8, so it's probably not 
worth too much effort trying to find a body to use the lenses with.


The Oly-OM 50/1.4 is an awesome lens.

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Re: OT Enablement

[P. J. Alling]

43 system and m43 system cameras with adapters are the only ones I know 
of.  I read somewhere that most classic OM system lenses were uncoated, 
but I highly doubt that, most were probably single or double coated.  
They preform rather well, flare wise, for optics with minimal coatings.


On 6/28/2011 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


G;'day all

Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg

Very cool.  When they came out, I was very intrigued by the thought of a camera 
much smaller and lighter than my SRT-101.

I've got a friend with an OM-1.  Are there any DSLRs that can use the lenses?  
Or do they only work with the micro 4/3 and a fotodiox adapter?

She has two lenses, a 50/1.4 and a (IIRC) Vivitar 24/2.8, so it's probably not 
worth too much effort trying to find a body to use the lenses with.



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Re: OT Enablement

[Paul Dunderdale]

They will also work on the Sony Nex system with the appropriate adapters: APS-C 
sensor in the Sony.

Paul


On 28 Jun 2011, at 21:07, P. J. Alling wrote:

 43 system and m43 system cameras with adapters are the only ones I know of.  
 I read somewhere that most classic OM system lenses were uncoated, but I 
 highly doubt that, most were probably single or double coated.  They preform 
 rather well, flare wise, for optics with minimal coatings.
 
 On 6/28/2011 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
 
 G;'day all
 
 Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
 his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg
 Very cool.  When they came out, I was very intrigued by the thought of a 
 camera much smaller and lighter than my SRT-101.
 
 I've got a friend with an OM-1.  Are there any DSLRs that can use the 
 lenses?  Or do they only work with the micro 4/3 and a fotodiox adapter?
 
 She has two lenses, a 50/1.4 and a (IIRC) Vivitar 24/2.8, so it's probably 
 not worth too much effort trying to find a body to use the lenses with.
 
 
 
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Re: OT Enablement

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:07 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 43 system and m43 system cameras with adapters are the only ones I know of.
  I read somewhere that most classic OM system lenses were uncoated, but I
 highly doubt that, most were probably single or double coated.  They preform
 rather well, flare wise, for optics with minimal coatings.

Olympus OM system lenses are easily adapted to Olympus and Panasonic
FourThirds, Olympus and Panasonic Micro-FourThirds, Sony NEX, and
Canon EOS lens mounts. They work well on everything from FourThirds
format to full frame. The Olympus Pen F system lenses from the 1960s
were mostly single coated, but OM System (first introduced in the
1972-1973 time period) were almost all multicoated optics like most
SLR lenses post 1970 or so. Some of the OM lenses are highly sought
after and carry big price tags even today, like the 21mm f/2.

I had a kit of Olympus OM equipment for a period of time circa 1975 to
1977. Olympus lenses were always very high quality and the OM-1n and
OM-2 were very compact and nicely made.
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Re: OT Enablement

[drd1135]

The E5 is four thirds and should work.  I thought Godfrey had one of these. 
Also, my BlackBerry wants to change Godfrey to Cadaver. 
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43 system and m43 system cameras with adapters are the only ones I know 
of.  I read somewhere that most classic OM system lenses were uncoated, 
but I highly doubt that, most were probably single or double coated.  
They preform rather well, flare wise, for optics with minimal coatings.

On 6/28/2011 2:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 G;'day all

 Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
 his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg
 Very cool.  When they came out, I was very intrigued by the thought of a 
 camera much smaller and lighter than my SRT-101.

 I've got a friend with an OM-1.  Are there any DSLRs that can use the lenses? 
  Or do they only work with the micro 4/3 and a fotodiox adapter?

 She has two lenses, a 50/1.4 and a (IIRC) Vivitar 24/2.8, so it's probably 
 not worth too much effort trying to find a body to use the lenses with.



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Re: OT Enablement

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:29 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi
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 On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:07 PM, P. J. Alling
 webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
  43 system and m43 system cameras with adapters are the only ones I know of.
   I read somewhere that most classic OM system lenses were uncoated, but I
  highly doubt that, most were probably single or double coated.  They preform
  rather well, flare wise, for optics with minimal coatings.
 
 Olympus OM system lenses are easily adapted to Olympus and Panasonic
 FourThirds, Olympus and Panasonic Micro-FourThirds, Sony NEX, and
 Canon EOS lens mounts. They work well on everything from FourThirds
 format to full frame. The Olympus Pen F system lenses from the 1960s
 were mostly single coated, but OM System (first introduced in the
 1972-1973 time period) were almost all multicoated optics like most
 SLR lenses post 1970 or so. Some of the OM lenses are highly sought
 after and carry big price tags even today, like the 21mm f/2.



One of the reasons something like the Olympus E-PL2 is on my 'next
camera' radar is that I'd like to be able to use some of the legacy
lenses that I have hanging around.  I have several Konica Hexanons and a
Minolta or two that would be nice to bring out of retirement.  I even
have a couple of primes from the original Canonflex that might just work
with a FD adapter.


Cheers

Brian

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OT Enablement

[Brian Walters]

G;'day all

Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg




Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT Enablement

[Rob Studdert]

On 28 June 2011 11:35, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G;'day all

 Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
 his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg

Very nice, I have an old OM 10 here, is a bit like the comparison of
an LX to a SuperProgram

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Re: OT Enablement

[Steven Desjardins]

Olympus always made such nice small cameras.

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G;'day all

 Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
 his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg




 Cheers

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Re: OT Enablement

[Brian Walters]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:52 -0400, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Olympus always made such nice small cameras.


Still do, in fact.

Interestingly, that camera originally came to me with a Tokina 35-105
zoom which redefines the terms 'heavy' and 'bulky'.  It weighs in at
about 850 grams and, with it mounted, the camera/lens combination
certainly doesn't qualify for the 'small' tag.

I thought the body deserved a standard lens so I picked up the 50/1.8
from a UK seller at a good price.



Cheers

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 On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
  G;'day all
 
  Knowing my interest in old cameras, my brother-in-law presented me with
  his old SLR.  I've always wanted to play with one of these:
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/_IGP0567om.jpg
 
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[P. J. Alling]

He will be someday, soon.

On 2/7/2011 5:05 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

That's a big dog.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com  wrote:

Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but chances are
they won't read this either...).

He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd reindeer,
hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its human family warm
during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about 23in tall and weigh up
to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg according to my web-based
real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale converter.

The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

Christian

-Original Message-
From: Ken Wallerkwal...@peoplepc.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


What Paul said.

What breed (s) is he?

Kenneth Waller
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From: Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind



Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
Paul

On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:


He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until

February

27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after

favorite

cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Bob Sullivan]

Steve,
Get a new converter program.
39.5 inches to the meter, 2.2 lbs to the kilogram.
23 inch dog is more like .5 meters, not 1.5 meters.
60 lbs is 27 kg, not 234 kg.
(I don't know about trusting chemestry profs.)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 12:05 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 He will be someday, soon.

 On 2/7/2011 5:05 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 That's a big dog.

 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Christianpterali...@aim.com  wrote:

 Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but chances
 are
 they won't read this either...).

 He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd
 reindeer,
 hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its human family
 warm
 during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about 23in tall and weigh
 up
 to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg according to my web-based
 real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale converter.

 The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

 Christian

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Wallerkwal...@peoplepc.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59 pm
 Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


 What Paul said.

 What breed (s) is he?

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


 Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
 Paul

 On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:

 He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until

 February

 27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after

 favorite

 cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Boris Liberman]

Congratulations. That little doggie should grow up to a whole lot of fun.

On 2/6/2011 5:58 PM, Christian wrote:

He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February
27th. We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after favorite
cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Christian]

He'll be a house dog but I'm going to train him to pull me on skis in 
winter Skijorning and a scooter in the summer Scootering.  Another 
interesting looking activity is bikejorning where the dog pulls while 
you ride a mountain bike.  Strangely enough the breed that does the 
best in Skijorning competition is German Shorthair Pointers, which was 
the last dog I had.


Based on his pedigree which is world-class and if I have the time, I 
might look at conformation but I really hate the politics and absurdity 
of dog shows.


Christian

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Wed, Feb 9, 2011 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


Is he going to be a house dog or will you make him work for a living - 
weight

pull, sled pull etc ?


-Original Message-

From: Christian pterali...@aim.com
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but 

chances

are they won't read this either...).

He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd
reindeer, hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its
human family warm during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to 

about

23in tall and weigh up to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg
according to my web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale
converter.

The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

Christian

-Original Message-
From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


What Paul said.

What breed (s) is he?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind



Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
Paul

On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:


He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until

February

27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after

favorite

cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[eckinator]

missed all your mails thus far but congrats and enjoy each other!

2011/2/9 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net:
 That is an extremely cute puppy.  Wow!  He'll be a fun subject to photograph
 for years to come!  Very pretty dog.  Cheers, Christine


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 Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 9:58 AM
 Subject: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


 He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February
 27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after favorite
 cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Kenneth Waller]

Is he going to be a house dog or will you make him work for a living - weight 
pull, sled pull etc ?


-Original Message-
From: Christian pterali...@aim.com
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but chances 
are they won't read this either...).

He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd 
reindeer, hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its 
human family warm during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about 
23in tall and weigh up to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg 
according to my web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale 
converter.

The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

Christian

-Original Message-
From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


What Paul said.

What breed (s) is he?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message -
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


 Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
 Paul

 On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:

 He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until 
February
 27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after 
favorite
 cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Christine Aguila]

That is an extremely cute puppy.  Wow!  He'll be a fun subject to photograph 
for years to come!  Very pretty dog.  Cheers, Christine



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To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Subject: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February 
27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after favorite 
cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).


http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is one cute puppy!  Congratulations.  (Nice pictures as well,)

Dan

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Christian pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February 27th.
  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after favorite cameras
 and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Christian]

Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but chances 
are they won't read this either...).


He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd 
reindeer, hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its 
human family warm during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about 
23in tall and weigh up to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg 
according to my web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale 
converter.


The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

Christian

-Original Message-
From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


What Paul said.

What breed (s) is he?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind



Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
Paul

On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:

He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until 

February
27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after 

favorite

cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[John Sessoms]

From: Christian

Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but chances
are they won't read this either...).

He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd
reindeer, hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its
human family warm during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about
23in tall and weigh up to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg
according to my web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale
converter.

The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

Christian


I think your web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale converter 
needs calibration.


I make it 58.42 cm (0.5842 m)  27.22 Kg


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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Steven Desjardins]

That's a big dog.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Christian pterali...@aim.com wrote:
 Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but chances are
 they won't read this either...).

 He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd reindeer,
 hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its human family warm
 during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about 23in tall and weigh up
 to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg according to my web-based
 real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale converter.

 The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.

 Christian

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59 pm
 Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


 What Paul said.

 What breed (s) is he?

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind


 Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
 Paul

 On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:

 He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until

 February

 27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after

 favorite

 cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).

 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 7, 2011, at 2:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Christian
 Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but chances
 are they won't read this either...).
 
 He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd
 reindeer, hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its
 human family warm during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about
 23in tall and weigh up to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg
 according to my web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale
 converter.
 
 The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.
 
 Christian
 
 I think your web-based real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale converter 
 needs calibration.
 
 I make it 58.42 cm (0.5842 m)  27.22 Kg

27 kg on the veterinarian's scale, 234 kg leaping on you with muddy feet after 
you've had a long day at work.
 

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RE: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Bob W]

it's a polar bear.

 
 That's a big dog.
 
 On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Christian pterali...@aim.com wrote:
  Thanks to everyone who replied (and even those that didn't; but
 chances are
  they won't read this either...).
 
  He's a Samoyed; a Nordic breed originally used to pull sleds, herd
 reindeer,
  hunt walruses and polar bears and  a companion to keep its human
 family warm
  during the cold Siberian winters.  Males get to about 23in tall and
 weigh up
  to 60lbs (that's like 1.5m tall and 234kg according to my web-based
  real-measurements-to-fancy-euro-scale converter.
 
  The whole family is very excited to bring him home in a few weeks.
 
  Christian
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Sent: Sun, Feb 6, 2011 1:59 pm
  Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind
 
 
  What Paul said.
 
  What breed (s) is he?
 
  Kenneth Waller
  http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
  Subject: Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind
 
 
  Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
  Paul
 
  On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:
 
  He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until
 
  February
 
  27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after
 
  favorite
 
  cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).
 
  http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html
 
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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Ann Sanfedele]

adorable...
Samoyeds are sweet.

ann

Christian wrote:

He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February 
27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after 
favorite cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is 
aLeX).


http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html





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OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Christian]

He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February 
27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after favorite 
cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).


http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Paul Stenquist]

Great looking pup! Lots of photo ops to come there.
Paul

On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:

 He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February 27th.  
 We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after favorite cameras and 
 to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).
 
 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html
 
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RE: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[Bob W]

 He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February
 27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after
 favorite
 cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is aLeX).
 
 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html

be careful - polar bears grow up to be quite a handful.

B


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Re: OT - Enablement of the fluffy kind

[P. J. Alling]

Aww.

On 2/6/2011 10:58 AM, Christian wrote:
He's only 4 weeks old so we don't get to bring him home until February 
27th.  We're naming him MaX in keeping with naming things after 
favorite cameras and to keep things on-topic (my daughter's name is 
aLeX).


http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-puppy-part-i.html




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