Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[Larry Colen]

Another weird thing about the camera I noticed on my hike is that if you're 
shooting in "non-silent" mode, it doesn't just make the shutter sound with a 
speaker, there's some haptic bump to the camera.  I guess if what you care 
about is whether it feels like a film camera that's nice, if however you care 
about image sharpness, then something that bumps the camera around while you're 
taking photos can't be good.


> On May 13, 2024, at 3:57 PM, supera1000  wrote:
> 
> I'd be interested in your opinion if you use the hand-held hi res mode.

I wasn't planning on it, but I'll try to give it a try. If I really care enough 
about image quality on a shot to do that, I'll use my K-1.  Although in 
retrospect, it might actually make a stop or two difference in noise/dynamic 
range.

> I'm more than happy with my EM-5ii but the OM-5 has several features that 
> interest me. I'm just not sure if the benefits make sense financially.

I was debating which to get and the impression I got (which is why I got the 
OM-5), is that if you don't have either, it's worth while buying the OM-5, but 
it's not worth trading in for.  Unless of course you want an excuse to get a 
new camera.  :-)


> 
> Cheers 
> Brian 
> 
> 
> On 14 May 2024 4:43:48 am AEST, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>> It seems that I'm not the only one, it may be that it works differently in 
>> video mode
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I did put another 500 frames on it yesterday on a hike in Malibu Creek Park. 
>>  I'm starting to get a bit more comfortable with it.  And it is a damn sight 
>> easier to carry than the k1. 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2024 1:30:24 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> Lar
>>> 
>>> I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in 
>>> conjunction with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is 
>>> excellent and one of the reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so 
>>> reasonably easy to replace if it goes wrong or gets damaged.
>>> 
>>> I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set 
>>> on permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus 
>>> on the OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.
>>> 
>>> Cot
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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[supera1000]

I'd be interested in your opinion if you use the hand-held hi res mode. I'm 
more than happy with my EM-5ii but the OM-5 has several features that interest 
me. I'm just not sure if the benefits make sense financially.

Cheers 
Brian 


On 14 May 2024 4:43:48 am AEST, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>It seems that I'm not the only one, it may be that it works differently in 
>video mode
>
>
>
>I did put another 500 frames on it yesterday on a hike in Malibu Creek Park.  
>I'm starting to get a bit more comfortable with it.  And it is a damn sight 
>easier to carry than the k1. 
>
>
>On May 12, 2024 1:30:24 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>Lar
>>
>>I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in conjunction 
>>with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is excellent and one of 
>>the reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so reasonably easy to 
>>replace if it goes wrong or gets damaged.
>>
>>I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set 
>>on permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus on 
>>the OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.
>>
>>Cot
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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[lrc]

It seems that I'm not the only one, it may be that it works differently in 
video mode



I did put another 500 frames on it yesterday on a hike in Malibu Creek Park.  
I'm starting to get a bit more comfortable with it.  And it is a damn sight 
easier to carry than the k1. 


On May 12, 2024 1:30:24 PM PDT, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>Lar
>
>I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in conjunction 
>with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is excellent and one of 
>the reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so reasonably easy to 
>replace if it goes wrong or gets damaged.
>
>I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set on 
>permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus on the 
>OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.
>
>Cot
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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[Steve Cottrell]

Lar

I use an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark II as a video camera (only) but in conjunction 
with a very bright Fotga external monitor. The IBIS is excellent and one of the 
reason I got it. That and it was pretty cheap so reasonably easy to replace if 
it goes wrong or gets damaged.

I use it on conjunction with manual lenses and I have the focus peaking set on 
permanently. Maybe your still focus peaking can be enabled in the menus on the 
OM5 somewhere? It’s essential for my eyes.

Cot
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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[Larry Colen]

> On May 11, 2024, at 10:32 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 04:50:59PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
>> After the weight of my new (13 months) K3III in my handlebar bag caused my 
>> bike to fall over and but the Smart Function knob, I looked into OM-5s 
>> again.  The price had dropped below my pain point, and since thanks to 
>> online shopping there aren???t any convenient camera stores to look at them, 
>> I bought on on Amazon, and if I don???t like it I???ll feel no guilt over 
>> returning it.
>> 
>> My one word review:
>> Adequate
> 
> Hmm.
> 
> I was considering getting an OM-5 as a backup/lighter alternative;
> I still feel nervous going anywhere with only a single camera body,
> even though I'v never yet had a digital camera body fail on me
> (and, in 50 years, only had two mechanical failures; once when my
> MX motor drive bent a drive shaft in my MX, and once when my PZ-1p
> objected to being used in rain, and took some time off to dry out.
> I don't count my MZ-S objecting to having its lens mount knocked
> off when I slipped climbing down from a photo tower and banged it
> hard against an upright - that was entirely my own fault).
> 
> I suspect 'adequate' might still serve my purpose, although I will
> admit that I was verging towards the slightly newer OM-D E-M5 Mk III.

If you like the OM-1, then I suspect the OM-5 would be just fine for you.  I 
also suspect that a lot of things that take the shine off for me aren’t things 
that come up for you as often.  My shooting needs are generally very different 
from yours.  If you don’t do a lot of bracketing of raw files, then my 
complaints there are totally irrelevant, and even so may not be something that 
bothers you.  

> 
> I'll be interested to see how you feel about it after a week or two.

This afternoon/evening we bopped by the Getty to play with cameras.  As things 
got darker I ended up needing to lean on the ISO a bit harder, it’ll be 
interesting to see how the images turn out.  On a quick look on my laptop, they 
seem to be usable at 6400.  


I was shooting with the 25/0.95 I bought from Boris and focus peaking went away 
in Manual Focus mode.  I put one of the autofocus lenses on, and focus peaking 
worked fine.  So, for some reason, manual focus assist does not work on manual 
focus only lenses.  

As we were leaving, I saw someone else waiting for the tram with a small retro 
looking camera, thinking that it might be another Oly I took a closer look, it 
was a Pentax MX!  I did tell him about PDML, he found the camera in his dad’s 
attic and is interested in learning more about photography in general and the 
camera in particular.


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Re: OT. OM-5 first impressions

[John Francis]

On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 04:50:59PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> After the weight of my new (13 months) K3III in my handlebar bag caused my 
> bike to fall over and but the Smart Function knob, I looked into OM-5s again. 
>  The price had dropped below my pain point, and since thanks to online 
> shopping there aren???t any convenient camera stores to look at them, I 
> bought on on Amazon, and if I don???t like it I???ll feel no guilt over 
> returning it.
> 
> My one word review:
> Adequate

Hmm.

I was considering getting an OM-5 as a backup/lighter alternative;
I still feel nervous going anywhere with only a single camera body,
even though I'v never yet had a digital camera body fail on me
(and, in 50 years, only had two mechanical failures; once when my
MX motor drive bent a drive shaft in my MX, and once when my PZ-1p
objected to being used in rain, and took some time off to dry out.
I don't count my MZ-S objecting to having its lens mount knocked
off when I slipped climbing down from a photo tower and banged it
hard against an upright - that was entirely my own fault).

I suspect 'adequate' might still serve my purpose, although I will
admit that I was verging towards the slightly newer OM-D E-M5 Mk III.

I'll be interested to see how you feel about it after a week or two.
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OT. OM-5 first impressions

[Larry Colen]

After the weight of my new (13 months) K3III in my handlebar bag caused my bike 
to fall over and but the Smart Function knob, I looked into OM-5s again.  The 
price had dropped below my pain point, and since thanks to online shopping 
there aren’t any convenient camera stores to look at them, I bought on on 
Amazon, and if I don’t like it I’ll feel no guilt over returning it.

My one word review:
Adequate

My basic review of the Lumix GH3 was that I loved the size, was unimpressed by 
the sensor/image quality and hated the UI.

The OM-5 is the same size, seems to have a substantially better sensor, and the 
UI is better but really makes me appreciate my Pentax cameras.  I would not 
want one as my primary camera, but for something light and convenient to carry, 
if not use, it’ll work.

One example of something that I do on my pentax bodies that I can’t quite do on 
the OM 5 is my nominal shooting modes are two stop bracketing, either nominal 
and -2, or three stops shot in order of -2, nominal and +2.  First of all, with 
the OM, I get at most one stop per frame, it also always shoots nominal first.  
Another difference is that with the Pentax, one press of the shutter shoots all 
of the bracket frames at once.

In daylight, the EVF, frankly, looks like shit.  It is little better than 
giving me the shape of the objects in the frame.  I recognize that there are 
advantages of EVF, particularly in low light, for manual focusing, focus 
peaking is nice to have, and other info, but for the experience of photography, 
not ready for prime, or even zoom, time.

Also the camera’s biggest strength is also a weakness, the small size makes it 
awkward to shoot with, even with my tiny hands.  

Battery life seems mediocre, I’m used to running on Pentax batteries for hours, 
and this seems to be running low fairly quickly, but batteries are light and 
can be bought cheaply.


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