Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-22 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Cotty wrote:


On 21/9/05, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed:


Power Zoom, of
course!


Waste of time!!


And additonal weight.

Kostas



Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-22 Thread Larry Levy
I've used the FA 28-105 and 100-300 on my Z-1 since they all came out. Loved 
and used the power zoom facility other than when I was trying to be more 
discrete (the whining noise attracts attention even before the mirror 
whack).


However, I also used them on earlier models (e.g., SuperProgram and MX) 
before I went for the D. This meant that when I began shooting them on the 
D, I really didn't miss the zoom capability. I also realized how much of a 
battery drainer it is.


'Twould be nice to see it come back - but way down the list which primarily 
includes full K  M capability as well as not having the 1.5 magnification 
effect.


Larry in Dallas



Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Mark Erickson
The list has been consumed with passionate debates about green button wars 
and camera engineering, nobody has mentioned a MAJOR lack of support for a 
key feature that Pentax pioneered!  What am I talking about?  Power Zoom, of 
course! 

It was bad enough when Pentax released their new top-end MZ-S without 
supporting Image-Size Tracking, Zoom Clip, and Zoom Effect capabilities. 
Pentax did at least include Power Zoom contacts in the MZ-S so that the 
power zoom capability in certain FA and FA* zoom lenses didn't completely go 
to waste. 

Unfortunately, Pentax has fully abandoned their many FA and FA* power zoom 
owners with the *ist-D and *ist-Ds.  Wouldn't it have been ridiculously easy 
to include power zoom contacts? 

So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never be 
exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, or does 
someone else out there miss Power Zoom? 





Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread brooksdj

 So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never be 
 exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, or does 
 someone else out there miss Power Zoom? 
 
 
I have the 28-105 and a PZ-1. Never used the PZ feature, so i don't miss it.
The lens is great on the istD though

Dave





Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Rick Womer
When I got my PZ-1 with two power zoom lenses, I
thought it was pretty nifty and used it for a couple
of years. Then I turned it off, and never used it
again.  The zoom size tracking never worked well, and
the zoom clip and zoom effect features struck me
as frippery.

I don't miss it at all now that none of my most-used
lenses have zoom motors (24-90, 80-320, 17-28).

Rick

--- Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am I the only voice crying in the
 wilderness, or does 
 someone else out there miss Power Zoom? 
 
 
 




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Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Joe Wilensky
If nothing else, I like the retract-to-shortest size the lenses do 
when fully supported -- turning the camera off while power zoom is 
engaged not only shortens the lens to the zoom setting that keeps it 
to its shortest physical size, but also focuses the lens to infinity, 
also another measure that puts the lens at its shortest physical 
size. But even the MZ-S doesn't fully support this feature, only 
shortening the zoom without moving the focus to infinity. Some of the 
power zoom lenses don't change size at all when zooming, only when 
focusing, so this function is useless then, on the MZ-S. Thankfully, 
at least, the PZ-1/PZ-1p both support all these power zoom functions 
and features.


Joe


The list has been consumed with passionate debates about green 
button wars and camera engineering, nobody has mentioned a MAJOR 
lack of support for a key feature that Pentax pioneered!  What am I 
talking about?  Power Zoom, of course!
It was bad enough when Pentax released their new top-end MZ-S 
without supporting Image-Size Tracking, Zoom Clip, and Zoom Effect 
capabilities. Pentax did at least include Power Zoom contacts in the 
MZ-S so that the power zoom capability in certain FA and FA* zoom 
lenses didn't completely go to waste.
Unfortunately, Pentax has fully abandoned their many FA and FA* 
power zoom owners with the *ist-D and *ist-Ds.  Wouldn't it have 
been ridiculously easy to include power zoom contacts?
So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never 
be exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, 
or does someone else out there miss Power Zoom?





Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes your are a lone voice crying in the wilderness, power zoom is 
probably the least missed functionality in any camera.


Mark Erickson wrote:

The list has been consumed with passionate debates about green button 
wars and camera engineering, nobody has mentioned a MAJOR lack of 
support for a key feature that Pentax pioneered!  What am I talking 
about?  Power Zoom, of course!
It was bad enough when Pentax released their new top-end MZ-S without 
supporting Image-Size Tracking, Zoom Clip, and Zoom Effect 
capabilities. Pentax did at least include Power Zoom contacts in the 
MZ-S so that the power zoom capability in certain FA and FA* zoom 
lenses didn't completely go to waste.
Unfortunately, Pentax has fully abandoned their many FA and FA* power 
zoom owners with the *ist-D and *ist-Ds.  Wouldn't it have been 
ridiculously easy to include power zoom contacts?
So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never be 
exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, or 
does someone else out there miss Power Zoom?






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When you're worried or in doubt, 
	Run in circles, (scream and shout).




Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/9/05, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed:

Power Zoom, of 
course! 

Waste of time!!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread E.R.N. Reed

Rick Womer wrote:


When I got my PZ-1 with two power zoom lenses, I
thought it was pretty nifty and used it for a couple
of years. Then I turned it off, and never used it
again.  The zoom size tracking never worked well, and
the zoom clip and zoom effect features struck me
as frippery.

I bought a power zoom lens shortly after getting my PZ-1. Still have 
both the camera and the lens. Still use both. Never figured out how to 
use the zoom size tracking or the zoom clip or the zoom effect.




Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Brian Walters
Power zoom was an interesting concept but I never used it as much as I
thought I would.

Can't say I miss it on the DS


Cheers,

Brian

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Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia


Quoting E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Rick Womer wrote:
 
 When I got my PZ-1 with two power zoom lenses, I
 thought it was pretty nifty and used it for a couple
 of years. Then I turned it off, and never used it
 again.  The zoom size tracking never worked well, and
 the zoom clip and zoom effect features struck me
 as frippery.
 
 I bought a power zoom lens shortly after getting my PZ-1. Still
 have 
 both the camera and the lens. Still use both. Never figured out how
 to 
 use the zoom size tracking or the zoom clip or the zoom effect.
 
 





Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This is funny. One of the things that sets the better fixed lens  
digicams apart from the crappy ones is the availability of a manually  
controlled zoom on the lens... ;-)


Godfrey



Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Herb Chong

i never found it useful except to impress the Nikon and Canon owners.

Herb
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses


So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never be 
exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, or does 
someone else out there miss Power Zoom? 




Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread The Professor at Pastiche Studio
No, I have a PZ-1, and a MS-Z and recently gave my (now) daughter-in-law my 
old PZ-20.  I use the power zoom all the time and think it the bee's knees, 
but most people  think its a power hog and not much else.  I never have used 
the functions for zoom tracking on the PZ-1 though.  Tried it once and it 
didn't seem to work all that well.


J.W.L.
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: pentax-discuss pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:02 PM
Subject: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses


The list has been consumed with passionate debates about green button 
wars and camera engineering, nobody has mentioned a MAJOR lack of support 
for a key feature that Pentax pioneered!  What am I talking about?  Power 
Zoom, of course!
It was bad enough when Pentax released their new top-end MZ-S without 
supporting Image-Size Tracking, Zoom Clip, and Zoom Effect capabilities. 
Pentax did at least include Power Zoom contacts in the MZ-S so that the 
power zoom capability in certain FA and FA* zoom lenses didn't completely 
go to waste.
Unfortunately, Pentax has fully abandoned their many FA and FA* power zoom 
owners with the *ist-D and *ist-Ds.  Wouldn't it have been ridiculously 
easy to include power zoom contacts?
So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never be 
exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, or does 
someone else out there miss Power Zoom?








Re: Orphaned Power Zoom Lenses

2005-09-21 Thread Fred
 So now I have two FA* lenses with Power Zoom motors that may never be 
 exercised again.  Am I the only voice crying in the wilderness, or does 
 someone else out there miss Power Zoom?

Well, I have only one Power Zoom lens - the FA* 80-200/2.8.  I never
power zoomed it on my LX's, and never power zoomed it on my DS.  But,
it doesn't sit still long enough to ever feel like an orphan...

Fred