Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:55 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I like the extra streaks at the left of the first one, but I also think that the second one works very well. I think I'd prefer a touch less saturation, but that's just me. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Thanks, Marnie. Me too. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/18/2006 8:08:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 Both are good. I prefer the first though. Feels more complete to me or something, although the second has a more dynamic composition. Nice shot! Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Thanks, David, You're in the majority with your choice. While I didn't enhance it at all, I agree that the saturation seems borderline high. The grasses do have sort of a golden hue to the eye at times. Jack --- David Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:55 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I like the extra streaks at the left of the first one, but I also think that the second one works very well. I think I'd prefer a touch less saturation, but that's just me. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
either of these two works just fine. I tend to like the wider format in this particular instance just a little more. Godfrey On Jul 18, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
I too would go with the wide version. Nice shot. I like the heavily saturated look. Paul -- Original message -- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] either of these two works just fine. I tend to like the wider format in this particular instance just a little more. Godfrey On Jul 18, 2006, at 7:55 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Very cool sky. In this case, I like the first one - the shot is really about the sky and I think a little breathing room on the horse tail works better. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 7:55:21 AM, you wrote: JD Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually JD just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. JD Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring JD Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. JD I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little JD DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. JD The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side JD version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. JD Requesting your opinions. JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
It's hard for me to decide. I like both. I tend to like the strict composition of the cropped version, however... not being their myself, I suspect the uncropped version probably more accurately portrays the sweeping vista of the scene. I have to come down in favor of #1 were I forced to choose. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Horse Tail Sky Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Jack Double Click to Close Window Davis wrote: The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I like the wider version better, even though the subject matter is more centered. I'd have pulled over too for that! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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This is double click Jack. (?) Thanks, Mark for your valued opinion. I agree. Without the left side cloud streaks, there would be no question. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Double Click to Close Window Davis wrote: The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I like the wider version better, even though the subject matter is more centered. I'd have pulled over too for that! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
I first printed and displayed it full frame. Couldn't stop dwelling on it and finally took it off the wall and put up the cropped version. Slept better... for awhile. Love a benign photo concern. Thanks, Tom. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's hard for me to decide. I like both. I tend to like the strict composition of the cropped version, however... not being their myself, I suspect the uncropped version probably more accurately portrays the sweeping vista of the scene. I have to come down in favor of #1 were I forced to choose. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Horse Tail Sky Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Jack Davis wrote: This is double click Jack. (?) All your web pages have Double Click to Close Window as their title! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark, I just took a look at my site and don't see the double click to close window titles?? ..but then I'm obviously helpless. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: This is double click Jack. (?) All your web pages have Double Click to Close Window as their title! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Jack Davis wrote: Mark, I just took a look at my site and don't see the double click to close window titles?? ..but then I'm obviously helpless. It appears in the title bar of the web browser, like so: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/Untitled-1.jpg If you try to bookmark one of your pages, your browser will probably use Double Click to Close Window as the bookmark title. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Yes, I see. This is only when uploading to provide a web link. I wondered if it might, also, be true on my site. Thanks. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Mark, I just took a look at my site and don't see the double click to close window titles?? ..but then I'm obviously helpless. It appears in the title bar of the web browser, like so: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/Untitled-1.jpg If you try to bookmark one of your pages, your browser will probably use Double Click to Close Window as the bookmark title. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
On 7/18/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I prefer the wider one, with the uncropped left side. I don't know what the rules are, but knarf's rules are what looks best works. And of course, only crop if necessary... g Whatever, it's a gorgeous photo. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. What's the point in having a file of rules if you can't break them? ;-) (another vote for the wide) cheers jim - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky This is double click Jack. (?) Thanks, Mark for your valued opinion. I agree. Without the left side cloud streaks, there would be no question. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Double Click to Close Window Davis wrote: The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I like the wider version better, even though the subject matter is more centered. I'd have pulled over too for that! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 7982 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
The problem is being comfortable in yourself that you don't consider it necessary. If the case of two scenic images were being judged by me, and all else being equal as is true in this case, I'd have to go with the cropped image as being more attuned to the rules requiring a compositional balance. I, also, realize I'm allowed to chose the one I like for my wall. Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 I prefer the wider one, with the uncropped left side. I don't know what the rules are, but knarf's rules are what looks best works. And of course, only crop if necessary... g Whatever, it's a gorgeous photo. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
On 7/18/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I, also, realize I'm allowed to chose the one I like for my wall. Where ever did you get that idea? LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
I, also, realize I'm allowed to chose the one I like for my wall. Where ever did you get that idea? Jack - I think we also need a photograph of your wall, so that we can judge the proportions of the available gap G I'd be happy to have taken anything that I could stand looking at every day on my own wall... Mostly bare picture hooks at the moment :-/ cheers jim - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky On 7/18/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I, also, realize I'm allowed to chose the one I like for my wall. Where ever did you get that idea? LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 7982 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Jim, My wife decides such things. I'm afraid her decision is always final. LOL Thanks for remarks. Jack --- jim kerslake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, also, realize I'm allowed to chose the one I like for my wall. Where ever did you get that idea? Jack - I think we also need a photograph of your wall, so that we can judge the proportions of the available gap G I'd be happy to have taken anything that I could stand looking at every day on my own wall... Mostly bare picture hooks at the moment :-/ cheers jim - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky On 7/18/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I, also, realize I'm allowed to chose the one I like for my wall. Where ever did you get that idea? LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 7982 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Actually, my wife has to agree before it goes up. BG Jack --- frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/06, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I, also, realize I'm allowed to chose the one I like for my wall. Where ever did you get that idea? LOL cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
Meaningful remarks. Thanks much! Jack --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/7/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 Wow! Love it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 18/7/06, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 Wow! Love it. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Horse Tail Sky
In a message dated 7/18/2006 8:08:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Came upon this scene some time back and quickly pulled over (I usually just slow down G) for a quick hand held grab. Clouds (not jet con trails) were in a striking form over my neighboring Sutter Buttes and I was shaky anxious to 'get the shot'. I don't recall if I had a tripod in the car, but I went with a little DOF sacrifice in the interest of time. Softish foreground resulted. The left side is very dramatic, but, over time, the cropped left side version is more in keeping with my file of compositional rules. Requesting your opinions. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=137 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=138 Both are good. I prefer the first though. Feels more complete to me or something, although the second has a more dynamic composition. Nice shot! Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
