Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
I'll apologize for belaboring dial-up systems and hope I'll eventually get the idea. Thanks for encouraging remarks. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/18/2006 9:57:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce, I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by saying that I don't have any idea. I'm going to try a much larger upload. I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) How do I estimate the final size? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 = Jack, that's a lot better re green. A lot, lot. And I like it a lot better. But the file size seems a bit big for dial-up, takes a while to load. Of course, I have not helped the file size issue at all, have I? Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
In a message dated 7/19/2006 6:08:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll apologize for belaboring dial-up systems and hope I'll eventually get the idea. Thanks for encouraging remarks. Jack === Later when I watched some other pictures take a long time to load, realized yours took no longer (than some of the slower ones). It was just all that file size discussion that made me think it did. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Sierra Ranch III
@ 72 dpi: (It's too early) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 Jack __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
In a message dated 7/18/2006 6:06:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 Jack It's a very nice image, but it looks too green to me. I know the grass is green and the wood is green-colored, so maybe it's not too green (i.e. in reality it was green). Maybe it just needs more color contrast for me, personally, for it to be a tad more interesting. But it's a nice image. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
No excuse, but I, too, felt it was somewhat too green and confirmed it by com parring it to the site image. Since I was into up-sizing the image, went with that goal rather than color correction. My excuse, abject laziness. Since there have been multiple uploads for this thing, will probably not do it again, but completely agree with you. Thanks for comments. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/18/2006 6:06:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 Jack It's a very nice image, but it looks too green to me. I know the grass is green and the wood is green-colored, so maybe it's not too green (i.e. in reality it was green). Maybe it just needs more color contrast for me, personally, for it to be a tad more interesting. But it's a nice image. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Bruce, I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by saying that I don't have any idea. I'm going to try a much larger upload. I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) How do I estimate the final size? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Why do you have to 'try' an upload? Are you sizing the image before uploading or is there some software you use to do it all at once? To do it best you should resize your image to the dimensions you want and then after that, sharpen to taste for that size. Then save it with the amount of compression you can live with. Lastly, upload the image to your site. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 9:52:07 AM, you wrote: JD Bruce, JD I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by JD saying that I don't have any idea. JD I'm going to try a much larger upload. JD I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. JD I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. JD I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) JD How do I estimate the final size? JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
On a web page all that matters is pixels. ie. 600 pixels x 800 pixels. Level of compression will change the number of bytes in the image file versus the image quality. PPI, DPI, Inches do not matter. These only come into effect when you print. Powell I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) How do I estimate the final size? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
I do it just that way. Some trys have failed in the past. IOW, I'm very insecure. :]] Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you have to 'try' an upload? Are you sizing the image before uploading or is there some software you use to do it all at once? To do it best you should resize your image to the dimensions you want and then after that, sharpen to taste for that size. Then save it with the amount of compression you can live with. Lastly, upload the image to your site. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 9:52:07 AM, you wrote: JD Bruce, JD I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by JD saying that I don't have any idea. JD I'm going to try a much larger upload. JD I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. JD I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. JD I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) JD How do I estimate the final size? JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
As was stated by someone else, for the web, you don't really need to worry about DPI, just the total number of pixels. I'm not sure what software you are using to do you sizing/sharpening - but I just set the final pixel size, and then sharpen. If you save that as a tiff, you don't need to worry about compression. Then do a series of convert/compressions to jpg to see how small you can make it without causing problems. For the most part, you should be able to size to about 800 pixels on the long edge and be less than 300K and still have a very good image. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 11:41:18 AM, you wrote: JD I do it just that way. Some trys have failed in the past. JD IOW, I'm very insecure. :]] JD Jack JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you have to 'try' an upload? Are you sizing the image before uploading or is there some software you use to do it all at once? To do it best you should resize your image to the dimensions you want and then after that, sharpen to taste for that size. Then save it with the amount of compression you can live with. Lastly, upload the image to your site. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 9:52:07 AM, you wrote: JD Bruce, JD I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by JD saying that I don't have any idea. JD I'm going to try a much larger upload. JD I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. JD I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. JD I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) JD How do I estimate the final size? JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Thanks for the information, Powell. Jack --- Powell Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a web page all that matters is pixels. ie. 600 pixels x 800 pixels. Level of compression will change the number of bytes in the image file versus the image quality. PPI, DPI, Inches do not matter. These only come into effect when you print. Powell I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) How do I estimate the final size? Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
Good information Bruce. I'll keep. Thanks. Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As was stated by someone else, for the web, you don't really need to worry about DPI, just the total number of pixels. I'm not sure what software you are using to do you sizing/sharpening - but I just set the final pixel size, and then sharpen. If you save that as a tiff, you don't need to worry about compression. Then do a series of convert/compressions to jpg to see how small you can make it without causing problems. For the most part, you should be able to size to about 800 pixels on the long edge and be less than 300K and still have a very good image. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 11:41:18 AM, you wrote: JD I do it just that way. Some trys have failed in the past. JD IOW, I'm very insecure. :]] JD Jack JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you have to 'try' an upload? Are you sizing the image before uploading or is there some software you use to do it all at once? To do it best you should resize your image to the dimensions you want and then after that, sharpen to taste for that size. Then save it with the amount of compression you can live with. Lastly, upload the image to your site. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 9:52:07 AM, you wrote: JD Bruce, JD I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by JD saying that I don't have any idea. JD I'm going to try a much larger upload. JD I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. JD I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. JD I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) JD How do I estimate the final size? JD Jack JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 JD --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jack, It looks a bit better in regards to sharpening. I do like the image. I routinely post my images at 800 pixels on the long edge and almost never go above 200k - I'm wondering why you are having a struggle? What level of compression are you using? The reason I ask, is because I think this photo will continue to get even better, the bigger it can be viewed. -- Bruce Tuesday, July 18, 2006, 5:58:08 AM, you wrote: JD @ 72 dpi: (It's too early) JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=136 JD Jack JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net JD __ JD Do You Yahoo!? JD Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Sierra Ranch III
In a message dated 7/18/2006 9:57:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bruce, I'll just go ahead and embarrass myself (my life long challenge) by saying that I don't have any idea. I'm going to try a much larger upload. I desaturated the green, but the image still has a green look about it. I think, it's simply do to the expanse of grass. I set the image size, but when attached, it's seriously compressed.(??) How do I estimate the final size? Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=139 = Jack, that's a lot better re green. A lot, lot. And I like it a lot better. But the file size seems a bit big for dial-up, takes a while to load. Of course, I have not helped the file size issue at all, have I? Hehehehe. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
