Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-30 Thread Joseph McAllister
From what I recall of my childhood AmFly set, the difference then was scale, 
mine smaller than Lionel (and less expensive). I had the Burlington Zephyr 
aluminum streamliner (in the 50s) because I had ridden a version of it from 
Phoenix to LA in 1952 when I was ten. Lionel had 3 rail track, my AmFly had 
only two (why have more, I dunno).

When I left for college in 1960 as soon as I got on the plane my mother sold my 
Slingerland Drum set, and my train set. Bummer.


On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:34 , Alan C wrote:

 Yes, you're right. Lionel track was O gauge but all the early Lionel rolling 
 stock, including locos, were under-scale, closer to S than O. I was confusing 
 gauge  scale. I still have quite a bit of it and everything is small 
 compared to my stock of European origin. More recent Lionel trains are both O 
 gauge  O scale 1:48. I have a Texas Special A-B Diesel loco which is full O 
 scale. European O is a little bigger 1:43.5. BTW, according to what I read on 
 the Web, American Flyer never made S gauge stuff. The plot thickens!
 
 I might just be tempted to dust everything off, put down a few meters of 
 track  take some side-by-side snaps.
 
 Alan




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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-30 Thread Alan C
A lot of early electric model train manufacturers went for three rail so 
that the wheels did not have to be insulated, the outer rails being common  
the centre one completing the circuit. Lionel was AC, others DC. I converted 
all my Lionel to 2 rail DC using rectifier bridges on the motors  
insulating the wheels so it could run on the same track as the rest. 
Nowadays, battery powered radio control is becoming the in-thing so even 
plastic track could be used!


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Joseph McAllister

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:09 AM
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Subject: Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

From what I recall of my childhood AmFly set, the difference then was scale, 
mine smaller than Lionel (and less expensive). I had the Burlington Zephyr 
aluminum streamliner (in the 50s) because I had ridden a version of it from 
Phoenix to LA in 1952 when I was ten. Lionel had 3 rail track, my AmFly had 
only two (why have more, I dunno).


When I left for college in 1960 as soon as I got on the plane my mother sold 
my Slingerland Drum set, and my train set. Bummer.



On Oct 29, 2013, at 11:34 , Alan C wrote:

Yes, you're right. Lionel track was O gauge but all the early Lionel 
rolling stock, including locos, were under-scale, closer to S than O. I 
was confusing gauge  scale. I still have quite a bit of it and everything 
is small compared to my stock of European origin. More recent Lionel 
trains are both O gauge  O scale 1:48. I have a Texas Special A-B Diesel 
loco which is full O scale. European O is a little bigger 1:43.5. BTW, 
according to what I read on the Web, American Flyer never made S gauge 
stuff. The plot thickens!


I might just be tempted to dust everything off, put down a few meters of 
track  take some side-by-side snaps.


Alan





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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Alan,
Minor points department, but the original Lionel trains were O gauge, not S.
American Flyer was S gauge, and a copycat.
Trust me, I got my first Lionel train over 63 years ago from my Uncle.
He was a Lionel train fanatic and had a collection of all their stuff,
back to tinplate.
Regards, Bob


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 Thanks for that, George. I over-estimated the size of the chess pieces 
 thought it might be O Gauge. The vintage Lionel was actually S Gauge, a bit
 smaller than O. I have Lionel, Hornby, Rivarossi  Big-Big plus about 80m of
 self made track. When I still lived in Rhodesia, there were 3 of us but I
 never got going again after moving here. Yes, the modern stuff is very high
 quality  expensive, as you say, like our photography.

 Alan

 -Original Message- From: George Sinos
 Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:10 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

 Thanks for the comments everyone.

 Alan - the train in this photo is HO scale, roughly half the size of O.

 When I was in the hobby shop buying the circle of track for these
 trains I saw some modern O.  Wow, nothing like the old Lionel stuff
 that I remember from when I was a kid.  Much more detailed and very
 much made to look as real as possible.  Also, very expensive. $50-$80
 for a boxcar. Engine prices were in the Hundreds of dollars. That
 would add up pretty quickly.  Of course, O is pretty big, so you
 wouldn't need much.  Then again, from the conversation I overheard
 while there, I'm guessing the train hobbyists have the same issues
 with rolling stock as photographers have with lenses.

 gs




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 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com


 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

 Great idea. Gauge O, is it? I have a huge collection of it from my youth
 (simply gathering dust). I intended to build a garden railway but never
 did.
 I feel the creative juices stirring again.

 Alan

 -Original Message- From: George Sinos
 Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 3:31 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

 Subject: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

 I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
 table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
 track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
 decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
 train.)

 Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
 and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
 time. Here are the results.

 http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

 I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
 Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
 forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
 they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
 or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
 www.GeorgeSinos.com

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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-29 Thread Alan C
Yes, you're right. Lionel track was O gauge but all the early Lionel rolling 
stock, including locos, were under-scale, closer to S than O. I was 
confusing gauge  scale. I still have quite a bit of it and everything is 
small compared to my stock of European origin. More recent Lionel trains are 
both O gauge  O scale 1:48. I have a Texas Special A-B Diesel loco which is 
full O scale. European O is a little bigger 1:43.5. BTW, according to what I 
read on the Web, American Flyer never made S gauge stuff. The plot thickens!


I might just be tempted to dust everything off, put down a few meters of 
track  take some side-by-side snaps.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Sullivan

Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 5:07 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

Alan,
Minor points department, but the original Lionel trains were O gauge, not S.
American Flyer was S gauge, and a copycat.
Trust me, I got my first Lionel train over 63 years ago from my Uncle.
He was a Lionel train fanatic and had a collection of all their stuff,
back to tinplate.
Regards, Bob


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:14 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

Thanks for that, George. I over-estimated the size of the chess pieces 
thought it might be O Gauge. The vintage Lionel was actually S Gauge, a 
bit
smaller than O. I have Lionel, Hornby, Rivarossi  Big-Big plus about 80m 
of

self made track. When I still lived in Rhodesia, there were 3 of us but I
never got going again after moving here. Yes, the modern stuff is very 
high

quality  expensive, as you say, like our photography.

Alan

-Original Message- From: George Sinos
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:10 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

Thanks for the comments everyone.

Alan - the train in this photo is HO scale, roughly half the size of O.

When I was in the hobby shop buying the circle of track for these
trains I saw some modern O.  Wow, nothing like the old Lionel stuff
that I remember from when I was a kid.  Much more detailed and very
much made to look as real as possible.  Also, very expensive. $50-$80
for a boxcar. Engine prices were in the Hundreds of dollars. That
would add up pretty quickly.  Of course, O is pretty big, so you
wouldn't need much.  Then again, from the conversation I overheard
while there, I'm guessing the train hobbyists have the same issues
with rolling stock as photographers have with lenses.

gs




George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:


Great idea. Gauge O, is it? I have a huge collection of it from my 
youth

(simply gathering dust). I intended to build a garden railway but never
did.
I feel the creative juices stirring again.

Alan

-Original Message- From: George Sinos
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 3:31 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Subject: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
train.)

Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
time. Here are the results.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com

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PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread George Sinos
I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
train.)

Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
time. Here are the results.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

gs

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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread Jack Davis
Enjoyed the nudge of nostalgia,  Had to be fun to do.
 
Jack


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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 6:31 AM
Subject: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
train.)

Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
time. Here are the results.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com

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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread knarf
Video works on my android.

Cool stuff!

Cheers,
frank



George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
train.)

Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
time. Here are the results.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com

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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Worked well on my iPad 2 as well.  The iPhone did a nice job with the 
video...


-p

On 10/28/2013 10:00 AM, knarf wrote:

Video works on my android.

Cool stuff!

Cheers,
frank



George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
train.)

Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
time. Here are the results.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread Alan C
Great idea. Gauge O, is it? I have a huge collection of it from my youth 
(simply gathering dust). I intended to build a garden railway but never did. 
I feel the creative juices stirring again.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: George Sinos

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 3:31 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
train.)

Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
time. Here are the results.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

gs

George Sinos

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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread George Sinos
Thanks for the comments everyone.

Alan - the train in this photo is HO scale, roughly half the size of O.

When I was in the hobby shop buying the circle of track for these
trains I saw some modern O.  Wow, nothing like the old Lionel stuff
that I remember from when I was a kid.  Much more detailed and very
much made to look as real as possible.  Also, very expensive. $50-$80
for a boxcar. Engine prices were in the Hundreds of dollars. That
would add up pretty quickly.  Of course, O is pretty big, so you
wouldn't need much.  Then again, from the conversation I overheard
while there, I'm guessing the train hobbyists have the same issues
with rolling stock as photographers have with lenses.

gs




George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 Great idea. Gauge O, is it? I have a huge collection of it from my youth
 (simply gathering dust). I intended to build a garden railway but never did.
 I feel the creative juices stirring again.

 Alan

 -Original Message- From: George Sinos
 Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 3:31 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

 Subject: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

 I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
 table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
 track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
 decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
 train.)

 Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
 and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
 time. Here are the results.

 http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

 I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
 Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
 forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
 they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
 or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

 gs

 George Sinos
 
 www.GeorgesPhotos.net
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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread Alan C
Thanks for that, George. I over-estimated the size of the chess pieces  
thought it might be O Gauge. The vintage Lionel was actually S Gauge, a bit 
smaller than O. I have Lionel, Hornby, Rivarossi  Big-Big plus about 80m of 
self made track. When I still lived in Rhodesia, there were 3 of us but I 
never got going again after moving here. Yes, the modern stuff is very high 
quality  expensive, as you say, like our photography.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: George Sinos

Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:10 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

Thanks for the comments everyone.

Alan - the train in this photo is HO scale, roughly half the size of O.

When I was in the hobby shop buying the circle of track for these
trains I saw some modern O.  Wow, nothing like the old Lionel stuff
that I remember from when I was a kid.  Much more detailed and very
much made to look as real as possible.  Also, very expensive. $50-$80
for a boxcar. Engine prices were in the Hundreds of dollars. That
would add up pretty quickly.  Of course, O is pretty big, so you
wouldn't need much.  Then again, from the conversation I overheard
while there, I'm guessing the train hobbyists have the same issues
with rolling stock as photographers have with lenses.

gs




George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

Great idea. Gauge O, is it? I have a huge collection of it from my youth
(simply gathering dust). I intended to build a garden railway but never 
did.

I feel the creative juices stirring again.

Alan

-Original Message- From: George Sinos
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 3:31 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Subject: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

I'm putting up a smaller Christmas tree this year that will sit atop a
table.  The table is big enough to accommodate a small circle of train
track. Rather than leave such an important task to the last minute, I
decided to test things out this weekend. (Not the tree. Just the
train.)

Killing two birds with one stone, I shot a little video with my iPhone
and tried out the video editing features in Photoshop CC for the first
time. Here are the results.

http://georgesinos.com/blog/2013/10/27/the-christmas-train

I was surprised at how quickly I figured out the video editor in
Photoshop CC.  It was (Unlike most things in PS) quite straight
forward.  I've used a couple of other video editors in the past and
they have many more features.  But for slapping together a quick video
or slide show, this looks like it will do everything I need.

gs

George Sinos

www.GeorgesPhotos.net
www.GeorgeSinos.com

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Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train

2013-10-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
You get more bang for your buck, especially with under the tree stuff, with N 
gauge. Two levels, a siding, houses, factories, etc. Oh, and Santa's Sleigh!  
:)  All on a two foot square elevated piece of 3/4 plywood with a 8 hole 
under and through the mountain.


On Oct 28, 2013, at 21:14 , Alan C wrote:

 Thanks for that, George. I over-estimated the size of the chess pieces  
 thought it might be O Gauge. The vintage Lionel was actually S Gauge, a bit 
 smaller than O. I have Lionel, Hornby, Rivarossi  Big-Big plus about 80m of 
 self made track. When I still lived in Rhodesia, there were 3 of us but I 
 never got going again after moving here. Yes, the modern stuff is very high 
 quality  expensive, as you say, like our photography.
 
 Alan
 
 -Original Message- From: George Sinos
 Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:10 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: PESO - (and VESO) The Christmas Train
 
 Thanks for the comments everyone.
 
 Alan - the train in this photo is HO scale, roughly half the size of O.
 
 When I was in the hobby shop buying the circle of track for these
 trains I saw some modern O.  Wow, nothing like the old Lionel stuff
 that I remember from when I was a kid.  Much more detailed and very
 much made to look as real as possible.  Also, very expensive. $50-$80
 for a boxcar. Engine prices were in the Hundreds of dollars. That
 would add up pretty quickly.  Of course, O is pretty big, so you
 wouldn't need much.  Then again, from the conversation I overheard
 while there, I'm guessing the train hobbyists have the same issues
 with rolling stock as photographers have with lenses.
 
 gs


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