Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
I'd do the same or as similar as possible... Boris David Savage wrote: Here's my take: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/bkd_4666_std_BD_DSv.jpg Cheers, Dave On 4/8/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 7, 2007, 10:35:02 AM, you wrote: BD I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some BD of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. BD Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld BD ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
Rick Womer wrote: Dave's is good. Another possibility is to crop the left 60% and the right 20% and make it a vertical. Rick http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm That's what I'd do... Make it a vertical. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
Bruce Dayton wrote: I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 Here is my take: http://tinyurl.com/38d3ru Incidentally, of all the bird shots you've displayed in the past few days, this one seems to be the sharpest with least amount of noise. The others seemed pretty soft to me. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
Thanks for the cropping advice Christian. As to softness, I won't disagree. I'm sure it comes from two major areas - one I can control and one I can't. Shooting technique is still in it's infancy for me and I'm sure that I can improve quite a bit. The other is equipment. I am shooting a lowly Tokina 400/5.6 that I only paid a few hundred dollars for. For the price, it is quite good - but it is no match for some really serious glass like the new 500 you just picked up (jealous!) or a 600/4 or some such. Alas, I can't envision a time in the near future when any more glass than I already have would come into my hands. Too many other directions and obligations right now. Thanks for commenting and for helping to identify the birds. -- Bruce Monday, April 9, 2007, 8:23:19 AM, you wrote: C Bruce Dayton wrote: I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 C Here is my take: C http://tinyurl.com/38d3ru C Incidentally, of all the bird shots you've displayed in the past few C days, this one seems to be the sharpest with least amount of noise. The C others seemed pretty soft to me. C -- C Christian C http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 7, 2007, 10:35:02 AM, you wrote: BD I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some BD of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. BD Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld BD ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 BD -- BD Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
Here's my take: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/bkd_4666_std_BD_DSv.jpg Cheers, Dave On 4/8/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 7, 2007, 10:35:02 AM, you wrote: BD I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some BD of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. BD Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld BD ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO - Bird - cropping advice
I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
Dave's is good. Another possibility is to crop the left 60% and the right 20% and make it a vertical. Rick --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my take: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/bkd_4666_std_BD_DSv.jpg Cheers, Dave On 4/8/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 7, 2007, 10:35:02 AM, you wrote: BD I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some BD of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. BD Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld BD ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
Typo: crop the left 40 percent. Leave the bird! Rick --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's my take: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/bkd_4666_std_BD_DSv.jpg Cheers, Dave On 4/8/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 7, 2007, 10:35:02 AM, you wrote: BD I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some BD of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. BD Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld BD ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi Bruce, On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:36:42 -0700, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Won't go into that, pot kettle :-) Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm Well,the blurred branches/tree are quite disturbing I think, so I would try to get most of that out. Perhaps the upper-left-corner where the blurry branch meets the tree, and upper-right a bit to the right of the bird ... That would leave almost 50% of the total area in the image while leaving out most of the blurry parts ... Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
I'd make it a vertical with the branch he's sitting on tucked into the upper left hand corner. Good shot, by the way. Ugly bird:-)). Paul On Apr 7, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 7, 2007, 10:35:02 AM, you wrote: BD I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some BD of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. BD Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld BD ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 BD -- BD Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
My take also. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice I'd make it a vertical with the branch he's sitting on tucked into the upper left hand corner. Good shot, by the way. Ugly bird:-)). Paul On Apr 7, 2007, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce Saturday, April 7, 2007, 10:35:02 AM, you wrote: BD I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some BD of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. BD Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld BD ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 BD -- BD Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
On 8/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's my take: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/bkd_4666_std_BD_DSv.jpg Bloody cheat!! Not bad... -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
I think you should crop it horizontally just above the white portion. Bruce Dayton wrote: I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. Pentax K10D, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 400, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 -- Entropy Seminar: The results of a five yeer studee ntu the sekend lw uf thurmodynamiks aand itz inevibl fxt hon shewb rt nslpn raq liot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 Bruce Dayton wrote: I'd like some advice on how to crop this shot most effectively. Some of the surroundings are probably nice to have and some not. Bruce, I like the overall image especially the colors, but agree it could be cropped some. Initially I thought just a small amount for the distracting out of focus elements on the left and right. And as someone else hinted a vertical orientation, I thought I'd try my take. Tried to remove some of the distracting branch which could be done sucsessfully if one were to spend more time. That is unless you are opposed to some degree of cheating. I think as artists we should be allowed that liberty to remove distracting element through digital manipulation. After all isn't it basically the same as cropping? JayT http://i.pbase.com/o6/87/63987/1/76809583.xhAovABH.DaytonRetouch.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
In a message dated 4/7/2007 10:37:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure I'm going to get some heckling for forgetting the URL - probably the best crop of all grin. Here's the URL: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_4666.htm -- Best regards, Bruce == Vertical and clone out what is left of the blurry twig right behind him. Except you don't clone. Actually judicious cloning would it improve it a lot. Marnie aka Doe ;-) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Bird - cropping advice
On 4/8/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/4/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's my take: http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/bkd_4666_std_BD_DSv.jpg Bloody cheat!! Not bad... g Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
