Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Wed Jun 11 19:05:28 EDT 2014 Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Mark Roberts postmaster at robertstech.com wrote: My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Technically, sperm that carries a Y chromosome could be said to be male sperm and that with an X chromosome could be said to be a female sperm. But I don't think that's what they meant :) Sorting it on the fly would be an impressive party trick. Sorting anything on a fly? - That's either tricky or kinky. ;-) (``It depends on what the meaning of the ... is.'' - almost a quotation.) Cheers! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Technically, sperm that carries a Y chromosome could be said to be male sperm and that with an X chromosome could be said to be a female sperm. But I don't think that's what they meant :) Sorting it on the fly would be an impressive party trick. I never get invited to parties like those. If I invited you would you come? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Thank you, for the interesting document. Well, the Press Release you referenced is full of ... puffing up the cheaks. Together, both partners have a combined history of 146 years in the Photo Industry. Along those lines, PDML has combined photographic experience of over 500 years! Does that number matter? Igor Morris Galloway Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:51:07 -0700 wrote: Ilford here? Ilford Where? Before we all know it, this Ilford mess will be as big as Aspirin, Nylon and the rest of that whole trademark imbroglio. As if that were not enough, here is the press release from C.R. Kennedy, mis-branded or mis-identified wrongly in another presser as C.R. K. Kennedy already sited here. http://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/Ilford/Chronology/Marc_Payett/PRESS%20RELEASE%20-%20WORLD%20FAMOUS%20ILFORD%20BRAND%20NOW%20IN%20SAFE%20HANDS%20-%20May%2014.pdf (Yes, C.R. Kennedy does have a very nice K inside their rectangle logo.) Just make film, paper and other stuff, Ilford, or whoever is whoever. Galloway, confused again, re-lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Thank you, for the interesting document. Well, the Press Release you referenced is full of ... puffing up the cheaks. Together, both partners have a combined history of 146 years in the Photo Industry. Along those lines, PDML has combined photographic experience of over 500 years! Does that number matter? Of course. It means we were arguing about the sharpness of glass and sturdiness of tripods before the camera was even invented. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Apart from the lack of meaning in the sentence quoted, it includes one of those strange repetitive and redundant turns of phrase which really grates on my nerves. “Together, both partners have a combined history…” Lets deconstruct that. If they have a combined history of whatever, then it probably is not separately. So Saying “Together” is not needed. And then we find that “…both partners have…” Not just one of the partners, but both of them? Imagine that. A simple straightforward phrasing would be: “The partners have a combined history…” If they are going to write meaningless twaddle, at least they could avoid bad writing. stan On Jun 11, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Thank you, for the interesting document. Well, the Press Release you referenced is full of ... puffing up the cheaks. Together, both partners have a combined history of 146 years in the Photo Industry. Along those lines, PDML has combined photographic experience of over 500 years! Does that number matter? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Stan, yes, I saw that but decided that I shouldn't be too picky. :-) Back when I was a kid, there was a very popular program Radio-Nanny. They were discussing a bunch of different things, but occasionally they were discussing some grammar questions in a funny way. One time there was this dialogue: - ... I saw it with my own eyes! ... - Hold on .. Do you have eyes that yours but not own(ed)? - I saw it with my eyes!... - Hold on... Can you see with somebody else's eyes? - I saw it with eyes!... - Can you see with something besides your eyes (maybe ears?) - I saw it! - There we go... What did you see? Back in the college, one of my faviorite professors wrote as a part of the autograph in his book: Tautology yields emphasis! Keep learning, Igor! Indeed, frequently, the intent of tautology is the emphasis. And that is a known effect and trend. I believe it has been even discussed on the popular radio program A Way With Words http://www.waywordradio.org/ It bothers me neverthless, I am with you on that. Cheers, Igor Stanley Halpin Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:33:44 -0700 wrote: Apart from the lack of meaning in the sentence quoted, it includes one of those strange repetitive and redundant turns of phrase which really grates on my nerves. Together, both partners have a combined history. Lets deconstruct that. If they have a combined history of whatever, then it probably is not separately. So Saying Together is not needed. And then we find that ...both partners have... Not just one of the partners, but both of them? Imagine that. A simple straightforward phrasing would be: The partners have a combined history... If they are going to write meaningless twaddle, at least they could avoid bad writing. stan On Jun 11, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Thank you, for the interesting document. Well, the Press Release you referenced is full of ... puffing up the cheaks. Together, both partners have a combined history of 146 years in the Photo Industry. Along those lines, PDML has combined photographic experience of over 500 years! Does that number matter? Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Apart from the lack of meaning in the sentence quoted, it includes one of those strange repetitive and redundant turns of phrase which really grates on my nerves. “Together, both partners have a combined history…” My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Apart from the lack of meaning in the sentence quoted, it includes one of those strange repetitive and redundant turns of phrase which really grates on my nerves. Together, both partners have a combined history My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Technically, sperm that carries a Y chromosome could be said to be male sperm and that with an X chromosome could be said to be a female sperm. But I don't think that's what they meant :) -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Technically, sperm that carries a Y chromosome could be said to be male sperm and that with an X chromosome could be said to be a female sperm. But I don't think that's what they meant :) Sorting it on the fly would be an impressive party trick. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Technically, sperm that carries a Y chromosome could be said to be male sperm and that with an X chromosome could be said to be a female sperm. But I don't think that's what they meant :) Sorting it on the fly would be an impressive party trick. I never get invited to parties like those. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: A simple straightforward phrasing would be: “The partners have a combined history…” If they are going to write meaningless twaddle, at least they could avoid bad writing. Consider the source. The kind of folks that write meaningless twaddle are not the kind that worry about writing quality. Having had to work closely with The Marketing Dept. at a couple of high-tech firms, I know this well. At best you can hope that meaningless twaddle producers would at least hire good editors. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
You would miss the half the joy of deconstruction, in that case. On 6/11/2014 5:32 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: Apart from the lack of meaning in the sentence quoted, it includes one of those strange repetitive and redundant turns of phrase which really grates on my nerves. “Together, both partners have a combined history…” Lets deconstruct that. If they have a combined history of whatever, then it probably is not separately. So Saying “Together” is not needed. And then we find that “…both partners have…” Not just one of the partners, but both of them? Imagine that. A simple straightforward phrasing would be: “The partners have a combined history…” If they are going to write meaningless twaddle, at least they could avoid bad writing. stan On Jun 11, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: Thank you, for the interesting document. Well, the Press Release you referenced is full of ... puffing up the cheaks. Together, both partners have a combined history of 146 years in the Photo Industry. Along those lines, PDML has combined photographic experience of over 500 years! Does that number matter? Igor -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
On 6/11/2014 6:46 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Apart from the lack of meaning in the sentence quoted, it includes one of those strange repetitive and redundant turns of phrase which really grates on my nerves. “Together, both partners have a combined history…” My Spousal Unit watches true-crime shows on TV, and the law enforcement officers they interview are apparently paid by the syllable. My favorite redundancy from this evening's episode: It tested positive for male semen. Well, you wouldn't want it to test positive for female semen, would you? -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
On 11/06/2014 1:36 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Along those lines, PDML has combined photographic experience of over 500 years! Given the age of most of us, I suspect you could safely at a zero to that number. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Igor Roshchin wrote: I was going to buy some inks and some Ilford Pearl paper, but found that the latter is discontinued (on Atlex, and everywhere else, at least in 5x7). So, I called Atlex, and they told me that Ilford (as a company, not just paper) is no more: it closed about a month ago. So, if you want to buy any ilford paper remaining in stock at your favorite supplier, - don't wait! I apologize if this is an old news.. http://www.pr-inside.com/fespa-news-ilford-returns-r4058016.htm -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Tue Jun 10 13:11:52 EDT 2014 Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: I was going to buy some inks and some Ilford Pearl paper, but found that the latter is discontinued (on Atlex, and everywhere else, at least in 5x7). So, I called Atlex, and they told me that Ilford (as a company, not just paper) is no more: it closed about a month ago. So, if you want to buy any ilford paper remaining in stock at your favorite supplier, - don't wait! I apologize if this is an old news.. http://www.pr-inside.com/fespa-news-ilford-returns-r4058016.htm Thanks, Mark! When I saw The ILFORD.COM website is being updated on ilford.com, I was not sure if that meant to be for restructuring of the company or for selling off its assets. I hope they will recover and will again provide paper to the distributors. Apparently, I was unable to find any other Pearl paper in 5x7. Ilford seems to be the only manufacturer for Pearl in 5x7. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Igor - Red River Paper sells three different versions of satin/pearl paper. Here's a comparison of the three from their web site. http://tinyurl.com/63x4phr They also have a Pearl Metallic... http://tinyurl.com/2c3hck2 -p On 6/10/2014 12:35 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Tue Jun 10 13:11:52 EDT 2014 Mark Roberts wrote: Igor Roshchin wrote: I was going to buy some inks and some Ilford Pearl paper, but found that the latter is discontinued (on Atlex, and everywhere else, at least in 5x7). So, I called Atlex, and they told me that Ilford (as a company, not just paper) is no more: it closed about a month ago. So, if you want to buy any ilford paper remaining in stock at your favorite supplier, - don't wait! I apologize if this is an old news.. http://www.pr-inside.com/fespa-news-ilford-returns-r4058016.htm Thanks, Mark! When I saw The ILFORD.COM website is being updated on ilford.com, I was not sure if that meant to be for restructuring of the company or for selling off its assets. I hope they will recover and will again provide paper to the distributors. Apparently, I was unable to find any other Pearl paper in 5x7. Ilford seems to be the only manufacturer for Pearl in 5x7. Igor -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
:-( thanks for the heads up ann - Ilford and Oriental were my papers of choice back in my film days.. and the Ilford High gloss ink jet stuff - so sorry to hear this ann On 6/10/2014 12:30, Igor Roshchin wrote: I was going to buy some inks and some Ilford Pearl paper, but found that the latter is discontinued (on Atlex, and everywhere else, at least in 5x7). So, I called Atlex, and they told me that Ilford (as a company, not just paper) is no more: it closed about a month ago. So, if you want to buy any ilford paper remaining in stock at your favorite supplier, - don't wait! I apologize if this is an old news.. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Paul, Thank you for the reference to the RR papers. Actually, right around the moment I was sending the message to PDML, I was checking your previous response to my quesiton about metallic papers, and checked out RR website for the pearl papers. I saw those satin papers. I am tempted to try them, but a combination of a few factors stops me at the point: 1. The shipping for just one pack of paper is a bit too expensive, about $7. Since I am buying Epson inks, I considered buying those from RR, instead of Atlex. While the nominal shipping is cheaper than that at Atlex, the prices make up and bring the overall cost some $15 higher than what I'd be paying at Atlex for a comparable package. I was also considering buying a sample pack, and I was very disappointed by the way they do their sample packs. They actually mark the paper on the FRONT side. They say that you can cut 8.5x11 pieces to a useable 8x10 size, but I have much smaller use for 8x10, and besides, I don't want to cut where I don't have to. You might consider it a caprice. To some extent, it is. When I see that Atlex sells _fully_ usable sample packs, (and has cheaper inks) I feel that RR makes their sample packs awkward way for no good reason. So, I am considering if I should vote against that with my wallet. But I am still thinking.. Igor Tue Jun 10 13:54:08 EDT 2014 Paul wrote: Igor - Red River Paper sells three different versions of satin/pearl paper. Here's a comparison of the three from their web site. http://tinyurl.com/63x4phr They also have a Pearl Metallic... http://tinyurl.com/2c3hck2 -p -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Note that it is the digital company Ilford Imaging Switzerland that went under, not the analog business in the UK which is Harman Technology. Both use the Ilford brand name but they aren't otherwise connected. Ironically the digital business was what was thought to be the profitable half when the analog business was dumped and bought by a consortium of former managers. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia On 11 Jun 2014, at 2:30 am, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: I was going to buy some inks and some Ilford Pearl paper, but found that the latter is discontinued (on Atlex, and everywhere else, at least in 5x7). So, I called Atlex, and they told me that Ilford (as a company, not just paper) is no more: it closed about a month ago. So, if you want to buy any ilford paper remaining in stock at your favorite supplier, - don't wait! I apologize if this is an old news.. Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Harman, the company that bought the Ilford BW film and paper business, seems to be going strong. So it's just the company specializing in as inkjet papers based in Switzerland that has gone belly up. On 6/10/2014 12:30 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I was going to buy some inks and some Ilford Pearl paper, but found that the latter is discontinued (on Atlex, and everywhere else, at least in 5x7). So, I called Atlex, and they told me that Ilford (as a company, not just paper) is no more: it closed about a month ago. So, if you want to buy any ilford paper remaining in stock at your favorite supplier, - don't wait! I apologize if this is an old news.. Cheers, Igor -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Speaking of Harmon, makers of Ilford Photosensitive materials, they apparently also make Inkjet materials, which includes this, http://www.harman-inkjet.com/products/product.asp?n=85t=HARMAN+CRYSTALJET+ELITE in a Pearl finish. On 6/10/2014 12:30 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I was going to buy some inks and some Ilford Pearl paper, but found that the latter is discontinued (on Atlex, and everywhere else, at least in 5x7). So, I called Atlex, and they told me that Ilford (as a company, not just paper) is no more: it closed about a month ago. So, if you want to buy any ilford paper remaining in stock at your favorite supplier, - don't wait! I apologize if this is an old news.. Cheers, Igor -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust -- Ilford
Ilford here? Ilford Where? Before we all know it, this Ilford mess will be as big as Aspirin, Nylon and the rest of that whole trademark imbroglio. As if that were not enough, here is the press release from C.R. Kennedy, mis-branded or mis-identified wrongly in another presser as C.R. K. Kennedy already sited here. http://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/Ilford/Chronology/Marc_Payett/PRESS%20RELEASE%20-%20WORLD%20FAMOUS%20ILFORD%20BRAND%20NOW%20IN%20SAFE%20HANDS%20-%20May%2014.pdf (Yes, C.R. Kennedy does have a very nice K inside their rectangle logo.) Just make film, paper and other stuff, Ilford, or whoever is whoever. Galloway, confused again, re-lurking. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust
I never realised you were in Oxford, Cotty. My sister and her boyfriend now live there, so if I ever cross the pond to visit them I'll give you a shout. As for the topic at hand, the old adage still holds true: If you can't bet 'em, join 'em. Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 9 January 2013 17:16, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 9/1/13, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: It seems that old fashioned camera stores can survive better than huge faceless chains. It just requires /work/ , and probably a bit of masochism. Milford Photo, seems to be surviving very nicely, at least for now. It probably helps that every other camera store in a 100 mile radius has dried up and blown away. There used to be a fantastic independent photographic shop in Oxford called Morris Photographic - in fact many a PDMLer who has made the trip to Oxford was dragged in there by me at some point.. http://www.highstreetuk.com/oxford/Oxford_high_street.jpeg (blue building) but for quite some years now they closed the shop and evacuated from Oxford, retreating from extortionate rent and lack of decent trade. Sure, tourists would come in and buy the odd case and batteries, but the real money is in the high value items. Instead, they set up in a business unit about 45 mins drive away right up in the cotswolds near a village called Chipping Norton, where they still are. They revamped the website and are now a major online retailer. The joy is though, they still have an aladdin's cave showroom chock full of lowepro bags and manfrotto kit, not to mention cameras of all types. No appointment necessary, if you make the trip you just turn up like any old shop. Brilliant. So rather than try and beat the web business, they embraced it, and survived. http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/about.html Just sayin -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust
On 10/1/13, Miserere, discombobulated, unleashed: I never realised you were in Oxford, Cotty. My sister and her boyfriend now live there, so if I ever cross the pond to visit them I'll give you a shout. Please do! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another one bites the dust
It seems that old fashioned camera stores can survive better than huge faceless chains. It just requires /work/ , and probably a bit of masochism. Milford Photo, seems to be surviving very nicely, at least for now. It probably helps that every other camera store in a 100 mile radius has dried up and blown away. Too bad they can't get Pentax to even return their calls... On 1/9/2013 3:35 PM, Bob W wrote: Jessops is the biggest high street camera retailer in the UK http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20958659 They bought out a lot of the old-fashioned camera stores during the digital revolution and turned them into anonymous clones. On the other hand, they did have a wonderful classic camera outlet for a while, and it was Jessops that my insurance company got to resupply me when my Pentax stuff was stolen. However, I haven't bought much from them, and I can't say I regret their passing. This comment is telling: Neil Saunders, retail analyst at Conlumino, explained the root of Jessops' problems. The amateur market collapsed because people who once bought cameras found that they had these things on their smartphones and they used those instead, and the professionals found that they could use online niche specialists who were cheaper and often had more extensive ranges, he said. So both migrated away from Jessops. B -- Buy a Leica to get the full “Leica Experience”, (a quick reduction of funds in the bank account). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/1/13, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: It seems that old fashioned camera stores can survive better than huge faceless chains. It just requires /work/ , and probably a bit of masochism. Milford Photo, seems to be surviving very nicely, at least for now. It probably helps that every other camera store in a 100 mile radius has dried up and blown away. There used to be a fantastic independent photographic shop in Oxford called Morris Photographic - in fact many a PDMLer who has made the trip to Oxford was dragged in there by me at some point.. http://www.highstreetuk.com/oxford/Oxford_high_street.jpeg (blue building) but for quite some years now they closed the shop and evacuated from Oxford, retreating from extortionate rent and lack of decent trade. Sure, tourists would come in and buy the odd case and batteries, but the real money is in the high value items. Instead, they set up in a business unit about 45 mins drive away right up in the cotswolds near a village called Chipping Norton, where they still are. They revamped the website and are now a major online retailer. The joy is though, they still have an aladdin's cave showroom chock full of lowepro bags and manfrotto kit, not to mention cameras of all types. No appointment necessary, if you make the trip you just turn up like any old shop. Brilliant. So rather than try and beat the web business, they embraced it, and survived. http://www.morrisphoto.co.uk/about.html Just sayin -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Brendan MacRae wrote: I went to drop three rolls of 220 E-6 at Cali-Color in Sacramento today only to be told they no longer process E-6. Same story all over I guess. The lady gave me a list of places that still do E-6 though one is in San Francisco, one is in Santa Cruz, and one is in San Clemente! I guess Pardees will accept E-6 but they send it out (to San Clemente). I still use AI in LA, at least when I have some of their pre-paid mailers. Explain, please. ...when I have some... is unclear. Where do you get them? From AI themselves? ANd, did you mean L.A. instead of LA? LA's Louisiana. I am about to ramp up my film use again, and need to get up to speed on who does what here in L.A. At least 3 local camera stores have gone out of business in the last couple of years. I need to know who's close to Venice, CA area... Thanks, keith whaley So, the only place I know of in Sacto that still does E-6 is Ace Photo @ 552 Fulton Street, Sacramento, CA 95825 916.482.4712. I dropped off my three rolls at around 11:30 and picked them up at 4:20PM. They look pretty good even though I was warned by the lady at Cali-Color that she, can't vouch for their quality. It's getting harder and harder to remain in the brotherhood :-( ... -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, but no. I've definitely moved on from doing any of my own processing. - Original Message From: Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 10:16:03 PM Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust May I interest you in borrowing my 2 reel 220 tank and 220 reels? Is the chemistry still available in quart or gallon sizes? On May 26, 2009, at 19:48 , Brendan MacRae wrote: I went to drop three rolls of 220 E-6 at Cali-Color in Sacramento today only to be told they no longer process E-6. Same story all over I guess. The lady gave me a list of places that still do E-6 though one is in San Francisco, one is in Santa Cruz, and one is in San Clemente! I guess Pardees will accept E-6 but they send it out (to San Clemente). I still use AI in LA, at least when I have some of their pre-paid mailers. So, the only place I know of in Sacto that still does E-6 is Ace Photo @ 552 Fulton Street, Sacramento, CA 95825 916.482.4712. I dropped off my three rolls at around 11:30 and picked them up at 4:20PM. They look pretty good even though I was warned by the lady at Cali-Color that she, can't vouch for their quality. It's getting harder and harder to remain in the brotherhood :-( ... If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote: I went to drop three rolls of 220 E-6 at Cali-Color in Sacramento today only to be told they no longer process E-6. Same story all over I guess. The lady gave me a list of places that still do E-6 though one is in San Francisco, one is in Santa Cruz, and one is in San Clemente! I guess Pardees will accept E-6 but they send it out (to San Clemente). I still use AI in LA, at least when I have some of their pre-paid mailers. So, the only place I know of in Sacto that still does E-6 is Ace Photo @ 552 Fulton Street, Sacramento, CA 95825 916.482.4712. I dropped off my three rolls at around 11:30 and picked them up at 4:20PM. They look pretty good even though I was warned by the lady at Cali-Color that she, can't vouch for their quality. It's getting harder and harder to remain in the brotherhood :-( ... -Brendan Kodak Ektar 100 is your friend. Now available in 120. -Adam -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5/27/09, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Kodak Ektar 100 is your friend. Now available in 120. Woohoo! I know what's going in the Holga next! Thanks, Adam. -- Scott Loveless Cigarette-free since December 14th, 2008 http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kodak Ektar 100 is your friend. Now available in 120. -Adam Hmmm. They've brought back the Ektar moniker, huh? Interesting...I should like to shoot and scan. I wonder... -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, those are the signs of the times. I unloaded my 2 67ii bodies and lenses back when there was still pretty good value. I felt that over time, film would diminish in usage and that the labs would cease to process the film due to cost effectiveness. My own local lab in a suburb or Sacramento (Roseville), is still doing C41, but just barely. I'll have to ask if they do any E-6 anymore. If they do, I bet it is no more than once a week. The cost of film processing will continue to rise until almost nobody will use it anymore. I think it will become a home based process in the future. It does make it frustrating when shooting those beautiful medium format bodies, but that is the way it goes. I'm glad I moved out of the format and film when I did. I have been more than happy since then. -- Bruce Tuesday, May 26, 2009, 7:48:37 PM, you wrote: BM I went to drop three rolls of 220 E-6 at Cali-Color in Sacramento BM today only to be told they no longer process E-6. Same story all BM over I guess. The lady gave me a list of places that still do E-6 BM though one is in San Francisco, one is in Santa Cruz, and one is BM in San Clemente! I guess Pardees will accept E-6 but they send it BM out (to San Clemente). I still use AI in LA, at least when I have some of their pre-paid mailers. BM So, the only place I know of in Sacto that still does E-6 is Ace BM Photo @ 552 Fulton Street, Sacramento, CA 95825 916.482.4712. I BM dropped off my three rolls at around 11:30 and picked them up at BM 4:20PM. They look pretty good even though I was warned by the lady BM at Cali-Color that she, can't vouch for their quality. BM It's getting harder and harder to remain in the brotherhood :-( ... BM -Brendan BM BM -- BM PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List BM PDML@pdml.net BM http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net BM to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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- Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Another one bites the dust I went to drop three rolls of 220 E-6 at Cali-Color in Sacramento today only to be told they no longer process E-6. Same story all over I guess. The lady gave me a list of places that still do E-6 though one is in San Francisco, one is in Santa Cruz, and one is in San Clemente! I guess Pardees will accept E-6 but they send it out (to San Clemente). I still use AI in LA, at least when I have some of their pre-paid mailers. So, the only place I know of in Sacto that still does E-6 is Ace Photo @ 552 Fulton Street, Sacramento, CA 95825 916.482.4712. I dropped off my three rolls at around 11:30 and picked them up at 4:20PM. They look pretty good even though I was warned by the lady at Cali-Color that she, can't vouch for their quality. It's getting harder and harder to remain in the brotherhood :-( ... Film is right on schedule. Another couple of years, we'll stick a fork in it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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May I interest you in borrowing my 2 reel 220 tank and 220 reels? Is the chemistry still available in quart or gallon sizes? On May 26, 2009, at 19:48 , Brendan MacRae wrote: I went to drop three rolls of 220 E-6 at Cali-Color in Sacramento today only to be told they no longer process E-6. Same story all over I guess. The lady gave me a list of places that still do E-6 though one is in San Francisco, one is in Santa Cruz, and one is in San Clemente! I guess Pardees will accept E-6 but they send it out (to San Clemente). I still use AI in LA, at least when I have some of their pre-paid mailers. So, the only place I know of in Sacto that still does E-6 is Ace Photo @ 552 Fulton Street, Sacramento, CA 95825 916.482.4712. I dropped off my three rolls at around 11:30 and picked them up at 4:20PM. They look pretty good even though I was warned by the lady at Cali-Color that she, can't vouch for their quality. It's getting harder and harder to remain in the brotherhood :-( ... If it doesn’t excite you, This thing that you see, Why in the world, Would it excite me? —Jay Maisel Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. William, It seems like you are doing what you want to do. This is the way to go for you. So will you be a man of leisure at GFMtn? César; I finish my lab job this Friday. Immediately, I am diving into a bathroom I have been farting around with since the middle of February, Glad to hear you restricted that behaviour to the bathroom, Bill ;) This gives me about two weeks to get this room to the point where I can walk away for the week and a half I plan to spend driving to GFM and back. I'm trying to find a place on the map where I can get for little or no money so you can pick me up and take me to GFM - drop me off at Graywolfs to crash on his couch or hide me in your car so I can sneak into camp :) :) I know you won't detour to NYC - it's a city annsan - longing for GFM What's leisure? William Robb
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I don't think you have to hide just ride in with him. However whether you could manage to stay is up in the air. They have made a lot of changes, for instance I no longer get a pass, and I understand they will be checking on campers unlike in the past. As I understand it, this is mostly because Hugh has retired and it is being run by more money is important family members. I wonder if they realize they never had a full house until PDML members started meeting there? I hope to drop in to visit one day, probably Friday, but that is all I can afford to pay the gate for. I know things change, but it would be nice if they changed for the better, rather than the worse, more often. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Ann Sanfedele wrote: William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. William, It seems like you are doing what you want to do. This is the way to go for you. So will you be a man of leisure at GFMtn? César; I finish my lab job this Friday. Immediately, I am diving into a bathroom I have been farting around with since the middle of February, Glad to hear you restricted that behaviour to the bathroom, Bill ;) This gives me about two weeks to get this room to the point where I can walk away for the week and a half I plan to spend driving to GFM and back. I'm trying to find a place on the map where I can get for little or no money so you can pick me up and take me to GFM - drop me off at Graywolfs to crash on his couch or hide me in your car so I can sneak into camp :) :) I know you won't detour to NYC - it's a city annsan - longing for GFM What's leisure? William Robb
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On 5/8/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip What's leisure? I've been following this thread with some interest, then realized that I haven't thrown in my two cents. All the best in whatever you end up doing, Bill. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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... and will keep me working until September, when I go to BC and teach Tom Cakalic about the wonders of 4x5 slides, providing he is able to make it up for a weekend. I am hoping to be able to take a lab on the road, and process the slides, scan them and print them right at the campground. What's leisure? William Robb You never know who's reading this list do you? I certainly hope I can make it and will try. Tom C.
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William, It seems like you are doing what you want to do. This is the way to go for you. So will you be a man of leisure at GFMtn? All the best, César Panama City, Florida William Robb wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb
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David J Brooks wrote: Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. William Robb Got out before the urine test eh.:-) Seriously Bill. I hope everything works out for you. Sometimes a change is good as a rest they say. GFM bound Sir.?? I'v hated my survey job for 33 years. Maybe one day... Dave Equine Photography in York Region Interesting Dave, I have always said that the week that I awake twice with the question as to why I am actually going into work is the sign that I need to change. As of this point in time I have yet to have that happen - even with the fact that I have not been on the road for almost two decades. 25 years with the same 'company' in August, César Panama City, Florida
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two decades. 25 years with the same 'company' in August, César Panama City, Florida Rookie.vbg Dave
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- Original Message - From: Cesar Matamoros II Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. William, It seems like you are doing what you want to do. This is the way to go for you. So will you be a man of leisure at GFMtn? César; I finish my lab job this Friday. Immediately, I am diving into a bathroom I have been farting around with since the middle of February, and just ripped the floor out of for the second time to make way for a change that we agreed was worth the effort. This gives me about two weeks to get this room to the point where I can walk away for the week and a half I plan to spend driving to GFM and back. I can spend no more than a week after GFM on this project before I ~have~ to move on to the next one, which is a fairly major renovation, and will keep me working until September, when I go to BC and teach Tom Cakalic about the wonders of 4x5 slides, providing he is able to make it up for a weekend. I am hoping to be able to take a lab on the road, and process the slides, scan them and print them right at the campground. What's leisure? William Robb
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Hi Bill, Sorry to hear about your situation. I wish you all the best of luck in finding something better. Glad to see that your're not too worried. Rgds Patrick On 5/2/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb -- Regards Patrick Genovese
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On 5/4/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heck, this frees me up to do all sorts of meaningfull things. Like get my basement cleaned out and build a darkroom and sauna. That's great. Wish I could have a darkroom but apartments have too little room as it is. Cheers, Gautam
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I hope that your immediate plans work out well and that you are able to work meaningfully in photography again if you choose. Cheers, Gautam On 5/2/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb
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Good Luck, Mr. Robb You mentioned there's a few things on your job plate for the next few months. Photo related? -Lon
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- Original Message - From: Gautam Sarup Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. I hope that your immediate plans work out well and that you are able to work meaningfully in photography again if you choose. Heck, this frees me up to do all sorts of meaningfull things. Like get my basement cleaned out and build a darkroom and sauna. Working in a one hour photo lab in a Wal-Mart can be described as a lot of things, some positive, but it is not meaningful work in photography. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: Lon Williamson Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Good Luck, Mr. Robb You mentioned there's a few things on your job plate for the next few months. Photo related? Were you talking to my Dad? He's Mr. Robb. Or was. Anyway Nothing immediate, except for a trip to North Carolina, but i do think i will be rebuilding my darkroom over the winter. I have a nice Beseler 4x5 colour enlarger that I haven't even plugged in yet. Thanks for the good wishes. Actually, to save some bandwidth, thanks to everyone who has expressed encouragement, I do appreciate it. William Robb
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On Tue, 2 May 2006, William Robb wrote: Digital imaging has done a few things to the industry, none of them positive. It has put a lot of the quality control squarely in the lap of the customer, who doesn't want the responsibility, Amen. Good luck in your new venture. Kostas
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Even that's only partially true! One mid-rank manager in a department store group I once worked for came in one day and was jobless by the end of it - simply because he wouldn't swear unconditional support for the store director... John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Wal-Mart? The only incentive to stay they have is if no one else would hire you. Mass merchandisers mass merchandise everything including employees. Any position short of the store manager they figure can be replaced by the next person who walks in the door. The only reason the store manager can't be is he does the hiring. graywolf
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On May 3, 2006, at 5:26 PM, graywolf wrote: One Sunday, Best Buy gave me a MVP award in the morning and fired me in the afternoon. I certainly can't top that... For me I think it was about a week between receiving a bottle of wine at the monthly staff meeting and being made redundant. - Dave
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William Robb wrote: Really, the lab industry has been in decline for a very long time. It used to be staffed by photographers looking to supplement their incomes, snip Now it is staffed by people who weren't fast enough to be cashiers. Makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time because it's true...
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Good luck with all future endeavors William! Anyway, a few friends and I are going to renovate houses for fun and profit. Below the border here we have a cable TV show all about house purchase/renovation/sale. They call the process flipping. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 6:24 PM Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Same here, Bill. It's good to see such events as opportunity rather than negatives. Thank you!! Just to make sure the record is straight, this was my decision, not theirs. I just decided I couldn't stand to work another summer in what has become a really frustrating business. Anyway, a few friends and I are going to renovate houses for fun and profit. William Robb
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William Robb wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. I know exactly how you feel. I watched the shop here in Pittsburgh go the same way last year (at just about this time, too). :( Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. Glad to hear you aren't that worried. Best of luck. Let me know in the unlikely event that there's anything I can do for you.
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On May 2, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: William Robb wrote: Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. Glad to hear you aren't that worried. Best of luck. Let me know in the unlikely event that there's anything I can do for you. Same here, Bill. It's good to see such events as opportunity rather than negatives. Godfrey
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Good of you to take it in such good spirits, Bill. I'm sure, as you make it sound, that this will be for the better. j On 5/2/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb -- Juan Buhler Check out my book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html Water Molotov: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com Slippery Slope: http://color.jbuhler.com
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Good luck, Bill, although I suspect you've got your next move planned and worked out.. I suppose it may have been painful witnessing some of the changes in the industry, and especially in the areas that are close to you. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. Glad to hear you aren't that worried. Best of luck. Let me know in the unlikely event that there's anything I can do for you. Same here, Bill. It's good to see such events as opportunity rather than negatives.
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Damn missing posts! Not quite sure of what this is about. If it is what it seems, I hope that it turns out to be a big opportunity for your future, Bill. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future.
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I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. I was forced last September to take an early retirement. The freedom since then has been exhilirating. I now have two other jobs, a nascent business, and a retirement check coming in. I'll probably take three overseas trips this year, all paid for by other people. Life after termination is good. My only complaint is not enough time for photography. It is a shock and an insult to be terminated, Bill, but you will be okay. You may even be better off. Let us know what comes next, and best wishes. Joe
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welcome to the club. i am going to be unemployed as of tomorrow. best, mishka On 5/2/06, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb
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Hope you find an enjoyable and prosperous future Bill. The best Powell At 11:30 AM 02/05/2006 , you wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb
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William Robb wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. Best of luck Bill. I'm certain it's their loss and to your advantage. Malcolm
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Bill, someone wanted to see my resume a few weeks ago, and when I assembled it I realized that all the places I've worked in the past 20 years no longer exist. It was vaguely depressing. Enjoy yourself. -Aaron
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- Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Same here, Bill. It's good to see such events as opportunity rather than negatives. Thank you!! Just to make sure the record is straight, this was my decision, not theirs. I just decided I couldn't stand to work another summer in what has become a really frustrating business. Anyway, a few friends and I are going to renovate houses for fun and profit. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: jtainter Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. It is a shock and an insult to be terminated, Bill, but you will be okay. You may even be better off. Let us know what comes next, and best wishes. I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: Aaron Reynolds Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Bill, someone wanted to see my resume a few weeks ago, and when I assembled it I realized that all the places I've worked in the past 20 years no longer exist. It was vaguely depressing. Yup, I know the feeling. King Size Photo lab, Kroma Kolor photo lab (bad name, good results), Chas Abel Photo Service (Calgary), Astral Photo, 50 Minute Photo are all places I worked that are gone now. William Robb
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I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. That way's the most fun! I take it the you vent your frustrations here on the list and not at work. ;-) I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. Tsk Tsk. William Robb Tom C.
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- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. That way's the most fun! I take it the you vent your frustrations here on the list and not at work. If I get fired from the PDML, all I lose is a few hours in front of the computer... William Robb
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On May 2, 2006, at 3:24 PM, William Robb wrote: Thank you!! Just to make sure the record is straight, this was my decision, not theirs. I just decided I couldn't stand to work another summer in what has become a really frustrating business. Anyway, a few friends and I are going to renovate houses for fun and profit. Thanks for the clarification ... That's even better. :-) Godfrey
Re: Another one bites the dust.
In a message dated 5/2/2006 11:36:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb A. Sorry about that. Bummer. OTOH, from the things you have said over the last two years or so you haven't been enjoying it much anyway. In fact, you've implied it's become more and more of a PITA. :-) Glad you are not concerned about the future. I guess that means that you have some ideas about what you are going to do. Here's wishing you a BIG sense of relief when all it is all over. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Another one bites the dust.
In a message dated 5/2/2006 3:33:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. William Robb === Cool. And it makes more sense. Being the (super) star and all. Good luck. Marnie aka Doe :-)
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Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. William Robb Got out before the urine test eh.:-) Seriously Bill. I hope everything works out for you. Sometimes a change is good as a rest they say. GFM bound Sir.?? I'v hated my survey job for 33 years. Maybe one day... Dave Equine Photography in York Region
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William Robb wrote: As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. William Robb whoa! Now are you going to spend more time on the road on the way to GFM? I read a whole bunch of other posts before I started this one of mine - so I see you quit the job (in disgust, I gather) Too bad you are too young for the Canadian equivalent of soscial security :) take care, ann
Re: Another one bites the dust.
I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. Ah...they should have treated you better, given you an incentive to stay. Joe
Re: Another one bites the dust.
In a message dated 5/2/2006 7:09:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. Ah...they should have treated you better, given you an incentive to stay. Joe They probably couldn't come up with the moola to buy him a small Caribbean island. Marnie aka Doe ;-)
Re: Another one bites the dust.
- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Too bad you are too young for the Canadian equivalent of social security :) We have a thing here called welfare. No one goes hungry. Not that I intend to make use of the system. I already have jobs lined up that will take me well into the fall, and should pay me somewhere around 3x what I was earning as a wage slave, and will allow me to deduct things from my income, such as that pretty red truck that I am so fond of. Overall, life is looking pretty good at the moment. William Robb
Re: Another one bites the dust.
- Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Ah...they should have treated you better, given you an incentive to stay. Tripling my wage, and make every customer pass an intelligence test before they get to talk to me would have gone a long way. Really, the lab industry has been in decline for a very long time. It used to be staffed by photographers looking to suplement their incomes, and derive the benefit of doing their own work on someone elses nickel. It's how I got into it. Now it is staffed by people who weren't fast enough to be cashiers. None of my co-workers are looking at the industry as a long term employment opportunity, with the consequence that they are not interested in learning all that they need to know to excell at it. I'm not even sure at this point if the industry is really viable in the long haul. Digital imaging has done a few things to the industry, none of them positive. It has put a lot of the quality control squarely in the lap of the customer, who doesn't want the responsibility, and it has taken a lot of the quality control potential away from the lab. Interestingly, digital printing has been, in many ways, a boon to film printing, since now we can control things that we could not control before without an enlarger and some serious work. Unfortunately, film use is in freefall, so the customer is not seeing the potential benefits, they have switched to digital capture. Anyway, it's late and I have a belly full of whisky. William Robb
Re: Another one bites the dust.
Hi! As most of you know, the life of a photofinisher has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. The business has been taken over by large chain stores who treat the industry as just another department, and now is dealing with the fallout of poorly trained big box store sales staff, and the failings of the computer industry. For the past few years, it has been like watching an old friend die. Consequently, I will be unemployed as of the 12th of May. And not at all unhappy or concerned about the future. *Deep Sigh* At least you're keeping your spirits high, Bill... Best of luck to you. Boris
Re: Another one bites the dust.
Hi! Just to make sure the record is straight, this was my decision, not theirs. I just decided I couldn't stand to work another summer in what has become a really frustrating business. Anyway, a few friends and I are going to renovate houses for fun and profit. Why did not you put the clarification into original post? ;-) Never thought house renovation can be fun, but you may as well change my opinion. Boris
Re: Another one bites the dust.
Wal-Mart? The only incentive to stay they have is if no one else would hire you. Mass merchandisers mass merchandise everything including employees. Any position short of the store manager they figure can be replaced by the next person who walks in the door. The only reason the store manager can't be is he does the hiring. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Joseph Tainter wrote: I should have been more clear. I handed my resignation to my store manager last Monday. Blind sided them, really, as it was out of the blue as far as they were concerned. I feel kinda guilty actually, just before summer and their star attraction is walking away. Ah...they should have treated you better, given you an incentive to stay. Joe
Re: Another one bites the dust.
- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Why did not you put the clarification into original post? ;-) It's fun to let people think that what they thought all along may be true? Never thought house renovation can be fun, but you may as well change my opinion. Believe it or not, it shares many things with the lab industry from a few years back. Craftsmanship is still a desirable trait, the customers accept that it takes time to do a quality job, and creativity is stll desirable. If they can do it themselves they will, so I only talk to people who actually need my help, and DeWalt makes some really cool stuff.. Seriously, the work can be punishingly hard on the body, but there is tremendous satisfaction in making things work for people, and being able to improve their lives. It also pays better. William Robb
Re: Another one bites the dust.
- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Wal-Mart? The only incentive to stay they have is if no one else would hire you. Mass merchandisers mass merchandise everything including employees. Any position short of the store manager they figure can be replaced by the next person who walks in the door. The only reason the store manager can't be is he does the hiring. Honestly Tom, that's not the Wal-Mart I work for. Keeping in mind that the work is retail sales, and consequently one will never get rich working for them, they aren't a bad company to work for. In many ways, Wal-mart is the best employer I have had in the 30 years I have been in the workforce. I'm leaving an industry that no longer gives me what I need to stay working in it, it wouldn't matter who was cutting my paycheque, it's just time to move on. William Robb
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Must be a different company in Canada. By the way the worst I came across was Circuit City, I quit that job before they hired me. One Sunday, Best Buy gave me a MVP award in the morning and fired me in the afternoon. I have worked for retailers who paid living wages, so that is not a one to one thing like you seem to think either. Retailing can be fun or it can be hell. It pretty much depends on the store manager, if they change managers you could find yourself to be working in an entirely different atmosphere over night. I wish you luck in your new endeavors. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust. Wal-Mart? The only incentive to stay they have is if no one else would hire you. Mass merchandisers mass merchandise everything including employees. Any position short of the store manager they figure can be replaced by the next person who walks in the door. The only reason the store manager can't be is he does the hiring. Honestly Tom, that's not the Wal-Mart I work for. Keeping in mind that the work is retail sales, and consequently one will never get rich working for them, they aren't a bad company to work for. In many ways, Wal-mart is the best employer I have had in the 30 years I have been in the workforce. I'm leaving an industry that no longer gives me what I need to stay working in it, it wouldn't matter who was cutting my paycheque, it's just time to move on. William Robb
Re: Another one bites the dust
8-( In the UK, most peoples' house contents insurance would cover that. I'd put in for the 28-80/2.8... From: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/04/03 Mon AM 12:50:55 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Another one bites the dust T.V. having left us a while ago, I guess I feel the need to take over his roll as chief Pentax equipment destroyer. In today's episode, we again featured the *ist D but this time with a different leading lady. My SMC-F 35-80 lens was actually broken in half! The D suffered a dislodged flash and a chip in the body right at the front of the flash. I was able to get the flash tucked back in and everything appears to be working right so far. The camera was on the kitchen counter (sort of a bar-type counter with some high stools on one side) when Kid-2 managed to tip over the stool. In her effort to keep herself from falling she reached out and grabbed for the stability, only managing to snatch the camera off the counter. I did not witness this. Wife, looking rather sheepish, not knowing how I would react, called me to the garage for consultation away from our various house guests. It was ok. I'm bummed but at least it wasn't a 77 Limited or something expensive. And the camera has managed to survive again. Cory Be careful out there. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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Wow! graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- cbwaters wrote: T.V. having left us a while ago, I guess I feel the need to take over his roll as chief Pentax equipment destroyer. In today's episode, we again featured the *ist D but this time with a different leading lady. My SMC-F 35-80 lens was actually broken in half! The D suffered a dislodged flash and a chip in the body right at the front of the flash. I was able to get the flash tucked back in and everything appears to be working right so far. The camera was on the kitchen counter (sort of a bar-type counter with some high stools on one side) when Kid-2 managed to tip over the stool. In her effort to keep herself from falling she reached out and grabbed for the stability, only managing to snatch the camera off the counter. I did not witness this. Wife, looking rather sheepish, not knowing how I would react, called me to the garage for consultation away from our various house guests. It was ok. I'm bummed but at least it wasn't a 77 Limited or something expensive. And the camera has managed to survive again. Cory Be careful out there.
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I remember the time my cat - suffering from a bladder infection - took a leak on top of my camera bag. The contents survived. The bag did not. -- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another one bites the dust
Camera managed to survive, so that's a plus. I have a junk SMC F 35-80 you're welcome to. Eric said something about the helicoil not being so good. Regards, Bob S. On 4/2/06, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: T.V. having left us a while ago, I guess I feel the need to take over his roll as chief Pentax equipment destroyer. In today's episode, we again featured the *ist D but this time with a different leading lady. My SMC-F 35-80 lens was actually broken in half! The D suffered a dislodged flash and a chip in the body right at the front of the flash. I was able to get the flash tucked back in and everything appears to be working right so far. The camera was on the kitchen counter (sort of a bar-type counter with some high stools on one side) when Kid-2 managed to tip over the stool. In her effort to keep herself from falling she reached out and grabbed for the stability, only managing to snatch the camera off the counter. I did not witness this. Wife, looking rather sheepish, not knowing how I would react, called me to the garage for consultation away from our various house guests. It was ok. I'm bummed but at least it wasn't a 77 Limited or something expensive. And the camera has managed to survive again. Cory Be careful out there.
Re: another one bites the dust...
Cory, They are only things. Buy another. Regards, Bob S. On 9/18/05, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my recent journey to northern Michigan I had yet another run-in with gravity and impact. This time it was my Super Program and A-50/2. I'd carried the camera on the flight with me and jammed it into the backpack while we were landing because it needed to be under the seat or some such per the flight attendant. Unfortunately, the pack didn't get totally zipped I guess since the camera plopped out onto the parking lot as we were trying to fit six people and luggage in to my moms four person car. On initial inspection, it didn't look bad but later, when I tried to use it, the lens wouldn't focus. I noticed a dent in the filter ring and I guess it landed hard enough to chunk the lens's internals. Now, this isn't an expensive lens but it WAS part of the kit that I received that started me down this Pentaxian road... and I liked it. It's the third or fourth lens that I've wrecked in the few years I've been shooting and it pisses me off. I feel like I've let these things down with my lapses of concentration or judgement and allowed them to come to harm. Anyway, I guess my self loathing rant is over. Be careful out there Cory -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005
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Bad luck. But there's always a silver lining. It's a good excuse to buy a 1.4. John On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:46:37 +0100, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cory, They are only things. Buy another. Regards, Bob S. On 9/18/05, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my recent journey to northern Michigan I had yet another run-in with gravity and impact. This time it was my Super Program and A-50/2. I'd carried the camera on the flight with me and jammed it into the backpack while we were landing because it needed to be under the seat or some such per the flight attendant. Unfortunately, the pack didn't get totally zipped I guess since the camera plopped out onto the parking lot as we were trying to fit six people and luggage in to my moms four person car. On initial inspection, it didn't look bad but later, when I tried to use it, the lens wouldn't focus. I noticed a dent in the filter ring and I guess it landed hard enough to chunk the lens's internals. Now, this isn't an expensive lens but it WAS part of the kit that I received that started me down this Pentaxian road... and I liked it. It's the third or fourth lens that I've wrecked in the few years I've been shooting and it pisses me off. I feel like I've let these things down with my lapses of concentration or judgement and allowed them to come to harm. Anyway, I guess my self loathing rant is over. Be careful out there Cory -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 16/09/2005
Re: another one bites the dust...
And another...and another... My motor drive A finally died while I was in London, Ontario the past few weeks. I bought it from another listmember several years ago. It ran well for the first year, then the shutter switch started behaving erratically...sometimes firing...sometimes not. I took it in for an estimate a few weeks ago and the guy told me that he would not touch it because it was too difficult to fix. So I kept using it...and now it's pretty well ceased functioning altogether. Next, the shutter release button on my BG-10 grip suddenly fell off for no apparent reason! It's still under warranty so it's going back to Pentax. OTOH, the Super Program and 645 are beautiful... :^) -- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: another one bites the dust...
In a message dated 9/18/2005 6:30:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway, I guess my self loathing rant is over. Be careful out there Cory == Bummer. Marnie aka Doe
Re: Another one bites the dust
BTW, can anybody tell me why the messages I send to the list from Outlook Express get kicked back to me? This is the first week I've used Outlook Express, and it takes some getting used to. Maybe you are sending HTML messages, rather than plain text messages...??? Fred
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On 16/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: There seem to be a fair amount of Brits here on the forum. Do you guys outnumber the Yanks now? I went to school in London and miss the place now and again. Hi Bill, Cotty here. Brit. On the list since 1998 - I don't recall you from recent times, so you must hale from pre-1998? I don't think we outnumber the Yanks, not by a long shot. Don't count that traitor Roberts - he knows if he comes back here again he's for the tower !! BTW, can anybody tell me why the messages I send to the list from Outlook Express get kicked back to me? This is the first week I've used Outlook Express, and it takes some getting used to. Plain text messages only IIRC, it can be set somewhere in your preferences (don't ask me, I'm a Mac user and only know where the 'on' switch is). Best regards always, and happy shooting. -Bill Cornett Cheerio, same to you :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
RE: Another one bites the dust
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:19 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Another one bites the dust The photos and item descriptions of the sale items should be done and the auctions started by tomorrow evening. Items include a PZ-1P with Tamron 35-70, a black MX body in pretty decent shape, a 100 f2.8 Macro (the big, 600-gram autofocus, not the newer digitally optimized), a 70-200 f4-5.6 (amazingly sharp), manual focus 28mm 2.8 SMC and 50mm 1.4 SMC, an AF500FTZ, plus ded. ext cord, an elec. cable release for the PZ, and even a couple of pieces of old N gear. There's also a custom lens shade for a 3.5/28mm that clamps onto the outside of the lens barrel, in mint condition (but I don't have that particular lens). Let us know when they're up, that lens shade sounds good. There seem to be a fair amount of Brits here on the forum. Do you guys outnumber the Yanks now? I went to school in London and miss the place now and again. BTW, can anybody tell me why the messages I send to the list from Outlook Express get kicked back to me? This is the first week I've used Outlook Express, and it takes some getting used to. In the message window choose Format and Plain Text, the PDML server will not accept enhanced text of any kind. Best regards always, and happy shooting. -Bill Cornett Don
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Output express sends mail in rtf format IIRC by default. The list only accepts ASCII, any mail with an attachment is returned to sender. You'll have to configure outlook express to send text only. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no problem with posting For Sale items or links to your own eBay auctions here. Do you still have a web site? I'd been wondering what you were up to... 20--20 Mark Roberts Photography and writing Ah ha! I now have permission! Gamma picked up my option a couple of years back, and between them and my repeat customers I really haven't had the need to promote until recently. I switched Internet providers a while back, and didn't crank up the site again after I determined that it didn't bring in any customers, just other photogs chasing after my client list and people ripping off my images. I have a catalog of Acrobat promotional pages that I email off to prospects if they request it. But I think that the landscape has changed recently, and a good site would be of benefit, so I'm starting to design one and hope to have it online in a couple of months. In the meantime, I made Life Magazine's The Year In Pictures issue (alas, with an Olympus digital and Nikon film cameras) a couple of years ago, coverage of the Beltway Sniper that happened all around the house I was living in at the time. Also got a bit of coverage of European royalty visiting DC in various mags here and on your side of the pond, among many other assignments. It's been fun and interesting. The photos and item descriptions of the sale items should be done and the auctions started by tomorrow evening. Items include a PZ-1P with Tamron 35-70, a black MX body in pretty decent shape, a 100 f2.8 Macro (the big, 600-gram autofocus, not the newer digitally optimized), a 70-200 f4-5.6 (amazingly sharp), manual focus 28mm 2.8 SMC and 50mm 1.4 SMC, an AF500FTZ, plus ded. ext cord, an elec. cable release for the PZ, and even a couple of pieces of old N gear. There's also a custom lens shade for a 3.5/28mm that clamps onto the outside of the lens barrel, in mint condition (but I don't have that particular lens). There seem to be a fair amount of Brits here on the forum. Do you guys outnumber the Yanks now? I went to school in London and miss the place now and again. BTW, can anybody tell me why the messages I send to the list from Outlook Express get kicked back to me? This is the first week I've used Outlook Express, and it takes some getting used to. Best regards always, and happy shooting. -Bill Cornett -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout).
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On 15/8/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: Also, I usually restrict my sales to U.S. orders only (I really hate filling out those customs forms), but if there is enough interest from the non-U.S. members of this forum, I certainly would not want to exclude people who have the good taste to consider Pentax a worthwhile product. That's okay, as the non-US members of this forum outnumber the US members, so go right ahead. Have a nice day. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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Bill, great to hear from you! There's no problem with posting For Sale items or links to your own eBay auctions here. Do you still have a web site? I'd been wondering what you were up to... -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Another one bites the dust.. lost customers
They advertice the EOS 300D as Enthusiats Kit! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. juni 2004 02:58 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Another one bites the dust.. lost customers On 26 Jun 2004 at 14:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, A California electronics retailer has just opened a giant (200,000 square foot) store in Chicago. They have a big selection of computers, stereos, etc. plus I found an aisle of digital cameras - including the Optio s4i and S40. When I walked around the other side of the aisle, I found three '35mm' digitals. A Canon Rebel, a 10D, and a *ist! So there is hope for Pentax yet... Regards, You can find 300Ds in local shopping centre photo stores here, finding a *ist D on a shelf is much harder to find, then there is the not insignificant price differential. The following link is to the DSLR page of a pretty competitive city retailer: http://www.teds.com.au/www/94/1001102/displayproductcategory/1005803%2ehtml Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: Another one bites the dust.. lost customers
On 27 Jun 2004 at 19:34, Jens Bladt wrote: They advertice the EOS 300D as Enthusiats Kit! Down the bottom of the page they also have a Canon EOS 300D Super Kit at AU$1,849.95 whereas the equivalent Pentax *ist-D/Sigma 18-50 Kit is AU$2,499.95. Unfortunately due to the conflicting interests of the Pentax/Sigma importer it's rare to see a Pentax boy here which isn't coupled to a Sigma lens. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
