Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-07 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 What about your lungs? /ducks for cover/

For the record, I quit smoking about 7 or 8 years ago.

When I stopped smoking, I noticed that I breathed easier on my bike -
not as big a difference as I expected, but it was noticeable.

I'm not a zealot about it:  if one wishes to smoke, that's up to them.
 I'm glad for myself that I quit.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-07 Thread Boris Liberman

On 10/7/2010 12:58 PM, frank theriault wrote:

For the record, I quit smoking about 7 or 8 years ago.

When I stopped smoking, I noticed that I breathed easier on my bike -
not as big a difference as I expected, but it was noticeable.

I'm not a zealot about it:  if one wishes to smoke, that's up to them.
  I'm glad for myself that I quit.


I am glad for you that you quit ;-).

Boris


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RE: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread Bob W
  nice shot - that's not a fag in his mouth though or is it?
 
 I always find the combination of bicycling and smoking to be a bit of a
 cognitive dissonance, as out here in the boonies where bikes aren't very
 practical transportation they seem to be mostly a toy used by people
trying
 to get in shape. Exactly the sort of people who don't smoke.

over here in Yurp a lot of people still use bikes because it's the only
practical transport they can afford. They'd dump the bikes as soon as they
could afford to. I often see people pedalling slowly along the road enjoying
a nice fag. I agree about the cognitive dissonance - I always find it
surprising. A lot of them are surprisingly fast cyclists though. They remind
me of the old grandmother in Belleville Rendezvous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHB_dzJOk4U

B


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RE: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread Bob W
 No big whoop, just a slice of messenger life:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/10/race-prep.html
 

that's a lovely atmospheric shot.

B


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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread David J Brooks
I like this one.
The smoke in his mouth, the concentration, and the strewn about bike
wheels make for an interesting shot.

Dave

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 So in another thread I talked a bit about Alleycat races, messenger
 races through city streets through regular traffic.

 Basically you pay a couple of bucks (usually $10) and that goes into a
 kitty for the winner along with donated prizes from courier-friendly
 businesses.

 There are a series of checkpoints which are disclosed just prior to
 the race.  Usually the finish point is kept secret until the last
 minute, too.  You go to the checkpoints in any order you want, route
 yourself any way you want.  As long as you get to the final checkpoint
 with signatures for each one on your manifest, you've finished.  Most
 races are between 15 and 30 miles long.

 So here's Brian, moments after having received his manifest, figuring
 out which order he'll do them in.  Routing is usually determined on
 the fly according to traffic flow, etc.

 No big whoop, just a slice of messenger life:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/10/race-prep.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 Leica CL, 40mm f2.0 Summicron, TriX, low-rez scan.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread Boris Liberman

On 10/6/2010 12:35 AM, frank theriault wrote:

No big whoop, just a slice of messenger life:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/10/race-prep.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

Leica CL, 40mm f2.0 Summicron, TriX, low-rez scan.


Frank, just the other day I was standing by the reception desk of our 
company and a man walked in - evidently he was a bike messenger. I 
immediately though of you... If you hiccuped at that moment, I am not 
guilty :-).


Is this guy holding a cigarette in his mouth???

Boris

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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:


 Frank, just the other day I was standing by the reception desk of our
 company and a man walked in - evidently he was a bike messenger. I
 immediately though of you... If you hiccuped at that moment, I am not guilty
 :-).

 Is this guy holding a cigarette in his mouth???

Oddly, lots of messengers smoke.  I used to smoke.  It's quite an art
smoking whilst riding fast.  You've kind of got to keep your head up,
tilt a bit to the right and hang the cigarette just so out the
corner of your mouth.  That way smoke and ashes get blown over your
shoulder and not into your face.

A significant number of messengers also smoke vast quantities of pot.
They smoke it during the day while they work.  It's thought that
smoking cigarettes gets rid of the pot smell.

Of course they're wrong.

I suppose that they also figure that since they're polluting the hell
out of their lungs with weed, a few ciggies won't do much more damage.

BTW, I didn't know they had bike messengers in Jerusalem.  Cool!

Thanks for the kind words from everyone.  Glad you enjoyed.

BTW, smoking on bikes is nothing new;  witness this old Tour de France photo:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads17/tour_de_france_old_passing_cigarette_smoke1279743847.jpg

cheers,
frank

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RE: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread Bob W
 BTW, smoking on bikes is nothing new;  witness this old Tour de France
 photo:
 
 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads17/tour_de_france_old_passing_cig
 arette_smoke1279743847.jpg
 
 cheers,
 frank

I love that photo. It's cheap wine in their bidons, too. Back in those days
they'd have been disqualified for effeminacy if they'd drunk water.

B


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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread eckinator
2010/10/6 Bob W p...@web-options.com:
 BTW, smoking on bikes is nothing new;  witness this old Tour de France
 photo:

 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads17/tour_de_france_old_passing_cig
 arette_smoke1279743847.jpg

 cheers,
 frank

 I love that photo. It's cheap wine in their bidons, too. Back in those days
 they'd have been disqualified for effeminacy if they'd drunk water.

brilliant... In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high,
men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures
from Alpha Centuari were real small furry creatures from Alpha
Centauri. And all dared to brave unknown terrors, to do mighty deeds,
to boldly split infinitives that no man had split before -- and thus
was the Empire forged.

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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-06 Thread Boris Liberman

On 10/6/2010 10:51 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Oddly, lots of messengers smoke.  I used to smoke.  It's quite an art
smoking whilst riding fast.  You've kind of got to keep your head up,
tilt a bit to the right and hang the cigarette just so out the
corner of your mouth.  That way smoke and ashes get blown over your
shoulder and not into your face.


What about your lungs? /ducks for cover/


A significant number of messengers also smoke vast quantities of pot.
They smoke it during the day while they work.  It's thought that
smoking cigarettes gets rid of the pot smell.

Of course they're wrong.


Hmmm


I suppose that they also figure that since they're polluting the hell
out of their lungs with weed, a few ciggies won't do much more damage.


Given the lung mode of operation when one is riding...


BTW, I didn't know they had bike messengers in Jerusalem.  Cool!


It is actually Tel Aviv ;-). I did not know that either, until a few 
days ago.


Boris

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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-05 Thread eckinator
nice shot - that's not a fag in his mouth though or is it?
thanks for sharing
ecke

2010/10/6 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com:
 So in another thread I talked a bit about Alleycat races, messenger
 races through city streets through regular traffic.

 Basically you pay a couple of bucks (usually $10) and that goes into a
 kitty for the winner along with donated prizes from courier-friendly
 businesses.

 There are a series of checkpoints which are disclosed just prior to
 the race.  Usually the finish point is kept secret until the last
 minute, too.  You go to the checkpoints in any order you want, route
 yourself any way you want.  As long as you get to the final checkpoint
 with signatures for each one on your manifest, you've finished.  Most
 races are between 15 and 30 miles long.

 So here's Brian, moments after having received his manifest, figuring
 out which order he'll do them in.  Routing is usually determined on
 the fly according to traffic flow, etc.

 No big whoop, just a slice of messenger life:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/10/race-prep.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

 Leica CL, 40mm f2.0 Summicron, TriX, low-rez scan.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: PESO - Race Prep

2010-10-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 5, 2010, at 5:32 PM, eckinator wrote:

 nice shot - that's not a fag in his mouth though or is it?

I always find the combination of bicycling and smoking to be a bit of a 
cognitive dissonance, as out here in the boonies where bikes aren't very 
practical transportation they seem to be mostly a toy used by people trying to 
get in shape. Exactly the sort of people who don't smoke.


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