Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-24 Thread Andre Langevin
 What about the old FA28-105 Power Zoom?


The old FA... !?!?

For me, anything FA is new.  Super-Takumar 70-150mm is old...

Just kidding.

Andre
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Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-24 Thread Mike Johnston
 some other
 real keepers include the M 200/4, which can frequently be found for less
 than $100 and the Super Multi Coated Takumar 300/4, which is
 magnificently sharp and sometimes sells for less than $200. Other
 bargains inclde the SMC Pentax (K) 28/3.5 and of course the SMC Pentax
 35/3.5.


I have to say, I can't focus the slow 28mms and 35mms, either M42 versions
or K versions. I had to get rid of mine.

Hence I can't agree to them being particularly good values.

(Still haven't found the diopters I need for my Spotmatic bodies.)

--Mike




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 some other
 real keepers include the M 200/4, which can frequently be found for less
 than $100 and the Super Multi Coated Takumar 300/4, which is
 magnificently sharp and sometimes sells for less than $200. Other
 bargains inclde the SMC Pentax (K) 28/3.5 and of course the SMC Pentax
 35/3.5.

I have to say, I can't focus the slow 28mms and 35mms, either M42 versions
or K versions. I had to get rid of mine.

Hence I can't agree to them being particularly good values.

Yeah, but you having to sell yours helps keep the prices down, making
them a better value for everyone else ;-)

(BTW: I do love my M28/3.5)

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-24 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Friday 24 January 2003 01:26, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 In that an M 135/3.5 can usually be found for about thte same price as a
 the K-Tak, I'd say it's not a good value.
 Paul


US$15.00 to $25.00 for the M135/3.5?

Christian




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-24 Thread Keith Whaley


Mike Johnston wrote:
 
  some other
  real keepers include the M 200/4, which can frequently be found for less
  than $100 and the Super Multi Coated Takumar 300/4, which is
  magnificently sharp and sometimes sells for less than $200. Other
  bargains inclde the SMC Pentax (K) 28/3.5 and of course the SMC Pentax
  35/3.5.
 
 I have to say, I can't focus the slow 28mms and 35mms, either M42 versions
 or K versions. I had to get rid of mine.

Is that because the depth of field is so great, it's hard to bracket
onto a good middle ground?
Do you find this true regardless of style of focusing screen?

keith
 
 Hence I can't agree to them being particularly good values.
 
 (Still haven't found the diopters I need for my Spotmatic bodies.)
 
 --Mike




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-24 Thread Lukasz Kacperczyk
Another vote for the M 135/3.5. I can't speak fot the Takumars (never owned
either of them), but they seem a good value too. And they're so small, and
cute, and... Anyone got a spare Spotmatic? ;-)

Lukasz

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Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Andre Langevin
Poll:

What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
value in the used market?

My Vote:

the 55mm F1.8/2.0 Super-Takumars
Great performers (even without SMC)
and they sell for less than $15.00 !

JCO


You're probably right...

I'd add the M 28/3.5.  When you find one, it's usually cheap.

Andre
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Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Poll:

 What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
 value in the used market?

I'd put the Takumar Bayonet 135/2.5 up there as well.  It may not have
SMC, but it's an incredible value for the money.

chris




RE: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell

 I'd add the M 28/3.5.  When you find one, it's usually cheap.
 
 Andre

Is it the best of all the slow (F2.8/3.5)
28mms made in Kmount?

How much do they usually sell for? I bought one a few years
back on ebay for around $60 if I recall. Never used it
JCO




RE: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
from what I've heard it's overpriced
at any price. I dont think it can qualify
as a good value. Woof Woof...
JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Best value in used pentax glass?
 
 
 On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
  Poll:
 
  What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
  value in the used market?
 
 I'd put the Takumar Bayonet 135/2.5 up there as well.  It may not have
 SMC, but it's an incredible value for the money.
 
 chris
 




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Paul Franklin Stregevsky
JCO wrote:
My Vote: the 55mm F1.8/2.0 Super-Takumars
Great performers (even without SMC) and they sell for less than $15.00 !

I would have to agree with JCO, though I cast my vote for the 55/1.8K,
widely available for $30 to $50. 

I prefer it over my Rikenon P 50/1.4 from f/5.6 to f/16; I prefer my Rikenon
from f/2 to f/4. (Forget about f/1.4 with either.) 

On a related note, someone was listing a pair of Rikenon lenses that
included a Rikenon 50/1.4. I asked the seller if it was the P; he said yes.
I told him he should say so and possibly sell it separately from the rest of
the setup, for it is very hard to find. He thanked me and just withdrew his
original ad (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3001728800
), explaining in the ad that it's no longer available. Uh-huh.

Well, I shot myself in the foot. Two days ago I discovered that I had bent
my Rikenon's autodiaphragm tab (or whatever), and now it won't close beyond
f/5.6. 

Proving that no good deed goes unpunished...

Oh, well. Now I can honestly say I need to keep my Ricoh and my Pentax
normal lenses.

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RE: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
good point. the 35 3.5 ST usually sells for
25-30 bucks and its outstanding.
JCO

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Best value in used pentax glass?
 
 
 Just about any of the Pentax or Takumar 35/3.5 lenses are ridiculously 
 low priced for a lens that is hard to beat.
 -- 
 Ken Archer Canine Photography
 San Antonio, Texas
 Business Is Going To The Dogs
 




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Bob Rapp
The 35mm f3.5 can't be far behind.

Bob
- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:25 AM
Subject: Best value in used pentax glass?


 Poll:
 
 What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
 value in the used market?
 
 My Vote:
 
 the 55mm F1.8/2.0 Super-Takumars
 Great performers (even without SMC)
 and they sell for less than $15.00 !
 
 JCO
 




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Mike Johnston
 Best value in used pentax glass?


Well, how about this: the tiny lens in the new Optio S is (I believe) the
first Pentax point-and-shoot lens that has ALL lens surfaces
Super-Multi-Coated.

(In case some don't realize, lens manufacturers often judiciously leave some
surfaces uncoated or single-coated if they feel they can cut the corners.
Generally, only premium lenses (and sometimes not even those!) have ALL
surfaces multi-coated.)

Considering that the whole camera costs what I've paid just for lenses in
the past, I could nominate the lens in the Optio S. That's sight-unseen, of
course. 





As far as the best value from my own experience, it's definitely the 50mm
f/1.4 Super-Multi-Coated Takumar M42 screwmount lens, the world's only
thousand-dollar lens you can buy for sixty bucks. I do love that lens.

--Mike




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Mike Johnston wrote:

 Well, how about this: the tiny lens in the new Optio S is (I believe)
 the first Pentax point-and-shoot lens that has ALL lens surfaces
 Super-Multi-Coated.

What's your source?  I seem to remember hearing from our Pentax rep that
most of their film ps's with SMC had every element coated, front and
back.  I could be wrong in this.

chris




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread frank theriault
I have to agree with you, J.C.

I have a couple of 2.0 55mm Super Taks.  Some of the sharpest pics I've
ever taken have been with one of them.


At $15 or so, is there a better deal anywhere?

cheers,
frank

J. C. O'Connell wrote:

 Poll:

 What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
 value in the used market?

 My Vote:

 the 55mm F1.8/2.0 Super-Takumars
 Great performers (even without SMC)
 and they sell for less than $15.00 !

 JCO

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The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The
pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Steve Larson
Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50/1.4, best value for what you get.
Can be had on ebay for $30-50. If it were made today, $1000.

Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film.

- Original Message - 
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: Best value in used pentax glass?


 Poll:
 
 What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
 value in the used market?
 
 My Vote:
 
 the 55mm F1.8/2.0 Super-Takumars
 Great performers (even without SMC)
 and they sell for less than $15.00 !
 
 JCO
 
 




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Christian Skofteland
Sorry, JCO, It's great value and doesn't deserve its bad reputation.

Christian

On Thursday 23 January 2003 19:53, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 from what I've heard it's overpriced
 at any price. I dont think it can qualify
 as a good value. Woof Woof...
 JCO

  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Brogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:43 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Best value in used pentax glass?
 
  On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
   Poll:
  
   What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
   value in the used market?
 
  I'd put the Takumar Bayonet 135/2.5 up there as well.  It may not have
  SMC, but it's an incredible value for the money.
 
  chris




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Bill Owens
What about the old FA28-105 Power Zoom?

Bill




Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:18:01 -0500, Bill Owens wrote:

What about the old FA28-105 Power Zoom?

I'm with you, Bill. This lens is my all around normal carry lens on my PZ-1p





Later,
Gary






Re: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course almost all the normal lenses are great values. But some other
real keepers include the M 200/4, which can frequently be found for less
than $100 and the Super Multi Coated Takumar 300/4, which is
magnificently sharp and sometimes sells for less than $200. Other
bargains inclde the SMC Pentax (K) 28/3.5 and of course the SMC Pentax
35/3.5. Magnificent lenses all, and none of them is costly.
Paul Stenquist

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
 Poll:
 
 What PENTAX ( Asahi) lens is the best overall
 value in the used market?
 
 My Vote:
 
 the 55mm F1.8/2.0 Super-Takumars
 Great performers (even without SMC)
 and they sell for less than $15.00 !
 
 JCO




RE: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread J. C. O'Connell
is it cheap used now?

 -Original Message-
 From: Gary L. Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:33 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Best value in used pentax glass?
 
 
 On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:18:01 -0500, Bill Owens wrote:
 
 What about the old FA28-105 Power Zoom?
 
 I'm with you, Bill. This lens is my all around normal carry 
 lens on my PZ-1p
 
 
 
 
 
 Later,
 Gary
 
 
 




RE: Best value in used pentax glass?

2003-01-23 Thread Andre Langevin
  I'd add the M 28/3.5.  When you find one, it's usually cheap.


 Andre


Is it the best of all the slow (F2.8/3.5)
28mms made in Kmount?


Supposedly second best, not far behind the K.


How much do they usually sell for? I bought one a few years
back on ebay for around $60 if I recall. Never used it
JCO


I don't know on eBay but in stores, they go for about the same. For a 
great 28mm it's a bargain.

Andre
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