Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
The general impression of the 18-135 I got while researching the matter for a friend, was that the Pentax version wasn't the best available in that focal length range, that honor fell to the Nikon. The conventional wisdom is that a shorter zoom range makes it easier to design and build an overall better lens, so by that reasoning and the fact that the Pentax 18-135 isn't the best... Well really I can't make a determination based on current knowledge. Sure it will probably be better, on average, but we won't know if it really will be and how much until a few get out there for review and testing, after all there are a lot of variables to be considered. Personally I'd not worry about it, if you're happy with the results you get from the 18-135, there's no need to speculate. On 10/30/2014 8:52 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Yea, it means Ricoh marketing is bankrupt of ideas, since H(igh) D(efinition), doesn't really mean anything since being taken over by market speak. Oh, and they have no connection to the past. Supposedly HD was used because the new coating process has no connection to the SMC process at all, but somehow I think that's just hype too. On 10/30/2014 4:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Does the HD mean anything? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Too slow. The 16-50 is 1 to 2 stops faster. Paul via phone On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:14 , Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? This looks like an excellent travel/casual zoom. Probably smaller and lighter than the 16-50, and frankly with the ability to shoot at ISO6400, the constant f/2.8 on the 16-50 isn't really necessary these days for me either. Depending on cost, I might seriously consider buying this one and selling the 16-50. A bit of Google brought me to the announcement page on PentaxForums.. The US retail price for the 16-85mm is $746.95 USD, and it is expected to ship in late November. http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/hd-pentax-da-16-85mm-officially-announced.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
It is 2mm wider. Otherwise, i wouldn't probably bother... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 14:53:12 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Well, if you're into wide angle shots it's 2mm better, obviously! (If you're a telephoto guy then it's actually 50mm worse.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Well, I also have a smc 17-28 mm zoom, so it would be 1mm better when I have my bag with me. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is 2mm wider. Otherwise, i wouldn't probably bother... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 14:53:12 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Not exactly... The fa 17-28 is fish eye lens. The lenses we discuss are rectilinear... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 15:18:01 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I also have a smc 17-28 mm zoom, so it would be 1mm better when I have my bag with me. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is 2mm wider. Otherwise, i wouldn't probably bother... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 14:53:12 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Yes, I obviously know that, Boris. It was mostly a humorous comment, about the difference that 1 or 2 mm on the wide side can make. I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly... The fa 17-28 is fish eye lens. The lenses we discuss are rectilinear... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 15:18:01 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I also have a smc 17-28 mm zoom, so it would be 1mm better when I have my bag with me. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is 2mm wider. Otherwise, i wouldn't probably bother... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 14:53:12 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Well, since the lens only became official less than 24 hours ago none of us has had the opportunity to try it out, so I doubt anyone here will be able to speak to its optical quality. But I'm sure lots of folks at PentaxForums will be happy to do so ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
I trust the folks on this list more. I thought some PDMLers might have advance intelligence on the new lenses, and that other can read the specs and make a bit more sense of them than I can. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Well, since the lens only became official less than 24 hours ago none of us has had the opportunity to try it out, so I doubt anyone here will be able to speak to its optical quality. But I'm sure lots of folks at PentaxForums will be happy to do so ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
I wouldn't expect any significant quality improvement from this new lens... As blasphemous as it may sound, Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.0 will probably beat it... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 15:23:24 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I obviously know that, Boris. It was mostly a humorous comment, about the difference that 1 or 2 mm on the wide side can make. I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly... The fa 17-28 is fish eye lens. The lenses we discuss are rectilinear... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 15:18:01 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I also have a smc 17-28 mm zoom, so it would be 1mm better when I have my bag with me. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is 2mm wider. Otherwise, i wouldn't probably bother... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 14:53:12 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't expect any significant quality improvement from this new lens... As blasphemous as it may sound, Sigma 17-70/2.8-4.0 will probably beat it... I love my version of said lens Dave Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 15:23:24 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I obviously know that, Boris. It was mostly a humorous comment, about the difference that 1 or 2 mm on the wide side can make. I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly... The fa 17-28 is fish eye lens. The lenses we discuss are rectilinear... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 15:18:01 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I also have a smc 17-28 mm zoom, so it would be 1mm better when I have my bag with me. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: It is 2mm wider. Otherwise, i wouldn't probably bother... Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On 30 October 2014 14:53:12 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
My only comment is that Ricoh Pentax is now producing 7 zooms in the normal / long normal zoom range: 16 -85 f3.5-5.6 16-45 f4 16-50 f2.8 17-70 f4 18 - 55 f3.5-5.6 18 - 55 II f3.5-5.6 18-135 f3.5-5.6 Obviously there are differences in focal length, features, etc. The 16-50 f2.8 really is in its own category and there is clearly a significant difference in zoom range from the shortest (16-45) to the longest (18-135). But - the line up also seems to be somewhat redundant and I for one would like to see new products that help diversify offerings. Mark On 10/30/2014 9:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I trust the folks on this list more. I thought some PDMLers might have advance intelligence on the new lenses, and that other can read the specs and make a bit more sense of them than I can. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Well, since the lens only became official less than 24 hours ago none of us has had the opportunity to try it out, so I doubt anyone here will be able to speak to its optical quality. But I'm sure lots of folks at PentaxForums will be happy to do so ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
On Oct 30, 2014, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? This looks like an excellent travel/casual zoom. Probably smaller and lighter than the 16-50, and frankly with the ability to shoot at ISO6400, the constant f/2.8 on the 16-50 isn't really necessary these days for me either. Depending on cost, I might seriously consider buying this one and selling the 16-50. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:14 , Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? This looks like an excellent travel/casual zoom. Probably smaller and lighter than the 16-50, and frankly with the ability to shoot at ISO6400, the constant f/2.8 on the 16-50 isn't really necessary these days for me either. Depending on cost, I might seriously consider buying this one and selling the 16-50. A bit of Google brought me to the announcement page on PentaxForums.. The US retail price for the 16-85mm is $746.95 USD, and it is expected to ship in late November. http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/hd-pentax-da-16-85mm-officially-announced.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Too slow. The 16-50 is 1 to 2 stops faster. Paul via phone On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:14 , Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? This looks like an excellent travel/casual zoom. Probably smaller and lighter than the 16-50, and frankly with the ability to shoot at ISO6400, the constant f/2.8 on the 16-50 isn't really necessary these days for me either. Depending on cost, I might seriously consider buying this one and selling the 16-50. A bit of Google brought me to the announcement page on PentaxForums.. The US retail price for the 16-85mm is $746.95 USD, and it is expected to ship in late November. http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/hd-pentax-da-16-85mm-officially-announced.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
I am in travel mode and neglected to carry my crystal ball. So I am not absolutely certain, but I predict that the 16-85mm will be wider, shorter, and with better or worse IQ. But maybe about the same. stan Sent from my iPad On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Well, since the lens only became official less than 24 hours ago none of us has had the opportunity to try it out, so I doubt anyone here will be able to speak to its optical quality. But I'm sure lots of folks at PentaxForums will be happy to do so ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Mark C wrote: My only comment is that Ricoh Pentax is now producing 7 zooms in the normal / long normal zoom range: 16 -85 f3.5-5.6 16-45 f4 16-50 f2.8 17-70 f4 18 - 55 f3.5-5.6 18 - 55 II f3.5-5.6 18-135 f3.5-5.6 Obviously there are differences in focal length, features, etc. The On the face of it, I can't see any major advantage of the 16-85 over the 18-135. The extra field of view is nice, but not a huge change. 16-50 f2.8 really is in its own category and there is clearly a significant difference in zoom range from the shortest (16-45) to the longest (18-135). But - the line up also seems to be somewhat redundant and I for one would like to see new products that help diversify offerings. I wonder why this is a DA WR rather than a DA*. The other silly thing that I wonder about is what the image circle on this lens is. On a 24x36 sensor, it would be a wonderful zoom range. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
I wonder how big the image circle on it is. On October 30, 2014 7:47:24 AM PDT, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: My only comment is that Ricoh Pentax is now producing 7 zooms in the normal / long normal zoom range: 16 -85 f3.5-5.6 16-45 f4 16-50 f2.8 17-70 f4 18 - 55 f3.5-5.6 18 - 55 II f3.5-5.6 18-135 f3.5-5.6 Obviously there are differences in focal length, features, etc. The 16-50 f2.8 really is in its own category and there is clearly a significant difference in zoom range from the shortest (16-45) to the longest (18-135). But - the line up also seems to be somewhat redundant and I for one would like to see new products that help diversify offerings. Mark On 10/30/2014 9:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I trust the folks on this list more. I thought some PDMLers might have advance intelligence on the new lenses, and that other can read the specs and make a bit more sense of them than I can. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Well, since the lens only became official less than 24 hours ago none of us has had the opportunity to try it out, so I doubt anyone here will be able to speak to its optical quality. But I'm sure lots of folks at PentaxForums will be happy to do so ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Only one way to find out! On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I wonder how big the image circle on it is. On October 30, 2014 7:47:24 AM PDT, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: My only comment is that Ricoh Pentax is now producing 7 zooms in the normal / long normal zoom range: 16 -85 f3.5-5.6 16-45 f4 16-50 f2.8 17-70 f4 18 - 55 f3.5-5.6 18 - 55 II f3.5-5.6 18-135 f3.5-5.6 Obviously there are differences in focal length, features, etc. The 16-50 f2.8 really is in its own category and there is clearly a significant difference in zoom range from the shortest (16-45) to the longest (18-135). But - the line up also seems to be somewhat redundant and I for one would like to see new products that help diversify offerings. Mark On 10/30/2014 9:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I trust the folks on this list more. I thought some PDMLers might have advance intelligence on the new lenses, and that other can read the specs and make a bit more sense of them than I can. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Well, since the lens only became official less than 24 hours ago none of us has had the opportunity to try it out, so I doubt anyone here will be able to speak to its optical quality. But I'm sure lots of folks at PentaxForums will be happy to do so ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Does the HD mean anything? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Too slow. The 16-50 is 1 to 2 stops faster. Paul via phone On Oct 30, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 10:14 , Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 07:52 , Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Received this email this morning from Ricoh Imaging: http://view.s6.exacttarget.com/?j=feba1d63017am=fe9212737561007873ls=fe22157873660178701c75l=fefb117270640cs=fe5411620d7f7013jb=ffcf14ju=fe6e15717166047c7d14r=0 My question is how much better will this lens be than my current zoom lens, the bDA 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 ED AL [IF] DC WR? This looks like an excellent travel/casual zoom. Probably smaller and lighter than the 16-50, and frankly with the ability to shoot at ISO6400, the constant f/2.8 on the 16-50 isn't really necessary these days for me either. Depending on cost, I might seriously consider buying this one and selling the 16-50. A bit of Google brought me to the announcement page on PentaxForums.. The US retail price for the 16-85mm is $746.95 USD, and it is expected to ship in late November. http://www.pentaxforums.com/articles/pentax-news/hd-pentax-da-16-85mm-officially-announced.html -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
True - that would be a significant distinction. A full from 16-85 would encompass a remarkable zoom range. Mark On 10/30/2014 12:37 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I wonder how big the image circle on it is. On October 30, 2014 7:47:24 AM PDT, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: My only comment is that Ricoh Pentax is now producing 7 zooms in the normal / long normal zoom range: 16 -85 f3.5-5.6 16-45 f4 16-50 f2.8 17-70 f4 18 - 55 f3.5-5.6 18 - 55 II f3.5-5.6 18-135 f3.5-5.6 Obviously there are differences in focal length, features, etc. The 16-50 f2.8 really is in its own category and there is clearly a significant difference in zoom range from the shortest (16-45) to the longest (18-135). But - the line up also seems to be somewhat redundant and I for one would like to see new products that help diversify offerings. Mark On 10/30/2014 9:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I trust the folks on this list more. I thought some PDMLers might have advance intelligence on the new lenses, and that other can read the specs and make a bit more sense of them than I can. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I was really wondering about the difference in lens quality, if any, rather than the distance in range. Well, since the lens only became official less than 24 hours ago none of us has had the opportunity to try it out, so I doubt anyone here will be able to speak to its optical quality. But I'm sure lots of folks at PentaxForums will be happy to do so ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Does the HD mean anything? HD is the new lens coating technology, replacing SMC. This article suggests that all DA lenses have been updated from SMC to HD: http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/03/19/farewell-to-flare-pentaxs-hd-limited-lens-lineup-gets-a-real-world-test However, the Pentax web site still lists most of them as SMC with just a few with HD. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: HD Pentax DA 16-85mm f3.5-5.6 ED DC WR
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that only the limited series has been completely revamped with new markings and coatings. The HD 55-300 WR is the only other DA lens to receive the new treatment as far as I knew. I have one and asides from being decentered (its going back) the flare resistance is truly superb as is the rendering. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Does the HD mean anything? HD is the new lens coating technology, replacing SMC. This article suggests that all DA lenses have been updated from SMC to HD: http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/03/19/farewell-to-flare-pentaxs-hd-limited-lens-lineup-gets-a-real-world-test However, the Pentax web site still lists most of them as SMC with just a few with HD. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
