Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
After fixing one myself, I can see why nobody is bothered to make fully mechanical camera again in the AF era. They are simply too labour intensive to manufacture. Nobody? Not quite. Leica still makes a fully manual camera. In fact, they've recently come out with the MP which is described by some as the epitome of fully manual camera design. Using one is an experience every photographer should have, if only once :-) There are numerous fully manual cameras in the medium format arena as well. The 'blad comes quickly to mind, as does the base Mamiya 645 (been using one of those for a while myself - sweet piece of gear). Believe the Rolleiflex is still being produced :-) Real photographers don't need AF, don't need no steenkin' batteries, either. Kind regard, Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Dai il suo nome ad una stella, un giorno speciale,una ricorrenza, un regalo unico e prezioso, REGALA UNA STELLA, sarà tua per sempre! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1499d=8-11
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
Right you are, Tyrone, But, who else but Leica could command the sort of price it does for the MP? And who else but Leica Buyers would pay that price? I think (other than MF, as you mention) that Leica is the exception that proves the rule... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MX Shutter Release Problem Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:55:04 +0100 After fixing one myself, I can see why nobody is bothered to make fully mechanical camera again in the AF era. They are simply too labour intensive to manufacture. Nobody? Not quite. Leica still makes a fully manual camera. In fact, they've recently come out with the MP which is described by some as the epitome of fully manual camera design. Using one is an experience every photographer should have, if only once :-) There are numerous fully manual cameras in the medium format arena as well. The 'blad comes quickly to mind, as does the base Mamiya 645 (been using one of those for a while myself - sweet piece of gear). Believe the Rolleiflex is still being produced :-) Real photographers don't need AF, don't need no steenkin' batteries, either. Kind regard, Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Dai il suo nome ad una stella, un giorno speciale,una ricorrenza, un regalo unico e prezioso, REGALA UNA STELLA, sarà tua per sempre! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1499d=8-11 _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
Hi, Saturday, November 8, 2003, 2:25:25 PM, you wrote: But, who else but Leica could command the sort of price it does for the MP? Nikon resurrected their old rangefinder a few years ago and it commanded similar prices if I remember correctly. And who else but Leica Buyers would pay that price? er, well, nobody - by definition! g -- Cheers, Bobmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
But, who else but Leica could command the sort of price it does for the MP? Nikon resurrected their old rangefinder a few years ago and it commanded similar prices if I remember correctly. If my memory is correct, the resurrected Nikon hit the streets with a price of about $5,000, twice that of the current Leica MP. Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Impara i trucchi di Posizionamento sui motori di ricerca, pubblicita' on-line, email marketing!. Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1817d=8-11
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
I think (other than MF, as you mention) that Leica is the exception that proves the rule... The Leica came quickly to mind, probably because I'm a Leica shooter, but there's also the various Voightlander models, the Mamiya 7 rangefinder, the Bronica rangefinder, Rollei's rebadged Voightlander, several Chinese 35mm SLR models, and, I'm sure, more. And isn't the K1000 still being manufactured somewhere under one or another different names? Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Offerte, promozioni e convenienza, solo se possiedi Blu American Express! Scopri come richiederla cliccando qui Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1855d=8-11
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
Nikon has the FM3A. Voigtlander has several mechanical cameras and they are reletively inexpensive. AFAIK all large format cameras are still mechanical, and so are about 1/2 the medium format cameras. frank theriault wrote: Right you are, Tyrone, But, who else but Leica could command the sort of price it does for the MP? And who else but Leica Buyers would pay that price? I think (other than MF, as you mention) that Leica is the exception that proves the rule... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MX Shutter Release Problem Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 12:55:04 +0100 After fixing one myself, I can see why nobody is bothered to make fully mechanical camera again in the AF era. They are simply too labour intensive to manufacture. Nobody? Not quite. Leica still makes a fully manual camera. In fact, they've recently come out with the MP which is described by some as the epitome of fully manual camera design. Using one is an experience every photographer should have, if only once :-) There are numerous fully manual cameras in the medium format arena as well. The 'blad comes quickly to mind, as does the base Mamiya 645 (been using one of those for a while myself - sweet piece of gear). Believe the Rolleiflex is still being produced :-) Real photographers don't need AF, don't need no steenkin' batteries, either. Kind regard, Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Dai il suo nome ad una stella, un giorno speciale,una ricorrenza, un regalo unico e prezioso, REGALA UNA STELLA, sarà tua per sempre! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1499d=8-11 _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
And don't forget all those mechanical marvels being produced in former Soviet Union countries. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think (other than MF, as you mention) that Leica is the exception that proves the rule... The Leica came quickly to mind, probably because I'm a Leica shooter, but there's also the various Voightlander models, the Mamiya 7 rangefinder, the Bronica rangefinder, Rollei's rebadged Voightlander, several Chinese 35mm SLR models, and, I'm sure, more. And isn't the K1000 still being manufactured somewhere under one or another different names? Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Offerte, promozioni e convenienza, solo se possiedi Blu American Express! Scopri come richiederla cliccando qui Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1855d=8-11 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
On 8 Nov 2003 at 15:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Leica came quickly to mind, probably because I'm a Leica shooter, but there's also the various Voightlander models, the Mamiya 7 rangefinder, the Bronica rangefinder, Rollei's rebadged Voightlander, several Chinese 35mm SLR models, and, I'm sure, more. The Mamiya 7 shutter mech is completely battery dependent and doesn't reside in the camera body. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wuz wrong. Lots of mechanical cameras still out there. I just wasn't thinking is all. BTW, I think there may be several Chinese K1000 clones out there. IIRC, Pentax sourced out the K1000 to several Far East factories to keep costs down. Once the K1000 was discontinued, some of those factories kept making the K1000 with their own badges on them. One such company is the Ming Camera Company, manufacturers of the Mingca, a K1000 clone. There may be others. FWIW... cheers, frank The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true. -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MX Shutter Release Problem Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 15:54:04 +0100 I think (other than MF, as you mention) that Leica is the exception that proves the rule... The Leica came quickly to mind, probably because I'm a Leica shooter, but there's also the various Voightlander models, the Mamiya 7 rangefinder, the Bronica rangefinder, Rollei's rebadged Voightlander, several Chinese 35mm SLR models, and, I'm sure, more. And isn't the K1000 still being manufactured somewhere under one or another different names? Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Offerte, promozioni e convenienza, solo se possiedi Blu American Express! Scopri come richiederla cliccando qui Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1855d=8-11 _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
Sounds like it's time for a complete CLA. After the weekend it gets packed up and sent to my Pentax guy in the US. I've asked him to make it like a new camera again. Kind regards from Naples, Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: ...Occhiali da sole? Da vista? Lenti a contatto? Vieni a provare la convenienza su Occhialeria.it! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=881d=7-11
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
The beauty of MX is that only very few things could go wrong if well taken care of, even after 20+ years. The problem is usually associated with old grease and dirt jammed the mechanism, a sign of the lack of regular maintenance. Most dead or poor shape MXs were caused by impact or water damage, and often poor repair in the past. The only on-going issue is that the shutter requires frequent adjustment if you want it as accurate as possible (at least every year). After fixing one myself, I can see why nobody is bothered to make fully mechanical camera again in the AF era. They are simply too labour intensive to manufacture. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan That's ~exactly~ what my MX did when I got it out of the box (quite used, and clearly purchased at a very reasonable price as is, BTW). Even the smacking worked, just like yours, but it would jam about every 10 frames or so. CLA fixed that sucker, and it's been good as new ever since... _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcommpgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
It probably needs a CLA. Has it been done recently? If so, the problem is elsewhere. Andre --
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
Most likely either dirt, or a slightly bent linkage in the camera. Any decent repair shop ought to be able to fix it easily. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just took an MX out for some exercise and the shutter relase jammed and became sticky :-(( Any suggestions on what I might check to fix the problem. When it jammed, I just whacked the camera against the palm of my hand, and it freed things up only to get sluggish, sticky, and jam again later. I keep whacking it, it works a time or two, and then it's time to smack it again. This pummeling can't be very good for the camera ;-)) All thoughts and suggestions appreciated. Kind regards, Tyrone -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Metti il turbo alla tua casella di posta: 100 MB per inviare e ricevere tutto quello che vuoi. Clicca qui Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=1624d=6-11 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
It probably needs a CLA. Has it been done recently? If so, the problem is elsewhere. It was cleaned and adjusted within the past 18 months. Then Graywolf is right. And its repair will cost less than a complete CLA. Find a technician that doesn't charge a high minimum price for repairs, you know, like $70 to change the batteries for that old lady. Andre --
Re: MX Shutter Release Problem
Sounds like it's time for a complete CLA. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan Just took an MX out for some exercise and the shutter relase jammed and became sticky :-(( Any suggestions on what I might check to fix the problem. When it jammed, I just whacked the camera against the palm of my hand, and it freed things up only to get sluggish, sticky, and jam again later. I keep whacking it, it works a time or two, and then it's time to smack it again. This pummeling can't be very good for the camera ;-)) All thoughts and suggestions appreciated. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photospgmarket=en-caRU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
