Re: PESO - Sculptor
Excellent photo Dave On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sculptor
On 19/10/12, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg That's a lovely study of a man and his work. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very good indeed. A wonderful portrait of a man at work. On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: On 19/10/12, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg That's a lovely study of a man and his work. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Ken, Ford held a media intro for the new Lincoln design center Thursday and allowed cameras. The post-MKZ models were covered or transported to some other location. Nothing new beyond MKZ was shown, but it was an interesting presentation. Best, Pau On Oct 19, 2012, at 11:54 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Nice shot Paul. I suspect you're writing an article on the new MKZ, else you'd have had a problem getting the camera into the design center. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - Sculptor John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A lovely environmental portrait. His hands just give that impression of precision. D On 20/10/2012 8:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Derby. It was fascinating to watch. He had such superb hand control it made me wonder if he followed a special diet to enable better muscle control and less twitch. As a photographer who likes to defy the limits of handheld shake, it made me jealous. Paul On Oct 20, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: A lovely environmental portrait. His hands just give that impression of precision. D On 20/10/2012 8:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great pic, Paul, and an excellent piece in the Times. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 5:28 PM Subject: PESO - Sculptor John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah, yes. Steady Stenquist we called him, before the days of image stabilization. (He probably doesn't drink. Not worth it.) Rick - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 7:59 AM Subject: Re: PESO - Sculptor Thanks Derby. It was fascinating to watch. He had such superb hand control it made me wonder if he followed a special diet to enable better muscle control and less twitch. As a photographer who likes to defy the limits of handheld shake, it made me jealous. Paul On Oct 20, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: A lovely environmental portrait. His hands just give that impression of precision. D On 20/10/2012 8:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sculptor
On 10/19/2012 11:28 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg You're steady as ever too, Paul. A great photograph of a man who's deeply immersed in his work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's a nice portrait Paul, and a pretty amazing process. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great portrait of a craftsman at work. I'm surprised they don't use robotic tools driven from 3D CAD systems to do this. Don't they do all body design in workstations now? On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Bruce, Some carmakers went to pure digital design, engineering build and prototyping a decade ago. Some, like Ford, eventually came to realize that something was missing she machines took charge.. Lincoln's clay models are roughed out by CNC machines but they're finished and tweaked by hand. If you'd like to know more, my story for The Times about Lincoln's new design center and its philosophy is here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/for-lincoln-designers-a-clubhouse-to-call-their-own/?ref=automobiles Paul On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Great portrait of a craftsman at work. I'm surprised they don't use robotic tools driven from 3D CAD systems to do this. Don't they do all body design in workstations now? On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I like that: hand tweak the clay then digitize and update the 3D model. I've definitely felt that recent all-virtual designs fell short of great hand-crafted designs of the past, and apparently I wasn't alone in that. Great article and accompanying shots, Paul. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Bruce, Some carmakers went to pure digital design, engineering build and prototyping a decade ago. Some, like Ford, eventually came to realize that something was missing she machines took charge.. Lincoln's clay models are roughed out by CNC machines but they're finished and tweaked by hand. If you'd like to know more, my story for The Times about Lincoln's new design center and its philosophy is here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/19/for-lincoln-designers-a-clubhouse-to-call-their-own/?ref=automobiles Paul On Oct 19, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Great portrait of a craftsman at work. I'm surprised they don't use robotic tools driven from 3D CAD systems to do this. Don't they do all body design in workstations now? On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Sculptor
Excellent! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Sent: October 19, 2012 10/19/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Sculptor John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Sculptor
Nice shot Paul. I suspect you're writing an article on the new MKZ, else you'd have had a problem getting the camera into the design center. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: PESO - Sculptor John Allen an automotive sculptor tweaking a 4/10ths clay model of the Lincoln MKZ at the brand's new design center in Dearborn, Michigan. John has been doing it for thirty years. Here he first layer a tape line, then made a knife cut next to the tape before cutting the surface above the line down to the knife cut with the tool shown. Now, he's steady. Must not drink coffee. Shot with the DA* 16-50 at ISO 800. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16529404size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
