Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-04 Thread P. J. Alling

Yes but they'll let you carry it in your checked luggage.

I remember flying with my Vivitar flat field 90-180, a dense chunk of 
brass and glass that was about a foot and a half long, which would give 
quite a bit of mechanical advantage if swung as a club.


Much more dangerous than any pocket knife but the TSA took off the lens 
caps looked through it and just let me fly with it.


It's all theater and safety doesn't actually measure into it, and if it 
did flying would be so onerous that everyone would rebel.


On 12/3/2020 11:27 PM, Alan C wrote:
I'm surprised. That last time I came over there I accidentally left my 
Swiss Army Knife in my hand luggage & was forced to surrender it at OR 
Tambo Airport. "Sir, it's for your own safety". Eating irons were 
replaced by eating plastics.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 10:26 PM, mike wilson wrote:
If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a 
knife most of the time.



On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:


Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the 
pocket knife

the Army gave me at home.

http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg

On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:

Not legal here, unfortunately.


On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:


Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
spies & thugs.

Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have 
effectively a weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One 
adjustment and you have a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I 
recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling" 
 wrote:



That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…
I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using 
a maglight holster


https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.




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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-04 Thread mike wilson
That's a flying regulation; if it had been a pair of scissors, the outcome 
would have been the same.
> On 04 December 2020 at 04:27 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm surprised. That last time I came over there I accidentally left my 
> Swiss Army Knife in my hand luggage & was forced to surrender it at OR 
> Tambo Airport. "Sir, it's for your own safety". Eating irons were 
> replaced by eating plastics.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 03-Dec-20 10:26 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> > If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a knife most 
> > of the time.
> >
> >> On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket 
> >> knife
> >> the Army gave me at home.
> >>
> >> http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg
> >>
> >> On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:
> >>> Not legal here, unfortunately.
> >>>
>  On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
>  spies & thugs.
> 
>  Alan C
> 
>  On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively 
> > a weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you 
> > have a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo 
> > Traveller.
> >
> >> On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling" 
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
> >> makes a decent club, for self defense.
> >>
> >> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>  On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
>  Use a bean bag…
> >>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
> >>> maglight holster
> >>>
> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> >>>
> >>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.
>

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread Alan C
I'm surprised. That last time I came over there I accidentally left my 
Swiss Army Knife in my hand luggage & was forced to surrender it at OR 
Tambo Airport. "Sir, it's for your own safety". Eating irons were 
replaced by eating plastics.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 10:26 PM, mike wilson wrote:

If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a knife most of 
the time.


On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:


Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket knife
the Army gave me at home.

http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg

On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:

Not legal here, unfortunately.


On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:


Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
spies & thugs.

Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.



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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread John
The lenses I really need to use it with (80-200/2.8 & 300/2.8) all have a 
separate foot & the lens rotates in the collar if I need to change the alignment.


On 12/3/2020 16:48:38, Ken Waller wrote:

An L bracket for the camera body can do the same thing without putting the
mass of the camera body off axis to the monopod making it more awkward to
handle.

-Original Message-

From: l...@red4est.com
Sent: Dec 3, 2020 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter


I mostly have it locked down but it makes it easy to switch from horizontal 
to vertical compositions. Also sometimes the study place for the foot is very 
much not directly under where I want the camera.


On December 3, 2020 12:00:38 PM PST, John  wrote:

I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly.
I like
the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.

Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang
of using
one on a monopod.


On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:

That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also

makes a

decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a

maglight

holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread John

Wouldn't you just know it ... 3-5/8 inches.

On 12/3/2020 15:26:35, mike wilson wrote:

If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a knife most of 
the time.


On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:


Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket knife
the Army gave me at home.

http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg

On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:

Not legal here, unfortunately.


On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:


Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
spies & thugs.

Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.





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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread Ken Waller
An L bracket for the camera body can do the same thing without putting the mass 
of the camera body off axis to the monopod making it more awkward to handle.


-Original Message-
>From: l...@red4est.com
>Sent: Dec 3, 2020 3:54 PM
>Subject: Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter
>
>I mostly have it locked down but it makes it easy to switch from horizontal to 
>vertical compositions. Also sometimes the study place for the foot is very 
>much not directly under where I want the camera.
>
>On December 3, 2020 12:00:38 PM PST, John  wrote:
>>I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly.
>>I like 
>>the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.
>>
>>Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang
>>of using 
>>one on a monopod.
>>
>>
>>On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>>makes a 
>>> decent club, for self defense.
>>> 
>>> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Use a bean bag…
>>>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a
>>maglight 
>>>> holster
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
>>>>
>>>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
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>>>> l...@red4est.com


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread mike wilson
If it has less than a 3.5inch blade, it's no problem.  I carry a knife most of 
the time.

> On 03 December 2020 at 20:16 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket 
> knife 
> the Army gave me at home.
> 
> http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg
> 
> On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:
> > Not legal here, unfortunately.
> > 
> >> On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
> >> spies & thugs.
> >>
> >> Alan C
> >>
> >> On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >>> I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
> >>> weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you 
> >>> have a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo 
> >>> Traveller.
> >>>
>  On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>  makes a decent club, for self defense.
> 
>  On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >>
> >> Use a bean bag…
> > I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
> > maglight holster
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> >
> > It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread lrc



On December 3, 2020 12:08:59 PM PST, John  wrote:
>I think mine's the same - about the size and weight of an aluminum
>baseball bat.
>
>This on the "business" end:
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-323-Connect-Adapter-200PL-14/dp/B000JLK5PU
>
>Never want to use it that way, but I could if I had to.
>
>That's another thing I hate about getting old, being afraid of
>strangers.

Strangers are still afraid of me, but it's getting harder to find people 
stranger than me.


>
>On 12/3/2020 09:12:19, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> I've got you there, mine's made of aluminum.
>> 
>> On 12/3/2020 1:57 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling
> wrote:

 That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>makes a 
 decent club, for self defense.
>>> That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all
>but the 
>>> smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and
>handling to 
>>> a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber
>would hold 
>>> up to actually striking anything with it.
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> l...@red4est.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread lrc
I mostly have it locked down but it makes it easy to switch from horizontal to 
vertical compositions. Also sometimes the study place for the foot is very much 
not directly under where I want the camera.

On December 3, 2020 12:00:38 PM PST, John  wrote:
>I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly.
>I like 
>the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.
>
>Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang
>of using 
>one on a monopod.
>
>
>On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:
>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
>makes a 
>> decent club, for self defense.
>> 
>> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
 On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

 Use a bean bag…
>>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a
>maglight 
>>> holster
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
>>>
>>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Larry Colen
>>> l...@red4est.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread John
Yeah. If I ever get the chance to visit again I plan to leave the pocket knife 
the Army gave me at home.


http://www.badguystuff.com/images/benchmade9053_600x500.jpg

On 12/3/2020 10:23:51, mike wilson wrote:

Not legal here, unfortunately.


On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:


Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by
spies & thugs.

Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.





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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread John

I think mine's the same - about the size and weight of an aluminum baseball bat.

This on the "business" end:

https://www.amazon.com/Manfrotto-323-Connect-Adapter-200PL-14/dp/B000JLK5PU

Never want to use it that way, but I could if I had to.

That's another thing I hate about getting old, being afraid of strangers.

On 12/3/2020 09:12:19, P. J. Alling wrote:

I've got you there, mine's made of aluminum.

On 12/3/2020 1:57 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
decent club, for self defense.
That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling to 
a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would hold 
up to actually striking anything with it.


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread John
I've never had much luck with ball heads on a monopod. Just too wobbly. I like 
the RC2 plate holder mounted directly to the end of the monopod.


Ball heads are great on a tripod, but I've just never gotten the hang of using 
one on a monopod.



On 12/2/2020 20:41:03, P. J. Alling wrote:
That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
decent club, for self defense.


On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…
I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster


https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread mike wilson
Not legal here, unfortunately.

> On 03 December 2020 at 12:13 Alan C  wrote:
> 
> 
> Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by 
> spies & thugs.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
> > weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have 
> > a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.
> >
> >> On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
> >> makes a decent club, for self defense.
> >>
> >> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>  On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
>  Use a bean bag…
> >>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
> >>> maglight holster
> >>>
> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> >>>
> >>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread Bob Pdml
James Smith & Sons, the umbrella shop in Holborn, London, still show 
swordsticks on their shopfront, although I think it’s highly unlikely that 
they’d make or sell you one. 

Unless you’re John Steed, of course.

> On 3 Dec 2020, at 14:21, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> You can own a lot of different firearms legally in the US but disguised 
> weapons are one frowned by most states and localities. You can buy a license 
> from the Feds for a gun cane and wait about a year for them to decide that 
> you're not a felon or particularly dangerous, but the locals will still 
> probably take a dim view. Bashing someones skull in is preferable I 
> guess.  I don't know of anyplace where a sword cane is legal, except 
> as a curio, though I'm sure some one will tell me.
> 
>> On 12/3/2020 7:13 AM, Alan C wrote:
>> Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by spies 
>> & thugs.
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>>> On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
>>> I prefer a two-piece for self-defence. Collapsed, you have effectively a 
>>> weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have 
>>> a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.
>>> 
 On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
 wrote:
 
 
 That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
 makes a decent club, for self defense.
 
 On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Use a bean bag…
> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
> maglight holster
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> 
> It doubles as a nice walking stick.
>> 
>> 
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread P. J. Alling
You can own a lot of different firearms legally in the US but disguised 
weapons are one frowned by most states and localities. You can buy a 
license from the Feds for a gun cane and wait about a year for them to 
decide that you're not a felon or particularly dangerous, but the locals 
will still probably take a dim view. Bashing someones skull in is 
preferable I guess.  I don't know of anyplace where a sword cane 
is legal, except as a curio, though I'm sure some one will tell me.


On 12/3/2020 7:13 AM, Alan C wrote:
Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by 
spies & thugs.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:
I prefer a two-piece for self-defence. Collapsed, you have 
effectively a weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One 
adjustment and you have a quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I 
recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling" 
 wrote:



That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…
I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a 
maglight holster


https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread P. J. Alling

I've got you there, mine's made of aluminum.

On 12/3/2020 1:57 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:

That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
decent club, for self defense.

That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling to 
a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would hold up 
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread Bob Pdml
Capt. Sir Richard Francis Burton, one of my great heroes of the Ripping Yarns 
variety, was the finest swordsman in Europe, literally as well as 
metaphorically, and always used a heavy metal walking stick to keep his sword 
arm strong.

In the good old days you could have your walking stick made with kind of 
knobbles or large knurls along the length so that if you were approached by a 
ruffian, a member of the working classes or a foreigner it was a simple matter 
to run the knobbly bits swiftly and forcefully across their shins or their 
skull and they would think twice in future about breaking the social distancing 
code.

https://youtu.be/HtRGeyznv7k



> On 3 Dec 2020, at 07:37, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
> weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
> quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller. 
> 
>> On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also 
>> makes a decent club, for self defense.
>> 
>>> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>> 
 On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
 
 Use a bean bag…
>>> I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
>>> holster
>>> 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
>>> 
>>> It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread Alan C
Surprised you didn't mention the "cane gun" adaptation widely used by 
spies & thugs.


Alan C

On 03-Dec-20 09:37 AM, mike wilson wrote:

I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller.


On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:


That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also
makes a decent club, for self defense.

On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.



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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread mike wilson
I prefer a two-piece for self-defence.  Collapsed, you have effectively a 
weighted walking stick, à la Sherlock Holmes.  One adjustment and you have a 
quarterstaff, of little John fame.  I recommend the Benbo Traveller. 

> On 03 December 2020 at 01:41 "P. J. Alling"  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also 
> makes a decent club, for self defense.
> 
> On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> >
> >> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> >>
> >> Use a bean bag…
> > I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
> > holster
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7
> >
> > It doubles as a nice walking stick.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
I responded to the wrong post. It’s Larry’s fried potatoes pic that google is 
holding hostage.

Paul

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 6:00 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> Can’t see this without allowing Google access to all my photos!
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 1:57 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
>>> decent club, for self defense.
>> 
>> That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
>> smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling 
>> to a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would 
>> hold up to actually striking anything with it.
>> 
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Can’t see this without allowing Google access to all my photos!

Paul

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 1:57 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
>> decent club, for self defense.
> 
> That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
> smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling 
> to a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would 
> hold up to actually striking anything with it.
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-02 Thread Larry Colen



> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:41 PM, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also makes a 
> decent club, for self defense.

That thought has crossed my mind. Without the ballhead, and with all but the 
smallest section extended it has similar size, weight, balance and handling to 
a bokken, though I hesitate to consider how well the carbon fiber would hold up 
to actually striking anything with it.

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-12-02 Thread P. J. Alling
That looks enough like the one I use, that I can opine that it also 
makes a decent club, for self defense.


On 11/25/2020 1:31 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:

Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

It doubles as a nice walking stick.


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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread John

Ha! When you can pry it from my cold dead fingers!

On 11/25/2020 15:11:13, Toine wrote:

The manual lists f4 as minimal for both phase and contrast af. The
600/4 should therefore work. Screwdrive AF can be slower.
If in doubt send the 600/4 to me. I'll run some extensive field tests
and report the results :)

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 20:54, Paul Sorenson  wrote:


See the link below.  Scroll to the bottom of the page to see Pentax
compatible lenses.

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/converter/lc-1_4x-aw/

-p

On 11/25/2020 12:13 PM, John wrote:

On 11/25/2020 08:44:46, Toine wrote:

Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
give it a try in the field, handheld...

cropped
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752

full frame for pixel peeping
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715

I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
serious birding...



I just took a quick look at it at B It says "compatible with Pentax
KAF2 mount lenses on Select DSLR cameras." They've got it in stock
with a "Limited supply" at $$$.¢¢.

I'm guessing the K-1 is one of those select DSLRs, but is the FA-600/4
compatible?

I'm guessing yes, because it works on the K-1 without the rear
converter, but I'd like to *know* I'm not fooling myself before I'd
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread John
OK, thanks. I didn't find the FA600/4 on there, so I think you might have just 
saved me some money.


On 11/25/2020 14:53:56, Paul Sorenson wrote:
See the link below.  Scroll to the bottom of the page to see Pentax compatible 
lenses.


http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/converter/lc-1_4x-aw/

-p

On 11/25/2020 12:13 PM, John wrote:

On 11/25/2020 08:44:46, Toine wrote:

Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
give it a try in the field, handheld...

cropped
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752

full frame for pixel peeping
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715

I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
serious birding...



I just took a quick look at it at B It says "compatible with Pentax KAF2 
mount lenses on Select DSLR cameras." They've got it in stock with a "Limited 
supply" at $$$.¢¢.


I'm guessing the K-1 is one of those select DSLRs, but is the FA-600/4 
compatible?


I'm guessing yes, because it works on the K-1 without the rear converter, but 
I'd like to *know* I'm not fooling myself before I'd purchase one.









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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Toine
The manual lists f4 as minimal for both phase and contrast af. The
600/4 should therefore work. Screwdrive AF can be slower.
If in doubt send the 600/4 to me. I'll run some extensive field tests
and report the results :)

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 20:54, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>
> See the link below.  Scroll to the bottom of the page to see Pentax
> compatible lenses.
>
> http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/converter/lc-1_4x-aw/
>
> -p
>
> On 11/25/2020 12:13 PM, John wrote:
> > On 11/25/2020 08:44:46, Toine wrote:
> >> Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
> >> famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
> >> Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
> >> shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
> >> give it a try in the field, handheld...
> >>
> >> cropped
> >> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752
> >>
> >> full frame for pixel peeping
> >> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715
> >>
> >> I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
> >> serious birding...
> >>
> >
> > I just took a quick look at it at B It says "compatible with Pentax
> > KAF2 mount lenses on Select DSLR cameras." They've got it in stock
> > with a "Limited supply" at $$$.¢¢.
> >
> > I'm guessing the K-1 is one of those select DSLRs, but is the FA-600/4
> > compatible?
> >
> > I'm guessing yes, because it works on the K-1 without the rear
> > converter, but I'd like to *know* I'm not fooling myself before I'd
> > purchase one.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Paul Sorenson
See the link below.  Scroll to the bottom of the page to see Pentax 
compatible lenses.


http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/lens/k/converter/lc-1_4x-aw/

-p

On 11/25/2020 12:13 PM, John wrote:

On 11/25/2020 08:44:46, Toine wrote:

Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
give it a try in the field, handheld...

cropped
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752

full frame for pixel peeping
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715

I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
serious birding...



I just took a quick look at it at B It says "compatible with Pentax 
KAF2 mount lenses on Select DSLR cameras." They've got it in stock 
with a "Limited supply" at $$$.¢¢.


I'm guessing the K-1 is one of those select DSLRs, but is the FA-600/4 
compatible?


I'm guessing yes, because it works on the K-1 without the rear 
converter, but I'd like to *know* I'm not fooling myself before I'd 
purchase one.







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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Larry Colen


> On Nov 25, 2020, at 7:24 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> Use a bean bag…

I use a monopod with a ball head and hang it from my belt using a maglight 
holster

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bfko83dh4sFfu5Lg7

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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Larry Colen


> On Nov 25, 2020, at 5:44 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
> famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
> Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
> shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
> give it a try in the field, handheld…

Nice photos.  

My test for teleconverters tends to be to take a photo of the moon, with and 
without the TC.  I then crop them to the same field of view to see whether I’m 
better off with the TC.

The nice thing about the moon as a test subject is that apart from haze, it’s 
pretty much always the same.
> 
> cropped
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752
> 
> full frame for pixel peeping
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715
> 
> I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
> serious birding...
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
The DA 1.4X may vignette slightly in the corners with that combination.. It 
does on the K-1 with D FA 150-450. But it’s inconsequential. Easily fixed, and 
I almost always crop my bird photos. I think Ken Waller tried it with the FA 
600 f/4.

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 1:13 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> On 11/25/2020 08:44:46, Toine wrote:
>> Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
>> famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
>> Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
>> shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
>> give it a try in the field, handheld...
>> cropped
>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752
>> full frame for pixel peeping
>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715
>> I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
>> serious birding...
> 
> I just took a quick look at it at B It says "compatible with Pentax KAF2 
> mount lenses on Select DSLR cameras." They've got it in stock with a "Limited 
> supply" at $$$.¢¢.
> 
> I'm guessing the K-1 is one of those select DSLRs, but is the FA-600/4 
> compatible?
> 
> I'm guessing yes, because it works on the K-1 without the rear converter, but 
> I'd like to *know* I'm not fooling myself before I'd purchase one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread John

On 11/25/2020 08:44:46, Toine wrote:

Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
give it a try in the field, handheld...

cropped
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752

full frame for pixel peeping
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715

I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
serious birding...



I just took a quick look at it at B It says "compatible with Pentax KAF2 
mount lenses on Select DSLR cameras." They've got it in stock with a "Limited 
supply" at $$$.¢¢.


I'm guessing the K-1 is one of those select DSLRs, but is the FA-600/4 
compatible?

I'm guessing yes, because it works on the K-1 without the rear converter, but 
I'd like to *know* I'm not fooling myself before I'd purchase one.






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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Paul Stenquist
I use the DA 1.4x regularly  with my 150-450. It’s superb.

Paul

> On Nov 25, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Toine  wrote:
> 
> Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
> famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
> Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
> shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
> give it a try in the field, handheld...
> 
> cropped
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752
> 
> full frame for pixel peeping
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715
> 
> I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
> serious birding...
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Alan C
I had a 1.7x which I bought brand new in the box, old stock, for a song 
a few years ago. It gave good results with my SuperTak 55/2 but showed 
much degradation on slower consumer primes & zooms. A DA 1.4x is 
unfortunately way beyond my budget.


Alan C

On 25-Nov-20 03:44 PM, Toine wrote:

Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
give it a try in the field, handheld...

cropped
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752

full frame for pixel peeping
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715

I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
serious birding...




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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Bob Pdml
Use a bean bag...

> On 25 Nov 2020, at 14:14, Toine  wrote:
> 
> That's what I was afraid of :) maybe I need to sit on my hands. My
> only escape is the idea of 630 mm handheld is too long and heavy to
> shoot without a serious tripod.
> 
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 14:58, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> I use the DA 1.4x regularly  with my 150-450. It’s superb.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
 On Nov 25, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Toine  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
>>> famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
>>> Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
>>> shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
>>> give it a try in the field, handheld...
>>> 
>>> cropped
>>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752
>>> 
>>> full frame for pixel peeping
>>> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715
>>> 
>>> I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
>>> serious birding...
>>> 
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Matthew Hunt
I basically never take the DA 1.4x off my DA*300/4. That's my birding
setup. It's a great combination.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:45 AM Toine  wrote:

> Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
> famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
> Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
> shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
> give it a try in the field, handheld...
>
> cropped
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752
>
> full frame for pixel peeping
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715
>
> I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
> serious birding...
>
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Re: PESO Birding with 1.4x converter

2020-11-25 Thread Toine
That's what I was afraid of :) maybe I need to sit on my hands. My
only escape is the idea of 630 mm handheld is too long and heavy to
shoot without a serious tripod.

On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 14:58, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>
> I use the DA 1.4x regularly  with my 150-450. It’s superb.
>
> Paul
>
> > On Nov 25, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Toine  wrote:
> >
> > Found a DA 1.4x converter. Tried converters before including the
> > famous 1.7 AF version and never satisfied until this DA version.
> > Combined with the DA300 I can't complain about anything. Tripod test
> > shots as sharp as can be, no additional CA or purple fringing. Let's
> > give it a try in the field, handheld...
> >
> > cropped
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-964-20201125-img3752
> >
> > full frame for pixel peeping
> > https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-965-20201125-img3715
> >
> > I'm impressed and saved 2k on a future 150-450. Maybe someday some
> > serious birding...
> >
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