Re: weird discovery

2011-04-09 Thread Mark Roberts
William Robb wrote:

On 08/04/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 I'm in the middle of a couple of fairly big projects around the house, and 
 it's handy to get photos to document it.

 I recently made a surprising discovery. When all I need is a snaphsot that 
 does a decent job of getting the exposure close enough, the green mode 
 actually works ell enough, even with the pop-up flash.

 whoda thunkit?

I spend a surprisingly large amount of time in green mode.

If you have your program line set to MTF it's an excellent way of
working.
 
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Re: weird discovery

2011-04-09 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 William Robb wrote:

On 08/04/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 I'm in the middle of a couple of fairly big projects around the house, and 
 it's handy to get photos to document it.

 I recently made a surprising discovery. When all I need is a snaphsot 
 that does a decent job of getting the exposure close enough, the green mode 
 actually works ell enough, even with the pop-up flash.

 whoda thunkit?

I spend a surprisingly large amount of time in green mode.

 If you have your program line set to MTF it's an excellent way of
 working.

What does Meet The Focklers have to do with it.??

Dave

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Re: weird discovery

2011-04-08 Thread William Robb

On 08/04/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I'm in the middle of a couple of fairly big projects around the house, and it's 
handy to get photos to document it.

I recently made a surprising discovery. When all I need is a snaphsot that 
does a decent job of getting the exposure close enough, the green mode actually works ell 
enough, even with the pop-up flash.

whoda thunkit?


I spend a surprisingly large amount of time in green mode.


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Re: weird discovery

2011-04-08 Thread John Francis
 On 08/04/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 When all I need is a snapshot that does a decent job of getting the exposure
 close enough, the green mode actually works ell enough, even with the pop-up 
 flash.

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Sorry - that's a few too many characters for a tweet.
Shame, really - you've nailed the astonishment at the blindingly obvious.


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Re: weird discovery

2011-04-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
Once or twice I've accidentally selected green mode, and I thought my camera 
was broken. I always use focus point selection, and it doesn't work in green 
mode. 
Paul

On Apr 8, 2011, at 10:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I'm in the middle of a couple of fairly big projects around the house, and 
 it's handy to get photos to document it.  
 
 I recently made a surprising discovery. When all I need is a snaphsot that 
 does a decent job of getting the exposure close enough, the green mode 
 actually works ell enough, even with the pop-up flash.
 
 whoda thunkit?
 
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Re: weird discovery

2011-04-08 Thread Ann Sanfedele


William Robb wrote:


On 08/04/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I'm in the middle of a couple of fairly big projects around the 
house, and it's handy to get photos to document it.


I recently made a surprising discovery. When all I need is a 
snaphsot that does a decent job of getting the exposure close 
enough, the green mode actually works ell enough, even with the 
pop-up flash.


whoda thunkit?



I spend a surprisingly large amount of time in green mode.



But what about the camera?



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Re: weird discovery

2011-04-08 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 8, 2011, at 8:05 PM, John Francis wrote:

 On 08/04/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 When all I need is a snapshot that does a decent job of getting the 
 exposure
 close enough, the green mode actually works ell enough, even with the pop-up 
 flash.
 
  1234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 
 234567890
 
 Sorry - that's a few too many characters for a tweet.
 Shame, really - you've nailed the astonishment at the blindingly obvious.

Not really all that obvious because I pretty much learned using DSLRs with the 
K100 and K20, which I found would take good shots, if you carefully told them 
exactly what to do, but letting the camera think for itself was generally a 
recipe for disaster.


 
 
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Re: weird discovery

2011-04-08 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:22:15PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Apr 8, 2011, at 8:05 PM, John Francis wrote:
 
  On 08/04/2011 8:49 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
  
  When all I need is a snapshot that does a decent job of getting the 
  exposure
  close enough, the green mode actually works ell enough, even with the 
  pop-up flash.
  
   1234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 234567890 
  234567890
  
  Sorry - that's a few too many characters for a tweet.
  Shame, really - you've nailed the astonishment at the blindingly obvious.
 
 Not really all that obvious because I pretty much learned using DSLRs with 
 the K100 and K20, which I found would take good shots, if you carefully told 
 them exactly what to do, but letting the camera think for itself was 
 generally a recipe for disaster.

I'd still disagree.

While I rarely use green mode, I'd say well over half my shots are taken in 
P
mode (which is kinda like green mode with a few more options available).  That
was true even with my *ist-D (and, before that, the PZ-1p and MZ-S).

And, of course, the vast majority of cameras (of all makes) are sold to people
who probably use green/P mode on an even higher proportion of their shots.
But, despite that, they manage to end up with some pretty decent shots (well,
unless they use RAW - you still get posts complaining about the lack of punch
in shots straight out of the camera. That happens for JPEGs, too, as a recent
post reminds us, but it was far more common complaint about RAW images).

For tricky light I'll spot meter; for specific visual effects I'll shoot
aperture or shutter priority.  And I'll dial in exposure compensation if
I know I'm shooting in situations that require it.  But if I'm not using
any of those (and even when I am using spot metering) the camera ends up
set in just the same way it would be in green mode.  Most of the time
that's close enough for all but the most demanding scenarios.



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