subject:"Something for Henk"

Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-29 Thread Rick Womer

We could use “BRUCE!” Instead…


> On Jan 26, 2023, at 7:40 PM, Bruce Nagel  wrote:
> 
> Is there something more to it than maintaining the list of quotations that
> folks call out to be 'MARK'ed (and add the occasional side quotation of
> course)?
> 
> If not, then I'm game to take it on.  I've been collecting quotations since my
> college days anyway.  I have a PDML-file that has (most of) the ones flagged 
> in
> 2021 and 2022 already anyway.
> 
> If there /is/ more to it, spill the beans...?  Maybe I'll still sign on the
> dotted line anyway.  (I know, I know, press hard, you're making three copies.)
> 
> All of that given Mark being okay with it - as has been remarked before, it's
> his baby...
> 
> Bruce N.
> -- 
> They are all ugly outside their shells. Never eat half an escargot and look
> at what's left.  The size doesn't help either.
> (Bill Robb)
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, John Sessoms wrote:
>> It needs someone who is actually competent to do it. I would if I was.
>> 
>> On 1/23/2023 10:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>> are you volunteering?
>>> 
>>> no one has said anything worth quoting until larry did yesterday ;-)
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> On 1/23/2023 10:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
 Has anyone picked up the torch for the quotations list?
 
 On 1/22/2023 2:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> MARK!
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 Jan 2023, at 18:40, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> What an odd day!
> I agree with Godfrey.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-28 Thread John Sessoms


I guess you would need someplace to publish the annual list?

On 1/26/2023 7:40 PM, Bruce Nagel wrote:

Is there something more to it than maintaining the list of quotations that
folks call out to be 'MARK'ed (and add the occasional side quotation of
course)?

If not, then I'm game to take it on.  I've been collecting quotations 
since my
college days anyway.  I have a PDML-file that has (most of) the ones 
flagged in

2021 and 2022 already anyway.

If there /is/ more to it, spill the beans...?  Maybe I'll still sign on the
dotted line anyway.  (I know, I know, press hard, you're making three 
copies.)


All of that given Mark being okay with it - as has been remarked before, 
it's

his baby...

Bruce N.


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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-26 Thread Larry Colen



> On Jan 26, 2023, at 4:40 PM, Bruce Nagel  wrote:
> 
> Is there something more to it than maintaining the list of quotations that
> folks call out to be 'MARK'ed (and add the occasional side quotation of
> course)?

Basicallly it was just his making decisions of what things were worthy of 
quoting.
People would MARK things they liked, to bring them to his attention, or just 
show their  appreciation.


> 
> If not, then I'm game to take it on.  I've been collecting quotations since my
> college days anyway.  I have a PDML-file that has (most of) the ones flagged 
> in
> 2021 and 2022 already anyway.

It’s basically a job of curating, and dealing with people who disagree with 
your decisions.

> 
> If there /is/ more to it, spill the beans...?  Maybe I'll still sign on the
> dotted line anyway.  (I know, I know, press hard, you're making three copies.)

Mark is the one that knows exactly what was involved.

> 
> All of that given Mark being okay with it - as has been remarked before, it's
> his baby...

See above

> 
> Bruce N.
> -- 
> They are all ugly outside their shells. Never eat half an escargot and look
> at what's left.  The size doesn't help either.
> (Bill Robb)
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, John Sessoms wrote:
>> It needs someone who is actually competent to do it. I would if I was.
>> 
>> On 1/23/2023 10:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>>> are you volunteering?
>>> 
>>> no one has said anything worth quoting until larry did yesterday ;-)
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>> On 1/23/2023 10:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
 Has anyone picked up the torch for the quotations list?
 
 On 1/22/2023 2:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> MARK!
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 22 Jan 2023, at 18:40, l...@red4est.com wrote:
> 
> What an odd day!
> I agree with Godfrey.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-26 Thread Bruce Nagel


Is there something more to it than maintaining the list of quotations that
folks call out to be 'MARK'ed (and add the occasional side quotation of
course)?

If not, then I'm game to take it on.  I've been collecting quotations since my
college days anyway.  I have a PDML-file that has (most of) the ones flagged in
2021 and 2022 already anyway.

If there /is/ more to it, spill the beans...?  Maybe I'll still sign on the
dotted line anyway.  (I know, I know, press hard, you're making three copies.)

All of that given Mark being okay with it - as has been remarked before, it's
his baby...

Bruce N.
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They are all ugly outside their shells. Never eat half an escargot and look
at what's left.  The size doesn't help either.
(Bill Robb)



On Wed, Jan 25, 2023, John Sessoms wrote:

It needs someone who is actually competent to do it. I would if I was.

On 1/23/2023 10:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

are you volunteering?

no one has said anything worth quoting until larry did yesterday ;-)

ann

On 1/23/2023 10:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Has anyone picked up the torch for the quotations list?

On 1/22/2023 2:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

MARK!

*sigh*




On 22 Jan 2023, at 18:40, l...@red4est.com wrote:

What an odd day!
I agree with Godfrey.

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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-25 Thread John Sessoms


It needs someone who is actually competent to do it. I would if I was.

On 1/23/2023 10:31 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

are you volunteering?

no one has said anything worth quoting until larry did yesterday ;-)

ann

On 1/23/2023 10:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Has anyone picked up the torch for the quotations list?

On 1/22/2023 2:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

MARK!

*sigh*




On 22 Jan 2023, at 18:40, l...@red4est.com wrote:

What an odd day!
I agree with Godfrey.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-23 Thread ann sanfedele


are you volunteering?

no one has said anything worth quoting until larry did yesterday ;-)

ann

On 1/23/2023 10:21 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Has anyone picked up the torch for the quotations list?

On 1/22/2023 2:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

MARK!

*sigh*




On 22 Jan 2023, at 18:40, l...@red4est.com wrote:

What an odd day!
I agree with Godfrey.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-23 Thread John Sessoms


Has anyone picked up the torch for the quotations list?

On 1/22/2023 2:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

MARK!

*sigh*




On 22 Jan 2023, at 18:40, l...@red4est.com wrote:

What an odd day!
I agree with Godfrey.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-23 Thread John Sessoms


I've heard the same argument from "art" dealers. Fuck 'em!

On 1/22/2023 12:59 AM, Alan C wrote:

Well said, Godfrey.

I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along 
those lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never 
be art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And 
what if the "artist" had to wear glasses?


Alan C

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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-23 Thread Alan C


Some shoes! Probably not mushroom inside.

Alan C

On 23-Jan-23 07:46 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

With the help of canva AI I'm now learning how to grow mushrooms in my
shoes.
Here my first attempt:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/mxer/uGd989QuV8

Henk

Op ma 23 jan. 2023 om 12:13 schreef Henk Terhell :


Thanks Godfrey. Documentation in an aesthetical way with
available techniques is what I aim for. The motivation I find in the beauty
as well as weirdness of nature.

Henk




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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-23 Thread Ralf R Radermacher


Am 23.01.23 um 18:46 schrieb Henk Terhell:

With the help of canva AI I'm now learning how to grow mushrooms in my
shoes.


Good Heavens, what have I done...

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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-23 Thread Henk Terhell

With the help of canva AI I'm now learning how to grow mushrooms in my
shoes.
Here my first attempt:
https://www.flickr.com/gp/mxer/uGd989QuV8

Henk

Op ma 23 jan. 2023 om 12:13 schreef Henk Terhell :

> Thanks Godfrey. Documentation in an aesthetical way with
> available techniques is what I aim for. The motivation I find in the beauty
> as well as weirdness of nature.
>
> Henk
>
>>
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-23 Thread Henk Terhell

Thanks Godfrey. Documentation in an aesthetical way with
available techniques is what I aim for. The motivation I find in the beauty
as well as weirdness of nature.

Henk

"These days, if somebody tells me they are a photographer, I'm not sure
what they do." (David Hockney).


Op zo 22 jan. 2023 om 21:50 schreef Godfrey DiGiorgi :

> Perhaps when seen standalone as photographs, these two images are not
> "Art" but exquisite documentarian representations of fungi in nature …
>
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread ann sanfedele


Har!  indeed!

ann

On 1/22/2023 2:47 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

MARK!

*sigh*




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I agree with Godfrey.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Perhaps when seen standalone as photographs, these two images are not "Art" but 
exquisite documentarian representations of fungi in nature … 

But they could be embued with the notion of Art by incorporating them into a 
display of photographs which allegorizes a perception of them … in their 
sensual form and color … with relation to something else acknowledged as a 
human perception of their beauty in contrast or complement to other human 
experience. 

Photography and photographs always live on this border between Documentation 
and Art, in my opinion. I often think about it as I look through my or others' 
photographic works with the terms "literal" or "abstract" describing their 
qualities. Literal photographs tend to be documentation—recordings—in that 
lexicon; abstract photographs tend to be more focused as Art in intent, more a 
search for caricature or archetype in a sense. But it's a subjective game, a 
matter of perception and the language, combined, that we use to describe what 
we're doing, what we've done. 

In the end, what looks 'well done' to a particular set of eyes *is* well done, 
when it comes to a photograph. And these two photographs are, to my eye, very 
well done, Henk! :)

G
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> On Jan 22, 2023, at 12:45 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Ralf, for me the world of fungi is strange enough in itself. I have no
> need for additional artistic modification other than getting sharp pictures
> and a fair reproduction of colors. However I do appreciate such weird
> fantasy even if it is generated with the help of AI.
> To illustrate, here are two recent (non AI) pictures of peculiar fungi:
> https://flic.kr/p/2oaDxzD
> https://flic.kr/p/2obWN7d
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op za 21 jan. 2023 om 23:47 schreef Ralf R Radermacher :
> 
>> Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
>>> Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
>>> perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
>>> More of such fantasy work will be our future.
>> 
>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Steve Cottrell

MARK!

*sigh*




On 22 Jan 2023, at 18:40, l...@red4est.com wrote:

What an odd day! 
I agree with Godfrey.
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread lrc

What an odd day! 
I agree with Godfrey.

On January 21, 2023 6:56:38 PM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
wrote:
>I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by which 
>humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the world we 
>live in. We already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys, our 
>cameras, and run a lot of our essential infrastructure. There's really little 
>difference between what is Art directly created by human hands and Art that is 
>indirectly created by the minds that humans embue their machines with. 
>
>Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists, and 
>until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is the 
>result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly or 
>indirectly created. 
>
>If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it must be 
>made by human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs will then 
>be marginally not-art since we already rely upon a whole range of machines, of 
>varying levels of "intelligence", to produce our photographs. 
>
>G
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>
>> On Jan 21, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Comcast  wrote:
>> 
>> But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best 
>> of it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to 
>> compete with a robot for my job.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
 On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
> Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
> perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
> More of such fantasy work will be our future.
 
 Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
 if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
 
 Ralf
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

One would have t5o bge an idiot to deny that the works of Cartier-Bresson
and Adams, just to name two obvious examples, are not true art.

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On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 1:16 PM Alan C  wrote:

> Well said, Godfrey.
>
> I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along
> those lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never
> be art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And
> what if the "artist" had to wear glasses?
>
> Alan C
>
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Alan Cole

Well said, Godfrey.

I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along those
lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never be art.
One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And what if the
"artist" had to wear glasses?

Alan C

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 6:52 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by
> which humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the
> world we live in. We already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys,
> our cameras, and run a lot of our essential infrastructure. There's really
> little difference between what is Art directly created by human hands and
> Art that is indirectly created by the minds that humans embue their
> machines with.
>
> Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists,
> and until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is
> the result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly
> or indirectly created.
>
> If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it
> must be made by human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs
> will then be marginally not-art since we already rely upon a whole range of
> machines, of varying levels of "intelligence", to produce our photographs.
>
> G
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> "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus."
> --Mark Twain
>
> > On Jan 21, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Comcast  wrote:
> >
> > But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the
> best of it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t
> have to compete with a robot for my job.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.
> >>
> >> ann
> >>
> >>> On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>  Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
>  Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop
> work,
>  perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
>  More of such fantasy work will be our future.
> >>>
> >>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
> >>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
> >>>
> >>> Ralf
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Alan C

Well said, Godfrey.

I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along
those lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never
be art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And
what if the "artist" had to wear glasses?

Alan C

On 22-Jan-23 04:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by which
humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the world we live in. We
already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys, our cameras, and run a lot of our
essential infrastructure. There's really little difference between what is Art directly
created by human hands and Art that is indirectly created by the minds that humans embue
their machines with.

Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists, and
until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is the
result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly or
indirectly created.

If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it must be made by
human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs will then be marginally not-art since
we already rely upon a whole range of machines, of varying levels of "intelligence", to
produce our photographs.

G
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Alan C


Well said, Godfrey.

I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along 
those lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never 
be art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And 
what if the "artist" had to wear glasses?


Alan C

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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Alan C

Well said, Godfrey.

Alan C

On 22-Jan-23 04:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

G
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On Jan 21, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Comcast wrote:

But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best of
it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to
compete with a robot for my job.

Paul

On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.

ann

On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.

Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.

Ralf

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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Henk Terhell

Ralf, for me the world of fungi is strange enough in itself. I have no
need for additional artistic modification other than getting sharp pictures
and a fair reproduction of colors. However I do appreciate such weird
fantasy even if it is generated with the help of AI.
To illustrate, here are two recent (non AI) pictures of peculiar fungi:
https://flic.kr/p/2oaDxzD
https://flic.kr/p/2obWN7d

Henk

Op za 21 jan. 2023 om 23:47 schreef Ralf R Radermacher :

> Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
> > Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
> > perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
> > More of such fantasy work will be our future.
>
> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
>
> Ralf
>
>
>
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Alan C


Well said, G

I well remember a heated argument with a fellow teacher along those 
lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never be 
art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used & whether 
the artist wore glasses.


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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread mike wilson

I think there are equal chances of him putting his foot in it. 

> On 22/01/2023 03:09 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
>  
> It's too bad the artist didn't put his best foot forward.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 2:32 PM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> > Just discovered this in THe Guardian:
> >
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/jan/21/youll-grow-out-of-them-trainers-transformed-into-plants-in-pictures
> >
> > Ralf
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

I was only making a koke, based on the footwear in the collection.
Personally, I have very broad view of what constitutes art, although I do
not think my photography constitutes "art," except perhaps for one or two
accidental creations.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 11:52 PM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by
> which humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the
> world we live in. We already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys,
> our cameras, and run a lot of our essential infrastructure. There's really
> little difference between what is Art directly created by human hands and
> Art that is indirectly created by the minds that humans embue their
> machines with.
>
> Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists,
> and until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is
> the result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly
> or indirectly created.
>
> If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it
> must be made by human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs
> will then be marginally not-art since we already rely upon a whole range of
> machines, of varying levels of "intelligence", to produce our photographs.
>
> G
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-22 Thread Alan C


Well said, Godfrey.

I well remember a heated argument I had with a fellow teacher along 
those lines many years ago. He was adamant that photography could never 
be art. One could even argue about the type of brush & paint used! And 
what if the "artist" had to wear glasses?


Alan C

On 22-Jan-23 04:56 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it must be made by 
human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs will then be marginally not-art since 
we already rely upon a whole range of machines, of varying levels of "intelligence", to 
produce our photographs.



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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

I dunno. Art remains art. An "AI" is just another constructed thing by which 
humans have extended their abilities to influence and manipulate the world we 
live in. We already use automatons to assemble our cars, our toys, our cameras, 
and run a lot of our essential infrastructure. There's really little difference 
between what is Art directly created by human hands and Art that is indirectly 
created by the minds that humans embue their machines with. 

Until a definitive test of what constitutes machine intelligence exists, and 
until machines can reliably and consistently pass that test, any Art is the 
result of human artiface and mind regardless of whether it is directly or 
indirectly created. 

If you want to put a simple limitation on "what is art" to say that it must be 
made by human hands, well, that is just fine … but most photographs will then 
be marginally not-art since we already rely upon a whole range of machines, of 
varying levels of "intelligence", to produce our photographs. 

G
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"You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus."
--Mark Twain

> On Jan 21, 2023, at 6:17 PM, Comcast  wrote:
> 
> But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best of 
> it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to 
> compete with a robot for my job.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
 Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
 Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
 perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
 More of such fantasy work will be our future.
>>> 
>>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
>>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
>>> 
>>> Ralf
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola

It's too bad the artist didn't put his best foot forward.

Dan Matyola
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 2:32 PM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

> Just discovered this in THe Guardian:
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/jan/21/youll-grow-out-of-them-trainers-transformed-into-plants-in-pictures
>
> Ralf
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-21 Thread Comcast

But it’s happening. AI is now writing as well. Might as well make the best of 
it. However, I’m glad I’ve reached an age where I probably won’t have to 
compete with a robot for my job.

Paul

> On Jan 21, 2023, at 8:45 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
>>> Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
>>> perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
>>> More of such fantasy work will be our future.
>> 
>> Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
>> if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.
>> 
>> Ralf
>> 
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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-21 Thread ann sanfedele


I'm with you all th way on that , Ralf.

ann

On 1/21/2023 5:47 PM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:
Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop 
work,

perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.


Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.

Ralf

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Re: Something for Henk

2023-01-21 Thread Ralf R Radermacher


Am 21.01.23 um 22:55 schrieb Henk Terhell:

Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.


Really? The idea of living in a world where you have to keep wondering
if art is genuine or AI generated gives me the creeps.

Ralf

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2023-01-21 Thread Henk Terhell

Thanks Ralph, very funny pictures. I guess this is clever photoshop work,
perhaps even with the assistance of a new AI picture generator.
More of such fantasy work will be our future.
Henk

Op za 21 jan. 2023 om 20:32 schreef Ralf R Radermacher :

> Just discovered this in THe Guardian:
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/jan/21/youll-grow-out-of-them-trainers-transformed-into-plants-in-pictures
>
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