Re: Stupid car question

[P. J. Alling]

STTOS City on the Edge of Forever, where Kirk explains to Edith Keeler, 
about Spock's ears...



On 6/28/2017 5:39 PM, John wrote:

On 6/27/2017 23:20, P. J. Alling wrote:



On 6/27/2017 6:01 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:


A punctured tyre can usually be
vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.

"Fascinating" ;-)
You've lost me, there. But you're welcome to continue this 
discussion in

Dutch, French or German if you feel up to it.

Or even Vulcan ;-)



So to be vulcanized is to get the ears without the unfortunate rice
harvester accident?



Ok, NOW you've lost me. What "unfortunate rice harvester accident"?




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[John]

On 6/27/2017 23:20, P. J. Alling wrote:



On 6/27/2017 6:01 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:


A punctured tyre can usually be
vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.

"Fascinating" ;-)

You've lost me, there. But you're welcome to continue this discussion in
Dutch, French or German if you feel up to it.

Or even Vulcan ;-)



So to be vulcanized is to get the ears without the unfortunate rice
harvester accident?



Ok, NOW you've lost me. What "unfortunate rice harvester accident"?

--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[P. J. Alling]

On 6/27/2017 6:01 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:


A punctured tyre can usually be
vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.

"Fascinating" ;-)

You've lost me, there. But you're welcome to continue this discussion in
Dutch, French or German if you feel up to it.

Or even Vulcan ;-)



So to be vulcanized is to get the ears without the unfortunate rice 
harvester accident?


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Steve Cottrell]

>> On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> 
>>> A punctured tyre can usually be
>>> vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.
>> 
>> "Fascinating" ;-)
>
>You've lost me, there. But you're welcome to continue this discussion in 
>Dutch, French or German if you feel up to it.

Or even Vulcan ;-)

-- 


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and
||  (O)  |Live Broadcast News
--
_



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Steve Cottrell]

On 27/6/17, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed:

>One of many fascinating things you can pick up if you hang out at the
>docks often enough...

Vulcans do not 'hang out at the docks'

-- 


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and
||  (O)  |Live Broadcast News
--
_



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Paul Stenquist]

The Paris forage was shot in the mid 1930s. Continental kits were common on 
passenger cars. Of course they didn't refer to them as such. Edsel started that.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 27, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I used some footage of Paris traffic for a 1991 commercial about Edsel Ford's 
> first Continental. Numerous modest cars, Renaults in particular, were all 
> sporting Continental kit spare tires.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:02 PM, John  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it became a style in between the world wars European auto
>> racing. Mounting the spare on the back would cut down on wind
>> resistance. Maybe some of the early steps towards streamlining.
>> 
>> Anyway, it's a "continental kit" because that's how it was done on the
>> continent (of Europe).
>> 
>>> On 6/25/2017 23:09, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:43:52 -0400, Paul Stenquist 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other
 than to mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on
 period boats.
 
 Paul via phone
 
>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So I saw one of these:
>> http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
>> 
>> on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can
>> anyone tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>> 
> spare tire, continental kit
> 
> --
> J.C. O'Connell
> hifis...@gate.net
> -
> Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
> 
>>> 
>>> actually the mounting of tires externally on the body goes way back in
>>> automotive
>>> history, but the trend was over by the sixties. It was still very
>>> popular in the
>>> mid to late 50's however.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
>> Religion - Answers we must never question.
>> 
>> -- 
>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> PDML@pdml.net
>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>> follow the directions.
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Paul Stenquist]

I used some footage of Paris traffic for a 1991 commercial about Edsel Ford's 
first Continental. Numerous modest cars, Renaults in particular, were all 
sporting Continental kit spare tires.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:02 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> I think it became a style in between the world wars European auto
> racing. Mounting the spare on the back would cut down on wind
> resistance. Maybe some of the early steps towards streamlining.
> 
> Anyway, it's a "continental kit" because that's how it was done on the
> continent (of Europe).
> 
>> On 6/25/2017 23:09, J.C. O'Connell wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:43:52 -0400, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other
>>> than to mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on
>>> period boats.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
> On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill
>  wrote:
> 
> So I saw one of these:
> http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
> 
> on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can
> anyone tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?
> 
> thanks
> 
> bill
> 
> 
 spare tire, continental kit
 
 --
 J.C. O'Connell
 hifis...@gate.net
 -
 Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
 
>> 
>> actually the mounting of tires externally on the body goes way back in
>> automotive
>> history, but the trend was over by the sixties. It was still very
>> popular in the
>> mid to late 50's however.
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
> Religion - Answers we must never question.
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[John]

On 6/27/2017 05:45, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

Am 26.06.17 um 21:52 schrieb Toralf Lund:


I think most new cars no longer have a spare tyre as standard
equipment around here, although it may be available as an option.
Instead, some kind of repair kit is included. Typically a contraption
that will fill the tyre with a mixture of air and a gluey substance. I
guess it works pretty well on simple pinhole type punctures, but if
you get a proper tear you're in trouble...


There is another major drawback to this. A punctured tyre can usually be
vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.

But not after the chemical repair kit has been used. Then it will only
be good for the way to the next garage at no more than 80 km/h. There,
you'll have to buy a new one. Now, have this happen with a tyre that's
worn by more than, say, a third and you'll have to buy not one but two
new tyres where you'd have had a simple 20 euro repair before.

With all my driving around in ports and former industrial sites I end up
with a punctured tyre about once a year. Buying one or two new tyres
each time would soon add up to a lot of money.

Ralf



When I was driving my MGB, I carried a spare tube & a kit for patching
punctured tubes, along with a couple of irons & a bottle of soap.
Eventually, I got pretty proficient at getting the the tube out & back in.

--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[John]

I think it became a style in between the world wars European auto
racing. Mounting the spare on the back would cut down on wind
resistance. Maybe some of the early steps towards streamlining.

Anyway, it's a "continental kit" because that's how it was done on the
continent (of Europe).

On 6/25/2017 23:09, J.C. O'Connell wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:43:52 -0400, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other
than to mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on
period boats.

Paul via phone


On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:


On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill
 wrote:

So I saw one of these:
http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg

on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can
anyone tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?

thanks

bill



spare tire, continental kit

--
J.C. O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/



actually the mounting of tires externally on the body goes way back in
automotive
history, but the trend was over by the sixties. It was still very
popular in the
mid to late 50's however.




--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 27.06.17 um 13:15 schrieb Steve Cottrell:

On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:


A punctured tyre can usually be
vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.


"Fascinating" ;-)


You've lost me, there. But you're welcome to continue this discussion in 
Dutch, French or German if you feel up to it.


Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[P. J. Alling]

Yes but you must remember that a case of the crabs isn't necessarily 
seafood.



On 6/27/2017 11:32 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote:

On 27 Jun 2017, at 12:16, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:


A punctured tyre can usually be
vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.

"Fascinating" ;-)


One of many fascinating things you can pick up if you hang out at the docks 
often enough...






--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Bob W-PDML]

> On 27 Jun 2017, at 12:16, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> A punctured tyre can usually be 
>> vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.
> 
> "Fascinating" ;-)
> 

One of many fascinating things you can pick up if you hang out at the docks 
often enough...



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Steve Cottrell]

On 27/6/17, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:

> A punctured tyre can usually be 
>vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.

"Fascinating" ;-)

-- 


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__UK Shoot / Edit and
||  (O)  |Live Broadcast News
--
_



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 26.06.17 um 21:52 schrieb Toralf Lund:

I think most new cars no longer have a spare tyre as standard equipment 
around here, although it may be available as an option. Instead, some 
kind of repair kit is included. Typically a contraption that will fill 
the tyre with a mixture of air and a gluey substance. I guess it works 
pretty well on simple pinhole type punctures, but if you get a proper 
tear you're in trouble...


There is another major drawback to this. A punctured tyre can usually be 
vulcanised in a workshop and will be as good as new.


But not after the chemical repair kit has been used. Then it will only 
be good for the way to the next garage at no more than 80 km/h. There, 
you'll have to buy a new one. Now, have this happen with a tyre that's 
worn by more than, say, a third and you'll have to buy not one but two 
new tyres where you'd have had a simple 20 euro repair before.


With all my driving around in ports and former industrial sites I end up 
with a punctured tyre about once a year. Buying one or two new tyres 
each time would soon add up to a lot of money.


Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Ken Waller]

My Cayman GTS comes with a compressor and a can of sealant. You add the 
sealant to the tire, roll the tire a revolution or two and pressurize the 
tire with the compressor. Works for most small punctures.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Toralf Lund" <tor...@toralf.net>

Subject: Re: Stupid car question



On 26/06/17 21:13, P. J. Alling wrote:

I hope they're sold with run flat tires too.
I think most new cars no longer have a spare tyre as standard equipment 
around here, although it may be available as an option. Instead, some kind 
of repair kit is included. Typically a contraption that will fill the tyre 
with a mixture of air and a gluey substance. I guess it works pretty well 
on simple pinhole type punctures, but if you get a proper tear you're in 
trouble...


- Toralf




On 6/26/2017 1:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Or just get rid of it...

Last year I was at a Kia dealership, and was surprised that one car had 
_NO_ spare tire, not even a donut.

I forgot what model that was, - must've been either Sportage, Optima,
or possibly Sorrento or Rio.

And it turns out many cars are sold like that:
http://publicaffairsresources.aaa.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Vehicles-Sold-Without-a-Spare-Tire.pdf
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/laautoshow/la-fi-hy-spare-tires-20161115-story.html


Cheers,

Igor



Ralf R Radermacher Mon, 26 Jun 2017 02:36:20 -0700 wrote:

Am 26.06.17 um 05:33 schrieb Ken Waller:

   Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire 
out

   of the trunk and give more room in the trunk.



Wish there'd be something like this for today's vehicles. I'd like to 
have our car converted to LPG, if I only knew where to put the spare 
wheel.



Ralf



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Ken Waller]

Nothiing new - its a weight save being pushed in the quest for higher gas 
mileage. Goes back at least 15 years or so on some car lines.



Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Igor PDML-StR" <pdml...@komkon.org>

Subject: Re: Stupid car question




Or just get rid of it...

Last year I was at a Kia dealership, and was surprised that one car had 
_NO_ spare tire, not even a donut.

I forgot what model that was, - must've been either Sportage, Optima,
or possibly Sorrento or Rio.

And it turns out many cars are sold like that:
http://publicaffairsresources.aaa.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Vehicles-Sold-Without-a-Spare-Tire.pdf
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/laautoshow/la-fi-hy-spare-tires-20161115-story.html


Cheers,

Igor



Ralf R Radermacher Mon, 26 Jun 2017 02:36:20 -0700 wrote:

Am 26.06.17 um 05:33 schrieb Ken Waller:


   Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire out
   of the trunk and give more room in the trunk.



Wish there'd be something like this for today's vehicles. I'd like to have 
our car converted to LPG, if I only knew where to put the spare wheel.



Ralf



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Toralf Lund]

On 26/06/17 21:13, P. J. Alling wrote:

I hope they're sold with run flat tires too.
I think most new cars no longer have a spare tyre as standard equipment 
around here, although it may be available as an option. Instead, some 
kind of repair kit is included. Typically a contraption that will fill 
the tyre with a mixture of air and a gluey substance. I guess it works 
pretty well on simple pinhole type punctures, but if you get a proper 
tear you're in trouble...


- Toralf




On 6/26/2017 1:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Or just get rid of it...

Last year I was at a Kia dealership, and was surprised that one car 
had _NO_ spare tire, not even a donut.

I forgot what model that was, - must've been either Sportage, Optima,
or possibly Sorrento or Rio.

And it turns out many cars are sold like that:
http://publicaffairsresources.aaa.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Vehicles-Sold-Without-a-Spare-Tire.pdf 

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/laautoshow/la-fi-hy-spare-tires-20161115-story.html 




Cheers,

Igor



Ralf R Radermacher Mon, 26 Jun 2017 02:36:20 -0700 wrote:

Am 26.06.17 um 05:33 schrieb Ken Waller:

   Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire 
out

   of the trunk and give more room in the trunk.



Wish there'd be something like this for today's vehicles. I'd like to 
have our car converted to LPG, if I only knew where to put the spare 
wheel.



Ralf







--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[P. J. Alling]

I hope they're sold with run flat tires too.


On 6/26/2017 1:55 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:


Or just get rid of it...

Last year I was at a Kia dealership, and was surprised that one car 
had _NO_ spare tire, not even a donut.

I forgot what model that was, - must've been either Sportage, Optima,
or possibly Sorrento or Rio.

And it turns out many cars are sold like that:
http://publicaffairsresources.aaa.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Vehicles-Sold-Without-a-Spare-Tire.pdf 

http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/laautoshow/la-fi-hy-spare-tires-20161115-story.html 




Cheers,

Igor



Ralf R Radermacher Mon, 26 Jun 2017 02:36:20 -0700 wrote:

Am 26.06.17 um 05:33 schrieb Ken Waller:


   Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire out
   of the trunk and give more room in the trunk.



Wish there'd be something like this for today's vehicles. I'd like to 
have our car converted to LPG, if I only knew where to put the spare 
wheel.



Ralf




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Igor PDML-StR]

Or just get rid of it...

Last year I was at a Kia dealership, and was surprised that one car had 
_NO_ spare tire, not even a donut.

I forgot what model that was, - must've been either Sportage, Optima,
or possibly Sorrento or Rio.

And it turns out many cars are sold like that:
http://publicaffairsresources.aaa.biz/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Vehicles-Sold-Without-a-Spare-Tire.pdf
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/laautoshow/la-fi-hy-spare-tires-20161115-story.html


Cheers,

Igor



Ralf R Radermacher Mon, 26 Jun 2017 02:36:20 -0700 wrote:

Am 26.06.17 um 05:33 schrieb Ken Waller:


   Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire out
   of the trunk and give more room in the trunk.



Wish there'd be something like this for today's vehicles. I'd like to have 
our car converted to LPG, if I only knew where to put the spare wheel.



Ralf

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Paul Stenquist]

Turnpike Cruiser was a Mercury. This is a 1960 Edsel Citation.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 26, 2017, at 5:50 AM, Jack Davis <jdavi...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Edsel Turnpike Cruiser?
> 
> J
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill" <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:38:24 PM
> Subject: Stupid car question
> 
> So I saw one of these:
> http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
> on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone 
> tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?
> 
> thanks
> 
> bill
> 
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Collin Brendemuehl]

1. The tire is obviously the Continental kit.
2. wrt the bumper, it's the ski boat version :-)

Apparently to protect the spare. 
https://www.pinterest.dk/pin/160863017910132309/

I've never seen one. Interesting catch.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Jack Davis]

Edsel Turnpike Cruiser?

J

- Original Message -
From: "Bill" <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:38:24 PM
Subject: Stupid car question

So I saw one of these:
http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone 
tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?

thanks

bill


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 26.06.17 um 05:33 schrieb Ken Waller:
Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire out of 
the trunk and give more room in the trunk.


Wish there'd be something like this for today's vehicles. I'd like to 
have our car converted to LPG, if I only knew where to put the spare wheel.


Ralf

--
Ralf R. Radermacher  -  Köln/Cologne, Germany
Blog  : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com
Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Steve Cottrell]

On 25/6/17, Bill, discombobulated, unleashed:



>on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone 
>tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?

Clearly places for his and hers egos?

I rather like that ;-)



-- 


Cheers,
  Cotty


___/\__Broadcast, Corporate,
||  (O)  |Web Video Production
--
_



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Ken Waller]

Mainly a styling issue but functionally it did get the spare tire out of the 
trunk and give more room in the trunk.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Bill" <anotherdrunken...@gmail.com>

Subject: Stupid car question



So I saw one of these:
http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone tell 
me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?


thanks

bill



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[J.C. O'Connell]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 22:43:52 -0400, Paul Stenquist   
wrote:


It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other than  
to mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on period  
boats.


Paul via phone


On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill   
wrote:


So I saw one of these:
http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone  
tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?


thanks

bill



spare tire, continental kit

--
J.C. O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/



actually the mounting of tires externally on the body goes way back in  
automotive
history, but the trend was over by the sixties. It was still very popular  
in the

mid to late 50's however.


--
J.C. O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Jack Davis]

Edsel ?

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 25, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other than to 
> mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on period boats.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I saw one of these:
>>> http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
>>> on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone tell 
>>> me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> bill
>> spare tire, continental kit
>> 
>> -- 
>> J.C. O'Connell
>> hifis...@gate.net
>> -
>> Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
>> 
>> -- 
>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> PDML@pdml.net
>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
>> follow the directions.
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Paul Stenquist]

It was a bit of '60s styling weirdness. It served no purpose other than to 
mount the spare. The design evoked the diving platforms on period boats.

Paul via phone

> On Jun 25, 2017, at 8:54 PM, J.C. O'Connell  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> So I saw one of these:
>> http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
>> on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone tell 
>> me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>> 
> spare tire, continental kit
> 
> -- 
> J.C. O'Connell
> hifis...@gate.net
> -
> Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[J.C. O'Connell]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2017 20:38:24 -0400, Bill   
wrote:



So I saw one of these:
http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone  
tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?


thanks

bill



spare tire, continental kit

--
J.C. O'Connell
hifis...@gate.net
-
Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Zos Xavius]

edition=addition. long day.

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> http://www.forgottenfiberglass.com/and-now-for-something-completely-different/the-continental-kit-that-tire-on-the-back-by-rick-feibusch/
>
> I think this might shed some light on it. At first I thought that was
> an aftermarket edition, but ford did offer that bumper as a package.
> It looks like that was very much in vogue at the time to have a spare
> mounted on the rear like that. Ford just went crazy with it. I looked
> and there are other examples of edsels like that so it wasn't
> uncommon.
>
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
>> So I saw one of these:
>> http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
>> on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone tell
>> me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> bill
>>
>>
>> --
>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> PDML@pdml.net
>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
>> follow the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: Stupid car question

[Zos Xavius]

http://www.forgottenfiberglass.com/and-now-for-something-completely-different/the-continental-kit-that-tire-on-the-back-by-rick-feibusch/

I think this might shed some light on it. At first I thought that was
an aftermarket edition, but ford did offer that bumper as a package.
It looks like that was very much in vogue at the time to have a spare
mounted on the rear like that. Ford just went crazy with it. I looked
and there are other examples of edsels like that so it wasn't
uncommon.

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Bill  wrote:
> So I saw one of these:
> http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
> on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone tell
> me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?
>
> thanks
>
> bill
>
>
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
> follow the directions.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Stupid car question

[Bill]

So I saw one of these:
http://vefir.pressan.is/utlond/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/04/58-Edsel_Pacer-Conv-KM-08_RH-05.jpg
on a ferry ride last year. It's an Edsel. The question is, can anyone 
tell me what the purpose of the very elongated back bumper is?


thanks

bill


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.