Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-11 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 4/10/2007 9:28:20 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
As an aside question: my  cheapskate challenge entry:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/misc/cheapskate.html -  was it sufficiently 
unclattered?

Also comparing the above content  with, say, this  link:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/shfaim/content/IGP01583_large.html

can  someone please tell me what is wrong with the latter?

I am serious here.  I do want to establish a standard way to present my 
work that will be  acceptable to the widest crowd  possible.

Thanks.

Boris


Both are fine. I  prefer, personally, the second. Because I like dark 
backgrounds for photos on  the web. In real life I like off white mats for 
pictures, 
but on the web I find  dark backgrounds less distracting. In other words, if 
it was me I'd make your  gray darker. But that is me.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe  




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Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Jay Taylor
My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a  
possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,  
how do you like it ?
I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets  
bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able  
to view links back to my photos.
The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple  
pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited  
account already, but wonder how the paid service compares to PBase  
and some of the others.

Thanks,
JayT

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike  
their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting  
commercial websites.

That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or  
use .Mac ...

G

On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

 My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Stenquist

I've been using photo.net for quite a few years. It's fast and easy.  
I'm quite satisfied with it, and it includes a large community. So  
feedback is never a problem.
Paul
 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

 My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Many, if not most, ISPs offer free or very inexpensive, space on their
systems for subscribers.  I put my pics up on the Earthlink servers and it
works just fine for me.  Earthlink allows me to have eight mailboxes, and
each mailbox comes with a certain amount of free space which I use for
hosting pics and galleries.  The total is not a huge amount of space, but
since it's only used for posting pics, it's been adequate for my needs for
years.  Total cost = $0.00  All I needed to know how to access the space
and a few simple lines of HTML code that allows me to post the pics in the
manner I prefer, essentially using the same code for every pic.

While I can write the code for my own galleries - it's really simple and
easy to do, there are many free programs out there that can do it for you,
such as Porta, the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) and
several of the image editing programs, like Photoshop, will create
galleries with a variety of features and designs.

Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
Photonet or other such hosts.

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike  
 their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting  
 commercial websites.

 That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or  
 use .Mac ...

 G

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

  My annual subscription is coming up 
  on PBase and I'm considering a
  possible change of service. For those 
  of you who have used Photo.net,
  how do you like it ?
  I'm overall somewhat satisfied with 
  PBase, but sometimes find it gets
  bogged down with slow uploading 
 . and some folks don't seem to be able
  to view links back to my photos.
  The upload feature of selecting a 
  single .zip files of multiple
  pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets 
  and galleries functions.
  I'd like to find out more about Photo.net 
  though. I have a limited
  account already, but wonder how the paid 
  service compares to PBase
  and some of the others.



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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread ann sanfedele
Jay Taylor wrote:

My annual subscription is coming up on PBase and I'm considering a  
possible change of service. For those of you who have used Photo.net,  
how do you like it ?
I'm overall somewhat satisfied with PBase, but sometimes find it gets  
bogged down with slow uploading and some folks don't seem to be able  
to view links back to my photos.
The upload feature of selecting a single .zip files of multiple  
pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets and galleries functions.
I'd like to find out more about Photo.net though. I have a limited  
account already, but wonder how the paid service compares to PBase  
and some of the others.

Thanks,
JayT
  

Jay, I am really loving smugmug - check that out - and if you
do and mention me (annsan.smugmug.com) I get a small bit of moolah and 
you get a discount too.

I've never gotten such fast responses in email to questions and they are 
very nice and helpful -
the themes are nice and depending on the type of account you have you 
can do a lot of customizing...
I've barely scratched the surface there.


The general link to them is just www.smugmug.com

ann

  




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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
working. Or call me lazy.

Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
close enough for the time being.


Tom C.


From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700

Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
Photonet or other such hosts.

Shel



  [Original Message]
  From: Godfrey DiGiorgi

  I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
  their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
  commercial websites.
 
  That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
  use .Mac ...
 
  G
 
  On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
 
   My annual subscription is coming up
   on PBase and I'm considering a
   possible change of service. For those
   of you who have used Photo.net,
   how do you like it ?
   I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
   PBase, but sometimes find it gets
   bogged down with slow uploading
  . and some folks don't seem to be able
   to view links back to my photos.
   The upload feature of selecting a
   single .zip files of multiple
   pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
   and galleries functions.
   I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
   though. I have a limited
   account already, but wonder how the paid
   service compares to PBase
   and some of the others.



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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of 
charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of folders.

But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making 
there my own very simple web page.

Boris


Tom C wrote:
 Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
 line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
 working. Or call me lazy.
 
 Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
 fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
 close enough for the time being.
 
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700

 Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
 Photonet or other such hosts.

 Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
 their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
 commercial websites.

 That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
 use .Mac ...

 G

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

 My annual subscription is coming up
 on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those
 of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
 PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading
 . and some folks don't seem to be able
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a
 single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
 and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
 though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid
 service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
Hi Boris,

I've had my own domain for 7 years and still haven't got a gallery up.  Now 
that's lazy! :-)

Tom C.



From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:09:36 +0300

I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of
charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of folders.

But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making
there my own very simple web page.

Boris


Tom C wrote:
  Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one 
single
  line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not
  working. Or call me lazy.
 
  Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net 
works
  fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's
  close enough for the time being.
 
 
  Tom C.
 
 
  From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
  Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
 
  Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to 
used
  Photonet or other such hosts.
 
  Shel
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
  I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
  their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
  commercial websites.
 
  That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
  use .Mac ...
 
  G
 
  On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
 
  My annual subscription is coming up
  on PBase and I'm considering a
  possible change of service. For those
  of you who have used Photo.net,
  how do you like it ?
  I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
  PBase, but sometimes find it gets
  bogged down with slow uploading
  . and some folks don't seem to be able
  to view links back to my photos.
  The upload feature of selecting a
  single .zip files of multiple
  pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
  and galleries functions.
  I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
  though. I have a limited
  account already, but wonder how the paid
  service compares to PBase
  and some of the others.
 
 
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Tom,

I can certainly understand your POV, and far be it from me to dissuade you.
I'd like to point out one other thing: Once the three or four lines of code
were written, there was no need to write any more code for subsequent pics,
and, had I chosen to do so, I could have set things up just to post the
pics without any code whatsoever.

Boris, I find your picture posting site just too busy, which, IMO, takes
away from a good, simple presentation which focuses on the photograph. 
Your pics - and the pics of many others on the PDML - can benefit from
better, simpler presentations.

I mentioned Godders setup for his gallery as being a good one.  While his
setup for single pics is also good in many ways, there are some other
presentations I like quite a bit.  Bruce Dayton's pics are nicely and
simply presented with a consistent format, and I can always count on being
able to concentrate on his photos rather than being distracted by
peripheral things in the presentation.  There are some other presentations
that I like as well.  Bill Robb seems to have simple and direct
presentations.

As an aside, it was Bill who showed me how easy it was to put pics up the
way I wanted them to appear, quite a few years ago ;-))

Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I am mostly like you, Tom. So I chose not.contaxg.com. It is free of 
 charge. It allows multiple downloads and very convenient system of
folders.

 But since recently I am leaning towards buying my own domain and making 
 there my own very simple web page.

 Boris


 Tom C wrote:
  Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one
single 
  line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm
not 
  working. Or call me lazy.
  
  Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net
works 
  fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but
it's 
  close enough for the time being.



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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

 ...  the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) ...

Shel,

I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
X included TextEdit application for the cheapskates thread as what  
I normally use to write HTML.

Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.

I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.

Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
do it with good tools... ;-)

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi,

You posted two galleries before the cheapskate thread, both of which used a
horizontal format.  One was the window mannequins, the other was mostly (or
completely) of trees, iirc.  I thought those were with some template that
you used.  In any case, those presentations were simple, direct, easy to
maneuver through 


Shel



 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 

 I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
 X included TextEdit application for the cheapskates thread as what  
 I normally use to write HTML.

 Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
 advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
 processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
 for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
 lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
 it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.

 I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
 templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
 very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.

 Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
 do it with good tools... ;-)

 G

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
html ain't programming.

Tom C wrote:
 Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one single 
 line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not 
 working. Or call me lazy.

 Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net works 
 fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's 
 close enough for the time being.


 Tom C.


   
 From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700

 Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
 Photonet or other such hosts.

 Shel



 
 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
   
 I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
 their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
 commercial websites.

 That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
 use .Mac ...

 G

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

   
 My annual subscription is coming up
 on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those
 of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
 PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading
 
 . and some folks don't seem to be able
   
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a
 single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
 and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
 though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid
 service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.
 

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Tom C
It's close enough...

Tom C.


From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:24:42 -0400

html ain't programming.

Tom C wrote:
  Because I work all day in the IT field and I'm loathe to write one 
single
  line of HTML code. I like photography, not more programming when I'm not
  working. Or call me lazy.
 
  Someday I will likely have my own gallery, but until then photo.net 
works
  fine for easily and quickly displaying images.  It's not ideal, but it's
  close enough for the time being.
 
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 
  From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?
  Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:56:28 -0700
 
  Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to 
used
  Photonet or other such hosts.
 
  Shel
 
 
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
 
  I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike
  their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting
  commercial websites.
 
  That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or
  use .Mac ...
 
  G
 
  On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:
 
 
  My annual subscription is coming up
  on PBase and I'm considering a
  possible change of service. For those
  of you who have used Photo.net,
  how do you like it ?
  I'm overall somewhat satisfied with
  PBase, but sometimes find it gets
  bogged down with slow uploading
 
  . and some folks don't seem to be able
 
  to view links back to my photos.
  The upload feature of selecting a
  single .zip files of multiple
  pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets
  and galleries functions.
  I'd like to find out more about Photo.net
  though. I have a limited
  account already, but wonder how the paid
  service compares to PBase
  and some of the others.
 
 
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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
I'll second Shel on that.  I use earthlink as well, and you get a total 
of 80mb divided over 8 sites.  Plenty of space to put up a lot of web 
sized photos.  There are also free hosting sites you could look into.  
You can use your own html and hot link photos you store on quite a few 
of them, if you so desire.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 Many, if not most, ISPs offer free or very inexpensive, space on their
 systems for subscribers.  I put my pics up on the Earthlink servers and it
 works just fine for me.  Earthlink allows me to have eight mailboxes, and
 each mailbox comes with a certain amount of free space which I use for
 hosting pics and galleries.  The total is not a huge amount of space, but
 since it's only used for posting pics, it's been adequate for my needs for
 years.  Total cost = $0.00  All I needed to know how to access the space
 and a few simple lines of HTML code that allows me to post the pics in the
 manner I prefer, essentially using the same code for every pic.

 While I can write the code for my own galleries - it's really simple and
 easy to do, there are many free programs out there that can do it for you,
 such as Porta, the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) and
 several of the image editing programs, like Photoshop, will create
 galleries with a variety of features and designs.

 Unless your ISP doesn't allow you any free space, I see no reason to used
 Photonet or other such hosts.

 Shel



   
 [Original Message]
 From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
 

   
 I've had an account on Photo.net forever, but I generally dislike  
 their album/display tools. Same goes for most of the picture hosting  
 commercial websites.

 That's why I build my own pages and lease my own web server, or  
 use .Mac ...

 G

 On Apr 10, 2007, at 8:12 AM, Jay Taylor wrote:

 
 My annual subscription is coming up 
 on PBase and I'm considering a
 possible change of service. For those 
 of you who have used Photo.net,
 how do you like it ?
 I'm overall somewhat satisfied with 
 PBase, but sometimes find it gets
 bogged down with slow uploading 
   
 . and some folks don't seem to be able
 
 to view links back to my photos.
 The upload feature of selecting a 
 single .zip files of multiple
 pictures is nice as well as the Style Sheets 
 and galleries functions.
 I'd like to find out more about Photo.net 
 though. I have a limited
 account already, but wonder how the paid 
 service compares to PBase
 and some of the others.
   



   


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom C wrote:

From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

html ain't programming.

It's close enough...

More importantly... it's just as much work :)

Personally, I'm looking into getting some kind of database back end for 
the photo section of my web site. All the ones I've seen are quite 
expensive, though.


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RE: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Bob W
You're all making things too complicated. Use Lightroom.

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 Tom C wrote:
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 html ain't programming.
 
 It's close enough...
 
 More importantly... it's just as much work :)
 
 Personally, I'm looking into getting some kind of database 
 back end for 
 the photo section of my web site. All the ones I've seen are quite 
 expensive, though.


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:23 PM, Bob W wrote:

 You're all making things too complicated. Use Lightroom.

Yes, that works too. I find the presentation styles available a  
little fussier than I prefer, however.

Godfrey

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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 You posted two galleries before the cheapskate thread, both of  
 which used a
 horizontal format.  One was the window mannequins, the other was  
 mostly (or
 completely) of trees, iirc.  I thought those were with some  
 template that
 you used.  In any case, those presentations were simple, direct,  
 easy to
 maneuver through 


AH, you're thinking about the Flash presentation software,  
Autoviewer by Airtight. Yes, that's a free utility available from
   http://www.airtightinteractive.com/projects/autoviewer/

It does require some setup editing and it requires that you have a  
web server somewhere to put your photos on to use it. Once you do,  
however, it can be pretty easy to just load pictures and the  
associated XML control file as desired. I've got it in use on my  
photo website in most of the recent collections ... for instance, on
   http://www.gdgphoto.com/TOF/index.html
there's a link to an Autoviewer presentation of the images just below  
the words Thumbnail Gallery.

Godfrey
   www.gdgphoto.com



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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread P. J. Alling
It really depends on how much work you want to put into it.  I can 
produce a very quick html gallery with almost no work at all.  Much 
easier than trying to do something that looks custom in VB, VC or Java.

Mark Roberts wrote:
 Tom C wrote:

   
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 html ain't programming.

   
 It's close enough...
 

 More importantly... it's just as much work :)

 Personally, I'm looking into getting some kind of database back end for 
 the photo section of my web site. All the ones I've seen are quite 
 expensive, though.


   


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Re: RE: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

You're all making things too complicated. Use Lightroom.

I don't think that would fill my need for a web server database...


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:

It really depends on how much work you want to put into it.  I can 
produce a very quick html gallery with almost no work at all.  Much 
easier than trying to do something that looks custom in VB, VC or Java.

I want to be able to run queries, though. To bring up all photos of 
wildlife, for example. Or BW. Or landscapes, or abstracts. Or whatever.
 With formatting set up so all I have to do is drop the images into a 
directory and assign keywords, etc. Such applications do exist, but 
they're pricey from what I've seen.



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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Paul Sorenson
Porta includes a Flash option called SimpleViewer, which is an iteration 
of Godfrey's Autoviewer.  When you first view the site it offers the 
option of viewing in HTML if you don't have Flash installed.  There is a 
bug in the SimpleViewer crop/fit options for thumbnails - if you choose 
fit the program errors out and closes.  Either the crop option or no 
thumbnails option work fine.  You can run Porta on Linux using Wine.

An example is here...

http://home.earthlink.net/~allaround6/calbirthday/

-P

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Apr 10, 2007, at 12:03 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 You posted two galleries before the cheapskate thread, both of  
 which used a
 horizontal format.  One was the window mannequins, the other was  
 mostly (or
 completely) of trees, iirc.  I thought those were with some  
 template that
 you used.  In any case, those presentations were simple, direct,  
 easy to
 maneuver through 
 
 
 AH, you're thinking about the Flash presentation software,  
 Autoviewer by Airtight. Yes, that's a free utility available from
http://www.airtightinteractive.com/projects/autoviewer/
 
 It does require some setup editing and it requires that you have a  
 web server somewhere to put your photos on to use it. Once you do,  
 however, it can be pretty easy to just load pictures and the  
 associated XML control file as desired. I've got it in use on my  
 photo website in most of the recent collections ... for instance, on
http://www.gdgphoto.com/TOF/index.html
 there's a link to an Autoviewer presentation of the images just below  
 the words Thumbnail Gallery.
 
 Godfrey
www.gdgphoto.com
 
 
 


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Re: Web Hosting: PBase or Photo.net?

2007-04-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

I agree with what Godfrey says. I also like, or to be more precise, 
don't mind, writing HTML directly. As of recently I've found the 
PageBreeze editor to be the best tool for me. It allows WYSIWYG editing 
and direct HTML code editing with very easy interface.

However, I am too lazy and too disorganized to properly maintain all the 
necessary things.

Let me just notice that the last time I updated my web page before most 
recent burst was Sept 2006 and before that Mar 2005.

I most definitely like the Web tool that LightRoom has. I may want to 
take a closer look at customization as per Shel's comments.

As an aside question: my cheapskate challenge entry:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/misc/cheapskate.html - was it sufficiently 
unclattered?

Also comparing the above content with, say, this link:
http://boris.isra-shop.com/shfaim/content/IGP01583_large.html

can someone please tell me what is wrong with the latter?

I am serious here. I do want to establish a standard way to present my 
work that will be acceptable to the widest crowd possible.

Thanks.

Boris

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:56 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
 
 ...  the program Godders uses (I think he said it's free) ...
 
 Shel,
 
 I think you're mistaking the way I wrote simple HTML using the Mac OS  
 X included TextEdit application for the cheapskates thread as what  
 I normally use to write HTML.
 
 Editors with HTML tools and HTML generators pose a significant  
 advantage over writing from scratch with a simple text editor or word  
 processor. Normally I use a pro-quality source code editor (BBEdit,  
 for those who would like a good one on Mac OS X...): it includes a  
 lot of excellent HTML constructs and is language-context sensitive so  
 it helps keep me from making gross mistakes in syntax.
 
 I use Photoshop, Lightroom and iView MediaPro to generate HTML  
 templates for more complex presentation layouts. I don't use them  
 very much. iView's HTML code is simpler, generally, and easier to edit.
 
 Unlike some, I enjoy writing HTML occasionally. It's so much nicer to  
 do it with good tools... ;-)
 
 G
 


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