Flash on ZX-5N
Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Yup. The spring in mine gave up (or disappeared...). I have to hold it up to use it...but it works. Bong On 9/6/07, Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
That should be weak point. P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? It works just find on mine, but I hardly ever use it. Then again, I'm not very careful when it comes to packing the camera in a nice camera bag and carrying gently around (or rather, not doing just that.) As suggested by the other response and what I've heard before, it seems like the most likely type of failure is that a spring or whatever breaks so that it won't stay up. In fact, I very nearly bought an MZ-5n in that condition on eBay a couple of days ago, but didn't quite manage to get the winning bid. I think someone at some point posted an explanation of how he fixed such a problem at one point. This somehow reminds me of some of the spam mails I tend to get. Hmmm... - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Thanks, Bong. You are at least the second person who has conveyed such to me. This is what I had suspected. I wonder if the lil' flash on that expensive MZ-S is the same...or has the same operational tendency? I would be outraged if I paid several hundred dollars for a MZ-S body and the pop-up failed to work sometime thereafter. Yes, I know, real camera people use big honking flashes that cost as much as my car, but, for me, a body costing that much should be flawless. Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Bong Manayon wrote: Yup. The spring in mine gave up (or disappeared...). I have to hold it up to use it...but it works. Bong On 9/6/07, Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 12:49:00PM -0400, Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, Bong. You are at least the second person who has conveyed such to me. This is what I had suspected. I wonder if the lil' flash on that expensive MZ-S is the same...or has the same operational tendency? I would be outraged if I paid several hundred dollars for a MZ-S body and the pop-up failed to work sometime thereafter. Yes, I know, real camera people use big honking flashes that cost as much as my car, but, for me, a body costing that much should be flawless. Glen That's cutting off your nose to spite your face. The good reasons for buying an MZ-S have nothing to do with the cruddy little onboard flash. Mine hasn't failed (and my MZ-S was a very early one; so early that it had to go back to Pentax to have the frame advance problem fixed), but I rarely use flash, and even more rarely rely on a built-in one. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
The MZ-S's popup flash has one real use. It can control a P-TTL flash wirelessly. Popups are mostly useless for anything else. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Thank you, Toralf. While the problem may seem minor, I still say: why have a rather useless (and perhaps inoperable) flash atop my body? Things such as these tend to irritate me. While I have not made a final decision, I am presently leaning toward getting a second ZX-M body rather than the ZX-5N. The only differences between the two are the meter and lens mount. With regard to the meter, I gather I will become less dependent on it as my skill (and experience) develop. With regard to the plastic vs. metal lens mount ring: I tend to be extremely careful with the things I own...I have had my ZX- M body for over three years, and the plastic mount still looks as it did when I first took the body out of the box. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? It works just find on mine, but I hardly ever use it. Then again, I'm not very careful when it comes to packing the camera in a nice camera bag and carrying gently around (or rather, not doing just that.) As suggested by the other response and what I've heard before, it seems like the most likely type of failure is that a spring or whatever breaks so that it won't stay up. In fact, I very nearly bought an MZ-5n in that condition on eBay a couple of days ago, but didn't quite manage to get the winning bid. I think someone at some point posted an explanation of how he fixed such a problem at one point. This somehow reminds me of some of the spam mails I tend to get. Hmmm... - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Thank you, PJ. This is an interesting point. I have just posted some further thoughts regarding my ZX-M vs. ZX-5N decision. What do you think? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. yes it is. Here's an example of when I was glad to have the pop-up flash available: http://www.robertstech.com/pages/gfm_14.htm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
On 9/6/07, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MZ-S's popup flash has one real use. It can control a P-TTL flash wirelessly. Popups are mostly useless for anything else. Same as planning departments. Dave -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it's pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
On 9/7/07, Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, PJ. This is an interesting point. I have just posted some further thoughts regarding my ZX-M vs. ZX-5N decision. What do you think? Regards, Glen For a long time I worked with a ZX-M/ZX-5N combo (actually an MZ-M/MZ-5n in my location) until I bought an *ist DS. Functions of economics forced me to part with one of the ZXs I ended up selling the ZX-M. For that moment anyway it was the better decision, but I realized that maybe it should have been the other way around. I was more creative with the ZX-M rather than the ZX-5N (as of this writing, virtually all of the ZX-M photos in the Pentax Photo Gallery are mine). I think its the split-image and manual focus that makes me 'think' through more but I never really thought hard about it. These days, when shooting film, I tend to pick up my MX more than the ZX-5N for that same reason... Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
I've had both. I got rid of the ZX-M and kept the 5n for two reasons. The Pentaprism in the 5n was in every way superior to the Pentamirror in the M, (better coverage, higher magnification, brighter viewing with better manual focusing), and the ability to explicitly change metering patterns rather than depending on the lens mounted on the camera doing it.(I currently 7 Pentax fK mount, (Film) and 4 Pentax screw mount bodies floating around that I don't use enough as it is, not to mention the other cameras, I've accumulated over the years, otherwise I might have kept both). Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, PJ. This is an interesting point. I have just posted some further thoughts regarding my ZX-M vs. ZX-5N decision. What do you think? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Thank you for the detailed comments. Hence, I gather your vote in my M vs. 5n decision would be for the 5n? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 2:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I've had both. I got rid of the ZX-M and kept the 5n for two reasons. The Pentaprism in the 5n was in every way superior to the Pentamirror in the M, (better coverage, higher magnification, brighter viewing with better manual focusing), and the ability to explicitly change metering patterns rather than depending on the lens mounted on the camera doing it.(I currently 7 Pentax fK mount, (Film) and 4 Pentax screw mount bodies floating around that I don't use enough as it is, not to mention the other cameras, I've accumulated over the years, otherwise I might have kept both). Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, PJ. This is an interesting point. I have just posted some further thoughts regarding my ZX-M vs. ZX-5N decision. What do you think? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Toralf. While the problem may seem minor, I still say: why have a rather useless (and perhaps inoperable) flash atop my body? Things such as these tend to irritate me. Yeah, I know what you mean. Even though I'd be quite all right without the popup flash, and sometimes think I'd like the camera even more if it didn't have one, it would quite definitely annoy the heck out of me if it were to break. When I considered buying a camera where it wasn't quite operational, it was of course because I imagined I would be able to fix it. I really don't think concerns about the flash should hold you back from buying a -5n, though. It probably breaks easily if you are reckless or absent minded when it's up, otherwise you should be OK. That said, I also see the attraction of a non-AF body. Personally, I'd be more likely to go for something even more manual, i.e. a body without a motor drive, and possibly with a mechanical shutter - but you have already covered at least on of those, haven't you? While I have not made a final decision, I am presently leaning toward getting a second ZX-M body rather than the ZX-5N. The only differences between the two are the meter and lens mount. With regard to the meter, I gather I will become less dependent on it as my skill (and experience) develop. The problem is that if multi-segment metering is all you can get, the skill won't really help you a lot - as others have pointed out. But perhaps you are planning to use mainly lenses where center-weighted will be selected? With regard to the plastic vs. metal lens mount ring: I tend to be extremely careful with the things I own...I have had my ZX- M body for over three years, and the plastic mount still looks as it did when I first took the body out of the box. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? It works just find on mine, but I hardly ever use it. Then again, I'm not very careful when it comes to packing the camera in a nice camera bag and carrying gently around (or rather, not doing just that.) As suggested by the other response and what I've heard before, it seems like the most likely type of failure is that a spring or whatever breaks so that it won't stay up. In fact, I very nearly bought an MZ-5n in that condition on eBay a couple of days ago, but didn't quite manage to get the winning bid. I think someone at some point posted an explanation of how he fixed such a problem at one point. This somehow reminds me of some of the spam mails I tend to get. Hmmm... - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N (Adam?)
Thanks, PJ. If I end up going for the M, would this be a wrong decision? I am weighing your comments seriously, and I am also considering what others have said. I tend to agree with your perspectives. Adam, if you are reading this, what do you think?--do you vote for the ZX-M or the ZX5n? Thanks again, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 3:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Pretty much, the only thing the M has going for it is it's split image focus aid, which I've learned to not use anyway... Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you for the detailed comments. Hence, I gather your vote in my M vs. 5n decision would be for the 5n? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 2:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I've had both. I got rid of the ZX-M and kept the 5n for two reasons. The Pentaprism in the 5n was in every way superior to the Pentamirror in the M, (better coverage, higher magnification, brighter viewing with better manual focusing), and the ability to explicitly change metering patterns rather than depending on the lens mounted on the camera doing it.(I currently 7 Pentax fK mount, (Film) and 4 Pentax screw mount bodies floating around that I don't use enough as it is, not to mention the other cameras, I've accumulated over the years, otherwise I might have kept both). Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, PJ. This is an interesting point. I have just posted some further thoughts regarding my ZX-M vs. ZX-5N decision. What do you think? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N (Adam?)
I'd vote for the 5n, if only for the selectable metering over mode-based metering selection. It's a nice little camera. -Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, PJ. If I end up going for the M, would this be a wrong decision? I am weighing your comments seriously, and I am also considering what others have said. I tend to agree with your perspectives. Adam, if you are reading this, what do you think?--do you vote for the ZX-M or the ZX5n? Thanks again, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Great thoughts, here, Toralf. Actually, I prefer using the A lenses, and would rather not have to step backward and purchase some M lenses. This is a tough decision, as I like aspects of both the M and 5n, though, and it is difficult to say which I would like better (without having the 5n here). Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, Toralf. While the problem may seem minor, I still say: why have a rather useless (and perhaps inoperable) flash atop my body? Things such as these tend to irritate me. Yeah, I know what you mean. Even though I'd be quite all right without the popup flash, and sometimes think I'd like the camera even more if it didn't have one, it would quite definitely annoy the heck out of me if it were to break. When I considered buying a camera where it wasn't quite operational, it was of course because I imagined I would be able to fix it. I really don't think concerns about the flash should hold you back from buying a -5n, though. It probably breaks easily if you are reckless or absent minded when it's up, otherwise you should be OK. That said, I also see the attraction of a non-AF body. Personally, I'd be more likely to go for something even more manual, i.e. a body without a motor drive, and possibly with a mechanical shutter - but you have already covered at least on of those, haven't you? While I have not made a final decision, I am presently leaning toward getting a second ZX-M body rather than the ZX-5N. The only differences between the two are the meter and lens mount. With regard to the meter, I gather I will become less dependent on it as my skill (and experience) develop. The problem is that if multi-segment metering is all you can get, the skill won't really help you a lot - as others have pointed out. But perhaps you are planning to use mainly lenses where center-weighted will be selected? With regard to the plastic vs. metal lens mount ring: I tend to be extremely careful with the things I own...I have had my ZX- M body for over three years, and the plastic mount still looks as it did when I first took the body out of the box. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Toralf Lund wrote: Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? It works just find on mine, but I hardly ever use it. Then again, I'm not very careful when it comes to packing the camera in a nice camera bag and carrying gently around (or rather, not doing just that.) As suggested by the other response and what I've heard before, it seems like the most likely type of failure is that a spring or whatever breaks so that it won't stay up. In fact, I very nearly bought an MZ-5n in that condition on eBay a couple of days ago, but didn't quite manage to get the winning bid. I think someone at some point posted an explanation of how he fixed such a problem at one point. This somehow reminds me of some of the spam mails I tend to get. Hmmm... - T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Yep. Like I said earlier, in some ways I wish my MZ-5n didn't have a flash, because I rather like stuff that's plain, simple, straight forward (etc) and without any unnecessary extras (and this feeling seems to get stronger as time goes by...) But, you do have a point. I'm actually trying to learn about fill flash these days (better late than never), and the popup is quite usable for that purpose, isn't it? Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Pretty much, the only thing the M has going for it is it's split image focus aid, which I've learned to not use anyway... Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you for the detailed comments. Hence, I gather your vote in my M vs. 5n decision would be for the 5n? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 2:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I've had both. I got rid of the ZX-M and kept the 5n for two reasons. The Pentaprism in the 5n was in every way superior to the Pentamirror in the M, (better coverage, higher magnification, brighter viewing with better manual focusing), and the ability to explicitly change metering patterns rather than depending on the lens mounted on the camera doing it.(I currently 7 Pentax fK mount, (Film) and 4 Pentax screw mount bodies floating around that I don't use enough as it is, not to mention the other cameras, I've accumulated over the years, otherwise I might have kept both). Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, PJ. This is an interesting point. I have just posted some further thoughts regarding my ZX-M vs. ZX-5N decision. What do you think? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Frankly, the AF is so primitive on the 5n that I consider it a MF body. When I had mine, I tried AF a couple times, turned it off and never used it again. It was dog-slow in comparison to every other AF body I've owned (even the circa-1988 Nikon F801). -Adam Toralf Lund wrote: I really don't think concerns about the flash should hold you back from buying a -5n, though. It probably breaks easily if you are reckless or absent minded when it's up, otherwise you should be OK. That said, I also see the attraction of a non-AF body. Personally, I'd be more likely to go for something even more manual, i.e. a body without a motor drive, and possibly with a mechanical shutter - but you have already covered at least on of those, haven't you? While I have not made a final decision, I am presently leaning toward getting a second ZX-M body rather than the ZX-5N. The only differences between the two are the meter and lens mount. With regard to the meter, I gather I will become less dependent on it as my skill (and experience) develop. The problem is that if multi-segment metering is all you can get, the skill won't really help you a lot - as others have pointed out. But perhaps you are planning to use mainly lenses where center-weighted will be selected? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Adam Maas wrote: Frankly, the AF is so primitive on the 5n that I consider it a MF body. When I had mine, I tried AF a couple times, turned it off and never used it again. It was dog-slow in comparison to every other AF body I've owned (even the circa-1988 Nikon F801). Really? I have only one other AF body, and that's a Pentax PZ-20 which I suppose have a similar AF setup to the MZ-5n I've tried a few Canon/Nikons though, including some of the digitals, and their AF didn't really strike me as faster. I haven't tested any high-end bodies, or the lenses, though (but the MZ-5n was not really high-end either, was it?). But that's also an age-old discussion on this list... -Adam Toralf Lund wrote: I really don't think concerns about the flash should hold you back from buying a -5n, though. It probably breaks easily if you are reckless or absent minded when it's up, otherwise you should be OK. That said, I also see the attraction of a non-AF body. Personally, I'd be more likely to go for something even more manual, i.e. a body without a motor drive, and possibly with a mechanical shutter - but you have already covered at least on of those, haven't you? While I have not made a final decision, I am presently leaning toward getting a second ZX-M body rather than the ZX-5N. The only differences between the two are the meter and lens mount. With regard to the meter, I gather I will become less dependent on it as my skill (and experience) develop. The problem is that if multi-segment metering is all you can get, the skill won't really help you a lot - as others have pointed out. But perhaps you are planning to use mainly lenses where center-weighted will be selected? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
- Original Message - From: Glen Tortorella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: Flash on ZX-5N why have a rather useless (and perhaps inoperable) flash atop my body? I knew a girl once with a useless head on top of her body. But O that body :) CW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N
Toralf Lund wrote: Adam Maas wrote: Frankly, the AF is so primitive on the 5n that I consider it a MF body. When I had mine, I tried AF a couple times, turned it off and never used it again. It was dog-slow in comparison to every other AF body I've owned (even the circa-1988 Nikon F801). Really? I have only one other AF body, and that's a Pentax PZ-20 which I suppose have a similar AF setup to the MZ-5n I've tried a few Canon/Nikons though, including some of the digitals, and their AF didn't really strike me as faster. I haven't tested any high-end bodies, or the lenses, though (but the MZ-5n was not really high-end either, was it?). But that's also an age-old discussion on this list... The primary issue with the MZ-5n is its lack of a cross sensor. Linear sensors are only sensitive to contrast in one orientation and perform much less well. That's why essentially every other maker has been using at least centre cross sensor since the mid 90's. But I found the MZ-5n to lock on noticably slower and hunt a lot more than even the primitive AF on the F801 (which has one linear sensor, and is a 1st-gen AF body comparable to an SF1) or the F65 and D50 that I used to own (Those two share the same AF unit, and the F65 is otherwise comparable or inferior to a MZ-5n in features). My Rebel XS was also noticably faster at locking on (None of these bodies could really be called fast, but teh difference was noticable). I wouldn't even consider comparing a MZ-5n's AF to my current F100, or the EOS 3 and F90x that were my earlier high-performance AF bodies (the F100 and EOS 3 in particular run rings around any Pentax AF body in performance, but are also true Pro bodies barely a step down from Nikon and Canon's highest-end models) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Flash on ZX-5N (Adam?)
I already voted, if you can get only one go with the 5n, Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, PJ. If I end up going for the M, would this be a wrong decision? I am weighing your comments seriously, and I am also considering what others have said. I tend to agree with your perspectives. Adam, if you are reading this, what do you think?--do you vote for the ZX-M or the ZX5n? Thanks again, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 3:52 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Pretty much, the only thing the M has going for it is it's split image focus aid, which I've learned to not use anyway... Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you for the detailed comments. Hence, I gather your vote in my M vs. 5n decision would be for the 5n? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 2:20 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I've had both. I got rid of the ZX-M and kept the 5n for two reasons. The Pentaprism in the 5n was in every way superior to the Pentamirror in the M, (better coverage, higher magnification, brighter viewing with better manual focusing), and the ability to explicitly change metering patterns rather than depending on the lens mounted on the camera doing it.(I currently 7 Pentax fK mount, (Film) and 4 Pentax screw mount bodies floating around that I don't use enough as it is, not to mention the other cameras, I've accumulated over the years, otherwise I might have kept both). Glen Tortorella wrote: Thank you, PJ. This is an interesting point. I have just posted some further thoughts regarding my ZX-M vs. ZX-5N decision. What do you think? Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:28 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: That said, I seldom use the built in flash, which means that it has very few opportunities to break, and when you need just a little bit of extra light, it's there. Glen Tortorella wrote: Thanks, P.J... In view of this, I question the decision to include these flashes on camera bodies. Obviously, no pro would use such a flash. For the rest of us, I say: if it is prone to failure or unreliable, then do not include it. Regards, Glen On Sep 6, 2007, at 12:09 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Yes, they're a week point, they break... Glen Tortorella wrote: Hi all, Has anyone had of heard of any problems with the pop-up flash on the ZX-5N (malfunctions, fails to pop up, etc.)? I tend to be skeptical about the longevity of these little flashes. Thanks, Glen -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
shutter won't fire on ZX-5n
Hi, I have a Pentax ZX-5n that won't fire the shutter at all times. It seems to auto focus and the metering works but the shutter doesn't fire. The batteries are new. Any ideas what could be going wrong? Any pointers appreciated. Is it worth talking to Pentax for a repair? Thanks, Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: shutter won't fire on ZX-5n
Every-time I've had a shutter go bad, it went bad. It wouldn't work at all. So my guess is there's something amiss between your shutter button and shutter. As to the worth of getting it fixed that depends on how much you like the camera. If it's just a matter of a loose wire somewhere, I doubt it'd be much to fix. On 3/2/07, Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a Pentax ZX-5n that won't fire the shutter at all times. It seems to auto focus and the metering works but the shutter doesn't fire. The batteries are new. Any ideas what could be going wrong? Any pointers appreciated. Is it worth talking to Pentax for a repair? Thanks, Gaurav -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- ~Nick Wright http://blog.phojonick.com/ http://www.phojonick.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: shutter won't fire on ZX-5n
I have a Pentax ZX-5n that won't fire the shutter at all times. It seems to auto focus and the metering works but the shutter doesn't fire. The batteries are new. Any ideas what could be going wrong? Any pointers appreciated. Is it worth talking to Pentax for a repair? It's only worth it if you're willing to pay for it. I bought a ZX-5n from Shel last fall that had a stuck-mirror problem (I mostly bought it for the battery grip, but I've wanted a ZX-5n for a while too). Turned out it was a poorly-made plastic cog in the mirrorbox that was stripped. Apparently it's a relatively common problem, and Pentax had a kit that repair shops could get to replace the plastic parts with metal parts. My local repair shop guy (APEX Camera Repair, if you're curious) said it would be between $85 and $125, depending on what parts actually needed replacing, and if I wanted the camera's broken flash fixed, too. When I can afford it, I'll be giving him the camera to fix, because it's worth it to me. John -- http://www.neovenator.com http://www.cafepress.com/neovenatorphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Mirror sticking on ZX-5n (was Re: FS - ZX-5n
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: a few months and it worked just fine. A couple of weeks ago the mirror locked up just as I was about to sell it. So, there you have it - the mirror is still stuck. If interested, make an offer. Off list please. Thanks! Mine did this last week as I was playing around with it, so is there some sort of failure that's known, and an easy way to correct it, or does it mean that its due to be checked up by the folks at the repair center? -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mirror sticking on ZX-5n (was Re: FS - ZX-5n
I know this is stupid but did you try replacing the batteries? gfen wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: a few months and it worked just fine. A couple of weeks ago the mirror locked up just as I was about to sell it. So, there you have it - the mirror is still stuck. If interested, make an offer. Off list please. Thanks! Mine did this last week as I was playing around with it, so is there some sort of failure that's known, and an easy way to correct it, or does it mean that its due to be checked up by the folks at the repair center? -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mirror sticking on ZX-5n (was Re: FS - ZX-5n
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: I know this is stupid but did you try replacing the batteries? Yes, and no. It had a set of the CR2 or whatever the little buggers are in it, which don't register as low on the LCD. I didn't replae those because I don't have another set. I did, however, put the battery grip back on with a fresh set of AA's. It looks like the shutter is stuck in mid-movement. I let it sit under a light for a bit to warm up, just incase it was non-greasy-grease that caused it. After letting it sit, sans-batteries, I put 'em back in, tapped the button and watched the mirror go down, and then promptly go right back up and lock into place again. There's also a lovely whining noise from a motor every so often. Its been sitting sans-batteries on a shelf now for a week or two. -- http://www.infotainment.org - more fun than a poke in your eye. http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mirror sticking on ZX-5n (was Re: FS - ZX-5n
Oh well, it was a thought. gfen wrote: On Wed, 25 Oct 2006, P. J. Alling wrote: I know this is stupid but did you try replacing the batteries? Yes, and no. It had a set of the CR2 or whatever the little buggers are in it, which don't register as low on the LCD. I didn't replae those because I don't have another set. I did, however, put the battery grip back on with a fresh set of AA's. It looks like the shutter is stuck in mid-movement. I let it sit under a light for a bit to warm up, just incase it was non-greasy-grease that caused it. After letting it sit, sans-batteries, I put 'em back in, tapped the button and watched the mirror go down, and then promptly go right back up and lock into place again. There's also a lovely whining noise from a motor every so often. Its been sitting sans-batteries on a shelf now for a week or two. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Mirror sticking on ZX-5n (was Re: FS - ZX-5n
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: a few months and it worked just fine. A couple of weeks ago the mirror locked up just as I was about to sell it. So, there you have it - the mirror is still stuck. If interested, make an offer. Off list please. Thanks! Mine did this last week as I was playing around with it, so is there some sort of failure that's known, and an easy way to correct it, or does it mean that its due to be checked up by the folks at the repair center? Sounds like the typical problem associated with MZ/ZX cameras where the plastic gear on the mirror motor is cracked. A brass gear has been issued by Pentax since but the labour to have it replaced is steep. I fixed my MZ-3 once and the whole body had to be disassemlbed basically. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
FS - ZX-5n
I'm offering this for a friend and sometimes list participant. The camera has seen little use and is in very good cosmetic condition. It has the date back and comes with the battery thing attached. I used the camera for a few months and it worked just fine. A couple of weeks ago the mirror locked up just as I was about to sell it. So, there you have it - the mirror is still stuck. If interested, make an offer. Off list please. Thanks! Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: FS - ZX-5n
Would $50 be acceptable? Let me know. Thanks, John -- http://www.neovenator.com AIM: Neopifex Hey, I'm an artist. I can do whatever I want and pretend I'm making a statement. - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML PDML@pdml.net Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 7:56 AM Subject: FS - ZX-5n I'm offering this for a friend and sometimes list participant. The camera has seen little use and is in very good cosmetic condition. It has the date back and comes with the battery thing attached. I used the camera for a few months and it worked just fine. A couple of weeks ago the mirror locked up just as I was about to sell it. So, there you have it - the mirror is still stuck. If interested, make an offer. Off list please. Thanks! Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've a ZX-5n which worked great the last time I used it. I tried it today and the mirror is now locked up. The bats are good, but I may try even fresher bats later - the camera has the battery grip that takes four AA cells. The camera whirs, film rewinds and loads, but mirror remains up. Tried a couple of different lenses with no luck. Any suggestions on how to get the mirror down and maybe get this thing working properly? Thanks! Was the mirror locked up when you picked it up or did it lock when you first fired it? If the latter, I would suspect a sticky seal. You should be able to pry it down if there is a convenient piece of metal to lever on. Of course, it will just do it again at the next shutter press but you should be able to see the sticky point. If the former, is there a mechanical lockup (a la LX) that may be engaged? m -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
I didn't look thru the finder before firing the first shot, so I don't know. I don't believe there's a mirror lock ... sad thing is, it's not my camera. It was loaned to me by a local list member and I took it from the equipment drawer to sell it for her to another local Pentaxian. Oh, well Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson Was the mirror locked up when you picked it up or did it lock when you first fired it? If the latter, I would suspect a sticky seal. You should be able to pry it down if there is a convenient piece of metal to lever on. Of course, it will just do it again at the next shutter press but you should be able to see the sticky point. If the former, is there a mechanical lockup (a la LX) that may be engaged? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I didn't look thru the finder before firing the first shot, so I don't know. I don't believe there's a mirror lock ... There isn't one. Sorry for your mishap, Shel. I can't remember what you have said in the past about competent repairers in your area; it may be worth a look and a quote. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 03:21:55 +0200, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've a ZX-5n which worked great the last time I used it. I tried it today and the mirror is now locked up. The bats are good, but I may try even fresher bats later - the camera has the battery grip that takes four AA cells. The camera whirs, film rewinds and loads, but mirror remains up. Tried a couple of different lenses with no luck. Any suggestions on how to get the mirror down and maybe get this thing working properly? Thanks! Hi Shel, If Don Sanderson doesn't chime in, check the archives for a post of his regarding film transport problems with the MZ/ZX camera's. If I recall correctly (chances are slim there, though) there is a weak gear in the film transport mechanism that needs replacement or adjustment. As mirror movement is linked to film transport, that might cause your problem. To Don it was a do-it-yourself repair... Hope this helps, -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
Shel, bring it to me at Reed's any time tues-sat and I'll see if there's anything I (or our technicians) can do for it here. If we can't fix it, I think your best bet would be Apex Camera Repair here in Walnut Creek. They do good work there and have fixed my 6x7 and Auto110 cameras in the past. John Celio I didn't look thru the finder before firing the first shot, so I don't know. I don't believe there's a mirror lock ... sad thing is, it's not my camera. It was loaned to me by a local list member and I took it from the equipment drawer to sell it for her to another local Pentaxian. Oh, well Shel [Original Message] From: mike wilson Was the mirror locked up when you picked it up or did it lock when you first fired it? If the latter, I would suspect a sticky seal. You should be able to pry it down if there is a convenient piece of metal to lever on. Of course, it will just do it again at the next shutter press but you should be able to see the sticky point. If the former, is there a mechanical lockup (a la LX) that may be engaged? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
Thanks for the offer, John ... it's not my camera so I'll have to ask Patsy what she wants to do. Shel [Original Message] From: John Celio Shel, bring it to me at Reed's any time tues-sat and I'll see if there's anything I (or our technicians) can do for it here. If we can't fix it, I think your best bet would be Apex Camera Repair here in Walnut Creek. They do good work there and have fixed my 6x7 and Auto110 cameras in the past. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. Thanks, Bill Lawlor www.wvlphotography.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
I have one that may be for sale. Shel [Original Message] From: Bill Lawlor I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
I have one. Bill Lawlor wrote: I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. Thanks, Bill Lawlor www.wvlphotography.com -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
P. J. Alling wrote: I have one. And not parting with it? Me too :)) Bill Lawlor wrote: I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. Thanks, Bill Lawlor -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|NK -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
ZX-5n Mirror Problem
I've a ZX-5n which worked great the last time I used it. I tried it today and the mirror is now locked up. The bats are good, but I may try even fresher bats later - the camera has the battery grip that takes four AA cells. The camera whirs, film rewinds and loads, but mirror remains up. Tried a couple of different lenses with no luck. Any suggestions on how to get the mirror down and maybe get this thing working properly? Thanks! Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: WTB ZX-5n
On 9/9/06, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one. I don't. Sorry. Bill Lawlor wrote: I'm looking for a reliable ZX-5n camera body. Thanks, Bill Lawlor www.wvlphotography.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
Did you try gently tapping the base plate on a counter to or something? Dave On 9/9/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've a ZX-5n which worked great the last time I used it. I tried it today and the mirror is now locked up. The bats are good, but I may try even fresher bats later - the camera has the battery grip that takes four AA cells. The camera whirs, film rewinds and loads, but mirror remains up. Tried a couple of different lenses with no luck. Any suggestions on how to get the mirror down and maybe get this thing working properly? Thanks! Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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My next suggestion would have been to hit it harder, but you've already tried that. :-) As I've never handled that camera I'm out of ideas. Dave On 9/9/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep - and not so gently as well ;-)) Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yep - and not so gently as well ;-)) Shel [Original Message] From: David Savage Did you try gently tapping the base plate on a counter to or something? Dave Shel Belinkoff wrote: I've a ZX-5n which worked great the last time I used it. I tried it today and the mirror is now locked up. The bats are good, but I may try even fresher bats later - the camera has the battery grip that takes four AA cells. The camera whirs, film rewinds and loads, but mirror remains up. Tried a couple of different lenses with no luck. Any suggestions on how to get the mirror down and maybe get this thing working properly? Thanks! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n Mirror Problem
It's a repair situation. Probably just a CLA. But that would cost more than the camera is worth. Put it on the shelf and admire it. Or download a repair manual and try a DIY fix. Paul On Sep 8, 2006, at 9:59 PM, David Savage wrote: My next suggestion would have been to hit it harder, but you've already tried that. :-) As I've never handled that camera I'm out of ideas. Dave On 9/9/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep - and not so gently as well ;-)) Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: ZX-5n
Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. In Europe this is equal to perhaps a week's wages or 2% of a persons annual income, before taxes. In Europe and USA (and a few more places), where the average income is high enough for people to buy an expensive (and not essential for survival) digital camera is only 10 % of the earths populatione Annual income pr capita (head):. The value of 1000 l milk = a 850 USD digital camera in percent of annual inciome pr. captita: USA: 40.000USD2 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Norway:40.000USD2 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Denmark: 33.000USD 3 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Japan 30.000USD3 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita UK: 29.600USD 3 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Israel: 20.800USD 4 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Russia: 10.700USD 8 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Malaysia: 10.400USD 8 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita China: 5.600 USD 15 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Lebanon: 5.000 USD 17 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Egypt: 4.400 USD 19 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Vietnam:2.700 USD 31 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Kenya: 1.100 USD 77 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Tanzania:700USD 121 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita (PS I don't know the price of milk in these countries - or the price of a digital camera. I used European price levels. I guess if you need perhaps 0-432 (4x6 print) photographs every year (less than one film each month/one photograph each day), it would be down right crazy to buy a digital camera. A lot of people would want an affordable camera (100-200 USD) (and then a film every now and then. I believe film will be arround for quite some time. Perhaps as long as a digital camera is more expensive than a film camera. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af jim kerslake Sendt: 22. juli 2006 08:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: ZX-5n jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. I could not resist a bit more... (sorry if it's been done before) .. 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint. I wish to complain about this roll of film what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique. Remarkable film, the Fuji Velvia, innit squire? Beautiful saturation The saturation don't enter into it ee's stone dead. There, it moved! No, it didn't, that was you winding the spool! I never!! Yes, you did! Look, I took the liberty of examining that Velvia when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting in its camera in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that film in, it would have over-exposed itself, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee! VOOM?!? Mate, this film wouldn't voom if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised! Well, I'd better replace it, then. Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of Fuji Velvia. I see. I see, I get the picture. I got a CF card (pause) Pray, does it render the plumage of a Norwegian parrot onto beautifully saturated transparencies at ISO 50? Nnn...not really. WELL IT'S HARDLY A B* REPLACEMENT THEN, IS IT?!!???!!? --- et cetera :-) - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: Re: ZX-5n jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 8230 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http
Re: ZX-5n
On 22/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: ZX-5n
PS: For SLR´s we're almost there. An *ist and a *ist DL is quite closely at the same price level (way to go Pentax). For NON-SLR cameras I beleive the difference will last a while. BTW: A Pentax K100D is less than half the price of the *ist D (in Denmark at least), when this was introduced 3 years ago. Regards http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 22. juli 2006 08:19 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: RE: ZX-5n Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. In Europe this is equal to perhaps a week's wages or 2% of a persons annual income, before taxes. In Europe and USA (and a few more places), where the average income is high enough for people to buy an expensive (and not essential for survival) digital camera is only 10 % of the earths populatione Annual income pr capita (head):. The value of 1000 l milk = a 850 USD digital camera in percent of annual inciome pr. captita: USA: 40.000USD2 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Norway:40.000USD2 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Denmark: 33.000USD 3 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Japan 30.000USD3 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita UK: 29.600USD 3 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Israel: 20.800USD 4 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Russia: 10.700USD 8 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Malaysia: 10.400USD 8 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita China: 5.600 USD 15 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Lebanon: 5.000 USD 17 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Egypt: 4.400 USD 19 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Vietnam:2.700 USD 31 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Kenya: 1.100 USD 77 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita Tanzania:700USD 121 Percent - a 850 USD camera in percent of annual income pr capita (PS I don't know the price of milk in these countries - or the price of a digital camera. I used European price levels. I guess if you need perhaps 0-432 (4x6 print) photographs every year (less than one film each month/one photograph each day), it would be down right crazy to buy a digital camera. A lot of people would want an affordable camera (100-200 USD) (and then a film every now and then. I believe film will be arround for quite some time. Perhaps as long as a digital camera is more expensive than a film camera. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af jim kerslake Sendt: 22. juli 2006 08:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: ZX-5n jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. I could not resist a bit more... (sorry if it's been done before) .. 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint. I wish to complain about this roll of film what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique. Remarkable film, the Fuji Velvia, innit squire? Beautiful saturation The saturation don't enter into it ee's stone dead. There, it moved! No, it didn't, that was you winding the spool! I never!! Yes, you did! Look, I took the liberty of examining that Velvia when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting in its camera in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that film in, it would have over-exposed itself, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee! VOOM?!? Mate, this film wouldn't voom if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised! Well, I'd better replace it, then. Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of Fuji Velvia. I see. I see, I get the picture. I got a CF card (pause) Pray, does it render the plumage of a Norwegian parrot onto beautifully saturated transparencies at ISO 50? Nnn...not really. WELL IT'S HARDLY A B* REPLACEMENT THEN, IS IT?!!???!!? --- et cetera :-) - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: Re: ZX-5n jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining
Re: ZX-5n
On 22/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. More with shake reduction. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: ZX-5n
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 22 July 2006 08:02 To: pentax list Subject: Re: ZX-5n On 22/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. More with shake reduction. Hey, how about a warning before posting stuff like this? Something like Not breakfast friendly would do. How many more times do I have to wipe toast and coffee off my monitor? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
Cotty wrote: On 22/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. More with shake reduction. I scream every time you post something like this, you know. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
- Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: ZX-5n Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. In Europe this is equal to perhaps a week's wages or 2% of a persons annual income, before taxes. In Europe and USA (and a few more places), where the average income is high enough for people to buy an expensive (and not essential for survival) digital camera is only 10 % of the earths populatione Annual income pr capita (head):. The value of 1000 l milk = a 850 USD digital camera in percent of annual inciome pr. captita: Your statistics are irrelevant and meaningless, since they take nothing about disposable income levels or cost of living into account. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
Something about milk shake reduction causes you to churn? Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 22/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. More with shake reduction. I scream every time you post something like this, you know. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
P. J. Alling wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 22/7/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. More with shake reduction. I scream every time you post something like this, you know. Something about milk shake reduction causes you to churn? Oh no, it's a scream of udder delight! -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts Subject: Re: ZX-5n Oh no, it's a scream of udder delight! You scream, I scream, ww -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
On 22/7/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I scream every time you post something like this, you know. Hey with your voice Roberts, I heard you. (I'm trying to get my one-liner's down to Robb-precision ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
Not everybody want one. They are still quite expensive. An average digital camera is perhaps worth 500-1000 liter of milk. More with shake reduction. I scream every time you post something like this, you know. Something about milk shake reduction causes you to churn? Oh no, it's a scream of udder delight! I'd scream if I cud. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
William Robb wrote: From: Mark Roberts Oh no, it's a scream of udder delight! You scream, I scream, Until we're put out to Pasteur. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
SV: ZX-5n
Officailly from whom? I just oredered some super 8 film for underwater photography. Kodak discontinued Kodakchrome 40 last summer, but 60 ASA Ektachrome super 8 and 16mm is alledgedly alive and well. What film is dead - Kodak, Fuji? 35mm? 16mm ? 8 mm? 120 film? 110? 127? What? Perhaps canvas, paint and brushes are dead as well, are they ? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Cotty Sendt: 19. juli 2006 00:47 Til: pentax list Emne: Re: ZX-5n On 18/7/06, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. It's official: film is dead. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 07/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 07/20/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 7/21/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Officailly from whom? I just oredered some super 8 film for underwater photography. Kodak discontinued Kodakchrome 40 last summer, but 60 ASA Ektachrome super 8 and 16mm is alledgedly alive and well. Dwayne's Photo still has Regular 8 and 16mm Kodachrome 40 available for sale. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. I could not resist a bit more... (sorry if it's been done before) .. 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint. I wish to complain about this roll of film what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique. Remarkable film, the Fuji Velvia, innit squire? Beautiful saturation The saturation don't enter into it ee's stone dead. There, it moved! No, it didn't, that was you winding the spool! I never!! Yes, you did! Look, I took the liberty of examining that Velvia when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting in its camera in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that film in, it would have over-exposed itself, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee! VOOM?!? Mate, this film wouldn't voom if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised! Well, I'd better replace it, then. Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of Fuji Velvia. I see. I see, I get the picture. I got a CF card (pause) Pray, does it render the plumage of a Norwegian parrot onto beautifully saturated transparencies at ISO 50? Nnn...not really. WELL IT'S HARDLY A B* REPLACEMENT THEN, IS IT?!!???!!? --- et cetera :-) - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: Re: ZX-5n jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 8230 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You forgot to say with apologies, to Monty Python, and it should be your deepest apologies... jim kerslake wrote: jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. I could not resist a bit more... (sorry if it's been done before) .. 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint. I wish to complain about this roll of film what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique. Remarkable film, the Fuji Velvia, innit squire? Beautiful saturation The saturation don't enter into it ee's stone dead. There, it moved! No, it didn't, that was you winding the spool! I never!! Yes, you did! Look, I took the liberty of examining that Velvia when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting in its camera in the first place was that it had been NAILED there. Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that film in, it would have over-exposed itself, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee! VOOM?!? Mate, this film wouldn't voom if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised! Well, I'd better replace it, then. Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of Fuji Velvia. I see. I see, I get the picture. I got a CF card (pause) Pray, does it render the plumage of a Norwegian parrot onto beautifully saturated transparencies at ISO 50? Nnn...not really. WELL IT'S HARDLY A B* REPLACEMENT THEN, IS IT?!!???!!? --- et cetera :-) - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 6:08 AM Subject: Re: ZX-5n jim kerslake wrote: It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) With $1k 10-megapixel bodies popping up like daisies, it's likely to be a long rest. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
It's official: film is dead. It's not dead - it's resting... Pining for the fjords :-) - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Re: ZX-5n It puts me in mind of this probably apocryphal graffiti... God is Dead! --Nietzsche Nietzsche is dead. -- God. Replace Nietzsche and God as appropriate. Mark Roberts wrote: Walter Hamler wrote: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Is film dead? I dunno, but my MZ-S on eBay has had 7 bids and met the $500.00 reserve price in only two days. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 8142 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: ZX-5n
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/07/18 Tue PM 10:47:01 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: ZX-5n On 18/7/06, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. It's official: film is dead. That depends on whether the price is good for the buyer or the seller.. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: Walter Hamler wrote: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Is film dead? I dunno, but my MZ-S on eBay has had 7 bids and met the $500.00 reserve price in only two days. I told you it would sell. :-) I struggled for well over a year to find one in my price range. The MZ-S is irresistible; although I miss the Z-1p wheels, it will be my last film camera. Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
ZX-5n
I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
On 18/7/06, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. It's official: film is dead. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
ZX-5n
Some of my friends disagree, but they own Nikons and Canons! Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
Walter Hamler wrote: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Is film dead? I dunno, but my MZ-S on eBay has had 7 bids and met the $500.00 reserve price in only two days. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
Woo Hoo! Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walter Hamler wrote: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Is film dead? I dunno, but my MZ-S on eBay has had 7 bids and met the $500.00 reserve price in only two days. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
Hi, Walt, How's the condition, and what kind of price were you thinking of? Joe On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:06 PM, Walter Hamler wrote: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
At 4:41 PM -0700 7/18/06, Jack Davis wrote: Woo Hoo! Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Walter Hamler wrote: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Is film dead? I see that Fuji is introducing several new films, including an improved Provia 400. -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
Ni, ni. ni. ni. ni!!! From: Cotty On 18/7/06, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. It's official: film is dead. ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
It puts me in mind of this probably apocryphal graffiti... God is Dead! --Nietzsche Nietzsche is dead. -- God. Replace Nietzsche and God as appropriate. Mark Roberts wrote: Walter Hamler wrote: I am considering selling my only film camera body as I am so happy with digital. If anyone is interested I will give you a good price. Is film dead? I dunno, but my MZ-S on eBay has had 7 bids and met the $500.00 reserve price in only two days. -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
In a message dated 7/18/2006 4:40:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is film dead? I dunno, but my MZ-S on eBay has had 7 bids and met the $500.00 reserve price in only two days. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia === Cool. See? You should have reserved it higher. Hehehe. Bet you are kicking yourself. :-) Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: ZX-5n
On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:05 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: It puts me in mind of this probably apocryphal graffiti... God is Dead! --Nietzsche Nietzsche is dead. -- God. Life is an illusion. -- Siddhartha G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
New Lens for ZX-5n ?
The Pentax 28-105 on my ZX-5n got banged by an errant child. Seems to work OK, except the results have gotten darker, less bright, then they used to be. Could this be a damaged lens? In any case I am up for an upgrade. What are suggested lenses for this camera? Either Pentax brand or other? thanks chuck
Re: New Lens for ZX-5n ?
chuck wrote: The Pentax 28-105 on my ZX-5n got banged by an errant child. Seems to work OK, except the results have gotten darker, less bright, then they used to be. Could this be a damaged lens? In any case I am up for an upgrade. What are suggested lenses for this camera? Either Pentax brand or other? The power-zoom FA28-105 seems to be generally accepted as the best in that range of focal lengths. See also http://www.stans-photography.info S
Re: New Lens for ZX-5n ?
chuck wrote: The Pentax 28-105 on my ZX-5n got banged by an errant child. Seems to work OK, except the results have gotten darker, less bright, then they used to be. Could this be a damaged lens? In any case I am up for an upgrade. What are suggested lenses for this camera? Either Pentax brand or other? There is the SMC Pentax-FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 IF AL, which is well-rated for its weight and price. It is definitely an upgrade from the vast array of inferior 28-80 FA lenses out there. If you want higher end than that, there's the SMC Pentax-FA 24-90, which is supposed to be excellent. Beyond that, there's the 28-70 f/2.8, but it's a heavy sucker. I guess you have to ask yourself and answer the question of in what way is the 28-105 not meeting your needs? If it's a matter of low light use, and image quality, get a prime like the SMC Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, or the 35, or 28, or splurge for a Limited lens. If it's not giving you the telephoto range you need, or it isn't wide enough, there are other alternatives to meet those more specific needs too.
Re: New Lens for ZX-5n ?
Find another 28-105. I love mine on the PZ-1 and istD Dave The Pentax 28-105 on my ZX-5n got banged by an errant child. Seems to work OK, except the results have gotten darker, less bright, then they used to be. Could this be a damaged lens? In any case I am up for an upgrade. What are suggested lenses for this camera? Either Pentax brand or other? thanks chuck
Re: New Lens for ZX-5n ?
If you want something a little wider, the FA24-90 seems to have a good reputation or just another FA28-105 used. They are a bargain tho' I don't know which one you have. I have the pz version (heavy but a good lens). I broke it once, and sent it to Pentax for repair and still have it. Check out Stan's site for comments on the various zooms. http://stans-photography.info/ Mark Stringer - Original Message - From: chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: New Lens for ZX-5n ? The Pentax 28-105 on my ZX-5n got banged by an errant child. Seems to work OK, except the results have gotten darker, less bright, then they used to be. Could this be a damaged lens? In any case I am up for an upgrade. What are suggested lenses for this camera? Either Pentax brand or other? thanks chuck
ZX-M focusing screen on ZX-5n
Hi, I had recently changed the screen of my newly acquired ZX-5n with a split image focusing screen (a ZX-M part ordered from Pentax Colorado). Thanks to Don for helping me with precise instructions. I developed my first roll after that and I tend to feel that I didn't get sharp focus on almost all of the shots. Most of the shots also seem to be a little over-exposed. I was using a Pentax A 70-210 f/4 lens with the camera. Of course, being a beginner, I tend to suspect my technique but does anybody of such problems when changing focusing screens? I have been using a Pentax PZ-1 with Beattie Intenscreen and a A 35-105 f/3.5 lens for the last 3 years. I haven't ever had auto-focus lenses so have gotten quite used to manual focusing. Thanks a lot! Gaurav
Re: manual focusing on ZX-5n
Hi, Gaurav Aggarwal a écrit : Is there a possibility of changing the focusing screen on the ZX-5n and using a split-image screen instead? The best solution seems to replace the 5n focusing screen by a MZ-M / ZX-M, as they are the same size. The operation is very easy. Unfortunately, this easy replacement is officially restricted to Pentax qualified service, and therefore replacement focusing screens are not available to end-users... You'll have to get them somehow (from some kind repair shop maybe?). Sorry for the late post, I'm not reading often these days. Patrice
RE: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? (The Photo)
Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Also pictured is the tool I use to release it. It's just a cheap dental pick with just a tiny hook formed on the end with a pair of wire cutters. Oriented as it is in the picture the clip needs to be pulled 'up' just slightly to release it. (Towards the mirror bumper foam.) I just use my fingernail to lock it back in place. HTH Don -Original Message- From: Gaurav Aggarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 8:50 PM To: Don Sanderson Subject: Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? Hi Don, I feel stupid asking but I would like more help. Pictures would be great. I just couldn't figure where to put the tiny hook into. I don't see anything that has any kind of hole to insert the needle/clip into. Do take some pics whenever you get time. Thanks a lot!! Gaurav On 2/9/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using a large needle, or a small paper clip. Put a tiny 'hook' on the end of the needle/clip. With the camera laying on its back pull the tab up just a little(towards the front of the camera) and then towards the bottom of the camera. Very little force or movement is required. Once you get it down and look at it it'll all make sense. If you still have trouble let me know and I'll take some pics of one for you. Don -Original Message- From: Gaurav Aggarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:07 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? Thanks Don for your note about how to change the screen. But I need more help/pointers. I can see some kind of a tab behind the foam and I tried to push, pull etc but nothing seemed to release it. I didn't use much force, obviously. On the PZ-1 it was a breeze. Is there some trick here? Using a tweezer, do I push, pull, bend, what do I do? Thanks! Gaurav On 2/8/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe their called interchangable because no alternative screens are available. (Except the S.) However _all_ of the ZX/MZ series are user removable, hence user interchangable. Nice feature for cleaning if nothing else. Don -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:58 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? - Original Message - From: Gaurav Aggarwal Subject: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? Hi Guys, I wanted to use two manual focus lenses more effectively on my Pentax ZX-5n and ordered the split image focusing screen of ZX-M. It arrived today. Now how do I change it? I have changed the screen on my PZ-1 (I used a Beattie Intenscreen). That was very easy. Any instructions/tips for ZX-5? I didn't think the screen in the MZ-5 (same as ZX-5) was interchangable. William Robb
RE: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n?
Again, with the link: ;-( http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/5nClip.jpg Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Also pictured is the tool I use to release it. It's just a cheap dental pick with just a tiny hook formed on the end with a pair of wire cutters. Oriented as it is in the picture the clip needs to be pulled 'up' just slightly to release it. (Towards the mirror bumper foam.) I just use my fingernail to lock it back in place. HTH Don -Original Message- From: Gaurav Aggarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 6:07 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? Thanks Don for your note about how to change the screen. But I need more help/pointers. I can see some kind of a tab behind the foam and I tried to push, pull etc but nothing seemed to release it. I didn't use much force, obviously. On the PZ-1 it was a breeze. Is there some trick here? Using a tweezer, do I push, pull, bend, what do I do? Thanks! Gaurav On 2/8/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe their called interchangable because no alternative screens are available. (Except the S.) However _all_ of the ZX/MZ series are user removable, hence user interchangable. Nice feature for cleaning if nothing else. Don -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 4:58 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? - Original Message - From: Gaurav Aggarwal Subject: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? Hi Guys, I wanted to use two manual focus lenses more effectively on my Pentax ZX-5n and ordered the split image focusing screen of ZX-M. It arrived today. Now how do I change it? I have changed the screen on my PZ-1 (I used a Beattie Intenscreen). That was very easy. Any instructions/tips for ZX-5? I didn't think the screen in the MZ-5 (same as ZX-5) was interchangable. William Robb
Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? (The Photo)
On 2/11/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Photo? Dave
Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? (The Photo)
Whoops! Never mind. Found it elsewhere. Dave On 2/12/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/11/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Photo? Dave
Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? (The Photo)
Where did you find it Dave? On 2/11/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoops! Never mind. Found it elsewhere. Dave On 2/12/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/11/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Photo? Dave
Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? (The Photo)
In the original how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? thread Here's Don's response with link: Again, with the link: ;-( http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/5nClip.jpg Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Also pictured is the tool I use to release it. It's just a cheap dental pick with just a tiny hook formed on the end with a pair of wire cutters. Oriented as it is in the picture the clip needs to be pulled 'up' just slightly to release it. (Towards the mirror bumper foam.) I just use my fingernail to lock it back in place. HTH Don On 2/12/06, Gaurav Aggarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where did you find it Dave? On 2/11/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoops! Never mind. Found it elsewhere. Dave On 2/12/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/11/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Photo? Dave
RE: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? (The Photo)
http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/5nClip.jpg (Bad Brain Day!) Don -Original Message- From: Gaurav Aggarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:26 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: how to change focusing screen on a ZX-5n? (The Photo) Where did you find it Dave? On 2/11/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoops! Never mind. Found it elsewhere. Dave On 2/12/06, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/11/06, Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a rather large photo of the screen retaining clip in the ZX-5n. Photo? Dave
