[peirce-l] Generator of lattices
Create lattices with n trichotomies ( 3= n = 10 ): http://www.univ-perp.fr/see/rch/lts/marty/lattices/lattice.htm (built with the collaboration of Patrick Benazet) Robert Marty http://robert.marty.perso.cegetel.net/ --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices
I pushed every button I could find and nothing happened. .??? Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: robert marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: BENAZET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Generator of lattices Create lattices with n trichotomies ( 3= n = 10 ): http://www.univ-perp.fr/see/rch/lts/marty/lattices/lattice.htm (built with the collaboration of Patrick Benazet) Robert Marty http://robert.marty.perso.cegetel.net/ --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices
Well...just make sure not pushing any button but just choosing some number first with the drop down menu. By pointing with your mouse on the arrow at the right of the number (specify the number of trichotomies). Then choose ok. Worked for me :-) Wilfred -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joseph Ransdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 15 juni 2006 20:06 Aan: Peirce Discussion Forum Onderwerp: [peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices I pushed every button I could find and nothing happened. .??? Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: robert marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: BENAZET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Generator of lattices Create lattices with n trichotomies ( 3= n = 10 ): http://www.univ-perp.fr/see/rch/lts/marty/lattices/lattice.htm (built with the collaboration of Patrick Benazet) Robert Marty http://robert.marty.perso.cegetel.net/ --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 9-6-2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 9-6-2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices
Joe, It may depend on your browser. Firefox and Internet Explorer opened it while Safari didn't. Dennis Leri On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Joseph Ransdell wrote: I pushed every button I could find and nothing happened. .??? Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: robert marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: BENAZET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Generator of lattices Create lattices with n trichotomies ( 3= n = 10 ): http://www.univ-perp.fr/see/rch/lts/marty/lattices/lattice.htm (built with the collaboration of Patrick Benazet) Robert Marty http://robert.marty.perso.cegetel.net/ --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices
You might also try cutting and pasting the link On 6/15/06 1:52 PM, Dennis Leri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, It may depend on your browser. Firefox and Internet Explorer opened it while Safari didn't. Dennis Leri On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Joseph Ransdell wrote: I pushed every button I could find and nothing happened. .??? Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: robert marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: BENAZET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Generator of lattices Create lattices with n trichotomies ( 3= n = 10 ): http://www.univ-perp.fr/see/rch/lts/marty/lattices/lattice.htm (built with the collaboration of Patrick Benazet) Robert Marty http://robert.marty.perso.cegetel.net/ --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Patrick F. Sullivan, Ph.D. Information Security Governance, Risk and Compliance Management 939 North Graham Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-352-1362 (voice fax), 317-752-5316 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, or conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return email, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Thank you. --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices
Thanks Pat and Dennis: The problem may be that I am still using Internet Explorer 6.0 for email. I use Netscape 7,2 for the web, but it still didn't work even though I did a cut and paste with that one. I suppose that the old version of IE may somehow be interfering with the Netscape browser. I don't know. Anyway, I guess I will have to start by trying an upgrade of IE. But that won't be today. Joe - Original Message - From: Patrick Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices You might also try cutting and pasting the link On 6/15/06 1:52 PM, Dennis Leri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, It may depend on your browser. Firefox and Internet Explorer opened it while Safari didn't. Dennis Leri On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Joseph Ransdell wrote: I pushed every button I could find and nothing happened. .??? Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: robert marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: BENAZET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Generator of lattices Create lattices with n trichotomies ( 3= n = 10 ): http://www.univ-perp.fr/see/rch/lts/marty/lattices/lattice.htm (built with the collaboration of Patrick Benazet) Robert Marty http://robert.marty.perso.cegetel.net/ --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Patrick F. Sullivan, Ph.D. Information Security Governance, Risk and Compliance Management 939 North Graham Avenue Indianapolis, IN 46219 317-352-1362 (voice fax), 317-752-5316 (mobile) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, or conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return email, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Thank you. --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices
No, still didn't work for me. Thanks, anyway. Joe - Original Message - From: Drs.W.T.M. Berendsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices Well...just make sure not pushing any button but just choosing some number first with the drop down menu. By pointing with your mouse on the arrow at the right of the number (specify the number of trichotomies). Then choose ok. Worked for me :-) Wilfred -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Joseph Ransdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: donderdag 15 juni 2006 20:06 Aan: Peirce Discussion Forum Onderwerp: [peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices I pushed every button I could find and nothing happened. .??? Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: robert marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: BENAZET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:53 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Generator of lattices Create lattices with n trichotomies ( 3= n = 10 ): http://www.univ-perp.fr/see/rch/lts/marty/lattices/lattice.htm (built with the collaboration of Patrick Benazet) Robert Marty http://robert.marty.perso.cegetel.net/ --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 9-6-2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 9-6-2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.4/364 - Release Date: 6/14/2006 --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Generator of lattices
Dennis Leri wrote: Joe, It may depend on your browser. Firefox and Internet Explorer opened it while Safari didn't. Netscape didn't open it either. Gary Dennis Leri On Thursday, June 15, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Joseph Ransdell wrote: I pushed every button I could find and nothing happened. .??? Joe Ransdell --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com
[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign
Wilfred, list, Wilfred wrote, So why would the word “red” be a symbol??? To me it is also not. I would regard the word “red” more as being a qualisign, which then would also fit the last sentence below. To me the word “red” can not be a sinsign since it is not an actual existing thing or event. And to me a quality (like red) can also not be a legisign. But I might be wrong. Of course. Well, perhaps I should have said the _term_ (rather than the _word_) red is a symbol (and a legisign). It seems hard to argue against the idea that words do occur singularly, in single utterances, writings, printings. The classic example is the difference between the word "the" in general and the number of its occurrences on a given page. There is a qualisign which is the English word "red," and which consists in the appearance and/or sound of the word as written/printed/uttered. The qualisign "red"'s semiotic object is the sinsign "red" which is the single actual appearance of the word "red" on the page or its single utterance. The sinsign "red" is a replica of the symbol "red" (and is an index). This bothers me because the semiotic object of both the legisign and sinsign "red"s is the red thing or redness (dependently on context), but the semiotic object of the qualisign "red" is the sinsign "red," because a qualisign is always an icon and can have for its object only that which it resembles. In the Peircean system, a qualisign cannot be a symbol because this would violate the involutionary rulewhich involvesthat3rds presuppose 2nds 1sts, but not vice versa, and 2nds presuppose 1sts but not vice versa. And actually, I don't understand how it is that the sinsign "red," -- when used mainly as a replica of the symbol (and not used indexically with an implicit "over there!") -- can be regarded as having redness or something red as its semiotic object. If its semiotic object is redness or something red, because it is a replica, then I don't see why a qualisign "red" should not have redness or something red as its semiotic object by virtue of being a kind of qualisignal version of a replica of the symbol. I'd rather say that the single utterance/appearance of "red" is simply a symbolic sinsign (or "sinsignal symbol")andthat the qualisign "red" is simply a symbolic qualisign. The only purpose thatI can see in the constraints which eliminate these options is to maintain a rule which restrains the multiplication of signs but does little else except to multiply problems, having us adding little detours and curlicues like the conception of the "replica" and like the qualisign's being an icon of an indexical sinsign which is a replica of a symbol. In everyday language and thought we think of such qualities as colors as quite capable of being symbolic in certain typical contexts, and certain appearances such as that of the English word "horse" are so tied habitually with specific symbolic significations that I think it's just strange to say that it's false that the qualisign "horse" has for its semiotic object not a horse but an individual utterance, writing, or printing of the word "horse." Now, suppose I define a kind of sign which I call an "evocant," and define it as any sign which is either a symbol or a replica of a symbol.The distinction between sinsign legisign is not abolished by this. Instead, the replica becomes simply the sinsignal evocant and the symbol is the legisinal evocant. Well, it wouldn't be enough. If I define the evocant simply as either symbol or replica, then I've defined it as either symbol or a kind of index whose significative power I've already found problematic. Instead I have to argue that a singular thing is capable of "evoking" and I have to define this as a power much like symbolizing. I'd have to argue that the habits which constitute symbols can be tied to qualisigns in such a way as to embody themselves in sinsigns such that the qualisign "horse"'s object, the sinsign "horse"'s object, and the legisign "horse"'s object, are all the horse, insofar as all three evoke the horse in the interpretant mind. Now is it really false that the qualisign, the appearance, "horse" evokes a horse in its interpretant's mind? I think that the appearance of the word does evoke a horse in my mind at least, because of the habitual connection of that appearance with an idea of a horse. Furthermore the interplay of singular utterances, qualitative appearances, and habits,do affect the symbol in its habitual character. Best, Ben Udell - Original Message - From: Drs.W.T.M. Berendsen To: Peirce Discussion ForumSent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign So why would the word “red” be a symbol??? To me it is also not. I would regard the word “red” more as being a qualisign, which then would also fit the last sentence below. To me the word “red” can not be a sinsign since it is not an actual
