[peirce-l] Re: Death of Arnold Shepperson

2006-10-02 Thread Eugene Halton


I am very sorry to hear of Arnold's death and send my
condolences. He will be missed.
Gene Halton
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[peirce-l] Re: What fundamental psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-27 Thread Eugene Halton
Kirsti Mtt��nen kirstima at saunalahti.fi writes:
 
 Dear Eugene,
 
 Thanks for an inspiring mail. The idea of a progressively broadening 
 social conception I find a very fruitful one, enriching the idea of a 
 logical ordering. This, together with your exhilarating 
 thought-experiment with an evolutionary-historical progression, 
 definitely made some thoughts I was not quite in the clear with, more 
 clear.
 
 But I cannot see that the social should be excluded from the method of 
 tenacity in the way you state:
 
  ��A tenaciously held belief is still social, as any habit is. Yet the 
  social is excluded from the method of tenacity. What you believe by 
  tenacity may also be social and learned, or perhaps social and 
  instinctive, but believed in because you simply continue to believe in 
  it, regardless of others' beliefs.
 
 Take for example the way things are nowadays in scientific communities, 
 which is no way really furthering finding out truth. It's arranged 
 according to the belief that maximal competition (between individuals) 
 ensures that the 'best ones' win. Well, 'the best ones' in that view 
 may win, but the truth certainly is not a winner. - Anyway, the method 
 of tenacity is bound in this context to become one individuals with 
 some success are pressed to resort to. Because if anything fundamental 
 to the work of that individual is convincingly questioned, and so 
 threatened, the whole career may be at stake. It does not make any 
 difference, whether the person in question has primarily the truth as a 
 personal motivating aim, or the just the aim of a fine career, winning 
 others presents itself either as the means, or as the aim.
 
 In Economy of Reseach (or thus titled in CP) Peirce sees the only way 
 of really furthering the finding out of the truth in the practice of 
 just funding generously a lot of people. With a rational HOPE, but 
 nothing more sure, that some of them, but some ones which cannot be 
 identified in advance, will produce something worth funding the whole 
 lot.
 
 Well, it's a long time since I read that piece. But I've had the 
 opportunity for a good many years to be a part of a (quite small) 
 research institute with absolutely no problems with funds. Within a 
 short time it became internationally acknowledged as the leading 
 institute in the field, as well as highly appreciated outside the 
 special field. Then various things happened, and with them the 'normal' 
 scarcity of funding started.  Within a VERY short time followed a deep 
 decay in level of research.
 
 I also had the opportunity to discuss with one of the persons in charge 
 of the so called 'golden coller' department in the Finnish company 
 Nokia, which some you may know, before the stupendous success the 
 company later achieved. The principles were the same, except somewhat  
 less rational. They acted on a principle based on spending money on 
 individuals, based on decisions made in upper departments in the 
 hierachy. So they were just sloshing around money, irrationally. At the 
 institute I was a member, all decisions were discussed. But there was 
 no pressure to make them look like reasonable to the outside.
 
 One of my favorite quotes from that particular piece used to be the 
 metaphor by Peirce: Burning diamonds instead of coal to produce heat.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Kirsti
 
 Kirsti Mtt��nen
 kirstima at saunalahti.fi
 

Dear Kirsti, 

If I understand your criticism that the social should not be excluded from the 
method of tenacity, you are saying that much research today goes on under 
Darwin-like survival of the fittest rules: research by tenacity in a 
competitive social milieu, individuals forced by the game to stick to their 
prior thought which gave them their success. It seems to me somewhat similar 
to the description of Isolato tenacity I gave. Are you saying that through the 
competitive social milieu, in pushing individuals into tenacity, the social is 
thereby ingredient in the method of tenacity? Or that methodically tenacious 
individuals, in aiming for competitive social success, thereby reveal the 
social within the method of tenacity? I'm not sure. It seems to me such 
individuals can be characterized as aiming for power through whatever means, 
and would fit the method of authority. I characterized it in my previus post 
as: 2 You believe what you are forced by social power to believe or can force 
on others to believe.

By force here I would include social legitimation, the power politics of 
cliques, peer reviews, etc., and not only police. 

Or maybe I should soften what I said in previous post to viewing the social as 
only indirectly involved in the method of tenacity? Tenacity seems to me to be 
about imposing one's way on experience.

I am also familiar with the funding approach you describe, through some 
encounters with the MacArthur Foundation way back. I spent one evening with 
Jonas Salk and Rod MacArthur (shortly before he 

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-09 Thread Eugene Halton


Kirsti M: “…The entelechy or perfection of being Peirce here
refers to is something never attained to full, but strived at, again and
again. Just as with science and scientific knowledge. It's about striving
to approach, better and better, The Truth. If there ever would be an end,
the absolute perfection of knowledge, that would mean an end, which would
be in contradiction with life and living. Life and living IS
striving - with some kind of an end. Never the last possible…”
 I have to disagree, Kirsti.
Life is more than “science and scientific knowledge,” and more than
“striving to approach, better and better, The Truth.” And I mean this in
a Peircean sense. Stated differently, science is part of life, not the
determinant of it. 
By my
lights life is participant in the entelechy of being, not a spectator
looking at a scoreboard it can never reach. The perfection of being
manifests all the time in realized aesthetic moments. Entelechy has
Firstness, here and now, does it not? 
Perhaps
something like this aesthetic perspective is what William Blake had in
mind when he wrote: “If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing
would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up,
till he sees all things thro' narrow chinks of his cavern.” 
 “…[T]he living intelligence
which is the creator of all intelligible reality…”, as Peirce put it in
the earlier quotation you comment on, means that ongoing creation
involves more than chaos or chance, it involves a “reasonableness
energizing in the world,” as Peirce put it elsewhere. If logic, as
self-controlled thought, is a species of ethics, as self-controlled
conduct, and ethics is itself a species of aesthetics, as the
intrinsically admirable, then “The Truth” ultimately gives itself to
Beauty, as the ultimate of entelechy, as I understand Peirce. 
 And if so, as I see it, the
perfection of being involves genesis, as well as development. Perfecting
habits of conduct and even the laws of the universe itself, means the
perfection of ongoing creation, not the “overcoming” of it in some
Hegelian straitjacket. From this perspective the final entelechy of all
being is itself such a moment, poem, painting, banquet, music, or better,
mousike, rhythm-rhyme-dance-musicking, at least in the sense in which
Peirce claimed that: 
“The
Universe as an argument is necessarily a great work of art, a great poem
-- for every fine argument is a poem and a symphony -- just as every true
poem is a sound argument. But let us compare it rather with a painting --
with an impressionist seashore piece -- then every Quality in a Premiss
is one of the elementary colored particles of the Painting; they are all
meant to go together to make up the intended Quality that belongs to the
whole as whole. That total effect is beyond our ken; but we can
appreciate in some measure the resultant Quality of parts of the whole --
which Qualities result from the combinations of elementary Qualities that
belong to the premisses.” CP 5.119
 
 Gene

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[peirce-l] Re: Heathening

2006-01-15 Thread Eugene Halton

Dear Joe,
	I realize you didn't want to go further in this discussion, but I just 
want to comment on something. Thanks for the definition of heathen, which, 
with its connection of religious beliefs to locale and landscape, actually 
could be taken as complimentary, just as the term civilization can be taken 
as derogatory.

You wrote:
	...Does praying for rain tend to result in rain?  People regularly pray 
for rain here in West Texas -- indeed, heathens in tribal dress are 
sometimes invited for the purpose in order to make sure that all bases are 
touched...
	This is causal reasoning, which misses the point of native American 
prayer. I once attended a Pueblo Corn Dance with Alfonso Ortiz, himself a 
Pueblo and an anthropologist of the Pueblo. He told me, White people think 
we pray to make it rain, but that's not it. The rain does its part, and we 
must do ours.
	This is prayer as participation, not praying to make it rain, not a 
beg-a-thon. Think of it perhaps as more like ancient Greek mousike, though 
even there the rhythming dance-music-verse world already had moved toward 
spectator consciousness and anthropocentrism. It is something like ritual 
musement, or Blake's Poetic Imagination.


Gene


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