[peirce-l] Re: MS 403 available at Arisbe

2006-07-26 Thread gnusystems
Joe, i think we all owe you a round of thanks for your transcription of
MS 403, especially those of us who are relative newcomers to the study
of Peirce. After several readings of the New List paper i still find
it a tough nut to crack, and this 1893 version makes it much more
accessible. In fact i would advise beginners in Peirce studies to try MS
403 (and 404) first and the 1867 paper later. Terminologically, the New
List paper seems to have a very hard crust, perhaps the result of its
conceptual content having been in the oven for three or four years
before reaching its published form -- guaranteeing that its language
would be transparent for its author, however opaque it may be for the
average reader. I think MS 403 shows Peirce making some progress toward
making his expression as elementary for the public as his categories
were already elementary in the logical sense.

Or maybe i'm reading my own progress as a reader into it ... i'd like to
hear a real beginner's testimony as to which version makes more
immediate sense. (I wonder if it would work better to put the sections
from 1867 after the 1893 versions of each section?)

The new footnotes also reveal some unexpected implications and
connections (unexpected by me, anyway).  -- As for MS 339D.663f, i'm
still struggling with that one.

gary

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[peirce-l] Re: MS 403 available at Arisbe

2006-07-21 Thread Arnold Shepperson
Joe, Wilfred

I had a quick squizz at MS 403, and agree that it could be quite an important document in getting an idea of the combined continuity and growth of Peirce's thought. Thanks for doing this: I am at this moment taking a break from preparing an article on the contributions to social inquiry that Peirce's philosophical, semeiotic,and logical possible inquiries make possible, and this document (even if I don't cite it directly) does seem to clarify ways of showing reader only partly familiar with Peirce that he is definitely worth the further effort in the reading.


BTW: the article in question is for a relatively new journal, _The Journal of Multicultural Discourses_, based at Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, China. An earlier version by Keyan Tomaselli and I was sent back with a referee's request that the article say less about what Africans purportedly think about GW Bush's America, and a lot more about Peirce. I have been giving this a full go for the last week, and expect to be busy for another week or two yet: anybody who wants more Peirce, can have as much as I can give, and whatever else they can get from all the resources!! Hence the rather peculiarly personal relevance of your posting MS 403 to Arisbe, because this is a source I can pass on as part of the article's review of the change in peirce Scholarship resources as a result of the Internet.


I had asked the journal's editor whether his university had had any contact with Charls Pearson's project, but haven't had a respone yet.
Cheers

Arnold Shepperson


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[peirce-l] Re: MS 403 available at Arisbe

2006-07-21 Thread Joseph Ransdell



Arnold, Wilfred, and list: 

I just noticed -- and corrected -- a 
transcription error that occurs in Section 3 of the 1893 version in the footnote 
embedded in that paragraph: I had typed "intention" where it should have 
been "attention". That could easily induce a conceptual error. I 
also corrected a couple of typos, one was a spelling of "priscindible" as 
"priscindable" and I forget the other, but it is something trivial, too. 
Also, that glitch on the last page, at the top, disappeared when I figured out 
that it was due to some confusion induced in the program that was caused by 
using the switch that keeps the two lines together at the page break. That was 
corrected, too, and the box enclosing the text now stays open where it was 
mistakenly closing at the page break before. The only important 
error, though, was the attention/intention mistake. And they are all 
corrected now. (If you find any other seeming mistakes please let me 
know so I can correct them, too.) 

Joe Ransdell


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  Arnold 
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  Subject: [peirce-l] Re: MS 403 available 
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  Joe, Wilfred
  
  I had a quick squizz at MS 403, and agree that it could be quite an 
  important document in getting an idea of the combined continuity and growth of 
  Peirce's thought. Thanks for doing this: I am at this moment 
  taking a break from preparing an article on the contributions to social 
  inquiry that Peirce's philosophical, semeiotic,and logical possible 
  inquiries make possible, and this document (even if I don't cite it directly) 
  does seem to clarify ways of showing reader only partly familiar with Peirce 
  that he is definitely worth the further effort in the reading. 
  
  BTW: the article in question is for a relatively new journal, _The 
  Journal of Multicultural Discourses_, based at Zhejiang University, Hangzhou, 
  China. An earlier version by Keyan Tomaselli and I was sent back with a 
  referee's request that the article say less about what Africans purportedly 
  think about GW Bush's America, and a lot more about Peirce. I have been 
  giving this a full go for the last week, and expect to be busy for another 
  week or two yet: anybody who wants more Peirce, can have as much as I 
  can give, and whatever else they can get from all the resources!! Hence 
  the rather peculiarly personal relevance of your posting MS 403 to Arisbe, 
  because this is a source I can pass on as part of the article's review of the 
  change in peirce Scholarship resources as a result of the Internet. 
  
  I had asked the journal's editor whether his university had had any 
  contact with Charls Pearson's project, but haven't had a respone 
  yet.
  Cheers
  
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[peirce-l] RE: MS 403 available at Arisbe

2006-07-20 Thread Drs.W.T.M. Berendsen
Thank you a lot! Reading this great text just now.


I got some general question again. Which has to do with some Aristotle
notion. I am just wondering whether CS Peirce also used this notion or wrote
some texts that are strongly connected with this notion. I am talking here
about the notion of phronesis.

I am still not getting very much of Peirce and have to read a lot still.
Also talking. Which is why I am very pleased to meet Thomas Riese in Germany
this Thursday. Think I might even understand bits of Charles Sander after
that :-).

Are there more people besides Thomas and Auke van Breemen living in
Netherlands, Germany, Belgium or England?? Fact is I will visit England also
to get some peregrine falcon (for my falconry passion) next year. If there
are people from England living not too far from there I might try to arrange
some discussions then also :-).


Kind regards,

Wilfred 

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I just now mounted a transcription of MS 403 (1893), The Categories, at 
Arisbe.

http://members.door.net/arisbe/menu/library/bycsp/ms403/ms403.pdf

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