[PEN-L:5953] RE: PEN: Intense compression

1995-07-21 Thread David A V Moody

Am I correct in believing that "intense compression" refers to squeezing
the bottom and top of a range closely together?  Raising the minimum to 
what is now the average would have the immediate effect of making the 
minimum a lot closer to the maximum, therefore the range would be com-
pressed...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:5956] Re: our contrac...

1995-07-21 Thread GC-ETCHISON, MICHAEL

MScoleman writes 7/20:

The issue of technology is not as simplistic as I think many people 
present it.  I think to make any blanket statements, like technology 
increases skills, deskills, costs jobs, creates jobs is wrong.  
Essentially, technology does all of the above depending on the 
circumstances.



You might be interested in a current thread on cyberia-l 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the productivity paradox.

Michael Etchison

[opinions mine, not the PUCT's]





[PEN-L:5957] Students Community Rally for Affirmative Action

1995-07-21 Thread Nathan Newman


This is going to be a reflection on yesterday's events, not so much a 
report--those will follow from a number of sources I hope.

Yesteday's events were not a loss, because a new movement took shape 
yesterday.  The results were not a surprise--the main surprise was that 
so many REPUBLICAN Regents sided with affirmative action.

Testimony in favor of affirmative action lasted for hours yesterday.  One 
thing was clear and made everyone watching the proceedings blood stir: 
our folks were not only right, they were brilliant and empassioned and 
the Left found a new voice of freedom in this struggle.  From Eva 
Patterson of the Lawyer's Committee for Civil Rights to Dolores Huerta of 
the Farm Workers to a whole range of UC students and 
administrators--there voices and arguments were inspired.  And then there 
was Jesse Jackson.  Even veterans of his speeches agreed that this speech 
was probably the greatest they had ever heard him give.  From an opening 
prayer to biblical parables to political analysis, he tied the arguments 
for affirmative action together with passion and analysis.  If Jackson is 
serious in rebuilding the Rainbow Coalition as a serious political 
organization, his words and leadership yesterday reignited the loyalty or 
a lot of folks, young and old.

Thousands of students and community supporters attended this meeting in 
the remote corner of San Francisco at the UC-SF Laurel Heights campus.  
That this was summer, a work day and people mostly arrived before 9am in 
the morning marks the energy behind this protest.  But they came, in 
waves upon waves.  Regents dismissed the defenders of affirmative action 
as "tribalists"; maybe so, but this tribe was a multi-racial tribe that 
marched and organized together for a common goal.  Maybe that's what the 
Regent fear--they don't want a unified tribe; they want an elite set of 
individuals sitting on top of a black-brown mass of imprisoned individuals.
Turning our society into a unified tribe across race lines and ending 
institutionalized racism is the last thing they could desire.

Only a small contingent of students and community supporters were allowed 
in the actual chamber where the Regents met.  Most rallied outside or 
watched the proceedings on large screens in rooms provided.  A bomb 
threat at one point forced the Regents outside on a balcony and a march 
of the protesters gave them a tast of what they were missing.  And when 
the first vote occured, the students and community members inside the 
chamber rose and protested so strongly, they forced the Regents out of 
their room and force them to reconvene elsewhere to finish their votes.  
This was followed by a march and sit-ins.

These were good actions but we need to escalate and not just on 
campuses--for the Regents don't care if education is disrupted.  If they 
did, they wouldn't be making the decisions they do.  They are almost all 
wealthy people with corporate offices that can be protested at and 
companies that can be boycotted.  

Immediate actions will follow but the biggest actions are planned 
starting on October 12 where campuses across the state have already 
agreed to lead actions in defense of affirmative action.

--Nathan Newman, Committees of Correspondence







[PEN-L:5959] AFFAM-L: List on Affirmative Action info organizing

1995-07-21 Thread Nathan Newman



PLEASE REPOST

To all,

With attacks on affirmative action mounting across the country, the 
primary vehicle being the Orwellian-named "Civil Rights" initiative in 
California, organizing has begun early to challenge the racism of this 
new attack.

A new e-mail list has been established to get information out about this 
movement and news around the struggle for affirmative action to activists 
across the country.  This is a moderated list where messages are checke 
for relevancy before being sent to all subscribers in order to keep 
message volume at a reasonable level.

To subscribe to information about the struggle to defend affirmative action, 
send a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the body of the message, type:

sub affam-l YourFirstName YourLastName

i.e. sub affam-l Jane Smith

You will be added to the mailing list.


==

Since the attacks on affirmative action are tied to the rising racism 
embodied in immigrant-bashing like Prop 187 and the criminalization of 
our communities through measures like Three Strikes, you may also want to 
join these other on-line resources.


=
   187pol-l


187pol-l is a discussion list to tie together the strategic issues around 
a broad-based struggle for racial and economic justice--how to bring the 
fight for immigrant rights together with the fight for affirmative 
action, alternatives to 3 strikes, and tying these issues into economic 
and political struggles like NAFTA and Chiapas. 

To Subcribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the body of the message, type:

sub 187pol-L YourFirstName YourLastName

i.e. sub 187pol-L Jane Smith

You will be added to the mailing list.



187-L


To subscribe to 187-l, the main information list around Prop 187 (a 
companion list to affam-l), do the following:

To subscribe to information about the struggle to defend affirmative action, 
send a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the body of the message, type:

sub sub-L YourFirstName YourLastName

i.e. sub 187-L Jane Smith


=
3STRIKES
=

To subscribe to 3STRIKES, an information list around Three Strikes and 
the fight against the criminalization of our communities (a companion 
list to affam-l), do the following:

To subscribe to information about the struggle to defend affirmative action, 
send a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the body of the message, type:

sub 3STRIKES YourFirstName YourLastName

i.e. sub 3STRIKES Jane Smith



These lists are sponsored as a public service to promote education around 
these issues by UC-Berkeley's Center for Community Economic Research.  
You can find other information of interest to the community at the 
Center's  EDIN web site at:  http://garnet.berkeley.edu:/  or its 
gopher site at garnet.berkeley.edu 1251.

In Solidarity,


*Nathan Newman:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ***
   Center for Community Economic Research



[PEN-L:5962] ACT NOW! - Ban on Funded Student Groups (fwd)

1995-07-21 Thread Nathan Newman



ATTENTION/ALERT/REACTION/ACTION/

NOW

Here we go again. House conservatives fueled by Reps. McIntosh (R-Ind.);
Ehrlich (R-MD) and Istook (R-Okla.) want to restrict the most vulnerable
voice in America, ours. These three Representatives are proposing
legislation to restrict lobbying/advocacy by any entity that receives
federal grant money.

Their legislation would cap the amount of money those who receive EVEN a
SINGLE federal grant dollar could spend on a variety of activities deemed
"political advocacy." The above mentioned sponsors of the bill admit their
primary interest is to curb lobbying by tax-exempt non-profit advocacy
organizations that feed at the public trough!

For those of you who don't know the entities that would be impacted they
are as follows:
the ILC's; the NCIL; the ARC's; the UCP's; the Easter Seals; churches;
universities and more. Basically the proposed legislation that they intend
to insert as a rider to the full Labor/HHS/Education Appropriation
Committee bill would render all of us ineffective, defenseless and
certainly unrepresented on Capital Hill. It would seriously endanger our
right to participate in the democratic process.

This is just one more attempt by the 104th Congress to muzzle and undermine
our advocacy while they slash and burn disability related programs in the
budget process. Not to mention what type of backdoor, midnight attempts
they might pull to weaken the ADA, etc...

We realize that there are way too many alerts being sent, but we have no
other options. There are just too many attempts to destroy us and you need
to know about each and everytime this occurs. Calls need to be made on a
continual basis up until this Thursday when the full Labor/HHS/Educ.
Appropriations committee meets. Calls should be made to all who sit on the
full Committee, especially Chairman Livingstone (R-LA) and Speaker Gingrich
(who has given his support).

Item number 1863, dated 95/07/20 21:44:23 -- ALL
Date:   Thu, 20 Jul 1995 21:44:23 GMT
Reply-To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sender: Activists Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: ?
Subject:Student Civil Liberties Attacked

Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Fri, 14 Jul 1995 18:35:41 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NAGPS)
Subject: Congress Wages War on Students and Democratic Rights!

Original message
STUDENT AID ALERT
July 14, 1995

Is Congress Waging War on Students?


Last Tuesday, as part of a FY96 appropriations bill, the House Labor,
Health and Human Services and Education Subcommittee debated an amendment
whose purpose was to silence all the students who have been voicing
opposition to proposed cuts to student aid.

Sponsored by Rep. Istook (R-OK) on behalf of Rep. Solomon (R-NY), the
amendment would deny all federal funds to any university or college at
which "any amount derived from tuition, student activity fees, or other
charges to students is used for the support of any organization or group
that is engaged in lobbying or seeking to influence public policy or
political campaigns..."

The practical effect of this amendment would be to eliminate most higher
education employees and students from participating in the democratic
process. Those potentially affected include:

* Associations representing administrators, faculty and college presidents
* Student Governments
* State Student Associations
* National student groups such as NAGPS, USSA, USPIRG * Clubs on campus
such as right-to-life groups, pro-choice groups,
Amnesty International, and any other groups which engage in issues in the
public arena
* Any part of the university which does research if that research is
used to "influence public policy."

The amendment failed in subcommittee on an amazingly close vote of 6 to 8
(3 Republicans joined 5 Democrats voting against the amendment).
Representative Istook promises to bring the amendment up in full committee.


Students, faculty, administrators and interested others who are able to
contact their member of Congress should do so before the full committee
vote on Thursday, July 20. The Congressional switchboard number is (202)
225-3121.

Actual Text of Amendment:

"Amendment to Labor, HHS, and Education Appropriations Bill, 1996, Offered
by Istook for Solomon.

"At the appropriate place in the bill, insert the following new section:

"None of the funds appropriated in this Act may be made available to any
institution of higher education when it is made known to the Federal
official having authority to obligate or expend such funds that any amount
derived from tuition, student activity fees, or other charges to students
is used for the support of any organization or group that is engaged in
lobbying or seeking to influence public policy or political campaigns,
other than a student organization whose political activities relate
exclusively to the organization and operation 

[PEN-L:5964] re: Hitler Capitalism

1995-07-21 Thread M Schettino


This statement is not as straightforward as it seems...

On Thu, 20 Jul 1995, Bill Briggs wrote:

 
 It would be improper to call Hitler's Germany a capitalistic country.
 Capitalism requires laws [and , if history is any  judge], democracy 
 in order to prosper.
 
Does capitalism really need law? I agree that property rights are 
fundamental for capitalism, and you can have a specific property 
rights structure that is not similar to what we call Law, in general. 
For instance, nazis could have their property rights assured, while 
most other people wouldn't. This provides enough base to capitalism, 
although different to the one we know in US nowadays...

Or maybe I am assuming we talk about the same concept when we say 
capitalism. Anyway, this discussion started with some adjectives for 
Lenin, Mao, Stalin and, by style association led to Hitler. Should we 
talk about capitalism?

Macario
 



[PEN-L:5963] Re: Students Community Rally for Affirmative Action

1995-07-21 Thread John B Exdell

How do we get the transcripts of the speeches given?  I would like to 
include some of the statements in a newsletter I edit for a local 
progressive political organization, and would use more as course 
material this coming semester.  I'm sure others would also like to know 
how to find them.  Can you help?

On Fri, 21 Jul 1995, Nathan Newman wrote:

 
 This is going to be a reflection on yesterday's events, not so much a 
 report--those will follow from a number of sources I hope.
 
 Yesteday's events were not a loss, because a new movement took shape 
 yesterday.  The results were not a surprise--the main surprise was that 
 so many REPUBLICAN Regents sided with affirmative action.
 
 Testimony in favor of affirmative action lasted for hours yesterday.  One 
 thing was clear and made everyone watching the proceedings blood stir: 
 our folks were not only right, they were brilliant and empassioned and 
 the Left found a new voice of freedom in this struggle.  From Eva 
 Patterson of the Lawyer's Committee for Civil Rights to Dolores Huerta of 
 the Farm Workers to a whole range of UC students and 
 administrators--there voices and arguments were inspired.  And then there 
 was Jesse Jackson.  Even veterans of his speeches agreed that this speech 
 was probably the greatest they had ever heard him give.  From an opening 
 prayer to biblical parables to political analysis, he tied the arguments 
 for affirmative action together with passion and analysis.  If Jackson is 
 serious in rebuilding the Rainbow Coalition as a serious political 
 organization, his words and leadership yesterday reignited the loyalty or 
 a lot of folks, young and old.
 
 Thousands of students and community supporters attended this meeting in 
 the remote corner of San Francisco at the UC-SF Laurel Heights campus.  
 That this was summer, a work day and people mostly arrived before 9am in 
 the morning marks the energy behind this protest.  But they came, in 
 waves upon waves.  Regents dismissed the defenders of affirmative action 
 as "tribalists"; maybe so, but this tribe was a multi-racial tribe that 
 marched and organized together for a common goal.  Maybe that's what the 
 Regent fear--they don't want a unified tribe; they want an elite set of 
 individuals sitting on top of a black-brown mass of imprisoned individuals.
 Turning our society into a unified tribe across race lines and ending 
 institutionalized racism is the last thing they could desire.
 
 Only a small contingent of students and community supporters were allowed 
 in the actual chamber where the Regents met.  Most rallied outside or 
 watched the proceedings on large screens in rooms provided.  A bomb 
 threat at one point forced the Regents outside on a balcony and a march 
 of the protesters gave them a tast of what they were missing.  And when 
 the first vote occured, the students and community members inside the 
 chamber rose and protested so strongly, they forced the Regents out of 
 their room and force them to reconvene elsewhere to finish their votes.  
 This was followed by a march and sit-ins.
 
 These were good actions but we need to escalate and not just on 
 campuses--for the Regents don't care if education is disrupted.  If they 
 did, they wouldn't be making the decisions they do.  They are almost all 
 wealthy people with corporate offices that can be protested at and 
 companies that can be boycotted.  
 
 Immediate actions will follow but the biggest actions are planned 
 starting on October 12 where campuses across the state have already 
 agreed to lead actions in defense of affirmative action.
 
 --Nathan Newman, Committees of Correspondence
 
 
 
 
 
 



[PEN-L:5965] Re: AFFAM-L: List on Affirmative Action info

1995-07-21 Thread Boycotting California

Penners:

The University of California has decided to end affirmative action. Many
African American political and social spokespersons, among others in
California, have asked that national organizations boycott the state.
California is a pivotal state in the affirmative action battle. I've
begun holding discussions with a friend about the possibilities of the
National Economic Association boycotting the January ASSA meeting, pos-
sibly meeting somewhere else on the East Coast. (This a very informal
discussion thus far and it is not a position offically raised within
the NEA. And, that organization bears no responsibility for my remarks).
Is there any support on this list for boycotting the January, 1996
ASSA meetings in California and trying to re-organize someplace else?
Is is logistically possible? Should economists, especially "progressive
economists," fight against the anti-affirmative action iniative in Cali-
fornia and elsewhere?

peace, patrick l mason



[PEN-L:5966] WP about institutions

1995-07-21 Thread M Schettino


To the Honorable Body of Coleagues:

I have finally posted a working paper in the WUSTL archive. With the 
title of "Intuition and Institutions, the Bounded Society" I have 
tried to establlish the link between bounded rationality and the 
creation of social institutions that determine economic performance.

I would be pleased if someone could take a look over it and, maybe, 
suggest where to publish it. My ignorance have made it difficult to 
find where is it fit, so I appreciate any help. Maybe private posts 
would be better, since there is always the possibility of finding no 
place for it.

The paper is in econwpa.wustl.edu, in the economic history archive, by 
the number 9507001. There seems to be some problems in reading it, I 
have been able to recover the file 9507001.pdf and read it with 
Acrobat Read, which is available for free on WWW.

Hope to hear from some of you...

Macario




[PEN-L:5967] Re: ACT NOW! - Ban on Funded Student Groups (fwd)

1995-07-21 Thread GC-ETCHISON, MICHAEL

Nathan Newman, very upset, writes 7/21 that Congress is looking "to 
restrict lobbying/advocacy by any entity that receives federal grant 
money."  Well, not prohibit it altogether, but put a "cap [on] the amount 
of money those who receive EVEN a SINGLE federal grant dollar could spend 
on a variety of activities deemed 'political advocacy.'"  This, he says, 
"would render all of us ineffective, defenseless and certainly 
unrepresented on Capital Hill. It would seriously endanger our right to 
participate in the democratic process."

Why is it that he, or any of his "endangered" groups, has a claim to use 
tax money to lobby -- for, one supposes, more tax money, among other 
things?  If these groups can't find non-members, non-recipients of 
federal funds, to speak up for them, why should taxpayers (some of whom, 
presumably, would prefer that these groups not be funded) have to pay for 
these lobbyists?  Why, for that matter, should an entity which seeks tax 
monies have a "right to participate in the democratic process" _paid for 
by taxpayers_?

Some, I suppose, would argue that any entity ought to be able to use all 
of its funds for lobbying, even if all those funds came from the 
government.  I'd guess there wouldn't be a lot of popular support for 
that extreme position.  So let's suppose that there is a good answer to 
my rhetorical questions, along the lines of "But we get 15 cents a year, 
on a budget of $1 million."  Can a reasonably usable line be drawn?  

Michael Etchison

[opinions mine, not the PUCT's]









[PEN-L:5968] Ernest Mandel has passed away (fwd)

1995-07-21 Thread Tavis Barr


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 1995 08:05:26 -0700
From: Joanna Misnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ernest Mandel has passed away

Ernest Mandel, a leader of the Fourth International and internationally
known Marxist economist died yesterday in Belgium of a heart
attack. He was 72 years old. Mandel had been in failing health
for several years.

Cremation is today at a small family service. In September,
broader commemorative events are planned when his ashes
will be moved to either Paris or Antwerp.

Active throughout his illness, Mandel was working along with
Swiss comrade Charles Andre Udry on a book analyzing the
role of finance capital in today
s global economy. He was able to attend the 14th World
Congress of the FI which was held this June and intervened
in his usual spirited and incisive fashion.

Messages of condolence to his comrades, and his companion
Ann can be faxed to the Belgian section of the FI.
The number is 011 32 2 522 6127.

He will be sorely missed, particularly by an entire
generation of revolutionaries who came to Marxism
and to the Fourth International in the heydey of
the 1960s. He was our teacher.

Joanna



[PEN-L:5969] Re: Our Contract W/ America?

1995-07-21 Thread Paul Cockshott

Massimo said

I am sure that none of these demands are compatible with the
competitive position of the United States, or Uk, or any other
country. But I am also sure that the realization of


Paul

We should not conceed that there is such a thing as the
'competitive position' of a country. Countries do not compete
in international trade. To the extent that they engage in it
it is mutually beneficial. Changes in the distribution of
income within a country do not alter this fact, they only
alter which classes benefit. What the progressive measures
you suggest would do, is reduce the relative profitability of
the US or UK as fields for capital investment which is a 
quite different thing. The obvious conclusion is that a
progressive domestic agenda can only be sustained in the 
presence of strict exchange controls and taxes on capital
movement.



[PEN-L:5970] Re: More Extended Reproduction

1995-07-21 Thread Paul Cockshott

This is more of my extended exchange with John on the 
role of empirical measures in Marxian economics. The questions
are quite technical, but I regard the questions as important
since I think they reflect a bias by many Marxian economists
against empirical work. It is a bias that I have encountered
myself from referees of papers when trying to get empirical
work published. 

My feeling for some 20 years has been that this bias is
unjustified and that whenever one carries out an empirical
investigation the result is both enlightening and usually
favourable to Marxism vis a vis its critics.

John Ernst wrote

As Freeman and Kliman have argued on
these lists, it is fairly simple to show that by using historic and not
simultaneous valuation one obtains a falling rate of profit in cases 
where
simultaneous valuation would yield a rising or steady rate of profit.  
Paul

I am in full agreement thattehnlogical change leading to a decline 
in the labour content of currently produced capital goods will lead
to a loss on capital accounts due to capital depreciation. This will
have the effect of reducing the effective rate of profit.

What I was questioning was whether using values or PoP makes any 
difference 
to ones result for the rate of profit. This is something I very much 
doubt.
If you think that it does make a difference, you should be able to make
measurements to show that it does - given that most capitalist countries
publish reasonably detailed economic statistics. This is a different
question from the one you raise above.

John goes on to ask:
 
Consider all of the questions and problems
we seem to abstracting from in order to obtain your results.  Here are a
few. 
 
 
1.  To obtain values you simply sum concrete labor times.  Is this valid? 
 

Paul:   No, the very process of treating all of the labours merely in
terms of their time dimension abstracts from their concrete
character, thus what is being added is abstract labour.
 
2.  How do you deal with absolute rent in determining prices of 
production?

Paul:   I prepare two sets of statistics, one including industries with
a high rent content such as oil and agriculture the other 
excluding
these. When one excludes such industries the fit between values 
and
money prices is, as one would expect, better. I think however,
that the rent is question is better understood as differential.
 
3.  How do you deal with monopoly prices in determining prices of
production? 
 
Paul:   I make no special allowances for this, neither does most of the
literature on prices of production from Marx on.

4.  Do modern monetary policies affect the manner in which capitalists
incorporate  "moral depreciation" into the the concept of social value? 

Paul:   Most certainly. During periods of rapid inflation one has the
reverse 'moral appreciation' which appears in the national 
capital
accounts as stock appreciation. When computing timeseries for the
rate of profit I always compute it net of stock appreciation.
 
5.  Given that within an industry there are a variety of techniques in 
use,
how do aggregate  statistics capture this in the determination of 
value 
or price? 
 
Paul:   The existence of such a range of techniques is implicit in the 
concept
of value as average socially necessary labour time. Thus the
averaging that takes place through the use of industrial 
aggregate statistics is in conformity with value theory.

6.  If, with Marx, we assume that one hour of abstract labor in one 
country
creates a different amount of value than in another, how are we to 
use 
your technique in putting the whole picture together?

Paul:   One must distinguish three levels of problem here. In dealing 
with
value in terms of a single country, I hink that the best 
technique
is the one I outlined in an earlier post. In attempting an 
international analysis there are two further problems. One is
the scale of the statistical work one would have to undertake -
it is a task for an institute not an individual, but more 
seriously
I think that the current theoretical status of international
value theory is too under-developed to allow the posing of
useful empirical questions. 
 
7.  If inputs and outputs are valued and/or priced annually,  
who takes the loss as you move  from year to year with increasing 
productivity?   Does that affect anything? 

Paul:   As I said above stock depreciation will tend to depress profit
rates, but studies of this are better done using National Income
Accounts data rather than I/O table data since these are 
published
annually and provide a better basis for the construction of
profit rate and organic composition time series. As far as I am
aware nobody has yet constructed organic 

[PEN-L:5972] Re: dsanet: AFFAM-L: List on Affirmative Action info organizing

1995-07-21 Thread Bill Briggs

What ever happened to the liberal dream of higher education for all who 
wanted it?

If we still fought for that dream,
this arguing over who gets what crumbs from a shrinking pie
would not be happening.

Given today's technologies, 
that comprize the information highway
free education for all who want it, is a realizable dream.


Nat. Ass. of Letter CarriersBill Briggs  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
unionists subscribe  publabor at [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:5971] Re: Narrowing the Vision

1995-07-21 Thread Fikret Ceyhun



On Wed, 19 Jul 1995, Michael Perelman wrote:

 We now have a remarkable array of people from around the world,
 yet we still hear a preponderance of posts from and about the
 U.S.
 
 Also, we still have a small group of people who contribute most
 of the postings.  The list would be more valuable if we could
 hear from more of you.
 -- 
 

Michael Perelman's important post above is generally ignored by 
the PENers. Only two people commented.

Before I make a brief comment on the posting, I was searching an 
appropriate quotation. I couldn't find one, but the following would 
serve as second best:

"Since it is not for us to create a plan for the future that will hold for
all time, all the more surely what we contemporaries have to do is the
uncompromising critical evaluation of all that exists, uncompromising in
the sense that our criticism fears neither its own results nor the
conflict with the powers that be."
--Karl Marx
 
I think the PENers generally are doing what Marx says "uncompromising 
critical evaluation of all that exists, uncompromising in the sense that our 
criticism fears neither its own results nor the conflict with the powers 
that be." But more can be done.

I must agree with Michael Perelman that topics covered are narrow 
and mostly related to the U.S.and participants are "small group of 
people." If we can broaden topics to include burning questions 
pertinent to other lands and peoples then participation from other lands 
would surely increase. Also, personally I would like to see communications 
focussed on:
1. Less commentary and opinions;
2. More analysis of events and issues;
3. More news and information.

Opinions are less useful to guide us to construct a model to 
understand what is happening aound us. What we need is more "analysis." 
For instance, a lot of us are puzzled why real wages are falling in most 
industrial societies and how can we counter this trend. Is it expected in 
capitalism? Are the alling wages result of increaing income inequality? 
Or the causality the other way around?  What role(s) transnational 
corporations play in wage declines? Etc.

I am sure we all read periodicals and books. In those materials 
there must be interesting items and news to share. How other (non-English 
language) publications cover certain important events? Sharing those 
would be very valuable.

I hope this would be received as friendly self-criticism of ourselves.


Fikret Ceyhun
Dept. of Economics  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Univ. of North Dakota   voice:  (701)777-3348   office
University Station, Box 8369(701)772-5135   home
Grand Forks, ND 58202   fax:(701)777-5099




[PEN-L:5973] Homage to Ernest Mandel

1995-07-21 Thread POLLIN

  Robert Pollin
 Department of Economics
   University of California-Riverside
Riverside, CA 92521-0427
  909-787-5037, ext. 1579 (office); 909-787-5685 (fax)
   909-788-8106 (home); [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-mail)


  July 21, 1995


Dear Friends,

I was saddened to read over pen-l the news of the passing of
Ernest Mandel.  Mandel was a inspiration to me, especially in my
days as an undergraduate and graduate student.  How well I remember
myself and fellow grad students at the New School students pouring
over Late Capitalism and The Second Slump.  We knew that Mandel was
not necessarily the most rigorous economist.  But as our teacher
Robert Heilbroner has said, with great rigor among modern
economists has also come mortis.  Mandel, by contrast, asked great
questions, and asked them with passion and conviction.  He forced
us to think, and challenged us to do better.  I have never spoken
to him, or corresponded with him.  I did however have the privilege
of twice hearing him lecture, once at the New School, and more
recently at a conference at U Mass-Amherst.  Both of these
experiences, and especially the one at the New School, are
indelibly etched in my memory, part of that storage bank of
experiences that keeps me trying to do this hard work of radical
political economy.

My condolences to everyone who knew Mandel as a friend.  For
the rest of us, I hope his passing encourages us to keep on keeping
on.

-- Bob Pollin


   Sincerely,


  Robert Pollin
 Professor of Economics