[PEN-L:187] Strong left criticism of foreign aid

1995-08-24 Thread Trond Andresen

Louis N Proyect said something about Nicaragua in a recent post, which
prompt me to the following:

Two friends of mine came back from Nicaragua a month ago, after working
there for a year. She was there on a NORAD(Norwegian Foreign Aid
Dept.)-financed project as a theatrical instructor. He was there in no
official function. They have been there earlier in 1988, and in 1990
after the elction that the Sandinastis lost. 

Before proceeding I have to say something about her, whom I have known
for 24 years. She is 45 years, daughter of a communist family, has been
a revolutionary all her her life, and still considers herself such.

They were quite depressed after this year, and she broke off before the
scheduled end of the project she was involved in. They were not
primarily depressed by the unemployment and general social
deterioration and rampant capitalist anarchy. This they were prepared
for, and knew about from earlier trips. No, the real depressive factor
was the observation of the foreign-aid-based parasitical domestic class
that has emerged especially after 1990, consisting to a significant
degree of former functionaries from the Sandinista administration and
movement. My friends say that immediately after the lost election of
1990, 500 different groups were established, with the primary objective
to gain money from what my friends call the "Foreign aid market". My
friends say (I have no other data on this) that 50% of Nicaragua's
foreign income today is aid, and that the Dept. of culture is run
wholly on aid money.

In the theatre group that she was to work with, the living standards of
the Nicaraguan members were 10 times those of ordinary people outside
the aid system. They had cars and chauffeurs, their homes were way
above the average, and with housemaids at that.

They had a lot of other examples. one was the disillusioned swedish
agricultural machinery technician , who in two years got to do nothing
else than learn som nicaraguans to drive. the original intention of
teaching repair and maintenance was not realized. Not due to the Swede,
but to his nicaraguan project leaders who spent their time plotting new
projects for the "aid market", when they didn't lead the high life.
Very little comes out of a lot of these projects. And the embassies and
aid workers from donor countries keep silent on this, because they have
their reasions to do so: The embassies of course want to report
succesful achievements back home.  The aid functionaries live very well
with housemaids, all facilities and modern japanese cars, in an exotic
country - a welcome diversion from the daily routine in f.inst.
Norway.  Those who are less cynical use considerable mental energy to
convince themselves that they are really helping the domestic
population, and even if they don't manage that completely, it is a long
step to voice open criticism. They won't risk losing the possibility
for appointments in future aid projects.

My friends told about how the new Nicaraguan foreign-aid-upper-class
mingle socially with the old owner class in the poshest Night clubs of
Managua, where drinks and beers costing a month's wages for the working
nicaraguan are consumed, while one listen to sentimental revolutionary
songs from the 80ies, and _everybody_ applauds afterwards.

They say that the best-educated and talented young people make a career
in the foreign-aid-upper-class, instead of doing what they ought to do,
try to struggle politically alongside the poor, build their country and
contribute to a better living for ordinary people. These people instead
rack their brains and use their energy to "design" "projects" that they
think will go home with the bureaucrats and politicians in scandinavia
and other well-off countries of the world. They know that
"woman-oriented", "indigenous culture" etc.  are key buzzwords in
project applications, and are very adept at this.  When one "project"
is unfolding, they spend time applying for new ones.  This is a
lifetime occupation, and by N. standards, an extremely lucrative one.

My friends spoke with ordinary peasants and working people, and they
were several times told that it would be better for the poor and many,
if all aid was halted, even if the number of low-paid jobs as
housemaids, guards, chauffeurs would fall as a result. They said that
they wanted to get rid of the foreign-aid-parasite class, and that it
would not make it any worse for themselves.

The only community in Nicaragua where dignity, pride and self-suffiency
still seem to be the rule, said my friends, is in Miskito native
communities on the Atlantic coast. Concerning the rest, the country is
permeated by a
can-we-have-some-aid-too-we-have-an-excellent-project-proposal
mentality.

So my friends concluded: Stop all foreign aid to Nicaragua, because it
cripples the country by mentally destroying maybe the most talented
part of the country's population, and it makes for a beggar's mentality
in nearly all strata of society.

They add 

[PEN-L:188] Re: Graduate Econ Programs

1995-08-24 Thread Robin Hahnel

You should definitely consider The American University. Our PhD program
is very strong in both traditional and political economy theory and our
econometrics sequence is quite rigorous. I will let other penlers from
other programs toot their own horns, but I think our PhD political economy
curriculum is now the best in the country.

You should contact our PhD advisor and radical post-Keynesian macro
theorists, Robert Blecker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by snail mail
at the Department of Economics, The American University, Washington DC
20016.

Hasta la Victoria Siempre



[PEN-L:189] Request for Info

1995-08-24 Thread Kevin Quinn

A friend not on the list is looking for data on public ownership of 
industry for a comparative systems course she is teaching. Please respond 
privately to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thanks
Kevin Quinn



[PEN-L:190] Re: Strong left criticism of foreign aid

1995-08-24 Thread Louis N Proyect

Louis: This sounds consistent with what I've been hearing out of 
Nicaragua in recent years. The selfish behavior of Sandinista cadre is 
depressing, but really part of the same pattern that exists everywhere on 
the planet earth today. The only thing I would question is the moral 
perspective your "Communist" friend views Nicaraguan events from. After 
all, it was Edward Shverednaze and Elliot Abrams who sat down together in 
Costa Rica to work out the terms of the sacrifice of Nicaragua to facilitate 
Soviet-US "improved relations".

On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Trond Andresen wrote:

 They were quite depressed after this year, and she broke off before the
 scheduled end of the project she was involved in. They were not
 primarily depressed by the unemployment and general social
 deterioration and rampant capitalist anarchy. This they were prepared
 for, and knew about from earlier trips. No, the real depressive factor
 was the observation of the foreign-aid-based parasitical domestic class
 that has emerged especially after 1990, consisting to a significant
 degree of former functionaries from the Sandinista administration and
 movement. My friends say that immediately after the lost election of
 1990, 500 different groups were established, with the primary objective
 to gain money from what my friends call the "Foreign aid market". My
 friends say (I have no other data on this) that 50% of Nicaragua's
 foreign income today is aid, and that the Dept. of culture is run
 wholly on aid money.



[PEN-L:191] Q: Who are the independent voters?

1995-08-24 Thread HEATHER GROB

Dear pen-llers,

Today's Washington Post finds (not suprisingly) that support grows for the
independent vote in '96.  The Times MIrror found that 26 percent of the
electorate would vote for an unnamed independent presidential candidate in 1996,
while 32 percent would vote for Clinton and 35 percent would vote for an unnamed
Republican.  Of those disposed toward an independent candidate, a plurality of
45 percent say they are more supportive of an "activist government" than is
Clinton. 

My questions are:  Does anyone know where labor's vote is?  What are the voter
characteristics of  the Dem, Rep, and Ind catagories?  

Heather 



[PEN-L:192] Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

1995-08-24 Thread Doug Henwood

I just got the press pack from the Independent Women's Forum, the
Washginton-based right-wing women's group headed by Barbara Ledeen, wife of
the notorious covert operator Michael Ledeen. The IWF is funded in part by
the Bradley Foundation, one of the major funders of the big-time right.
Elizabeth Fox-Genovese has joined the advisory board for their journal, and
she also appears in their guide of experts along with Sheila Burke, Bob
Dole's chief of staff; Wendy Lee Gramm, free marketeer and spouse of Phil;
and hip Gen X rightists Laura Ingraham and Lisa Schiffren; a number of
Republican staffers at Congressional committees; and a biger number of
think tanks at the usual places, from Heritage to the property rights
theorists at PERC in Bozeman, Mont. E F-G modestly lists herself as an
expert in: "Children  Family, Family Leave  Child Care, Education,
Welfare, Ethics  Religion, Feminist Ideology, Health: General, Health:
Ethics, Health: Women's, Popular Culture, Public Policy, Race  Ethnicity,
Affirmative Acdtion  Equal Opportunity, Glass Ceiling, Multiculturalism,
Sexual Harassment, Civil Rights, Economic Policy/Budget, Legal Issues/The
Law, Politics." I've not measured this scientifically but this list looks
longer than any other entrant's.

This comes upon news that E F-G's spouse, Eugene, in one evening in 1992
announced that he: 1) planned to vote for Bush, 2) loved the Gulf War, and
3) praised Pat Robertson as "a good anti-racist."

Doug

--

Doug Henwood
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Left Business Observer
250 W 85 St
New York NY 10024-3217
USA
+1-212-874-4020 voice
+1-212-874-3137 fax




[PEN-L:194] Re: Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

1995-08-24 Thread John R. Ernst

On Thu, 24 Aug 1995 "Harry M. Cleaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said: 
 
Harry, 
 
Can you suggest critiques of Genovese's slavery stuff that show how his
present and past politics are "embodied"  in his Political Economy of
Slavery, Roll, Jordan Roll, et al.  
 
Doug:  
 
Thanks for the update. Have they joined the Right Wing National
Association of  
Scholars?  Have they joined David Horowitz's "Second Thoughts" group of
ex-new  
lefties turned neoconservative? Probably not the latter. After all Eugene
was  
blasting the New Left years ago. His wife's association with the Right
appears  
quite consistent with his history of reactionary politics. The question is
how  
many readers of his "Marxist" work on slavery understood how those
politics  
were embodied in that work?  Those who didn`t understand it should go back
and  
read it again. 
 
Harry  
 
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Doug Henwood wrote: 
 
 I just got the press pack from the Independent Women's Forum, the 
 Washginton-based right-wing women's group headed by Barbara Ledeen, wife
of 
 the notorious covert operator Michael Ledeen. The IWF is funded in part
by 
 the Bradley Foundation, one of the major funders of the big-time right. 
 Elizabeth Fox-Genovese has joined the advisory board for their journal,
and 
 she also appears in their guide of experts along with Sheila Burke, Bob 
 Dole's chief of staff; Wendy Lee Gramm, free marketeer and spouse of
Phil; 
 and hip Gen X rightists Laura Ingraham and Lisa Schiffren; a number of 
 Republican staffers at Congressional committees; and a biger number of 
 think tanks at the usual places, from Heritage to the property rights 
 theorists at PERC in Bozeman, Mont. E F-G modestly lists herself as an 
 expert in: "Children  Family, Family Leave  Child Care, Education, 
 Welfare, Ethics  Religion, Feminist Ideology, Health: General, Health: 
 Ethics, Health: Women's, Popular Culture, Public Policy, Race 
Ethnicity, 
 Affirmative Acdtion  Equal Opportunity, Glass Ceiling,
Multiculturalism, 
 Sexual Harassment, Civil Rights, Economic Policy/Budget, Legal
Issues/The 
 Law, Politics." I've not measured this scientifically but this list
looks 
 longer than any other entrant's. 
  
 This comes upon news that E F-G's spouse, Eugene, in one evening in 1992

 announced that he: 1) planned to vote for Bush, 2) loved the Gulf War,
and 
 3) praised Pat Robertson as "a good anti-racist." 
  
 Doug 
  
 -- 
  
 Doug Henwood 
 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Left Business Observer 
 250 W 85 St 
 New York NY 10024-3217 
 USA 
 +1-212-874-4020 voice 
 +1-212-874-3137 fax 
  
  
  
 
...  
Harry Cleaver 
Department of Economics 
University of Texas at Austin 
Austin, Texas 78712-1173 
USA 
 
Phone Numbers: (hm)  (512) 442-5036 
   (off) (512) 471-3211, ext. 181 Fax: (512) 471-3510 
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Home Page:
http://www.eco.utexas.edu:80/Homepages/Faculty/Cleaver/index.html  
... 
 
-- 
John R. Ernst 



[PEN-L:196] Re: Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

1995-08-24 Thread Fikret Ceyhun

Doug and Harry,

Thanks for the enlightening information about Fox-Genovese 
couple. Who knows how many more renegates there are? Please keep digging in.

Ciao,

Fikret Ceyhun
Dept. of Economics  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Univ. of North Dakota   voice:  (701)777-3348   office
University Station, Box 8369(701)772-5135   home
Grand Forks, ND 58202   fax:(701)777-5099




[PEN-L:193] Re: Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

1995-08-24 Thread Harry M. Cleaver

Doug: 

Thanks for the update. Have they joined the Right Wing National 
Association of Scholars?  Have they joined David Horowitz's "Second 
Thoughts" group of ex-new lefties turned neoconservative? Probably not 
the latter. After all Eugene was blasting the New Left years ago. His 
wife's association with the Right appears quite consistent with his history 
of reactionary politics. The question is how many readers of his 
"Marxist" work on slavery understood how those politics were embodied 
in that work?  Those who didn`t understand it should go back and read it 
again.

Harry 


On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Doug Henwood wrote:

 I just got the press pack from the Independent Women's Forum, the
 Washginton-based right-wing women's group headed by Barbara Ledeen, wife of
 the notorious covert operator Michael Ledeen. The IWF is funded in part by
 the Bradley Foundation, one of the major funders of the big-time right.
 Elizabeth Fox-Genovese has joined the advisory board for their journal, and
 she also appears in their guide of experts along with Sheila Burke, Bob
 Dole's chief of staff; Wendy Lee Gramm, free marketeer and spouse of Phil;
 and hip Gen X rightists Laura Ingraham and Lisa Schiffren; a number of
 Republican staffers at Congressional committees; and a biger number of
 think tanks at the usual places, from Heritage to the property rights
 theorists at PERC in Bozeman, Mont. E F-G modestly lists herself as an
 expert in: "Children  Family, Family Leave  Child Care, Education,
 Welfare, Ethics  Religion, Feminist Ideology, Health: General, Health:
 Ethics, Health: Women's, Popular Culture, Public Policy, Race  Ethnicity,
 Affirmative Acdtion  Equal Opportunity, Glass Ceiling, Multiculturalism,
 Sexual Harassment, Civil Rights, Economic Policy/Budget, Legal Issues/The
 Law, Politics." I've not measured this scientifically but this list looks
 longer than any other entrant's.
 
 This comes upon news that E F-G's spouse, Eugene, in one evening in 1992
 announced that he: 1) planned to vote for Bush, 2) loved the Gulf War, and
 3) praised Pat Robertson as "a good anti-racist."
 
 Doug
 
 --
 
 Doug Henwood
 [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Left Business Observer
 250 W 85 St
 New York NY 10024-3217
 USA
 +1-212-874-4020 voice
 +1-212-874-3137 fax
 
 
 


Harry Cleaver
Department of Economics
University of Texas at Austin
Austin, Texas 78712-1173
USA

Phone Numbers: (hm)  (512) 442-5036
   (off) (512) 471-3211, ext. 181
Fax: (512) 471-3510
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home Page: http://www.eco.utexas.edu:80/Homepages/Faculty/Cleaver/index.html




[PEN-L:195] Re: Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

1995-08-24 Thread Louis N Proyect

Louis Proyect:

By the way, Doug and I both went after the Genovese gang on the Marxism 
list some months ago. I discussed a review of his new book and an old 
comrade of mine (not the one who is mentioned just below) offered some 
thoughtful reflections on Genovese's views on slavery.

 
  Louis Proyect:
 
 An old friend from my Troskyist days alerted me to a review of 
 Eugene Genovese's new book "Southern Discomfort" that appeared in 
 the London Review of Books (June 8, 1995). To my surprise, this book 
 seems to have eluded reviewers over here. Since it is appallingly 
 reactionary, you'd expect it to garner glowing page-one reviews in the 
 NY Times book review section, etc.
 
 Genovese offers up in this book a defense of the values and civilization 
 of the ante-bellum South. The only thing he rejects is slavery, but all 
 the rest of it--the agrarian life-style, the traditionalism, the 
 paternalism, etc.--seems to appeal to him immensely. He identifies 
 particularly with the Agrarian poets, a noxious offshoot of the new 
 criticism that included John Crowe Ransom and Allen Tate among 
 others. This crew hated the north, industrialization, democracy and 
 liberalism and were strongly influenced by the creepy T.S. Eliot.
 
 Genovese, now 63, was once briefly a member of the CPUSA. He was 
 a prominent opponent of the Vietnam war and left Rutgers University 
 in 1966 when the anti-Communist fervor was still strong. But a year 
 earlier Genovese showed signs of adapting to slavocracy. He was one 
 of the few scholars of the civil war who came to the defense of William 
 Styron's slimy "The Confessions of Nat Turner".
 
 Genovese, although a Yankee, began to discover his own affinity for 
 the slave-owner's society in his book "The World the Slaveowners 
 Made" (1969) and the forward to "American Negro Slavery" by U.B. 
 Phillips. Phillips and his own book try to make the case that the 
 slavocracy was "hegemonic" like no other ruling class in history. He 
 decries the racism but is fascinated by the "stability" of the old south.
 
 In 1974, Genovese came out with "Roll, Jordan, Roll: The World the 
 Slaves Made". According to him, masters and slaves struggled 
 together to create a "reasonably livable world of shared responsibilities 
 and obligations: an interpretation that scarcely pleased the Left or the 
 slaves' descendants", according to reviewer Bertram Wyatt-Brown 
 (now is that a British name, or is it!)
 
 The political thrust of Genovese's latest book is that the old south 
 championed "family values" and that this is something US society 
 needs to recover. If we bracket out the nastiness of chattel slavery, he 
 thinks there is a lot to be admired about the old south.
 
 Genovese has followed the same political trajectory as that of the 
 recently 
 deceased Christopher Lasch, who also in recent years had castigated 
 the excesses of 1960's radicalism. Both of these old farts reached 
 political maturity at a time when the left was a place where men were 
 men, women were women, and everybody knew their place. Thank 
 god for the woman's movement, the gay movement and the 
 counterculture. While these movements stuck in the craws of these old 
 geezers, this is one 50 year old who is nostalgic not for the stable and 
 traditional south, but the wild and woolly 1960's when everything was 
 coming apart at the seams.
 



On Tue, 18 Jul 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In Roll Jorday Roll Genovese pointed out that the record of slave revolt 
 in the American South was relatively minor.  He then asked a question that 
 deserved asking at the time.  "Why, since slavery is such an evil and 
 inhuman system, were there not more slave revolts?"  A question that we 
 can certainly ask profitably about wage slavery.  He then went on to 
 analyze the system of represssion and reward in the unique instance of 
 slavery in the South.  He pointed out that it was the only slave society 
 in history where the slaves reproduced themselves.  He pointed to the 
 uncomfortable fact that the standard of living of Southern slaves was 
 higher than that of factory workers in Europe and equal to that of factory 
 workers in the North.  In Roll he did not glorify paternalism, he 
 explained it.  I remember the experience of reading that book very clearly 
 because I felt at the time that Genovese offered an insight, namely that 
 social reality is complex and so are the people who make it up.  An evil 
 social system is not purely evil.  It's filled with positive features that 
 allow it to continue to exist.  Slavery, bondage and wage slavery, offer 
 freedom from choice, little risk as long as you stay within the prescribed 
 bounds.  With our short lives and perilous mortality, those are powerful 
 incentives to accept whatever is given.
 
 --[Reply - Original Message]--
On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Harry M. Cleaver wrote:

 Doug: 
 
 Thanks for the update. Have they joined 

[PEN-L:197] Re: Re: Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

1995-08-24 Thread Harry M. Cleaver

On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, John R. Ernst wrote:   
 Harry, 
  
 Can you suggest critiques of Genovese's slavery stuff that show how his
 present and past politics are "embodied"  in his Political Economy of
 Slavery, Roll, Jordan Roll, et al.  

John:

If by "critiques" you mean written/published critiques, I cannot. I've 
never seen the kind of critique I have in mind.  However, it is implicit 
in the work of what I would casually call "real" Marxist historians of 
slavery, such as C.L.R.James in his BLACK JACOBINS and George Rawick in 
his FROM SUNDOWN TO SUNUP.  Whereas Genovese's preoccupations from early 
on were primarily concerned with understanding southern slavery in terms 
of a non-capitalist "mode of production" headed by a distinct planter ruling 
class --an approach which diverted our attention from the self-activity 
of the slaves and from class struggle-- those two authors approached 
slavery from the bottom-up, seeking an understanding of the dynamics of 
struggle from the point of view of the slaves themselves.  Although I 
can't prove it, my guess is that it was this kind of infinately more 
interesting work --that constituted a political alternative to his 
own previous approach-- that prompted Genovese to do the work that led to 
ROLL, JORDON ROLL. When James reissued THE BLACK JAOBINS in 1962 he 
attached an essay "From Toussaint L'Overture to Fidel Castro" tying his 
1938 work directly to Third World revolution in the 1960s. James was 
getting plenty of play from the New Left by the end of 1960s, e.g., 
RADICAL AMERICA's Special Issue in May 1970. Rawick, who had worked with 
and was inspired by James, and who had been assembling a massive 
collection of slave narratives, published his FROM SUNDOWN TO SUNUP in 
1972.  More generally, by the late 1960s "bottom-up" history focusing on 
the self-activity of the working class (e.g., Thompson, Hill, Hilton) was 
rapidly displacing top-down narratives both from the right (most 
mainstream history) and from the left (e.g., Dobb, Geneovese) in the 
attentions of young, progressive historians and activist readers of 
history. Genovese's ROLL,JORDON,ROLL appeared in 1974.

Now the interrelationship of the historical work of all these authors 
with their theory and their politics is one of the most interesting 
things about them --and too often ignored by those who read their work 
as merely history.  Just as we can only understand Genovese's approach 
to slavery within the context of his own politics, so is this also true 
for the others. THE BLACK JACOBINS certainly bears the mark of James' 
Trotskyism in that period, just as Thompson's MAKING OF THE 
ENGLISH WORKING CLASS was shaped by his prior experience in the 
Communist Party. The ability of their students and followers to go 
beyond the limits of the work of such major figures in Marxist history, 
has in turn been closely related to their own experience with theory 
and politics.  You can begin to get a sense of this by looking at the 
work of one of Thompson's students, Peter Linebaugh. On the one hand 
you can examine his historical work in ALBION'S FATAL TREE and his 
magistral THE LONDON HANGED; on the other you can look at his 
pamphleteering political uses of his historical research, e.g., his 
LIZARD TALK gift to the AIDS movement (now available on-line at 
gopher://mundo.eco.utexas.edu:70/1m/mailing/chiapas95.archive/Lizard%20Talk) 
or his recent article to THE NATION concerning Mumia and the death penalty.   

I wish I knew, and could give you, a citation to an article of the kind 
that needs to be written about Genovese's history, his theory and his 
politics, but I can't. Nor do I have time to write one, at this point. 
Sorry.

Harry



 On Thu, 24 Aug 1995 "Harry M. Cleaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said: 
  
 Doug:  
  
 Thanks for the update. Have they joined the Right Wing National
 Association of  
 Scholars?  Have they joined David Horowitz's "Second Thoughts" group of
 ex-new  
 lefties turned neoconservative? Probably not the latter. After all Eugene
 was  
 blasting the New Left years ago. His wife's association with the Right
 appears  
 quite consistent with his history of reactionary politics. The question is
 how  
 many readers of his "Marxist" work on slavery understood how those
 politics  
 were embodied in that work?  Those who didn`t understand it should go back
 and  
 read it again. 
  
 Harry  
  
  
 On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, Doug Henwood wrote: 
  
  I just got the press pack from the Independent Women's Forum, the 
  Washginton-based right-wing women's group headed by Barbara Ledeen, wife
 of 
  the notorious covert operator Michael Ledeen. The IWF is funded in part
 by 
  the Bradley Foundation, one of the major funders of the big-time right. 
  Elizabeth Fox-Genovese has joined the advisory board for their journal,
 and 
  she also appears in their guide of experts along with Sheila Burke, Bob 
  Dole's chief of staff; Wendy Lee Gramm, free marketeer and spouse of
 

[PEN-L:198] Re: Re: Elizabeth Fox-Genovese

1995-08-24 Thread Chip Cariappa




 On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, John R. Ernst wrote:   
  Harry, 
   
  Can you suggest critiques of Genovese's slavery stuff that show how his
  present and past politics are "embodied"  in his Political Economy of
  Slavery, Roll, Jordan Roll, et al.  
 
 John:  You might also want to look at Herbert Gutman's works like Power 
and Culture and The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom, 1750-1925.  
These books also contain citations of Gutman's articles in journals, 
etc.  There was a long history of antagonism between the two and it 
created quite a few sparks.  Incidentally, Gutman is also the author of 
Slavery and the Numbers Game, a critique of Fogel and Engerman's 
reactionary book on slavery entitled Time on the Cross.

Chip Cariappa
Graduate Student
UT - Austin



[PEN-L:199] Urgent Reply Needed on Efficiency Wage Question

1995-08-24 Thread HEATHER GROB

Does anyone have citations to articles that empirically prove the existence of
efficiency wages?  Thanks in advanceHeather Grob



[PEN-L:200] Re: Urgent Reply Needed on Efficiency Wage Question

1995-08-24 Thread Tavis Barr


I don't think you'll find an agreed upon method to sort out efficiency 
wages from compensating differentials.  There are few direct, objective, 
general measures of effort, capital specificity, bargaining power, etc.  The 
one article I know of, as evidence against efficiency wages, was by David
Gordon, printed in AER 1990.  It found that wages were positively 
correlated with the amount of supervision, rather than negatively, as 
the effort-wage hypothesis would predict.


Good luck,
Tavis


On Thu, 24 Aug 1995, HEATHER GROB wrote:

 Does anyone have citations to articles that empirically prove the existence of
 efficiency wages?  Thanks in advance  Heather Grob