[PEN-L:1170] help needed

1995-10-30 Thread Fikret Ceyhun


Dear PENers,

I need e-mail or phone numbers of either one of these:

John Charles Pool, 
Stephen C. Stamos,
Patrice Franko Jones,
who published a text: "THE ABCs OF INTERNATIONAL FINANCE." If you know, 
please respond directly to me. Thank you in advance.

Fikret

Fikret Ceyhun
Dept. of Economics  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Univ. of North Dakota   voice:  (701)777-3348   office
University Station, Box 8369(701)772-5135   home
Grand Forks, ND 58202   fax:(701)777-5099




[PEN-L:1171] why get rid of the Commerce Department?

1995-10-30 Thread James Devine

In addition to the reasons that Doug mentions for why the 
GOPsters want to abolish the Commerce Dept, I would bet that one 
-- never spoken -- reason is that the Dept. is currently being 
run by a black man (and one who wasn't a Clarence Thomas). I'd 
bet that this was also one of the reasons for the antagonism 
toward Jocelyn Elders and Henry Foster (plus the general GOP 
attitude that if Clinton likes something the GOP must be against 
it).

BTW, the GOPsters want to get rid of the Labor Dept. next. Along 
with the other reasons, I bet they don't like Robert Reich. The 
ultra-opportunists at the White House are probably willing to 
sacrifice him so they can look more "presidential," i.e., more 
Republican.

As for Peter Burns' question about the GOP actually stimulating 
private investment and thus the economy: yes, they can do that. 
But such a profits-led boom encourages investment to get further 
out of line with consumer demand, implying greater tendency 
toward recession. 

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ., Los Angeles, CA 90045-2699 USA
310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
"Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way
and let people talk.) -- K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante A.





[PEN-L:1172] Re: Gilder's delusions

1995-10-30 Thread jones/bhandari

Gilder's delusions are this nation's spectacles.  

My first and totally ignored post on the MMM ('the cult of the
male')pointed out the link between Farrakhan and the 'independent' right as
I quoted from Gilder's Men and Marriage, critically reviewed by the way in
a helpful comparative study of Britain and the US by Pamela Abbott and
Claire Wallace, *The Family and the New Right* (London: Pluto, 1991). 

 By independent right, I mean those working from powerful institutions
which are able to foist upon the public the vilest propaganda without any
sort of peer review.  The independence of these right-wing thinkers was for
example underlined and lamented in the *American Economic Review's*
critical piece on the *Bell Curve*. 

Murray's earlier shit was discredited in many reviews; at any rate, Clinton
only recently suggested that Murray was indeed correct--in other words,
Clinton showed all the potential of  a social-fascist.  This speaks to my
point that Murray and Gilder need to be taken seriously, no matter how
vacuous one finds their analysis.   

Gilder of course concludes today's WSJ article with the most resounding
applause for the MMM.  

I won't reproduce the last two paragraphs; I trust that those who are
interested will read it.  

What are the political implications of Gilder's 'delusions' in the context
of today's economy?  I don't think it is simply to cut AFDC and any job
training for women, so as to force them to become dependent upon men and
restore the patriarchal family through which boys are to be socialized as
hard-working proletarians. Of course, undercutting women's independence may
 not lead them into marriage, and it won't establish men as economically
powerful enough to become patriarchs.  The "Leave it to Beaver" family,
then a fantasy, is even more of one now. 

So the real agenda now is both to round up the boys into boot-camps in
which they are to receive this patriarchal socialization (see James Q
Wilson) and to commence the sterilization of women on the grounds that it
is a "menace to society" to allow them to have children without fathers. 
Tellingly, Charles Murray has openly supported full abortion rights for the
so-called underclass.  In other words, the agenda is quickly moving from
neglect to further and deeper coercion, and the NOI is being set up to play
a very important role in this.

For the threat of sterilization, see the disturbing book by UC Berkeley
sociologist Troy Duster, *The Backdoor to Eugenics*. Routledge. 

Rakesh Bhandari
Ph.D. Candidate
Group in Ethnic Studies
UC Berkeley 






[PEN-L:1173] steel experts?

1995-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood

A subscriber of mine, Tom Lehmann, is looking for someone who knows the
steel industry well and who is sympathetic to labor to talk about the
industry and the general economic environment for a joint union-management
seminar to be held in Lorain County, Ohio. Anyone interested in
volunteering, or if you have any suggestions of people you'd be happy to
volunteer, please contact Lehmann at 800-227-7113, ext. 2412 during
business hours, Ohio time.

Thanks.

Doug

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USA
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[PEN-L:1175] Re: Gilder's...

1995-10-30 Thread MScoleman

Just to add a couple of minor points to Rakesh Bahandri's post, which I think
is very good:

1.  The sterilization of poor and non-European women has been around for
years and years, it is just gaining popularity again.  NARAL -- For example,
 (the National Abortion Rights Action League) has had policies opposing
forced sterilization since the group's inception in the early 70s.
 Opposition from the right to abortion has always contained strong class and
race elements.  When pushed, most right wingers would probably admit that
they oppose abortion for middle and upper class white women, not all women.  
  The gynecology business also has clearly racist trends.  According
to Gail Sheehy in "Silent Passage" the majority of African American women in
this country have had full hysterectomies before menopause while for women of
other races, a full hysterectomy is rarely ordered.  

2.  The history of social welfare policies in this country is full of methods
to track the poor back into jobs with sub-standard wages.  Generally, most
Americans see that women with children are deserving of help.  Once those
women do not have children, then they are no longer deserving of help and can
be forced into minimum wage or less than minimum wage jobs.  Thus, we now
have judges ordering welfare mothers to have Norplant implants against their
will -- and judges who refuse to reverse their rulings even when women have
severe complications from the Norplant.  [Norplant is a series of small tubes
filled with contraceptive which are surgically implanted under a woman's skin
in her upper arm].  Of course, none of these judges order men to wear condoms


maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[PEN-L:1174] Re: Gilder's delusions

1995-10-30 Thread akliman

Excellent post, Rakesh!  Rakesh makes two extremely important points:  
Farrakhan is Gingrich in blackface; and the right's policy proposals are
 pointing towards genocide from several directions.  Let's not forget that
 Murray and Herrnstein have floated the idea of turning the ghettos into
 reservations--as Perot did somewhat earlier.  

What makes the Farrakhan thing so troubling is that Black folk in this
 country have been a consistent voice of opposition, for freedom, against
 racism, for new social relations, against poverty and unemployment.  At a
 time when other voices of opposition are not loud, the voices raised in the
 LA rebellion seem even louder.  Now that the right is so ascendant and
 so powerful, it seems like they're engaging in a mop-up operation--having
 gotten so much of their agenda accomplished and having squelched so much 
 other opposition, they are now in a position to try to divide and conquer,
 the Black community.

Now is the time to focus on divisions between Black masses and Black "leaders,"
 and within the Black leadership.  Now is the time to focus on how the right
 is trying to separate the Black middle class from the proletariat and 
"underclass" (Farrakhan speaks for a section of the Black petty bourgeoisie,
 mostly ghetto businessMEN).

Above all, we must be on the alert for fascism and genocide.  The Gingriches
 will not be able to solve this country's, much less the world's, problems.
 They will not make things better for even the native-born, white, male
 part of the working class.  The global economic slump is too intractable,
 and too serious for that.  (Anyone who thinks the US economy is in great
 shape, like Lucas, should reflect on why the prosperity can only exist by
 virtue of the impoverishment of working people, devastation of Africa and
 Latin America and the reverse flow of finance connected to it, and an
 uncontrollable public and private debt.)  So what is next?  Outright fascism
 is a real possibility.  Automation, drugs, and falling wages have already 
 devastated the ghettos; the cuts in welfare--in addition to a decade or more
 of cutting--will do more damage.  So genocide is already taking place, in a
 fashion.  If the need for a scapegoat to deflect attention from capitalism
 as a system becomes greater, though, things will be even worse.

The uppermost need today is to develop an alternative, liberatory IDEA of
 the future that can serve as a pole of attraction against the right.  The
 Left has concentrated on programs, expose's, strategies and given the right
 the ability to dominate in ideas, which is the most dangerous thing.  The
 Left used to tailend the liberals' ideas, but the economic slump has long ago
 bankrupted the economy and bankrupted the liberalism that was founded on
 a growing economy.  Now, only the right seems to be giving people a 
 *comprehensive* explanation for their suffering.  It is balme-the-victim
 bullshit and worse, but we all do need to make sense of our experience as
 a whole, and in the absence of a better alternative, the right's crap
 does possess an attraction for many.

Andrew Kliman



[PEN-L:1176] Repub budget

1995-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood

I've just gotten the Democratic staff of the Joint Economic Committee's
estimates of the distributional effects of the Republican budget proposals.

Combining tax and spending changes yields the following effects by income
quintile in FY2002:

CHANGE IN INCOME BY QUINTILE, 2002
dollars % of income
poorest -2,497 -23.3%
second  -1,085 - 3.9
middle  -  419 - 0.9
fourth  +   17 + 0.0
richest +  760 + 0.4

These numbers are from the House proposals. Senate numbers are pretty much
the same. They include only benefit changes that can be allocated to
specific income groupings; they exclude spending on RD, environment,
transportation, etc., that are difficult if not impossible to allocate.

Every income class is hit by spending cuts; only the top 40% get an
appreciable tax break.

Doug

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Left Business Observer
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USA
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[PEN-L:1177] Re: Gilder's...

1995-10-30 Thread GC-ETCHISON, MICHAEL

Maggie Coleman, as seen 10/30, hangs around different rightists and 
leftists than I do.  Contrary to what her assumption appears to be, the 
right-to-lifers I know oppose abortion among poor black women just as 
among rich white.  (They may, separately, think that the poor blacks are 
unfit mothers, and may do so for uncontestably racist/sexist/classist 
reasons, but few anti-abortionists would except poor blacks.  To the 
contrary -- the thorough-going racists among them  _favor_ abortions 
among poor women, especially blacks.)  You see, anti-abortionists don't 
think of  an abortion that didn't happen as a diminution of someone's 
right; they think of it as a life saved.  So opposing abortions is not 
_harming_ someone, in their view.

On the other hand, it is a dirty little secret that not a few liberals 
approve abortion precisely because it reduces the number of undesirables. 
 Just as Ms. Sanger wanted in the first place.

Boy, real life gets in the way of slogans, doesn't it?

Michael Etchison

[opinions mine, not the PUCT's]





[PEN-L:1178]

1995-10-30 Thread HTUP

Here's an article (from a speech) I wrote last fall which has new
significance tonight.  Elaine
Original message
A Quick Background to the Quebec Sovereignty Issue
for American Progressives

by Elaine Bernard
Harvard Trade Union Program

 As general background and context to a discussion of the
Quebecois nationalist movement in Canada, it's useful to begin
with some general comments on Canadian society, the Anglophone
(English-speaking) Canadian identity, and the Canadian federal
state.  Canada, similar to the US, was established as a colonial
settler state by European colonial powers.  England and France
fought over the territory for many years with the British finally
winning in 1759 in the battle of the Plains of Abraham (Quebec
City).  This rather obscure battle between two imperial powers
over possession of the Northern most colonies in North America
has lived on in popular culture as an epithet flung at Quebecois
whenever Quebec seeks rights or recognition of its unique
character.  "Don't they know they lost the battle of the Plains
of Abraham?"

 Beyond the historic imperial battles, there is a clear
recognition that Canada as an emerging state has always had to
tread very carefully, surviving first as a colony of Britain, the
greatest imperial power of the last century, and then coming of
age next door to the new major imperial power, the U.S.  Never
far from the mind of Canadians was the threat to their existance
by the giant to the South, though this threat played out somewhat
differently for each nationality.

 Quebecois, as a Francophone nation within North America,
have been concerned with preserving their language and culture
against the pressure of English language and cultural dominance
in both the US and Canada.  Historically, the fear of
assimilation has generally pushed the Francophones into an uneasy
alliance with English Canada as a weaker assimulationist force.
For example, when the British permitted Quebec to maintain its
religion, language and civil code -- this fact was listed as a
grievance by the rebellious 13 colonies in their Declaration of
Independence.  As is so often the case when dealing with issues
of nationalism -- one nations liberty was anothers grievance.
Britain's policy towards Quebece assured the loyalty of the newly
conquered colony during the American revolution.

 Anglophone Canadians take great pride in their national
identity and see themselves as quite distinct from Americans --
in culture, political institutions and community.  But lacking
the barrier of a separate language, Anglophone Canadians often
find themselves on the defensive being required to explain how
they are "different" from Americans, as if the US constituted the
norm and all others are required to explain deviations.
Accordingly many Canadians engage in humorous quibs about their
society by referencing US themes -- for example, Canada is the
"kindler, gentler nation" evoked by President George Bush, or
Canadians are simply "Minnesotans with universal health care," or
"Americans without guns."

 Countries and nations are, of course, conscious socially
constructed communities.  A limited but sharp contrast of the
different beliefs and goals of Canadian society in comparison to
the US can be found in the values outlined in the founding
documents of the two countries.  While the US founders proclaimed
a country dedicated to "life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness," Canadians united under the promise of "peace, order
and good government."

 Countless history books describe the development of the
Canadian state as the peaceful passage from "colony to nation,"
though since the adoption of the Canada/US Free Trade Agreement
some have suggested it might better be characterized as "colony
to nation to colony."  While the "peaceful" characterization of
the development of the Canadian state is somewhat exaggerated --
the settlement of Canada was hardly a peaceful process when view
from the perspective of indigenous people -- in contrast to the
US, however, there was no revolutionary break from the colonial
power, no civil war, and few battles with the indegenous people.


 Canada's founding document, the British North America Act of
1867, was an act of the British Parliament which unified British
North America into a single federal state and set out the
division of power between the federal state and the provincial
governments.  In contrast to the U.S., Canadian provinces are
relatively strong with considerable legislative power and have
been innovators in public policy.  Most social policy areas,
including education, health care, labor law, and welfare are
provincial responsibilities.  The federal government is in charge
of "peace, order and good government," but the residual powers go
to the provinces.  The Canadian federal government has been able
to establish national programs through the use of its
considerable 

[PEN-L:1179] New book on racism

1995-10-30 Thread David Landes


I highly recommend a new book by my colleague Paul Kivel--"Uprooting 
Racism:  How White People Can Work for Racial Justice."  It tackles all 
the hard issues--affirmative action, immigration, whiteness, 
multiculturalism, interrupting personal remarks, the police--while giving 
white people practical steps to take to intervene in workplace, school, 
institutiional and interpersonal interactions.  It is filled with 
stories, suggestions, advice, exercises and approaches for working 
together to fight racism.  Uprooting Racism is easy to read, accessible, 
supportive, and challenging.  Endorsements include Howard Zinn, Ron 
Davis, Highlander Center, and Morris Dees, Southern Poverty Law Center, 
among others.

Uprooting Racism should be available in local bookstores, or directly 
from the publisher, New Society, at 800-333-9093.  

Paul Kivel would appreciate feedback at pkivelnetcom.com.  



[PEN-L:1180] Re: AFL-CIO's New Era

1995-10-30 Thread Mike Bradley

Friends,

I just joined these lists (pen-l and labor-l) because I discovered you
were talking about me. I wrote the message to Doug Henwood and Nathan
Newman about their possible copyright infringement that has been discussed
here.

First, I sent the this followup on the 25th, right after their "bullshit" 
and "jackboot" messages:

---


That's not what I said, guys. Please just listen to what I said:

  Sometimes you distribute copyrighted materials without permission.

  The penalties for that can be severe.

  If you're not going to stop, you should educate yourselves about the law
  and protect yourselves as best you can.

That's all that I said.


As far as free distribution on the Internet goes, the way libraries do it
is very different from the way that you do it. Libraries pay copying fees,
mainly to the Copyright Clearance Center. This gives them the right to
distribute copies to lenders.

You don't pay those fees, so, as I said, you're laying yourselves open to
severe penalties.

And as far as the Writers Union is concerned, maybe you don't understand how
a freelance writer makes a living. It isn't by selling an article once; it's
by selling it several times. Your publishing our articles makes it more
difficult for us to get those additional sales.

For a freelancer, the first sale of an article is the most important, but
subsequent sales, sometimes involving rewrites, are critical to earning more
than the minimum wage. A writer puts in many hours on the first version of
a story but is paid by the word or with a straight fee, not by the hour.
Translating the payment into an hourly wage shows freelancers usually
earn less than the minimum wage.

Subsequent sales are extremely important, then, because we don't spend as much
time writing them. Our hourly wage increases to a decent level, and some of
us can even afford to buy our own homes.

Of course, your distribution of articles doesn't harm subsequent sales very
much, but it's galling for writers that you, whom we generally view as
allies, harm us in a way that's so central to our livelihoods, especially
since publishers are beating hell out of us in exactly the same way--
distributing our articles online without permission.

Do you see? It's not the money. It's having enough control over our work
that we can earn a living from it. You take some of that control away.
It's not fair.

---


I'd like to add just a few notes.

- Doug and Nathan keep attacking the Writers Union as though my message were
  an official union position. It isn't, of course. I only included my union
  membership to provide context for my remarks. I should have made that
  clear in the original message.

  The union repeatedly and energetically defends fair use for, guess who,
  writers and libraries. How could it do otherwise? Writers need fair use and
  libraries for our very survival. On the other hand, we are also, like it or
  not, entrepeneurs whose product is intellectual property. We're not always
  comfortable or successful in our dual roles of consumer and producer, but 
  the Writers Union takes a back seat to no one in its efforts to balance
  the two.

- Doug's and Nathan's insults about me, other list writers and the union
  are flat out unacceptable, and they show an appalling lack of solidarity.

- Jim Westrich on the pen-l list made the comment that copyright law is
  largely a question of power. I thought that was a useful insight. Without
  intellectual property and copyright law, writers would have been savaged
  by more than one publisher long ago. But Doug and Jim suggest that I was
  trying to use copyright law to stifle criticism of the AFL-CIO. Hardly.
  I'm well to the left of the AFL-CIO and feel that it needs much more
  criticism from the labor movement.

  Jim also wrote this:

   Would the Wall Street Journal sue some grade school newspaper? (well,
   Disney would but that's a different matter) Would they sue Barron's?
   Left Business Observer? LaborNet?

  I think the answer to his questions is an unqualified "Yes!" That's why
  I was concerned for Doug and Nathan. Corporations and the federal
  government are being very aggressive, making life miserable not just for
  BBSs operators who distribute pornography, but for copyright infringers
  as well.

  If Doug and Nathan want to take the risk, more power to them. I was just
  concerned that it be an informed risk.

  Nuff said.


Solidarity,

Mike Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[PEN-L:1181] Re:

1995-10-30 Thread HANLY

Elaine's recent post on the background of the Quebec referendum was
quite succinct and gives a reasonably accurate picture of the situation
within a short post. However, it should be added that a large area of
northern Quebec is inhabited by (and claimed by) aboriginal groups--
who also claim
they are nations and want some form of self-government. The Cree of the James
Bay area have already had a referendum in which the vote was 90 some percent
in favor of remaining in Canada. The Inuit will no doubt take the same
position.
   If the vote tonight is NO there may be at least some possibility for
assymetrical federalism. If the vote is YES (for sovereignty) I don't think
there is a snowball's chance in hell of any political federation. However,
 when emotions cool in the ROC (rest of Canada) no doubt
there will be economic linkages worked out. 
Elaine should have noted that the referendum
question is not all that clear. It holds out the hope to those who vote
yes that there may be a new POLITICAL arrangement worked out between a
sovereign Quebec and ROC. In fact twenty percent of those who intend
to vote YES think that they will continue to have representatives in
the Canadian parliament and even larger percentages think that they will use
the Canadian dollar and have Canadian passports. This is completely
unreal. I expect genuine separatists are well aware of this and use
the political bargaining as a clever hook to reel in soft sovereigntists.
   While ELaine is correct that many progressives plump for assymmetrical
Federalism to me this seems to be completely out of the question and
to have minimal public support. 
   Cheers, Ken Hanly
..



[PEN-L:1182] Re: AFL-CIO's New Era

1995-10-30 Thread Doug Henwood

At 3:44 PM 10/30/95, Mike Bradley wrote:

- Doug's and Nathan's insults about me, other list writers and the union
  are flat out unacceptable, and they show an appalling lack of solidarity.

A lack of solidarity with myself? I pay dues to the damn National Writers
Union, and one reason your post bugged me was because of your touting your
NWU label. Carrying water for Dow Jones isn't my idea of a high priority in
organizing the working class, if you can call us inkstained wretches
working class. This has grown tedious.

Doug

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[PEN-L:1183] Interest Rates the Deficit

1995-10-30 Thread John R. Ernst

Pen-L'ers   
 
I think what Burns asks are some darn good questions for those 
concerned about an ananlysis of captialism today.
 
1. Does cutting the deficit reduce interest rates? 
 
2. Would a reduction in interest rates cause an increase 
in investmnet?  
 
I've go to think about these questions.  Anybody got answers? 
 
 
John 
 
 
 
On Sun, 29 Oct 1995 Robert Peter Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 
 
 
 
In the midst of the current Republican savagery 
against the poor and working classes of America, 
I am haunted by a nagging worry.  It goes like this: 
 
Suppose the socially callous budget-cutters do 
succeed in substantially reducing the deficit. 
Will that, as they claim, really result in  
significantly lower interest rates?  Might not 
"the markets" reward the GOP bastards with lower 
interest rates, even if only out of a sense of political  
solidarity? If this happens, won't many people such as  
homeowners, etc, enjoy lower mortgage and other interest  
sensitive payments, and won't they then think the strategy 
is working for them, even as the poor and the unemployed 
go to the wall?  And might not the lower interest rates 
induce a boom in private investment?  In other words, 
might the Republican strategy, despite its manifest 
unfairness, nonetheless "work" for a large enough 
segment of the population to ensure their definitive 
political triumph? 
 
End of nagging worry.  Now the question: is there any 
good reason--theoretical or empirical--to believe that  
fiscal conservatism really does result typically, in  
general, etc. in reduced interest rates? 
 
Peter Burns SJ 
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