[PEN-L:7442] Re: transgressive running dogs of performativity II

1996-11-18 Thread Tom Walker

On second thought, here's a better idea: a whole *family* of m-l sectarians
-- Jed, Jethro, Ellie-may and granma Hoxha -- is accidently granted
tenure-track positions at an ivy league comparative lit department. After
all, this is America, folks. Land of opportunity.
Regards, 

Tom Walker
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[PEN-L:7443] FW: BLS Daily Report

1996-11-18 Thread Richardson_D

BLS DAILY REPORT, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1996

RELEASED TODAY:
 PPI -- The Producer Price Index for Finished Goods advanced 0.4 
percent in October, seasonally adjusted.  This followed a 0.2 percent 
increase in September and a 0.3 percent rise in August.  Prices for both 
finished energy goods and finished consumer foods rose more than in the 
prior month.  By contrast, the index for finished goods other than food and 
energy fell 0.3 percent after rising 0.3 percent in September 
 QUALITY CHANGES FOR 1997 MODEL VEHICLES -- The value of quality 
changes for a sample of 15 1997 model domestic passenger cars included in 
the PPI for October represented 45.9 percent of the average yearly increase 
in producers' prices and 55.7 percent of the average yearly increase in 
manufacturers' suggested list prices 

A downsizing record -- The Sunbeam Corporation said it would cut its work 
force by half, or 6,000 jobs, in what is believed to be, in terms of 
percentage, the biggest corporate staff cut ever (New York Times, page 
D1)_Sunbeam would eliminate 50 percent of the company's 12,000 
employees and sell or consolidate 39 of its 53 facilities.  The company 
will shed several lines of businesses and scrap 87 percent of Sunbeam's 
products (Wall Street Journal, page B1).

Major airlines are tightening their grip at large airports, blocking use by 
new carriers and causing ticket prices to rise, a General Accounting Office 
report says (Wall Street Journal, page A2).

The Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, in its annual 
report card on the U.S. economy, gave it an "A" and predicted another 
couple of years of "full employment with fairly low inflation" (Wall 
Street Journal, page A2).

DUE OUT TOMORROW:
 Consumer Price Index -- October 1996
 Real Earnings:  October 1996




[PEN-L:7444] FW: BLS Daily Report

1996-11-18 Thread Richardson_D

FYI, believe that the CPI was up 0.3% but don*t place any great store by 
the *reasons* given.

Dave Richardson
 --

BLS DAILY REPORT, THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 1996

RELEASED TODAY:
 CPI -- On a seasonally adjusted basis, the CPI-U rose 0.3 percent in 
October, the same as in September.  The food index rose 0.6 percent in 
September, reflecting sharp increases in prices for dairy products and for 
fresh fruits and vegetables.  The energy index registered its first 
increase since May, advancing 0.7 percent in October.  The index for 
petroleum-based energy increased 1.4 percent, while the index for energy 
services was unchanged.  Excluding food and energy, the CPI rose 0.2 
percent, following a 0.3 percent increase in September.  Declines in 
vehicle purchase costs and in the index for household furnishings and 
operation and a smaller increase in the index for airline fares more than 
offset a larger increase in shelter costs 

 REAL EARNINGS -- Real average weekly earnings fell by 1.5 percent from 
September to October after seasonal adjustment.  This decline is attributed 
to a 1.2 percent decrease in average weekly hours and a 0.3 percent rise in 
the CPI-W.  Average hourly earnings were unchanged in October Real 
average weekly earnings declined by 0.6 percent between October of 1995 and 
1996 

_Although the PPI for finished goods rose 0.4 percent, seasonally 
adjusted, in October, the core rate dipped 0.3 percent, BLS reports For 
the year ended in October, the PPI for finished goods has risen 3 percent, 
but the core rate has advanced only 0.8 percent.  Despite a surge in energy 
and food prices in October, analysts voiced confidence that inflation is 
well contained BLS also announced quality adjustments for 1997 model 
vehicles.  This is the value BLS places on the improvements and deducts 
from the cost of each car sampled This change, theoretically at least, 
can depress the price increases on passenger cars, said Shannon Martin, a 
BLS economist who works with quality adjustments.  Martin could not 
estimate what effect the quality adjustment had on the October passenger 
car index (Daily Labor Report, pages 2,D-1).
_Amid clear signs that economic growth has slowed and inflation remains 
low, Federal Reserve policymakers met but, as expected left short-term 
interest rates unchanged Since mid-September, new figures on the 
nation's GDP, payroll employment growth, consumer spending and industrial 
production have all indicated that economic growth has slowed significantly 
since early summer Earlier yesterday, the Labor Department reported 
that producer prices for finished goods rose 0.4 percent in October. 
 However, the so-called core portion had declined by 0.3 percent The 
gyrations in the core portion of the index over the past two months were 
largely the result of seasonal adjustment problems with prices for 1997 
model cars.  In recent years, carmakers have varied their schedules for 
introducing new models.  In September, when more new cars than usual were 
sold to dealers, seasonally adjusted producer prices for the vehicles rose 
1.2 percent.  Then last month, when prices did not rise as much as normal 
-- because models had been introduced the month before -- the new car index 
showed a 1.6 percent decline (Washington Post, page E3).
_The Fed leaves interest rates unchanged, and the decline in the "core" 
producer price index for October confirms that inflation is dormant.  The 
core rate decline was the sharpest in two years (Wall Street Journal, 
page A2).

Employers plan to hire more new college graduates in 1997 than in 1996, due 
to increased demand for workers with computer and engineering skills, 
according to a survey released by the National Association of Colleges and 
Employers.  The increase in hiring continues an upward trend in recent 
years (Daily Labor Report, page A-1).

Nearly seven out of 10 employers responding to BNA's annual holiday survey 
(69 percent) designated two-day paid holiday period for both Thanksgiving 
and the next day, compared with 65 percent in 1995 (Daily Labor Report, 
page A-2).

President Clinton is aiming to name a new secretary of labor prior to his 
Jan. 20 inauguration, according to Robert B. Reich, the current 
officeholder.  The president would like to fill the post before Reich 
leaves in hopes that overlap between the two actions will help ensure 
continuity in the department's operations, the labor secretary tells an 
employee meeting.  Aiming for a smooth transition, Reich says he is working 
to convince his senior staff to remain at the Labor Department because 
"continuity is so important" (Daily Labor Report, page A-4).








[PEN-L:7445] Re: more science!

1996-11-18 Thread Doug Henwood

At 6:52 PM 11/17/96, Mark Weisbrot wrote:

I would like to think that the traditional left has had as much of an
influence on the academy as the pomos have, but it doesn't seem to be true.
Noam Chomsky, whose critique of pomo I agree with, has had a pretty small
audience for his political writings. Until the recent pamphlets published by
Odonian press, his largest-selling book was "The Manufacture of Consent,"
(co-authored with Ed Herman). This book sold about 25,000 copies. This is
very sad but true, and I think if it weren't for his academic superstardom
in linguistics, he wouldn't have gotten as far as he did.

The last point is 100% true, and it's one of many reasons to admire the
guy. Someone of his scholarly stature in linguistics - I'm told that around
MIT he's regarded as the equivalent of an Einstein for his scientific work
- could easily have joined the ruling class and had a very posh life.
Instead he's used his fame to pursue an against-the-grain political line.

But his political influence extends beyond the sale of his books. Radio
interviews, speeches, a film, excerpts on rock  roll records, a column in
Z, an alt.fan.noam-chomsky newsgroup - all the while being frozen out of
mainstream media, and with a very serious and scholarly style. Is there any
radical who's more famous and/or more influential?


The comparison with Chomsky is a good one though, for illustrating a
couple of points. One is that the pomos have been able to establish
themselves in academia partly *because* they have developed an inpenetrable
jargon that serves (as does most of the math in economics) to insulate them
from criticism of the non-initiated.

And because they're safely isolated in literature departments. God forbid
they should get appointments in ecnoomics or politics.

Doug

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[PEN-L:7446] FW: BLS Daily Report

1996-11-18 Thread Richardson_D

BLS DAILY REPORT, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 1996

_A surge in energy and food prices drove up the CPI-U by a seasonally 
adjusted 0.3 percent in October, but analysts remain confident inflation is 
well under control.  The so-called core rate of inflation -- minus volatile 
food and energy components -- edged up just 0.2 percent in October.  In the 
year ended in October, the CPI-U advanced 3 percent and the core rate 2.6 
percent.  Economists say the inflation picture is as good as it has been in 
decades.  Food and energy prices are likely to calm down in the near 
future, they say (Daily Labor Report, pages 2,D-3).
_The first increase in gasoline prices since May helped push consumer 
prices up 0.3 percent in October, while retail sales posted a modest 
advance (The Washington Post, AP story, page C13; Washington Times, 
page B12).
_Stock prices again rose to records, as reports on consumer prices and 
retail sales added evidence that the economy is growing slowly, with little 
inflation (New York Times, pages D1,D6; Wall Street Journal, pages 
A2,C1).

Inflation-adjusted weekly earnings of most U.S. workers tumbled a 
seasonally adjusted 1.5 percent in October, dragged down by a large drop in 
hours worked plus an uptick in inflation, BLS reported (Daily Labor 
Report, page D-12).

An editorial in the Wall Street Journal on "The Marriage Gap" contains the 
following -- "Women hold down a lot of jobs in government:  BLS reports 
that in a 1995 work force of some 125 million, about 18 million Americans 
were employed by governments on all levels (including schools).  Another 6 
million were employed at nonprofits, which nowadays are often virtual 
annexes to government.  Of this 24 million in government or nonprofit jobs, 
some 14 million were women."

New claims filed with state agencies for unemployment insurance benefits 
edged down by 4,000 to 328,000, seasonally adjusted, in the week ended Nov. 
9, the Labor Department announced (Daily Labor Report, page D-1; New 
York Times, page D1).

The Conference Board, a provider of U.S. economic data, said it would alter 
the makeup of its index of leading economic indicators in an attempt to 
improve the tool's forecasting powers.  The group will delete two of the 
index's 11 components:  The change in sensitive material prices and the 
change in manufacturers' unfilled orders for durable goods.  Both elements 
have proven to be poor predictors of recessions in recent years.  The group 
will add to the mix a yield curve that measures the interest rate spread 
between the long-term 10-year Treasury note and the short-term federal 
funds rate.  "The new leading index should provide better-defined warnings 
of true turning points in business activity and fewer false signals of 
recession that do not later materialize," said Michael Boldin, the board's 
senior economist and director of business cycle research The board, a 
nonprofit group with 2.700 corporate and other members, took over index 
calculation from the Commerce Department last December (Daily Labor Report, 
page A-10; New York Times, page D4; Wall Street Journal, page B24).

ATT Corp. has decided to give all 127,000 of its employees a paid day off 
for volunteer work over the next year, the largest and most public 
corporate commitment so far in the growing community service movement 
(Washington Post, page C11).

The rapidly developing science and technology sectors have contributed 
greatly to global economic productivity and growth in the past decade, but 
major changes in employment will only be seen over time, according to a new 
report by OECD.  "In all likelihood, the jobs of the future will not be in 
the industries of today," according to OECD's "Science, Technology and 
Industry Outlook -- 1996."  "Rather they will be in new industries, some of 
which will be hybrids of old ones."  The report paints a fairly bleak 
future for nonskilled workers.  It says high-technology industries will 
change the nature of economic activity and how the labor market will adapt 
to the new realities (Daily Labor Report, page A-5).

DuPont will ax 2,800 jobs, adding to a curious surge of post-election 
layoffs Despite a 20 percent increase in layoffs so far this year 
compared with the same period in 1995, bad publicity about downsizings 
earlier this year may have prompted corporations to put off announcing job 
eliminations in the heat of the campaign, the executive vice president of 
Challenger, Gray  Christmas said.  Also, while some corporations have 
announced more than 400,000 layoffs since the beginning of the year, other 
businesses have contributed to a major employment boom by creating nearly a 
million new jobs since the beginning of the year.  Labor Department 
statistics indicate the net result has been mixed, with many of the new 
jobs paying more than the jobs lost, but many laid-off workers facing a pay 
cut when they take new jobs (Washington 

[PEN-L:7447] Re: more science!

1996-11-18 Thread Doug Henwood

Sorry, that last bit got off before I finished my thought.

At 6:52 PM 11/17/96, Mark Weisbrot wrote:

So while it may be true that
Chomsky as an individual has "done more to popularize such critical thinking
in the U.S. than any professor of identity ever has," the same is not true
for the intellectual current that Chomsky represents versus that represented
by pomo-- at least in the last couple of decades. Hundreds of thousands of
college students who will never hear of Chomsky will get their introduction
to at least some aspects of critical thinking through pomo courses and
pomo-trained instructors.

I'm not sure about relative influence (pomo v. Noam) but the influence Mark
is talking about here is one of the reasons I'm obsessed with the issue. If
young people experience "radical" thought in the form I've been attacking,
then that's a reason for dinosaurs like me to be concerned. If, for
example, young minds are told that discourse is a material realm, that
transgressive signification is the equivalent of political action, that
local narratives and situated knowledges are the only kind, that "class" is
largely the concern of old farts, that imperialism can be explained mostly
in terms of racist phallogocentrism, ditto science - then radical thought
is in big trouble.




Doug

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[PEN-L:7448] Chomsky Video

1996-11-18 Thread HANLY

There is a two-video-cassette series on Manufacturing Consent put out in
1992 by the National Film Board of Canada. It is 120 minutes long. The first
cassette is on thought control and the second on activating dissent.
   Cheers, Ken Hanly




[PEN-L:7449] Acc. lefties and the SL Bank Robbery

1996-11-18 Thread R. Anders Schneiderman

Speaking of science, pomo, and all that, I have a question for y'all.  I'm
working on a piece about the SL Bank Robbery in the 80s, and I ran across
an article by Richard Rorty claiming that academics totally missed the boat
on the SL crisis.  Among pomos, I'm pretty sure he's correct; I was pretty
heavily into pomo then, and I never heard of anyone who was writing up a
storm on the issue (which is pretty ironic given that the SL Bank Robbery
was the perfect ground for pomo analysis--too bad it wasn't seen as being
as sexy as, say, studying the inner space of shopping malls).

But I was curious whether Rorty was also right about marxist academics.
Does anyone remember what URPE was up to back then?  Or the folks at
Amherst, or Wisconsin?  I assume there must've been an isolated academic or
two involved in the Financial Democracy Campaign (one of the few attempts
to tackle the SL Bank Robbery), but was there anything more systematic
than that?

Thanks,
Anders Schneiderman
Progressive Communication

P.S.  I missed the boat on the SL crisis because at the time, I was
learning about economics + politics via pomos, and back then, it was
considered uncool to worry too much about the details of how economics
worked; if you were going to worry about details, understanding Lacan was
much more important (as others on this list have demonstrated, pomo doesn't
have to be done that way).





[PEN-L:7454] Re: more science!

1996-11-18 Thread blairs

At 2:57 PM 11/17/96, James Michael Craven wrote:

Gradually
through debate, cross-testing provisional hypotheses and data/data
sources, paradigm/power shifts, old-timers dying etc etc some of the
"constructions of truth" become patently untenable for all but the
totally warped, some become less provisional and more established,
some become the established orthodoxy until dialectically, the
spiral process continues with the established orthodoxy under
challenge, new and old constructions of truth emerging as
provisional, some narratives remaining "local" while other local
narratives become more generalized through linking up of people
living under not-so-common conditions and forms of oppression and so
on

Uh, is this another way of saying that approximations of "truth" are
arrived at through experimentation, struggle, and conversation?

Doug

I will say it again: the whole point (disagreement, dispute, difference) is
not whether there is or is not truth, just as we are not disagreeing about
the existence of physical reality. This is just a red herring. The issue is
what we think we mean by "truth," "reality," and so on. And this is
precisely about how to communicate with people who do not already see the
world the way we do (as Marxists, e.g.) when our opponents and enemies are
more powerful than we. *Some* pomos may be paralyzed by relativity; I know
many pomoish social theorists who are totally involved in radical,
militant, anti-capitalist, anti-racist, anti-sexist political activity,
whose activity is fundamentally shaped (and for the better, as I see it) by
their commitment to something we could generally and loosely call
"post-modernism."

Blair



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[PEN-L:7453] Re: more irreality

1996-11-18 Thread blairs

Another walk on the wild side. Three epigraphs from Judith Butler's Bodies
that Matter:

"Why should our bodies end at the skin, or include at best other beings
encapsulated by skin?" - Donna Haraway

Anyone who has any serious knowledge of martial arts should have no trouble
whatsoever with this sentence. Of course, notice that understanding it
requires a certain (extensive) *practice*, without which it appears to be
nonsense. The practice does not only make sense of the statement, it makes
it "performative."

"If on really thinks about the body as such, there is no possible outline
of the body as such. There are thinking os the systematicity of the body,
there are value codings of the body. The body, as such, cannot be thought,
and I cannot approach it." - Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak

Out of context, I can't parse this grammar. The one time I heard Spivak
speak, I found her unintelligible. (I've never read her work.)

"There is no nature, only the efects of nature: denaturalization or
naturalization." - Jacques Derrida

Out of context this could mean almost anything. (Context is everything,
which should be obvious to Marxists. Notice that context just means, "with
text," i.e. the core of post-modern understanding.)


This book, which I've only begun to sample, has a blurb from Margaret
Whitford of the University of London that claims that it explores "gender
as iteration"; another, from Elizabeth Grosz of Monash U, says that it
explores "the politically transgressive potential of gender
performativity."

What's the problem with these remarks?

Blair




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[PEN-L:7455] Re: more science

1996-11-18 Thread blairs

At 9:19 AM 11/16/96, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I refer to my other comment, that the quotes
cited do not deny material reality, but material reality "independent of...
humanity." This is what the quote actually says, and this last clause, not
the *existence* of material reality, is where all the action is. Your
omission of the all-important phrase is telling.

And Doug responded,

My omission is hardly telling. As I said in my response to Greg Ransom, I
do believe in a material reality independent of humanity. If every last
Homo sapiens were to drop dead after lunch tomorrow, I don't doubt that the
earth would go on without us. If a tree fell in the forest without a human
audience, there would be no one there to hear the sound - and obviously the
terms "hear" and "sound" depend on a human audience - but the tree and the
forest would still exist.

I agree with the last sentence, which does not mean that reality is
independent of humanity. People who are still interested in this subject
(anybody?!) might check out Bruno Latour's LABORATORY LIFE: THE
CONSTRUCTION OF SCIENTIFIC FACTS. Latour worked for a time as a tech at the
Scripps Institute (participant observation). His description of how certain
enzymes in the human body were not "discovered" but
*invented/constructed/produced* by means of particular "inscription
devices" -- i.e. machines that perform certain operations on tissues and
body fluids and parts and such -- is brilliant and compelling. The point is
that these enzymes, which we use to cure "real" diseases and such, did not
exist independently of human science; they were not just "there," in the
body, waiting to be discovered, but only exist because of the particular
scientific machinery (literal and metaphorical) necessary to construct
them; that a different kind of science would not have produced these
enzymes and they wouldn't exist. Explaining this better or reproducing the
compelling quality of his description here would require a *very* long
message, but if you're interested, read the book.

Blair




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[PEN-L:7450] Chomsky

1996-11-18 Thread JDevine

I hate to sound a down note, but...

I truly admire Chomsky's exhaustive scholarship, moral voice, and 
avoidance of unnecessary jargon. But one thing really irritates 
me about his articles in Z magazine, my main source of knowledge 
about his views (why buy his books when one just barely finishes 
his lng articles?). The problem is his constant sarcasm and 
irony. I'm a natural-born ironist (and see nothing wrong with it 
per se) but I struggle mightily to suppress my irony on the 
Internet because it doesn't communicate. That's the problem with 
Chomsky: in order for irony and sarcasm to work as a 
communicative style, one has to be dealing with an audience that 
shares most of one's assumptions and a medium that clearly 
conveys one's intonations. Because of C's incessant use of irony 
(and because his articles are written down), I have a very hard 
time giving copies of his Z magazine articles to the many friends 
of mine who aren't quite left of center. He ends up preaching to 
the converted, which is much too common a problem on the left. I 
wish he would communicate his wealth of knowledge in a way that 
wasn't prone to turning off the non-converted reader.

On the other hand, Chomsky's public speaking is pretty good. 

Don't get me wrong. We need more Chomskys. 

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[PEN-L:7457] re: more science

1996-11-18 Thread blairs

Fucking hell, how many times do I have to say this? Of course, reality is
socially constructed, observation affects results, yadda yadda hey, but to
deny there's a physical reality independent of human observation is to
flirt with psychosis.

Doug

Doug, if I understand the above, you're flirting with psychosis.  :))

Blair




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[PEN-L:7456] Fwd: GLW: Left activist receives death threats (fwd)

1996-11-18 Thread D Shniad

Forwarded message:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kerry Pither)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fwd: GLW: Left activist receives death threats
Date: 18 Nov 1996 13:12:15 GMT
Organization: The Jungle BBS

From: "Joseph E. Morris" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GLW: Left activist receives death threats


Green Left Weekly #255 (11/20/96)
http://www.peg.apc.org/~greenleft/
_
Left activist receives death threats
_

By Sonny Melencio

At 4pm on Tuesday, November 12, Filemon "Popoy" Lagman, chairperson of
Bukluran ng Manggagawang Pilipino (BMP -- Solidarity of Filipino
Workers), was arrested by eight carloads of military operatives of the
Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines.

The arrest happened at the lobby of Sulo Hotel, where Lagman had a
meeting. The military men, in plain clothes and carrying rifles,
pointed their guns at Lagman and whisked him away to the waiting cars
in full view of stunned onlookers.

After a search by his family and colleagues in the labour movement,
Lagman was eventually traced to Camp Aguinaldo, where he is still
being detained. At 9.00 that night, trade union leaders from BMP and
other federations staged a picket and rally in front of Camp Aguinaldo
to protest against Lagman's arrest. Both the union leaders and the
media were barred from entering the camp.

Labour leaders in Manila called a press conference on Wednesday
denouncing the arrest. Earlier that day, BMP organised a march of 500
people and a rally in front of the presidential palace (Malacanang) to
denounce the arrest.

 APEC protests

Lagman's arrest came on the heels of mounting labour protests against
the soon-to-be-held Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in
Manila. The BMP, together with the National Confederation of Labour
(NCL), and the Kapatiran ng mga Pangulo ng Unyon sa Pilipinas (KPUP --
Fraternity of Union Presidents in the Philippines) held a press
conference on November 6 announcing Philippine labour's opposition to
the APEC summit and its agenda.

They represent the biggest trade union formation in the country today.
The BMP has around 200 unions with a total membership of 130,000 in
Metro Manila alone. The NCL has more than 400 unions, while KPUP has
around 800 union affiliates. The three organisations have called a
general strike on November 25, the date of the official APEC summit,
unless Lagman is released.

The three are hosting a four-day counter-conference of trade unionists
from across the country on November 20-23. They are also organising a
protest caravan of workers which will snake its way from Manila to
Subic, the site of the official APEC summit.

The counter-conference, entitled "SLAM APEC" or Solidarity of Labour
Movement Against APEC, is expected to be participated in by 2000 local
union presidents representing roughly two-thirds of all unions in the
country. It will feature a discussion of various labour issues and
problems related to the neo-liberal agenda of the Philippine
government and the "globalisation" projects being engineered by APEC,
GATT, IMF-World Bank and other related institutions.

The highlight of the conference is the drafting of a labour agenda
which will become the basis of campaigns and actions of the
participating unions.

Since a few days before Lagman's arrest, protest activities against
APEC have been steadily building up all over the country. The labour
districts of Metro Manila are pasted over by posters with the slogans
"SLAM EVIL, SLAM APEC" designed after the popular Phantom movie
currently showing in the city. There have been daily protest actions,
with themes ranging from the massive demolition of urban poor houses
(as part of the "clean-up drive" of the government for the APEC
summit) to the unemployment and privatisation program of the
government -- all related to the APEC summit and its agenda.

Just recently, the BMP organised a rally in front of the Malaysian
embassy following the dispersal of the East Timor Conference in Kuala
Lumpur. The BMP leaders declared that they would welcome Indonesian
dictator Suharto and Malaysian strongman Mahathir with a big protest
rally during the APEC summit. Aside from the BMP, a host of other
groups are organising conferences and protest activities. One is the
NGO conference against APEC and another is the recently concluded
Bayan/KMU's Anti-Imperialist Globalisation Conference.

 Appeal for solidarity

Following the arrest of Lagman, a BMP Action Alert statement was
circulated. The statement reads in part:

"The arrest of Popoy Lagman is a foolish attempt on the part of the
Philippine government to pre-empt labour resistance against the APEC
summit. It is as stupid as the recent position of the Philippine
government to bar Nobel Peace Prize Awardee Jose Ramos Horta from
visiting the country as this would be an `embarrassment' for the
Indonesian dictator Suharto who is going to grace the summit. 

[PEN-L:7458] conference announcement (update)

1996-11-18 Thread blairs

Hi folks:

I thought I sent this to the list already but I never got it from PEN-L, so
here it is -- again? FYI.

Blair


**
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[PEN-L:7459] goodbye for now

1996-11-18 Thread blairs

Hello, all:

I'm going to be incommunicado for a while, so please don't take my
temporary absence as sign of retreat :) or disgust. On the contrary, I
shall miss the ideas and the information.

Hope to see some of you at the RM conference, if not back here before then.

Regards,

Blair




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[PEN-L:7460] Re: Nader Voters' Support for Prop 209

1996-11-18 Thread Max B. Sawicky

Nathan Newman wrote:
 
  M. Sawicky wrote:
  A class appeal is the best (only?) way to overcome backward views
  on race. Otherwise you are reduced to moral preachments.  You can
  try saying that race divides people to their disadvantage, but that
  presumes some larger concept that subsumes race:  class.
 
 This is an impoverished definition of class that equates it simply with
 economic inequality between groups.  But what is crucial about class is
 its specific relation to exploitation around the axis of the means of
 production between owners of capital and workers. . . .

This is mere rhetoric.
What is crucial about class to real people is that a working-class
status renders them incapable of realizing their justifiable
expectations about living a full life made possible by fair
compensation for their labors and by appropriate collective action
to supply what they need which is not available in markets.
I'm not even talking about inequality, which most people don't
care about, unfortunately.

We're looking at private ownership of most capital for the
foreseeable future, so we might as well devote ourselves to
making the best of the situation.

 Racism is economic
 exploitation organized around racial differentiation WITHIN the working
 class where white workers collaborate with capital to assure their
 privileged caste position.

It's not obvious that white workers are 'collaborating' with
capital to maintain a caste advantage these days, except insofar
as they fail to support affirmative action and anti-discrimination
measures.  If I see you drowning and I fail to help you, I may be
criticized for my apathy or cowardice, but I'm not exactly holding
your head under water, though the result is the same.  This makes
a political difference because your formulation implies the levelling
of accusations against workers.  In labor and housing markets the active
collaboration of white workers in discrimination is real but limited.
Education is different because whites express racist sentiments
in their political choices.  Racism today is more a question of what
elites and those in positions of authority are doing (employers,
mortgage
bankers, etc.).

 There is no inconsistency between a class appeal to white workers that
 fights for a larger slice of the wage/profit split while also supporting a
 racial caste system that reserves the best high-paying jobs to while male
 workers.  In fact, if achieved, such a class appeal combined with racism
 promises the best result for such white male workers.

This was truer in years past than today.  These days the last thing
Capital
wants is to forego a slice of profits for the sake of "buying off" white
workers.  They're screwing everybody.

 In fact, this is exactly how white male workers have traditionally
 organized in the United States, often successfully.  The American
 Federation of Labor was formed by nearly all-white craft unions who
 withdrew from the declining Knights of Labor to institutionalize the
 privileged position of their members.  In the West, anti-Chinese
 organizing was a key factor in supporting the growth of unions in the
 West.  George Frederickson argues in his book WHITE SUPREMACY that through
 this anti-asian struggle, "unionism and working-class politics achieved
 more legitimacy and influence in some of the industrial regions of the Far
 West than in most other sections of the country."

You are skipping over about sixty years of labor history here by
characterizing the entire 20th century in pre-1935 terms.
The early incarnations of feminism and abolitionism were
pretty gamey by today's standards as well.

 Which brings us to Buchanan:
   One, an anti-corporate message is not enough, since that easily harbors a
   "Buchanan" racist vote.  Progressives have to link a clear anti-racism
   message to its anti-corporate message.
 
  Bull.  That presumes that Buchanan was really anti-corporate in any
  substantive way.  He wasn't/isn't.
 
 Ignoring the honesty of his convictions (and given his families honest
 worship of Mussolini I'll give him the benefit of the doubt), Buchanan's
 words are as anti-corporate and class-based as a large chunk of union
 rhetoric over the years in the US. Listen to a Buchanan speech denouncing
 meatpacking companies who use immigrants to drive down wages in order to
 increase profits. Listen to Buchanan denounce affirmative action as a plot
 by elites to lower the living standards of white male workers. In all
 those speeches, you hear the echoes of over a century of Jim Crow union
 organizing in the United States.  He may side with corporations against
 many other workers, but then there is little difference there since many
 of the AFL craft unions collaborated with employers in breaking
 alternative industrial unions (notably the IWW) that tried to organize all
 workers.

You're confusing demagogy with substantive anti-corporate rhetoric
and policies.  Immigrants, minorities, and scabs have always been
used 

[PEN-L:7461] Re: more science!

1996-11-18 Thread Mark Weisbrot



A theoretical problem: if there is no truth, only provisional 
constructions
of truth, and if there is no master narrative, but only a polyphony of
local narratives and situated knowledges, than how can you criticize the
official (celebratory) version of history as "false"?

Doug

I have no trouble criticizing theories for their effects, without needing
to argue that they are false. Look at NC theory. I can argue compellingly
(my previously brainwashed students all or mostly think so) that NC theory
contributes to a stream of inequities and miseries of all sorts and is
generally a "bad," without any need to say that it is wrong or false or
inaccurate.

Blair



I think it's a huge mistake to give up making truth claims about the world. 
In the example you cite, the student (or NC economist) can simply respond by 
saying, ok, maybe the theory does justify various inequities, etc., but it 
is true. In which case you are stuck. Because if it is true, then the 
neoclassical policy prescriptions are the best we can do. Many arguments 
about social change in general, especially in the classroom, quickly boil 
down to differences about the validity of underlying assumptions or 
theories-- these days, more often than neoclassical economics it is  
sociobiology ("human nature") at the core of conservative arguments. It's 
not enough to say that you don't like the implications of their underlying 
theory-- if you can't challenge the veracity of it, you will find yourself 
in a very weak position against anyone who can carry out a logical argument. 
This is one of the big drawbacks of of pomo epistemology that I referred to 
earlier.

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[PEN-L:7462] Re: more science!

1996-11-18 Thread Doug Henwood

At 3:02 PM 11/18/96, Mark Weisbrot wrote:

I have no trouble criticizing theories for their effects, without needing
to argue that they are false. Look at NC theory. I can argue compellingly
(my previously brainwashed students all or mostly think so) that NC theory
contributes to a stream of inequities and miseries of all sorts and is
generally a "bad," without any need to say that it is wrong or false or
inaccurate.

Blair



I think it's a huge mistake to give up making truth claims about the world.

Yeah, I agree, which I'm sure is no surprise. A lot of orthodox economists
say there's no such thing as involuntary unemployment. This is bullshit, to
use a technical term. It's also a case where an elaborate theory has been
used to disguise, rather than reveal, underlying truth. Why can't we be so
blunt as to point that out?

In our (quite understandable) urgency to run away from vulgar determinism,
we seem to have discarded any notion that ideas (like neoclassical
economics) serve material interests. I think that's highly unfortunate. But
that's probably no surprise either.

Doug

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[PEN-L:7463] Fwd: Zapatistas

1996-11-18 Thread Cotter1225

I thought someone here might be able to help this person.

Cindy Cotter
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Hi,

I'm looking for information about the Zapatistas movement in Chiapas,
Mexico and particularly on their online activity. Does anyone know if they
have an e-mail address in the jungle?

Talya Tibbon
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[PEN-L:7464] Re: Fwd: Zapatistas

1996-11-18 Thread Fikret Ceyhun

I thought someone here might be able to help this person.

Cindy Cotter
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Hi,

I'm looking for information about the Zapatistas movement in Chiapas,
Mexico and particularly on their online activity. Does anyone know if they
have an e-mail address in the jungle?

Talya Tibbon
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[PEN-L:7465] Fwd: re: more science

1996-11-18 Thread MScoleman

Well, I wasn't going to jump in on this one, but --

Having a very slim knowledge of anthropology, there are some African tribes
that believe that the only reality is fantasy.  That magic is reality and
physical reality is a manifestation of magic.  Poisonally, I think there may
be some truth in this.  After all, how much magic and how much reality exists
in economic theory as taught in most universities?  I also think we make
physical reality by our beliefs.  If we believe that pollution will not take
over the world, we will continue to pollute.  If we believe women are frail,
women continue not to defend themselves in the face of assault, and get
killed by ex (lovers, spouses, etc.) on a regular basis -- there's something
very physical about getting killed. (Not to confuse my own reality with that
-- no one would ever think of describing me as frail.)

maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In a message dated 96-11-16 13:49:44 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Henwood)
writes:

Fucking hell, how many times do I have to say this? Of course, reality is
socially constructed, observation affects results, yadda yadda hey, but to
deny there's a physical reality independent of human observation is to
flirt with psychosis.

Doug

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At 8:24 AM 11/16/96, GREG RANSOM wrote:

Would Doug refuse to publish Bohr on the causal dependence
of quantum events upon the observer, or Berkeley on the absurdity
of Newton's material interpretation of the calculus, or Bell on
action at a distance, or Pauli on the exclusion principle,
or Heisenberg on the uncertainty principle -- all folks who fractured
elements of our old picture of 'materialism', loved by stone-age
physicalists and positivists who view Newton as the beginning and end
of science -- properly interpreted through the picture of 'science'
handed down to us from Aristotle through the British and French meta-
physicians, and 'updated' by French and German positivists.

Fucking hell, how many times do I have to say this? Of course, reality is
socially constructed, observation affects results, yadda yadda hey, but to
deny there's a physical reality independent of human observation is to
flirt with psychosis.

Doug

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[PEN-L:7466] Re: A little humor

1996-11-18 Thread MScoleman

What did the elephant say to the naked man?

"How do you eat with that thing?"

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[PEN-L:7467] Fwd: IAFFE at Taxco

1996-11-18 Thread MScoleman

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[PEN-L:7468] re: more science

1996-11-18 Thread Rosser Jr, John Barkley

 Here is part of the problem with this whole 
discussion.  There really is a profound mystery about the 
nature of reality that none of the contestants in this 
discussion can resolve.  On the one hand, at the sub-atomic 
particle level, we have this ephemeral quantum world where 
things really are very strange and apparently even 
"subjectivized" in some deep way.  
 On the other, there is 
some level of aggregation above which this strangeness 
disappears and we have a "classical" reality, the sort of 
thing that keeps the "who, what, where, when, and why?" 
crowd in business, although the "why" part can get a bit 
mushy.  Indeed, that is where we get into the problem of 
consciousness again, whose relationship with "reality" is 
exactly what we do not (and maybe ultimately cannot) 
understand.
 Neither in physics nor in philosophy, much less 
in economics, has there been any resolution of this 
conflict between the quantum nature of subatomic reality 
and the more or less classical nature of more highly 
aggregated, non-conscious reality.
Barkley Rosser
On Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:24:25 -0800 (PST) GREG RANSOM 
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 Would Doug refuse to publish Bohr on the causal dependence
 of quantum events upon the observer, or Berkeley on the absurdity
 of Newton's material interpretation of the calculus, or Bell on
 action at a distance, or Pauli on the exclusion principle, 
 or Heisenberg on the uncertainty principle -- all folks who fractured
 elements of our old picture of 'materialism', loved by stone-age
 physicalists and positivists who view Newton as the beginning and end
 of science -- properly interpreted through the picture of 'science'
 handed down to us from Aristotle through the British and French meta-
 physicians, and 'updated' by French and German positivists.
 
 
 Seperating the good 'science' and sound explanation and solid logic
 from erroneous 'philosophical' or 'metaphysical' elements and pictures is
 not at all a cut and dried matter, and is ongoing in all of the sciences,
 even today, believe it or not.
 
 
 Greg Ransom
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 UC-Riverside
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[PEN-L:7469] Re: more science!

1996-11-18 Thread Ajit Sinha

Mark Weisbrot said: 
I can't tell you how many times I have heard pomo 
scholars assert such things as, e.g., we don't know any more about the 
physical universe than we did 5000 years ago. Needless to say, this 
undermines their credibility, and the credibility of the academic left in 
general, on more directly relevant political issues.
__
But on what *ground* you could say *more*, Mark? That is the question. How
do you respond to Levi-Strauss' thesis in the 'Savage Mind'? 

Any way, Michael Sprinker wrote a good and long paper a few years ago in New
Left Review on Roy Bhasker--a critique of Bhasker from Althusserian
perspective. People who are interested in Bhasker may wanna take a look at
it. Cheers, ajit sinha  




[PEN-L:7471] Re: more science!

1996-11-18 Thread Ajit Sinha

At 07:19 AM 11/18/96 -0800, you (Doug Henwood) wrote:

I'm not sure about relative influence (pomo v. Noam) but the influence Mark
is talking about here is one of the reasons I'm obsessed with the issue. If
young people experience "radical" thought in the form I've been attacking,
then that's a reason for dinosaurs like me to be concerned. If, for
example, young minds are told that discourse is a material realm, that
transgressive signification is the equivalent of political action, that
local narratives and situated knowledges are the only kind, that "class" is
largely the concern of old farts, that imperialism can be explained mostly
in terms of racist phallogocentrism, ditto science - then radical thought
is in big trouble.
__
Doug, your kind of thinking as been in power for a few hundered years now.
And we all know what it has done to the world. In other mails you have been
talking about baning certain ideas--not letting them in in journals, denying
people livelihood for working within post-modernist framework etc. It would
be an interesting excersise to deconstruct your posting and relate it to the
kind of ideas you are fighting for. Is it the case that your arrogance,
intolerance, and your desire to control is a reflection of the kind of
knowledge structure you are supporting? Cheers, ajit sinha