Scargill resigns

2002-08-01 Thread Chris Burford

Arthur Scargill is due to resign today after 20 years as the leader of the 
(British) National Union of Mine Workers.

Despite great courage he was beaten by Mrs Thatcher's attack on the miners. 
The Union, which was said to have 250,000 members in 1981, is now said to 
have only 5,000.

In 1996 Scargill set up the Socialist Labour Party in opposition to New 
Labour. The latter won a landslide victory at the 1997 election.

Scargill attracted some criticism for allegedly using autocratic methods in 
the SLP. Eventually it became one of a number of participants in the 
Socialist Alliance which contests parliamentary and local elections, 
getting a few percentage of the vote.

Chris Burford

London

BBC Report

Mr Scargill was a rousing orator Arthur Scargill retires as president of 
the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) on Thursday after more than 20 
years in the job.

The left-winger will retain the title of honorary president and will 
receive £1,000 per month for the next nine years for acting as consultant 
to the union.

The decision to pay Mr Scargill the money has reportedly left some miners 
complaining that they had not been properly consulted.

The prominence of Mr Scargill has faded as the coal industry suffered 
closure after closure.

It was his claims of a coal board hit list of collieries to be closed that 
fuelled the 1984 miners strike, when he went head-to-head with the then 
prime minister Margaret Thatcher.

Mr Scargill ultimately had to call the strike off, but his predictions over 
the future of the coal industry were later proved to have been accurate.

Former Labour MP Tony Benn paid tribute to Mr Scargill whom he said was the 
most vilified man he had ever met.

When you look back on it Arthur will be seen as a man of principle who 
stuck by his members, he told BBC TV's Breakfast.

The man was vilified and all he did was to defend the miners, the mining 
communities and so on.

The quiet end to Mr Scargill's career is in stark contrast to the 
prominence he held as the leader of the UK's biggest union.

As he packs up his desk on his last day he does so with the knowledge that 
just a few thousand people remain employed in the coal industry.

The union claims to have 10,000 members still.

There will be no farewell party to mark Mr Scargill's departure.

When the union's executive met earlier this month they voted their thanks 
to Mr Scargill and presented him with two presents - one was believed to be 
a wrapped photo.

Ian Lavery - a 39-year-old miner from the North East who is taking on the 
new role of NUM chairman - said Mr Scargill deserved tremendous credit.

He is a remarkable man and has been a remarkable trade union leader, he said.

Anyone else who has been through the mill as he has would not have survived.

He has seen off Mrs Thatcher and John Major and deserves tremendous credit 
for what he has tried to achieve for miners over the past 50 years.

Unlike Mr Scargill, Mr Lavery is a member of the Labour Party who is 
prepared to meet government ministers and pit owners to discuss the 
industry's future.

He is the chairman of the Wansbeck district council's cabinet and his aims 
in his new job are to sustain the existing coal industry and get 
compensation payments speeded up.

Investment failure?

We need a commitment from the government about the size of the coal 
industry, which is not a lame duck industry by any means.

We produce the cheapest coal in Europe, yet we are allowing private 
companies to close mines because they are not prepared to invest.

Mr Scargill created his own political party - Socialist Labour - in 1996 
but it has failed to make any electoral in-roads.

He ran against former cabinet minister Peter Mandelson in the 2001 election 
but failed to unseat the New Labour moderniser.




Funding conflict in Labour Government

2002-08-01 Thread Chris Burford

This issue was also carried on page 4 on the Financial Times on Friday 
which may have been based on the Treasury sources that Michael White 
mentions in his Guardian article below.

It is an interesting conflict about the mechanics of market socialism. The 
government has just published performance tables for the success of 
hundreds of National Health Trusts, with an implication that this will 
affect their entitlement to further state funding. But the crunch issue 
below is whether these Trusts can have access to capital markets. While 
they may still not be allowed to make profit themselves, they would have to 
on behalf of the capitalists from whom they are borrowing. But Gordon 
Brown's worry is that it would strip him of his ability to massage the 
state sector debt to keep it down and to appear ultra prudent in front of 
the financial markets.

Any supporters of market socialism might usefully consider this as an exam 
question thrown up by practice to explain how the state could allow local 
initiative in meeting economic goals in the delivery of services, while 
distributing access to development capital in such a way as not to cause 
inflation.

And how to stop a process of uneven development whereby the more successful 
trusts would grow in economic power and be able to take over less 
successful trusts in order to use finance more efficiently.

Chris Burford

London


Ministers at odds over funding of hospitals

As Milburn meets foreign surgeons here to operate on hundreds of patients, 
the Treasury insists on maintaining control of health spending

Michael White, political editor Wednesday July 31, 2002 The Guardian

Gordon Brown and Alan Milburn are deadlocked over the financial status of 
the NHS's new foundation hospitals as the chancellor resists the health 
secretary's plans to allow them to raise funds on the open markets.

Mr Milburn believes the £40bn NHS plan to raise health care standards to 
European levels can only work if huge sums of new investment are matched by 
Whitehall's willingness to loosen its grip on decision making and let 
hospital trusts run themselves.

But the chancellor's traditional role as guardian of the national 
chequebook - coupled with his personal obsession with detailed performance 
in the public sector - has made him reluctant to give even the NHS's best 
hospitals such a fundamental freedom.

Behind the Treasury's concern lies the fear that over-ambitious hospitals 
could get into financial trouble, leaving the government to bail them out. 
Such unplanned additions to the public sector borrowing requirement would 
undermine Mr Brown's vaunted commitment to fiscal discipline.

The Milburn camp fears that Tony Blair's commitment to deliver public 
sector reform cannot work without real authority being devolved to line 
managers and the wider community - to set their own priorities and find 
their own solutions.

There is an important difference of view, health officials confirmed 
yesterday. There are huge implications in the foundation hospitals being 
freed from the secretary of state's powers of direction.

Mr Brown and Mr Milburn worked closely on the Wanless report which 
confirmed the case for funding health care from general taxation as being 
both fair and efficient.

Agreed on retaining the financial near-monopoly of NHS funds, they disagree 
about about how far to go to break up the monopoly of health care 
provision, allowing private hospitals and even foreign medical teams to do 
key jobs - free to the patient.

NHS unions share Mr Brown's fears of creeping privatisation. But Mr Blair 
and his No 10 policymakers side with Mr Milburn.

Though leaks on the row have appeared - apparently Treasury inspired - the 
Treasury yesterday declined to comment.

The dispute now extends to Treasury concerns about the possibility that 
foundation hospitals will succumb to the temptation to raise extra funds by 
treating more and more foreign and private patients.

The Health Department calls such suggestions drivel since all NHS 
hospitals have always had the right to treat private patients.

The idea that they are going to be quasi-private hospitals is ridiculous, 
said a health source who complained that the Treasury view reflected the 
wider fallacy that the choice has to be between mainstream public or 
private organisations.

Mr Milburn is already tightening the the rules by telling hospitals to 
devote more of their pay beds for ordinary patients as he battles to cut 
waiting lists.

To reduce his exposure to borrowing Mr Brown is happy to see the private 
sector take over the risks of building hospitals and schools, even though 
critics say he would have to pick up the bill if things went wrong.




the new EU

2002-08-01 Thread Chris Burford

At 31/07/02 11:56 +, Se c/o Natasha Potter wrote:


To top this off, the loss of national control over interest rates will 
also have an impact - particularly given the EU limitations on Debt and 
Governmental Spending. Effectively, Governments will be forced to choose 
between increasing tax or cutting-back on state sector involvement. We can 
all guess which they will choose given that virtually every Government is 
Thatcherite in its economic ideology.

Yes there will be that tendency but I guess it will not be as undiluted. 
Assuming Stoiber wins in September in Germany he will certainly go in this 
direction but how far? Social/christian democratic assumptions run deep in 
Germany. Note that Chirac decided to craft his government on centrist 
lines. We won't yet know if he is about to reveal this as all an illusion, 
but what is in it for him to do so?



The EU will act as a servant for finance capital to tear back the 
remaining state sector gains from the 40s-60s eras in all EU states.

But also the EU is a creation of European deal making between its finance 
and industrial capitalists. They are eager to gain competitive advantage 
against the US


  The task for progressive EU groups is to unite around these issues. 
 Indeed, I think that the EU will offer us a great opportunity to link up 
 across Europe in fighting these assaults - because they are being 
 coordinated on a pan-EZ scale. The 'liberalisation of Energy/Water' will 
 effect all EU states around the same time so I could envisage us calling 
 pan-EZ protests on similar days even. There are some large socialist 
 parties left out there willing to fight on this and I think that this 
 fight will further radicalise them.


That will be positive, but also a reason why the resultant of forces may 
not be a totally Thatcherite EU.



First, the EU is more likely to become a strong arm of the US than 
anything else.


No. On theoretical grounds you should expect imperialism to lead to 
conflict even if it does not lead to war. Europe is hungry to have some 
military power that can give it even slight independence from the USA

The WEU is effectively controlled by NATO.

  Hence subtleties like the Europeans taking over completely responsibility 
for policing the Balkans.






Even PfP is a NATO construct bringing in Russia.

But - on condition that the anti-US hostility is not overt (an important 
condition of this serious game, the EU will make its own links with Russia, 
including those that are not dependent on the USA)


Second, you need to concretise your balancing act. What elements of the EU 
would you support in order to counter-balance the US - the Euro/the 
European Rapid Reaction Force??


See my earlier brief strategic response to your letter: I am not advocating 
a strategy adequately summed up by saying that the international 
proletariat should support the EU. The international proletariat should 
unite and take advantage of contradictions between the ruling classes.



  What's not correct is for progressive movements to identify with their 
 local imperialism because it's slightly better in terms of working 
 conditions, minimum pay or in terms of only exploiting countries by 80% 
 instead of 90%.


Agreed. Within each country or state the working people and other 
progressive forces should continue to struggle against their own capitalists.




in the whole of Europe by take-overs. Nevertheles the social democratic
trends in Europe are far deeper and stronger than in the USA, and the term
smoldering ruins is a great distortion of what is probably going to
happen. Even five years from now, there will still be provisions in Europe
that progressive people in the USA would welcome now.

And we should, therefore, be thankful for small mercies...?


Who is we in these sorts of sentences?

The people of Argentina should not be grateful, but it may help them if the 
EU for whatever short term imperialist reasons of its own, offers somewhat 
better conditions than an IMF under the control of the US treasury.



A world government can be used much more clearly to place on the agenda
issues like control of global pollution and phased development. People can
then promote progressive policies by all appropriate political methods,
including street demonstrations. That must weaken the power of finance
capital rather than strengthen it, and must accelerate radical change
whether it comes through reform or revolution.

In current conditions, such world Government is a pipedream given US 
hegemony.

Especially if the left persists for revolutionary reasons to insist that it 
will be a pipedream for ever and that nothing can be done to oppose US 
hegemony.

I have not caught where Se  is writing from but while I would expect 
progressive people in Europe to oppose the imperialist policies of European 
imperialism I would expect progressive people in the US to fight US 
hegemonism in conjuctions with all possible allies including other 

Zimmerwald

2002-08-01 Thread Chris Burford

At 31/07/02 08:50 -0400, Louis Proyect quoted from his article on 
Zimmerwald in response to my comment:

Chris Burford:
Most relevantly on this particular debae, I think Lenin was wrong at 
Zimmerwald, and I appreciate Louis Proyect highlighting this issue some 
years ago and arguing that Lenin was correct.

snip re 1914

The capitulation to war-fever threw social democracy into a crisis. 
Antiwar socialists held a number of meetings in Switzerland in order to 
develop a strategy. Zimmerwald, a small rustic town, became the center of 
the antiwar opposition.

The antiwar opposition split into two camps. One camp was centrist. It 
opposed the war but advanced a strategy that was not revolutionary. It 
sought to mobilize public pressure in the various warring countries in 
order to force an early peace. The leader of this grouping was Robert 
Grimm, a Swiss socialist.

Vladimir Lenin led the Zimmerwald left. It advocated a defeatist policy 
of revolution and civil war inside each warring country. Other socialists, 
including Trotsky, considered Lenin extreme at first, but events conspired 
to make Lenin look reasonable. Germany pushed into France and the armies 
of the two nations fought along the Meuse River over a 6-month period in 
1916, while more than a million soldiers died. On July 1, the British and 
French launched a counteroffensive on the Somme River in Belgium. In their 
initial assault some 60,000 soldiers perished in a single day, a sum 
equivalent to all of the US deaths during the 8-year Vietnam war.

While the blood-letting continued apace, Lenin sat down and wrote 
Imperialism the Final Stage of Capitalism. This work is not mainly an 
economic dissertation. It is rather a foundation for the political line 
defended by the Zimmerwald left. Lenin zeroed in on the bankruptcy of 
social democratic reformism, the existence of an objectively revolutionary 
situation in the warring nations, the relationship of the World War to the 
crisis of imperialism, the link between struggles for national 
self-determination and socialism, and, finally, the need for a Third 
International.

full: http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/fascism_and_war/zimmerwald.htm


Obviously these are very big and important questions. I am sure neither 
Louis Proyect nor I mention them because we think we are just about to 
convert the other.

But if it helps to indicate the lines of difference rather than to be 
polemical, (as I have to tidy things up for a while) the reasons for my 
statement are

It is almost ahistorical to say that Lenin was wrong in that the war 
happened, Zimmerwald happened, Lenin happened and the Russian Revolution 
happened.

Nevertheless I think what Lenin quotes of Robert Grimm, the Swiss Marxist, 
sounds to me a serious position. Now maybe Lenin did not want to demolish 
it with the ferocity he directed towards Kautsky for tactical reasons, but 
also it may be that Grimm was not wrong. And in ignoring those arguments, 
Lenin was.

Broadly I think the Second and a Half International, with people like the 
Swiss and the Danes, typically in the smaller powers of Europe, provided a 
principled basis for marxists winning a hearing as soon as the consequences 
of the imperialist war started to bite.

  IMO once the Third International realised that revolution was not going 
to break out all over Europe after the first world war it and its successor 
parties evolved an international policy that prioritised peace in a way 
that could be communicated to the masses of the population, yes with some 
difficulty, but it did not require marxists to take a stand that would 
automatically deprive them of a hearing by getting them put in prison.

It is also an exercise in counterfactuals. Had Lenin not been so single 
minded it is hard to believe that the Bolshevik Revolution would have 
followed the February Revolution. I am persuaded that one of the major 
factors compelling Lenin was to get Russia out of the war. But this set 
history on a path which confirmed the split between the Bolsheviks and the 
Mensheviks and set the young embattled Soviet State in a direction which 
IMO was not all caused by one person, Stalin.

Struggling for peace is a long term major goal of internationalism, but it 
is a process, and needs to be about uniting, temporarily, with people who, 
in Lenin's terms, are opportunists, if that helps to get a hearing from the 
mass of working people.

Chris Burford

London







RE: convergence?

2002-08-01 Thread Davies, Daniel

[comments?}
 
Sala-i-Martin is a good lad; he's a Catalonian Nationalist and thus familiar
to me from my short Welsh Nash period as a writer of tracts on the economic
viability of small European nations.  But the obvious point is that this is
a piece of doublespeak from the Economist; the trick is to refer to South
Korea and Indonesia as Globalisers, and then not to say a word about the
progress of the neoliberal agenda in China and India.  In actual fact,
Sala-i-Martin's piece could be read as saying that, after a couple of
decades, the only reason that the neoliberal policy mix hasn't had
absolutely horrendous effects is that the two largest developing countries
had the good sense to reject it.
 
as the world spins ...
 
dd


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Non-profit versus profit Health Care

2002-08-01 Thread Hari Kumar

Subject: PRIVATISATION IN HEALTH CARE:_CANADA
ORIGINAL NOTE:
Among others, I think the folks at the Canadian Centre for Policy
Alternatives have been producing stuff on this,  but I didn't find a
specific title in my quick search at
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/bc/index.html. The BC government has
set  up an agency to promote public-private partnerships in health
delivery, e.g. they plan to open a new PPP hospital in Abbotsford, even
though the accounting study commissioned projects savings of  less
than 3% (and this does not include lots of costs, e.g., for government
planning).
Bill
AN ADDITION:
1) I had forgotten this earlier enquiry re the Swedish system. The
notion that introduction of fees would save dollars overall - has been
now discredited in Sweden, with the recognition there that in effect
what happened was simply a shifting away from cost-effective
preventative therapies, which leads to an impact later of serious (
expensive) health impacts. To those interested in critiquing the Swedish
experience - it is worth also looking at the Australian system. The
Ozzies went the British route of privatising increasing chunks of health
care developed by the UK Social democrats (Labour Party) -  although it
is too early to tell stats on health outcomes - there appears to be
increasing public complaints.
However, the following article is very interesting indeed:
2) The Canucks recently published an important meta-analaysis - led by
members of the Medical Reform Group (Ontario) - in the CMAJ: CMAJ 2002
May 28;166(11):1399-406:
ABSTRACT:
   A systematic review and metaanalysis of studies
   comparing mortality rates of private for-profit
and
   private not-for-profit hospitals.
   Devereaux PJ, Choi PT, Lacchetti C, Weaver B,
Schunemann HJ,
   Haines T, Lavis JN, Grant BJ, Haslam DR, Bhandari
M, Sullivan T,
   Cook DJ, Walter SD, Meade M, Khan H, Bhatnagar N,
Guyatt GH.
   Department of Medicine, McMaster University,
Hamilton, Ont.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   BACKGROUND: Canadians are engaged in an intense
debate about the
   relative merits of private for-profit versus
private not-for-profit health care
   delivery. To inform this debate, we undertook a
systematic review and
   meta-analysis of studies comparing the mortality
rates of private for-profit
   hospitals and those of private not-for-profit
hospitals. METHODS: We
   identified studies through an electronic search
of 11 bibliographical
   databases, our own files, consultation with
experts, reference lists,
   PubMed and SciSearch. We masked the study results
before determining
   study eligibility. Our eligibility criteria
included observational studies or
   randomized controlled trials that compared
private for-profit and private
   not-for-profit hospitals. We excluded studies
that evaluated mortality rates
   in hospitals with a particular profit status that
subsequently converted to
   the other profit status. For each study, we
calculated a relative risk of
   mortality for private for-profit hospitals
relative to private not-for-profit
   hospitals and pooled the studies of adult
populations that included
   adjustment for potential confounders (e.g.,
teaching status, severity of
   illness) using a random effects model. RESULTS:
Fifteen observational
   studies, involving more than 26 000 hospitals and
38 million patients,
   fulfilled the eligibility criteria. In the
studies of adult populations, with
   adjustment for potential confounders, private
for-profit hospitals were
   associated with an increased risk of death
(relative risk [RR] 1.020, 95%
   confidence interval [CI] 1.003-1.038; p = 0.02).
The one perinatal study
   with adjustment for potential confounders also
showed an increased risk
   of death in private for-profit hospitals (RR
1.095, 95% CI 1.050-1.141; p
0.0001). INTERPRETATION: Our meta-analysis
suggests that private
   for-profit ownership of hospitals, in comparison
with private not-for-profit
   ownership, results in a higher risk of death for
patients.
   PMID: 12054406 [PubMed - in process] 

3) Currently in the Canadian system, the Third health care reform
enquiry is being conducted by Roy Romanov - an ex-NDP (Social democrat).
It appears that out he is likely to report on whether - in essence -
more 

More re Indian Mystics a la Shiva Gail Omvedt:re PEN-L digest 224

2002-08-01 Thread Hari Kumar

1) By some strange coincidence, recently, I had occasion to cite a lengthy critique of 
Indian eco-feminists on another list, to which no response was noted. But I see that 
Shiva has surfaced here. I will post that critique – done I should say to Ulhas – by 
Marxist-Leninists at:
PURE GREEN, AND NO RED POLITICS: ENVIRONMENT,  INDUSTRIALISATION AND THE PEASANT IN 
THE UNDER-DEVELOPED WORLD In Alliance 16, 1995: at: 
http://www22.brinkster.com/harikumar/AllianceIssues/ALLIANCE16_ECOLOGY.htm

2) Most of the critiques that I see were proffered on PEN of Shiva point out the 
Luddite nature of her beliefs, and the false ethos of a mystical ‘blame the technology 
and not the class relations; in this regard the similarity to GANDHISM  the ‘back to 
the chakra’ loom movement – is evident.  She embraces Mohandas K. Gandhi :

Like Gandhi challenged the processes of colonisation linked with the first industrial 
revolution with the spinning wheel, peasants and Third World Groups challenge the 
recolonisation associated with the biotechnology revolution with their indigenous 
seeds.  Shiva 1, p.16.
Mahatma Gandhi said, there is enough in the world for everyone's need, but not for 
some people's greed.  Shiva 2, p.6.

Why must India become industrial in the Western sense?' Gandhi has asked. 'What is 
good for one nation situated in one condition is not necessarily good for another 
differently situated. One man's food is often another man's poison.. Mechanisation is 
good when hands are too few or the work to be accomplished. It is an evil where there 
are more hands than required for the work as is the case in India. Shiva 1,p 239.

The self-proclaimed core of the Indian eco-feminist movement rejects the philosphical 
basis of what has come to be termed the scientific revolution. Shiva and other 
eco-feminists (Carolyn Merchant, Marie Mies etc) all object to Baconian science. These 
objections begins with Bacon's terminology (Nature - she; Science - He):

 In Tempores Partus Masculus or the Masculine Birth of Time..  Bacon promised to 
create 'a blessed race of heroes and supermen' who would dominate both nature and 
society.. Modern science was a consciously gendered patriarchal activity. Shiva 2. 
p.16-17.
The rise of mechanical philosophy with the emergence of the scientific revolution was 
based on the destruction of concepts of self-regenerative self­organising nature which 
sustained all life. For Bacon.. nature was no longer Mother Nature, but a female 
nature, conquered by an aggressive masculine mind. Shiva V; The Seed and the Earth: 
Biotechnology and the colonisation of Regeneration. In : Close to Home Women 
reconnect ecology health and Development Worldwide. Ed. By Vandana Shiva. 
Philadelphia, New Society Publ, 1994.
Shiva counterposes to this a total reactionary myticism  Shiva joyfully enters Indian 
cosmology.

From the point of view Indian cosmology.. the world is produced and renewed by the 
dialectical play of creation and destruction, cohesion and disintegration. The tension 
 between the opposites from which motion and movement arises is depicted as the first 
appearance of dynamic energy (Shakti). All existence arises from this primordial 
energy which is the substance of everything pervading everything. The manifestation of 
their power is energy is called Nature (Prakriti). Nature, both animate and inanimate 
is thus an expression of Shakti, the feminine and creative principle of the cosmos; in 
conjunction with the masculine principle (Purusha), Prakriti creates the world. Nature 
as Prakriti is inherently active a powerful productive force in the dialectic of the 
creation renewal and sustenance of all life. In Kulacudamim Nigama Prakriti says:
'There is none but Myself, Who is the Mother to create.'  Shiva 2. p.38.”

(For many other relevant quotes from Shiva see the text at above web-site; some of the 
extraordinary mysticism of Shiva is counter-posed to the views of the ‘Dead White 
Male’ so often castigated by feminists – Engels).

3) I believe that there are at least two other aspects that bear commentary:
3(I) One is the number of utopian movements (by which I will loosely refer to 
‘impossibilists’, anti-realist, wish-like progressive movements – in India  elsewhere 
– that Vandana Shivaism is related to. In India, the long overdue,  recently renewed 
movement of the Untouchables has in turn, re-spawned a rural peasant socialism. This 
latter is linked to the name of Gail Omvedt.
This 'petty-bourgeois' socialism, is in general linked to the anti-Luddite views of 
the Shivaites. Cumulatively, a general view is taken that the poor peasant in reality 
as driven off the lands by modern Indian agri-business – can be fought by what amounts 
to enlightened reformists/captalists. As such she seriously proposed the UN Brundlandt 
Commission as a means of effecting ‘sustainable developemnt”:
This sustainable development approach is seen in the Brundtland Commission, the South 
Commission 

Back on the EU

2002-08-01 Thread Natasha Potter

Yes there will be that tendency [loss of monetary freedoms forcing 
capitalist austerity] but I guess it will not be as undiluted.
Assuming Stoiber wins in September in Germany he will certainly go in this 
direction but how far? Social/christian democratic assumptions run deep in 
Germany. Note that Chirac decided to craft his government on centrist lines. 
We won't yet know if he is about to reveal this as all an illusion, but what 
is in it for him to do so?

I think the key thing is that it would be the same right now if the PS/PCF 
were in charge in France. Well not much different anyway. I would be to the 
left of these organisations. We would get caught up in fighting in the 
middle of the pitch, whereas we need to leap to the left. In any case, 
losing that control is a bad thing - with the onset of recession even a 
left-wing government would be forced to make some quite nasty choices given 
the rules from the ECB.

But also the EU is a creation of European deal making between its finance 
and industrial capitalists. They are eager to gain competitive advantage 
against the US.

Yes, and how will they do this? By exploiting workers more...I'm not 
concerned with the position which should be adopted in colonial/third world 
countries.

That will be positive [uniting left across EU to fight neo-liberalism], but 
also a reason why the resultant of forces may not be a totally Thatcherite 
EU.

In my experience with the EU (and it's not inconsiderable) the possibility 
for meaningful reform is limited. A coming together of the left would need 
to fundamentally shake the whole structure. I have indicated that I agree 
with you at some point in this argument - I am not sure exactly where but 
would certainly support a significantly reformed and democratic EU - that's 
not anywhere likely just yet though.

No. On theoretical grounds you should expect imperialism to lead to
conflict even if it does not lead to war. Europe is hungry to have some
military power that can give it even slight independence from the USA.

I disagree. Lenin was writing years ago - you can't just quote ITHSC and be 
confident that your right. There are certainly conflicting edges but in the 
main the EU is forcing the neo-liberal agenda to compete with the US. They 
will likely out-do each other in 'liberalising and privatising'. As for the 
military power aspect, I can't foresee the circumstances where Blair sends 
his troops in against the US. The only reason that the PfP was established 
rather than extending the WEU was to bring in special cases like Russia, 
Austria and Ireland.

The WEU is effectively controlled by NATO.

Hence subtleties like the Europeans taking over completely responsibility 
for policing the Balkans.

Exactly, the US doesn't want it's troops tied down all around the place when 
they've jobs to do elsewhere. Besides, there's not much oil there! They've 
got the British 'mopping up' in Afghanistan too. Does this mean that you 
think the British are seriously challenging their influence there? Whatever 
small wrankles may arise, it's not likely that they will develop into full 
antagonisms.

See my earlier brief strategic response to your letter: I am not advocating 
a strategy adequately summed up by saying that the international 
proletariat should support the EU. The international proletariat should 
unite and take advantage of contradictions between the ruling classes.

No-one will disagree with these vagueries. It's where it gets us in reality 
that I'm thinking about.

And we should, therefore, be thankful for small mercies [i.e. the limited 
benefits of the EU Vs the US]

Who is we in these sorts of sentences? The people of Argentina should not 
be grateful, but it may help them if the EU for whatever short term 
imperialist reasons of its own, offers somewhat better conditions than an 
IMF under the control of the US treasury.

We, the Europeans in the EU. We must speak for who we are not who we would 
like to be. The Argentinians may prefer to deal with the EU (although it's 
not clear why EZ capitalism would be better than US capitalism) but let's 
not get in behind our imperialists because of their marginal benefits.

In current conditions, such world Government is a pipedream given US
hegemony.

Especially if the left persists for revolutionary reasons to insist that it 
will be a pipedream for ever and that nothing can be done to oppose US 
hegemony.

Do you really think that a world Government is realisable within the next 20 
years??

The US has been forced to tack on the Human Rights Court.

All they've been forced to do is have the postphonement reconsidered after 
one year. It may be extended thereafter if the US is still central to UN 
peace missions.

about Kautsky's vision these are very big issues and not adequately covered 
by mentioning the headlines of old polemics. There are powerful tendencies 
in imperialism to contention up to and including war. (It is not impossible 
that EU 

Re: Credit market

2002-08-01 Thread christian11



 [anyone know what they mean in the last
sentence, reduced supply  of what? wider spreads with between corp bonds
and treasuries?  I just read today that spreads had tightened.  I assume this
announcement means the 30-yr will
be back pretty soon.] 

Turning to the current state of financial markets, the advisory group said
that conditions have worsened noticeably in recent months, with wider
spreads and reduced supply, and that a higher level of volatility is probably
a permanent feature of the credit markets.
 

I would guess they are talking about spreads on interest rate swaps, the
derivative markets for which are crucial to banks liquidity. Treasury Dept.
and big banks have begun to worry about the reduction in market activity for
them, the WSJ said the other day.

Christian




Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Doug Henwood

Michael Perelman wrote:

Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere?

Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere?

Doug




Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect


Michael Perelman wrote:

Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere?

Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere?

Doug

I know this is an onerous burden to place on pen-l'ers, but you should 
search for ways to impart some kind of concrete information whenever you 
post. In much of the discussion here, we get conclusions without the 
supporting facts. This has been true of the Vandana Shiva thread as well as 
the liberalism/expertise thread. Unfortunately, in the latter case the 
rules of participation would almost exclude facts, etc. because the context 
is preeminently philosophical. When the discussion revolves around the 
individual versus society, etc., you are entering the vaporous realm of 
political philosophy. I would as soon argue against liberalism as I would 
against freedom or reason. On the other hand, when it comes to agriculture, 
I can demonstrate how the Green Revolution undermines the long-term goal of 
food production through the use of relevant facts on soil fertility, etc.




liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Rob Schaap



Doug Henwood wrote:
 
 Michael Perelman wrote:
 
 Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere?
 
 Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere?

It's the journey, dudes, not the destination.  

Right now, I think liberalism'd be a lovely idea.  I'm sure we'd've got
there years ago if the plutocrats hadn't hit on the idea of pinching the
term for their preferred option - but then
imperialist-mercantilist-socialism-for-the-rich-capitalism-for-the-poor-socially-reactionary-polity-dissolving-militarist-corporatism
is a tad unwieldy, I guess.

Don't some recent thought-pieces coming outa the states sound a bit like
people are starting to wonder where the 'democratic' bit of 'democratic
capitalism' has gone (a Benjamin Barber the other day, and, if memory
serves, even Tom Friedman a little while back)?  Not very good articles
(neither identifies a tension between the forces and the relations, for
instance, but then this ain't Fantasy Island), but symptomatic of
anything out there in popular sentiment, d'ya think?

And ain't Latin America looking a treat just now?  This is the first
time in twenty years I haven't really badly wanted to go there (mebbe
that's just coz I'm not in Africa).  And how long before we find out
what sorta smelly junk bonds those big investment banks are hiding under
the ledger books?  And is there a single Dow member trading anywhere
near what 'value' used to mean yet?  How goes the current account?  How
travels that latter-day saviour, the consoomer?

Plenty to thread aimlessly about in the months to come, methinks.  

Cheers,
Rob.




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Michael Perelman

Lou expressed my thought better than I did.  I would only add that in
these debates nobody seems to learn anything from anybody else -- at
least, you can pretty well predict what the few participants in such
debates will write.

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 10:25:32AM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:

 In much of the discussion here, we get conclusions without the 
 supporting facts. This has been true of the Vandana Shiva thread as well as 
 the liberalism/expertise thread. Unfortunately, in the latter case the 
 rules of participation would almost exclude facts, etc. because the context 
 is preeminently philosophical. When the discussion revolves around the 
 individual versus society, etc., you are entering the vaporous realm of 
 political philosophy.

-- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Scargill resigns

2002-08-01 Thread Ben Day

Although, on the up side - or at least what sounds like an upside from the 
other side of the puddle - there was quite an upset in the Amicus election 
(Sir Ken Jackson, with the boot). Can you tell us anything about this Derek 
Simpson fellah, Chris? The press have been just describing him as a 
leftist, and are more fixated on the ouster of a notable Blair wonk, but 
I haven't been able to get a sense of his politics beyond this.

-Ben

At 01:47 AM 8/1/2002 +0100, Chris Burford wrote:
Arthur Scargill is due to resign today after 20 years as the leader of the 
(British) National Union of Mine Workers.

Despite great courage he was beaten by Mrs Thatcher's attack on the 
miners. The Union, which was said to have 250,000 members in 1981, is now 
said to have only 5,000.

In 1996 Scargill set up the Socialist Labour Party in opposition to New 
Labour. The latter won a landslide victory at the 1997 election.

Scargill attracted some criticism for allegedly using autocratic methods 
in the SLP. Eventually it became one of a number of participants in the 
Socialist Alliance which contests parliamentary and local elections, 
getting a few percentage of the vote.

Chris Burford

London




Radio Henwood

2002-08-01 Thread Doug Henwood

Today on my radio show (WBAI, 99.5 FM New York and 
http://www.wbai.org, 5-6 PM eastern US time):

* Ruy Teixeira of The Century Fund, talking about public opinion on 
the corporate scandals

* Michael Hardt, co-author with Antonio Negri of Empire, talking 
about the reaction to the book, any changes to their thinking since 
its publication (e.g., is W's unilateralism a challenge to their 
thesis)

Doug




Bush-Connected Company Set Up Offshore Subsidiary

2002-08-01 Thread Ben Day


Published on Thursday, August 1, 2002 in the Baltimore Sun

Bush-Connected Company Set Up Offshore Subsidiary
Congress continues work to limit such maneuvers for dodging U.S. taxes
by David L. Greene

WASHINGTON - The White House acknowledged yesterday that while President 
Bush was serving on the board of Harken Energy Corp. in 1989, the company 
created an offshore subsidiary, which could have helped it avoid paying 
U.S. taxes.
The revelation comes as Congress is engaged in debate over how to crack 
down on companies that move offices abroad to avoid corporate taxes or to 
skirt U.S. regulations.
What Harken did was legal and is common practice for international 
corporations, analysts say. And it is not clear whether Bush was involved 
in the decision to create the overseas subsidiary.
Still, Democrats were quick to argue that the news could further weaken 
the president's credibility as he responds to a series of corporate 
scandals that have shaken investors.
The revelation about Harken comes after other occasions on which the 
president acknowledged that, while he was an executive in Texas, he or his 
company engaged in some of the practices that lawmakers are trying to 
eliminate as they seek to curb corporate abuses.
Bush said yesterday, We ought to look at people who are trying to avoid 
U.S. taxes as a problem.
He added, I think American companies ought to pay taxes here and be good 
citizens.
Asked about Harken's subsidiary, Bush said only, I think there was an 
issue over an arrangement with Bahrain, a drilling venture there, which I 
opposed, as you may recall, when I was a director of the company.
The White House confirmed that Harken created a subsidiary in 1989 in the 
Cayman Islands, which has served as a tax shelter for some U.S. companies. 
The subsidiary was set up to help manage a contract Harken had signed with 
Bahrain to drill off the coast of that Arab nation.
Lawmakers in both parties have expressed support for various proposals to 
limit the ability of companies to shift headquarters abroad to evade taxes.
Their chief concern is a series of cases in which corporations - including 
Tyco International and Fruit of the Loom - have moved their nominal 
headquarters to Bermuda, the Cayman Islands or other overseas locales. 
Though most of their employees stay in the United States, the companies 
can avoid U.S. taxes by reincorporating in a tax haven.
The Harken case differs somewhat, analysts say, because the company was 
not moving its headquarters; rather, it was opening only a subsidiary 
abroad. But analysts said the intent was essentially the same - to avoid 
U.S. taxes on foreign income or to sidestep U.S. labor or litigation rules.
Neither Harken nor Bush has been found to have done anything illegal. But 
Bush has been put in an awkward position as he has tried to portray 
himself as a forceful opponent of questionable corporate practices.
More than a decade ago, for example, he or Harken took part in some of the 
actions targeted by the corporate reform bill he signed into law Tuesday. 
While he was a director at Harken, the company was accused of overstating 
profits and was forced by the Securities and Exchange Commission to revise 
its reported profits.
Bush himself was investigated by the SEC about his sale of Harken stock in 
1990, two months before Harken reported a bigger-than-expected loss and 
its share price tumbled. The SEC chose to take no action against Bush.
Bush also accepted loans from his own company, a step that was severely 
restricted in the law signed this week.
Asked about Harken's offshore subsidiary, Senate Majority Leader Tom 
Daschle, a South Dakota Democrat, said, If it is true, I think it gets 
harder and harder to take his position on corporate accountability seriously.
If there is any question about this Cayman matter, Daschle said, I 
think that it's important for them to ensure that people know exactly what 
happened.
Bush's spokesman, Ari Fleischer, pointed out that the Harken subsidiary 
did not make any money, because the company found no oil off Bahrain.
Fleischer added, If they had produced any oil in Bahrain and sold it in 
the United States, it would have, of course, been taxable in the United 
States.
But Jon Kyle Cartwright, an energy analyst at Raymond James, noted that it 
would be extremely unusual to produce oil in Bahrain and bring it to the 
U.S. to sell it.
The purpose of an oil company's creation of an offshore subsidiary, 
Cartwright said, is to avoid U.S. taxes and U.S. regulations when the 
company sells to other nations.
He said it is very common for oil companies and other large firms to 
establish foreign subsidiaries, especially to compete in international 
markets.
Copyright © 2002, The Baltimore Sun




Re: RE: convergence?

2002-08-01 Thread F G




From: Davies, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [PEN-L:28988] RE: convergence?
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:40:41 +0100

[comments?}

Sala-i-Martin is a good lad; he's a Catalonian Nationalist and thus 
familiar
to me from my short Welsh Nash period as a writer of tracts on the economic
viability of small European nations.  But the obvious point is that this is
a piece of doublespeak from the Economist; the trick is to refer to South
Korea and Indonesia as Globalisers, and then not to say a word about the
progress of the neoliberal agenda in China and India.  In actual fact,
Sala-i-Martin's piece could be read as saying that, after a couple of
decades, the only reason that the neoliberal policy mix hasn't had
absolutely horrendous effects is that the two largest developing countries
had the good sense to reject it.

as the world spins ...

dd

I was thinking the same re:neoliberalism and China and India.  Also Korea 
and Indonesia are indeed worse off (not more unequal) after Korea 
globalised its capital flows helping set off a crisis that Indonesia, 
AFAIK has yet to recover from.  Just a minor omission, I suppose.  Also, 
El Salvador is a rapid globaliser by any measure (tariffs were rapidly 
slashed over 6 years, several free trade agreements signed, rapid internal 
liberalization, etc.) and the results include more inequality, 500-600 
people leaving a day for the U.S, stagnant economy, egregiously low tax 
collection (and worsening due to the FTAs), colossal trade defecit, 
strangulation of the political system by compradors, and more.  
Nevertheless, U.S. govt spokesmen continues to refer to it as a model of 
economic reform in various public statements.  Go figure.


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Re: Radio Henwood

2002-08-01 Thread Rob Schaap

G'day Doug,

 * Ruy Teixeira of The Century Fund, talking about public opinion on
 the corporate scandals

Ask him if it's true Cisco aren't about to sign off on their statements,
and that some of ther head-suits might be opting for more time with the
families.  Dark rumours are a material force, or at least so the NASDAQ
reckons just now.

Cheers,
Rob.




: liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Justin Schwartz

Well pardon me for being a political philosopher. Personally, I learn a lot 
about possible misunderstanduings, objections, responses, at least from a 
certain viewpoint. I also find internet discussion groups a poor venue for 
fact intensive empirical research, but what do I know. I do wish Michael, 
that you would stop announcing that you find my contributions uninteresting 
and trying to stop lively discussions in which I participate. Who asked you? 
If you are not interested, don't participate. i don't horn into threads that 
bore me and shout, this is borting, will you all please shut up. Why do you? 
Is it something about me that sets you off?

jks


From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:28998] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 08:14:48 -0700

Lou expressed my thought better than I did.  I would only add that in
these debates nobody seems to learn anything from anybody else -- at
least, you can pretty well predict what the few participants in such
debates will write.

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 10:25:32AM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:

  In much of the discussion here, we get conclusions without the
  supporting facts. This has been true of the Vandana Shiva thread as well 
as
  the liberalism/expertise thread. Unfortunately, in the latter case the
  rules of participation would almost exclude facts, etc. because the 
context
  is preeminently philosophical. When the discussion revolves around the
  individual versus society, etc., you are entering the vaporous realm of
  political philosophy.

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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re: liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Tom Walker

Rob Schaap wrote:

 Doug Henwood wrote:
  
  Michael Perelman wrote:
  
  Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere?
 
 Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere?

 It's the journey, dudes, not the destination.


How about, Is this discussion becoming or going?


Tom Walker
604 254 0470




Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Gil Skillman

Michael writes:

  I would only add that in
these debates nobody seems to learn anything from anybody else -- at
least, you can pretty well predict what the few participants in such
debates will write.

To be sure, most postings in most PEN-L debates appear as predictable 
rehearsals of existing positions.  But for what it's worth, that doesn't 
mean that no learning is going on, despite the occasionally frustrating 
lack of anything that looks like progress or  meetings of minds. Among the 
things I've gotten from past PEN-L debates in which I've participated 
are:  finding out the range of possible arguments against a given position 
(and possible responses); references to relevant literature (particularly 
useful); and offline correspondences that often *do* end up going 
somewhere.  On the first point, for those who enter given debates seriously 
and in good faith, positions and counterpositions can be developed much 
more rapidly than via the traditional route of published exchanges in 
journals. I think that's been a real contribution of this medium, despite 
its drawbacks.

Gil 




Re: Zimmerwald/4

2002-08-01 Thread Waistline2

Jack A. Smith is a propaganda genius. Here is an article with enough historical data to clarify the doctrine and art of the class struggle. 

WHO'S GOING TO STOP BUSH?

By Jack A. Smith

Since Sept. 11, the U.S. left has been warning that the Bush
administration was exploiting the tragedy to pursue a right-wing agenda
at home, including restraints on civil liberties, and a policy of war 
and empire-building abroad.

Now, as the nation prepares for next month's commemoration of the first
anniversary of the attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center, the
full implications of Washington's war on terrorism are emerging. 

As the pieces begin to complete the puzzle, it appears the left may have
underestimated the extent to which the Bush administration would be able
to gravitate to the far right. It may likewise have misjudged how far
to the center and center-right the Democratic Party was drifting during
its dozen or so years as captive to the Democratic Leadership Council. 
This has rendered the Democrats virtually neutralized in the face of
George Bush's most dangerously reactionary domestic, foreign and
military maneuvers.

What follows is an analysis of Bush administration initiatives, first in
domestic affairs, then in foreign and military matters. In combination,
these proposals and programs constitute a serious challenge to democracy
in America and to peace in the world.

Domestically, the Bush administration is using the war on terrorism as a
pretext to construct a national security state with considerably
increased police and military powers accompanying sharp abrogation's in
democratic liberties. President Bush's principal means of obtaining
public support -- which remains relatively high -- has been to greatly
exaggerate the threat of terrorism, applying a veneer of red, white and
blue hyperpatriotism to all his programs, and to lie about his motives
and goals. Unwilling to appear one whit less patriotic and God-fearing
than the Commander-in-Chief, the opposition party has been supportive of
several ultra-conservative administration initiatives, such as the USA
Patriot Act, though it has been sharply critical recently on the economy
and corporate scandals in hopes of gaining congressional seats in
November. Here are a few of the Bush administration's less savory
stated goals or programs:

(1) For nearly 125 years, the U.S. has safeguarded the supremacy of
civilian rule with the Posse Comitatus Act, which prohibits the armed
forces from a role in domestic civilian law enforcement and in other
areas of civil life. In recent months, however, the White House has
been orchestrating a review of this tradition in the name of insuring
"wartime" domestic security against "the terrorist enemy." Lawyers in
the Justice and Defense Departments have been instructed to analyze the
pros and cons of the 1878 law in view of today's security
requirements. On July 17, the New York Times reported that Air Force
Gen. Ralph Eberhart, designated chief of the newly formed Northern
Command, "said he would favor changes in existing law to give greater
domestic powers to the military to protect the country against terrorist
strikes." The general, who was obviously under White House instructions
to make this statement, was directly quoted as saying, "We should always
be reviewing things like Posse Comitatus and other laws if we think it
ties our hands in protecting the American people." Of course, the
formation of the Northern Command itself is an aspect of the
militarization of American society.

(2) The Justice Department recently decided to remove certain
restraints imposed on the FBI in the mid-'70s by Congress in an effort
to halt decades of unbridled spying on left and progressive
organizations and individuals during the agency's COINTELPRO period. 
Likewise, Congress just permitted the termination of similar restraints
against the CIA, imposed as recently as 1995. For example, CIA station
chiefs were no longer allowed to hire murders, crooks and others of
similar disrepute as informants and agents unless they received
case-by-case approval from headquarters. This "guideline" was
officially rescinded July 18.

(3) The House on July 26 approved -- and the Senate is expected to do
so with some changes in September -- the creation of the Department of
Homeland Security, which transfers seven different agencies into one
super department. Included are the Coast Guard, Customs Service, Border
Patrol, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), Secret Service,
Transportation Security Administration and the border inspection
division of the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. The
well-funded Homeland Security Dept., in combination with powers already
(or soon to be) granted to the Justice Department, the Northern Command,
the possibility of a weakened Posse Comitatus Act, and enhanced security
and police authority at the state and local level, portends the
establishment of a domestic policing apparatus unparalleled 

RE: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28995] Re: Re: Re: : liberalism





the best any thread on pen-l (and lbo-talk?) seems to be able to do is to clarify differences. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Henwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:17 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PEN-L:28995] Re: Re: Re: : liberalism
 
 
 Michael Perelman wrote:
 
 Is this discussion or the elitism thread going anywhere?
 
 Not really, but does any thread ever go anywhere?
 
 Doug
 





RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28996] Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism





Louis writes:
 I know this is an onerous burden to place on pen-l'ers, but 
 you should search for ways to impart some kind of concrete information 
 whenever you post. 


That's good, but I like a weaker standard, since not all discussions are about issues where there is new empirical information that can be presented. I don't think we want to limit the scope of the discussion the way that's implied by Louis' criterion. 

My weaker standard is that whenever an abstraction is applied some effort should be made to present a concrete example or exemplar to illustrate or explain the meaning of that abstraction. Rather than simply talking about democracy, for example, it's good to keep in mind what that means in practice in a specific place and time, if only to understand the contrast between the theoretical concept and the reality. Maybe we can talk about _hypothetical_ examples, but still that's better than simply throwing abstract words around such as democracy without an effort to concretize them. 

That is, we should try to avoid rhetorical and totally abstract assertions, such as freedom is good. This is useless, especially since one can define both terms so that the statement is always true. 

There's a stronger standard, which I doubt that we can live up to but is still good to keep in mind: on some theoretical difference, what are the implications for political practice or economic policy. (The latter is not something I see as very useful, but the best policy is often a useful thing to understand precisely because the government doesn't pursue it.) There are all sorts of issues -- such as that chestnut the class nature of the old USSR -- where certain ranges of opinion imply no differences in terms of practice. Within one of those ranges, we can avoid needless argument by realizing that potential practical unity. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine 





RE: Re: RE: convergence?

2002-08-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:29002] Re: RE: convergence?





Also, with these time series studies, we should adjust any numbers for the disappearance of non-market sources of livelihood, a process that is part and parcel of marketization. This hits those with the smallest incomes most. 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine


Daniel writes:
 Sala-i-Martin is a good lad; he's a Catalonian Nationalist and thus familiar to me from my short Welsh Nash period as a writer of tracts on the economic viability of small European nations. But the obvious point is that this is a piece of doublespeak from the Economist; the trick is to refer to South Korea and Indonesia as globalisers, and then not to say a word about the progress of the neoliberal agenda in China and India. In actual fact, Sala-i-Martin's piece could be read as saying that, after a couple of decades, the only reason that the neoliberal policy mix hasn't had absolutely horrendous effects is that the two largest developing countries had the good sense to reject it.

FG writes: I was thinking the same re:neoliberalism and China and India. Also Korea and Indonesia are indeed worse off (not more unequal) after Korea globalised its capital flows helping set off a crisis that Indonesia, AFAIK has yet to recover from. Just a minor omission, I suppose. Also, El Salvador is a rapid globaliser by any measure (tariffs were rapidly slashed over 6 years, several free trade agreements signed, rapid internal liberalization, etc.) and the results include more inequality, 500-600 people leaving a day for the U.S, stagnant economy, egregiously low tax collection (and worsening due to the FTAs), colossal trade defecit, strangulation of the political system by compradors, and more. Nevertheless, U.S. govt spokesmen continues to refer to it as a model of economic reform in various public statements. Go figure.







Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Carrol Cox

I would disagree. It seems to me that maillists are primarily
conversational, and attempts to make them replace printed journals are
mostly wishful thinking. I my only rarely either read or write posts
much longer than 4 or 5 screens. Moreover, issues that really do depend
on large amounts of empirical data simply do not belong on e-mail lists.
The information given is _always_ highly selective, and hence rarely
contributes to the argument. In the few cases when it appears that
information offered is really crucial to the argument, it is necessary
to consider more sources in any case before trusting the data. An
endless rain of information (_highly selective and hard to judge_) on
most ecological questions is simply pointless -- all of it is almost
always obviously true-- and also obviously irrelevant to anything until
one can place it in a political context.

I think someone should do a dissertation on empirical arguments on
maillists. Such a study would show, I believe, that in nearly all cases
_everyone_ involved was (mostly unintentionally) cheating. That is, the
evidence offered always fits into a strictly linear line of thought.
Let's see if I can explain this.

Someone argues: A causes B. Then gives endless evidence to support that
proposition. But that evidence turns out to be irrelevant, because while
it is perfectly true that A causes B and B is a desirable end, it is
also possibly or probably true, that A ALSO causes C, D, E,  F. That F
in turn causes B, but only under circustances where it also causes G,
which is destructive of B.

And this means that anyone who continues to heap up evidence for the
proposition that A causes B becomes obscurantist, however good his/her
intentions may be.

Moreover, there is usually at least two persons in the discussion who
suffer seriously from the fetishism of facts -- i.e., who believe that
facts explain themselves (and of course the explanation the facts give
of themselves is always the explanation that the fetishist has actually
assumed from the beginning). Such fetishists will see any attempt to
point out other factors involved, or any attempt to challenge the
obvious point of the facts, is deliberately changing the subject. And
when there are two of them with opposing understandings of the issue,
they will go on endlessly adding fact to fact with not the slightest
awareness that it is not facts but clarification of the multiple issues
involved that needs to be pursued.

And maillists _may_ clarify issues (both for the writers and for the
large number of lurkers on every list). Clarification is _not_ of course
a conclusion -- why should it be? And moreover, sometimes it is in the
late stages of a discussion that seems merely to go round and round that
questions that have been implicit or blurred become explicit.

The best any mail list can do is to clarify issues, open up new
questions, and provide a forum for trying out ideas. Serious polemics or
information belong in printed journals.

I learn quite a bit on the run from pen-l because I have no formal
training in econ. How important that is I do not know.

Carrol

Michael Perelman wrote:
 
 Lou expressed my thought better than I did.  I would only add that in
 these debates nobody seems to learn anything from anybody else -- at
 least, you can pretty well predict what the few participants in such
 debates will write.
 
 On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 10:25:32AM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
 
  In much of the discussion here, we get conclusions without the
  supporting facts. This has been true of the Vandana Shiva thread as well as
  the liberalism/expertise thread. Unfortunately, in the latter case the
  rules of participation would almost exclude facts, etc. because the context
  is preeminently philosophical. When the discussion revolves around the
  individual versus society, etc., you are entering the vaporous realm of
  political philosophy.
 
 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929
 
 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Is this what Stagflation looks like?

2002-08-01 Thread pms

Thursday August 1, 12:14 pm Eastern Time
Reuters Business Report
Manufacturing Growth Nearly Halts in July
By Ross Finley

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. manufacturing growth nearly ground to a halt in
July, a report said on Thursday, showing the economy has cooled
significantly from earlier this year and raising concerns that the recovery
could be in jeopardy.
ADVERTISEMENT



The Institute for Supply Management said its monthly manufacturing index
fell in July to its lowest level since January, down to 50.5 from 56.2 in
June. While that was the sixth straight month of growth, the index showed
manufacturing was barely expanding, at a level just above 50.

The fall was much sharper than Wall Street expected and was a major slowdown
from June, which saw the fastest growth in more than two years.
Manufacturing makes up about one-sixth of the economy.

There's no question that the slowdown in manufacturing will keep the
economic recovery at a slow pace, said Christopher Low, chief economist at
FTN Financial. This is not a pretty report.

The weak report raised concerns that the Federal Reserve, already expected
to leave interest rates pat until next year, may need to ease credit costs
further to support the flagging economy. That gave a lift to interest-rate
sensitive Treasury securities while stocks extended earlier losses.

A punishing stock market sell-off in July had caused businesses to slam on
the brakes after a boost of confidence about growth prospects earlier in the
year, said Norbert Ore, head of the ISM committee that compiles its monthly
manufacturing survey, in a teleconference with reporters.

Battered down by earnings worries and corporate accounting scandals, stocks
fell through July to strike their lowest level in five years before
rebounding slightly. That weighed on manufacturers' confidence as they
watched stocks fall.

People got very conservative, Ore said.

PRODUCTION, NEW ORDERS DOWN

After a powerful run-off of inventories left over from boom times, factories
rapidly boosted production earlier this year to meet rising demand. But as
businesses became more conservative about the outlook for demand, they
scaled back production.

The ISM Production Index fell off sharply to 55.7 in July from 61.4 in June.

And in a sign that production is likely to fall further in future months as
factories curtail inventory-building, the New Orders Index, which measures
future demand for goods, fell more than 10 points in July to 50.4 from 60.8.

With fewer goods coming off assembly lines and orders drying up, factories
also accelerated layoffs during the month, extending a trend seen since
mid-2000 that has seen about 1.8 million factory workers lose their jobs.

The ISM Employment Index fell in July to 45.0 from 49.7 in June, its 22nd
straight month below 50.

While economists cautioned that July is typically a slow month for
factories, it still raised concerns that a government monthly report on
employment across the nation, due on Friday, may be weaker than expected.

I'm waiting for confirmation from the labor markets as to whether the
business sector is turning more cautious, said Alan Levenson, chief
economist at T. Rowe Price Associates in Baltimore.

PRICES CREEPING HIGHER

Prices paid by manufacturers rose for the fifth straight month to their
highest level in two years, boosting ISM's Prices Index to 68.3 in July from
65.5 in June.

ISM's Ore said that while he was not worried about the recent price rises,
they could be a problem if they persist.

It would be a greater concern to me in future months if we didn't see some
moderation in prices, Ore told reporters.

Recent rises in prices have stemmed in part from U.S. tariffs on foreign
steel and rising export demand thanks to a roughly 10 percent slide in the
dollar against major world currencies this year.

But ISM's new export orders index fell in July to 52.2 from a two-year high
of 54.5 in June.

Tempe, Arizona-based ISM bases its manufacturing index on data provided
monthly by purchasing executives at over 350 industrial companies and
reflects changes in the current month compared with the previous month.





RE: The last of liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:28981] The last of liberalism





This is my last post on this thread -- and my last of the day. Work calls. (I have also cut the message down to one part, the one in which Justin makes a false accusation. I am sorry that it's so abstract.)

I wrote: 
I don't identify democracy with majority rule. You forgot minority
rights. Unlike classical liberalism (Locke, _et al_) I don't see rights as
being natural. Rather, I know that people value them and will choose to
allow them, if given a democratic chance.


Justin accuses:You normally do forget minority rights, such as when I mention the tyranny of the majority, you start accusing me of being antidemocratic. If people will value and choose rights, they don't need to be legally protected. I am not so optimistic as you. That's why I support constitutional democracy, which insulates rights from majoritarian prejudices.

1. It should be mentioned that minority property rights claiming the means of production gives the minority (the capitalists) power over the majority. I think that this tyranny of the minority is much worse than any tyranny of the majority. 

2. Unlike most advocates of socialism from above (Stalinists, social democrats, etc.) I think that people can learn from their mistakes and educate themselves in other ways, so that democracy is a _process_. Most of the examples of the tyranny of the majority that elitist theorists point to are examples where democracy was temporary and new, where people didn't get a chance to figure out how to run things (expecially since they were being attacked from the outside, by those defending privilege); these folks also forget all of the abuses associated with minority rule.[*] Most elitist theorists, however, don't need examples, since they're simply defending their own minority rights and privileges. 

Frankly, I think that the left would get much further if we explicitly embraced democratic sovereignty rather than saying that a new stratum of experts would do a better job. 

I also would like to know what Justin's alternative to the principle of democratic sovereignty. Is it the Platonic principle that the enlightened Guardians should rule?

3. I don't know where Justin gets the false impression that I'm against constitutional democracy (a phrase that is new to this thread and was never discussed, even by implication) from. It seems to me that people who are organizing things collectively _want_ a constitution (rules of the game). For example, when I've been on juries, the _first_ thing the jurors did was to decide on (informal) rules. 

To repeat myself, there's no _a priori_ conflict between majority rule and minority rights, since almost all people want some insulation from the domination of the majority. This formulation (with not only rule but rights) implies the need for rules of the game, i.e., a constitution. So democracy _implies_ a constitution of some sort. 

Perhaps Justin is confusing constitutional democracy with the actually-existing constitutional republic in the US, but I can't read his mind. 

4. I must admit that democracy is often not a pretty process (though it's hard to find examples in the actually-existing US except on the micro-level). But democracy is the only legitimate way to deal with political issues (i.e., with collective decision-making). Dictatorship, rule by minorities, etc. will not do, while the idea that automatic market-like processes will replace democracy is silly. (People might decide that markets would be appropriate to making some decisions, but the basic principle of democratic sovereignty should apply.)

[*] One example: the theorists of the tyranny of the majority often point to the Great Terror during the 1789 French Revolution. But they forget that the minority (capitalist) ruled government imposed many more deaths in the suppression of the Paris Commune. 

JD





RE: liberalism

2002-08-01 Thread Ian Murray

the best any thread on pen-l (and lbo-talk?) seems to be able to do is to clarify
differences.

Jim Devine



'perceptual fault lines' run through apparently stable communities that appear to have
agreed on basic institutions and structures and on general governing rules. Consent 
comes
apart in battles of description. Consent comes apart over whose stories to tell. [Kim
Scheppele in Another Look at the Problem of Rent Seeking by Steven Medema, JEI Vol 
xxv #
4]


History will justify anything. It teaches precisely nothing, for it contains 
everything
and furnishes examples of everything...Nothing was more completely ruined by the last 
war
than the pretension to foresight. But it was not from any lack of knowledge of history,
surely?...The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be. 
[Paul
Valery]




Re: Re: We're becoming another Argentina

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect


Thanks Lou,

Your contributions are inestimable. We are at another juncture, which you 
grasp and expresses in your contributions.

Thanks!

You have singularly altered my perception of what I thought was the 
Trotskyite movement and individuals. I hope that an old Stalinist dog such 
as I have shown that a dog can learn new tricks.

Trotsky wasn't that bad. Trotskyists are horrible, however.





Stop Bush's 'Wag the Dog' Invasion of Iraq

2002-08-01 Thread Diane Monaco

[Please sign this petition at:
http://democrats.com/iraq
and forward]



Stop Bush's 'Wag the Dog' Invasion of Iraq

To: George W. Bush, Congress, and the Media

We, the undersigned, oppose the Bush Administration's plan to invade, conquer, and occupy Iraq.

Iraq will accept a resumption of UN weapons inspections if the US agrees not to invade. But George W. Bush refuses to accept new weapons inspections for reasons that are purely political:

1. Bush's poll ratings are falling quickly because of public outrage over corporate corruption scandals and the falling stock market, and so he needs another war to change the news headlines and boost his poll ratings. In other words, Bush is wagging the dog.

2. Bush's Republican Party is likely to lose control of Congress and key Governorships in the November elections, and Bush desperately needs to engineer a Republican victory. In other words, the war in Iraq is also Bush's October Surprise.

3. Bush's oil industry donors want to gain complete control of Iraq's large oil reserves - by stealing them. Their views were summed up by Senator Bob Smith (R-NH) on April 12, 2002, when he told a large group of Republicans: Why don't we just take [Iraq's] oil? Why buy it? Take it!

4. Bush's weapons industry donors want to profit from another war. This includes Bush's father, George H. W. Bush, and his father's closest aide, James Baker, who are investors in the Carlyle Group, one of the largest weapons manufacturers in the US. 

5. Bush wants to rewrite the history of his father's Presidency. During the Gulf War, President George H. W. Bush refused to invade Baghdad and overthrow Saddam Hussein because of the opposition of US allies and because the US was not prepared to occupy and rule Iraq.

6. Bush wants to demonstrate to the world that US power is supreme and unchallengeable. Bush views America as the modern-day Rome, which will rule the world through force. Bush does not believe in freedom and democracy, either around the world - or in the US.

The reasons for opposing a US invasion of Iraq are overwhelming:

1. 250,000 US troops could be deployed, risking tens of thousands of American deaths and widespread illness from toxic chemical releases. Tens of thousands of Gulf War veterans are still suffering from the unexplained Gulf War syndrome.

2. The Gulf War cost $61 billion ($80 billion in current dollars), of which $48 billion was paid by Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Japan - but that still caused a US recession, even though the war ended in 3 days and we did not occupy Iraq. Since no other countries will pay for the US to conquer Iraq, US taxpayers will have to pay all of the costs, which will be much greater. That means all domestic programs will be even more deeply cut, the enormous Bush deficit will get much bigger, taxes will have to be raised to maintain reduced services, and the current recession will turn into a Depression.

3. US allies among Arab countries strongly oppose an invasion, and outrage among Arab citizens could result in the overthrow of several weak pro-US governments (especially Jordan and Egypt), which would be replaced by Taliban-style anti-American and anti-Israeli extremists.

4. The US imposed strict economic sanctions on Iraq after the Gulf War, which has resulted in the deaths of half a million innocent children. This is a massive violation of human rights, and it fosters the spread of
anti-American hatred among Arabs. 

5. Iraq has never attacked the U.S., and played no role in the September 11 attack. All propaganda efforts by right-wing officials like Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz to link Iraq to 9-11 have failed.

6. The US does not have the capability to occupy Iraq and run a democratic government. Even in Afghanistan, the US-imposed government has no control outside of Kabul, despite large numbers of US and other allied troops. This undemocratic government has been paralyzed by assassinations by rival warlords. Moreover, the heroin industry - which is so devastating to the US - has resumed production.

7. Scott Ritter, the former Marine who led extensive UN weapons inspections of Iraq, is nearly certain that Iraq does not possess chemical or biological weapons. Moreover, Iraq does not possess long-range missiles to deliver such weapons, and the US (or Israel) could easily destroy any such missiles through precision bombing - as Israel did when it destroyed a nuclear reactor under construction in Iraq.

When challenged about these issues, the Bush administration can only resort to the most absurd and outrageous justification for sending our children to their deaths - namely, Bush's credibility.

James R. Schlesinger, a member of Bush's Defense Policy Board, says: Given all we have said as a leading world power about the necessity of regime change in Iraq, means that our credibility would be badly damaged if that regime change did not take place.

Let's be clear: only Bush demanded a regime change in Iraq, not the 

issues in the military

2002-08-01 Thread Diane Monaco

[from a friend]

i was aware that domestic violence is much higher in the military and
often covered up, but I would have thought the military would have become
more proactive in addressing these issues rather than continuing to
dismiss or hide them. yet, i feel part of the problem is that even the
training sessions that are mandatory to attend are not taken seriously,
based on my own observations. however, i was not aware of the second
article regarding the use of go and no-go pills
by pilots, dating back to 1960 when they were approved for use. the
latter has come out as a possible factor in the overaggressive/paranoid
response by a pilot in the friendly fire deaths of 4 Canadian military
personnel. 
donnie

domestic violence/abuse in military 2-5 times more likely than civilian
sector
http://www.webactive.com/pacifica/demnow.html

use of amphetamines by USAF pilots
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0801-06.htm




Bleak economic indicators

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect

WSJ, Aug. 1, 2002

Economic Growth Slows
Far More Than Expected

By GREG IP
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

WASHINGTON -- The nation's economic recovery is weaker than previously 
believed and last year's recession was deeper, raising the chances that the 
still-fragile recovery could stall.

New government statistics revealed fresh signs of weakness in key sectors, 
including commercial real estate and government spending. Many experts 
still say a so-called double-dip recession is only a remote possibility, 
but concerns about a near-term slowdown are likely to shadow the nation's 
markets and businesses.

The Commerce Department said economic output grew at a 1.1% annual rate in 
the second quarter, down sharply from a 5% rate in the first quarter, a 
figure that itself was revised from an earlier-reported 6.1%. The growth 
was so anemic that the economy would have contracted had businesses not 
restocked inventories after months of depleting them in anticipation of 
slower sales.

Extensive Revisions

The Commerce Department also made extensive revisions to data from previous 
years, most notably indicating that last year's recession was longer and 
deeper, with the economy shrinking in each of the first three quarters 
instead of just the third, as originally thought.

The revisions have significant future implications. Previously, optimists 
argued that technological advances would allow productivity and profits to 
grow much more quickly without fueling inflation than in earlier decades. 
The new numbers have taken some of the bloom off that rosy view, though few 
argue the U.S. is heading back to the much pokier 1970s-era economy.

Blue-chip stocks initially plunged on the news, but recovered all their 
losses, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average closing up a modest 57 points 
at 8737. (See a roundup of Wednesday's market activity.)

Though mostly bleak, Wednesday's economic indicators weren't all bad. Much 
of the drop-off in growth was due not to weak spending but to a shift 
toward spending on imported goods instead of domestically produced ones. 
More recent data suggest economic activity is still advancing in July, 
though in fits and starts.

The economy expanded modestly in recent weeks, with an uneven performance 
across sectors, the Federal Reserve's periodic survey of economic 
conditions, known as the beige book, reported Wednesday.

Yet the economy continues to face strong headwinds. Commercial construction 
slumped 14% in the second quarter, and state and local spending shrank 
1.1%, two sectors that in stronger times pump significant cash into the 
economy and support consumer spending.

Greater Risk

Those factors increase the risk that the recent stock-market swoon will set 
back consumers, whose spending growth slowed to 1.9% in the second quarter 
from 3.1% in the first, and suffocate a fledgling recovery in business 
spending on equipment and software. Such spending advanced 2.9% in the 
second quarter after six straight quarters of decline.

It just means that the woes of the stock market this summer hit on a more 
vulnerable economy, and that's troublesome, said Jade Zelnik, chief 
economist at Greenwich Capital Markets. Clearly, you have to give a 
somewhat higher probability to a double dip even if it's not what you might 
consider the most likely scenario. A double-dip recession is a protracted 
downturn punctuated by at least one quarter of growth.

Clearly worried about the political implications of the sluggish economy, 
President Bush put a glass-half-full spin on the numbers. We're heading in 
the right direction, he told reporters. But the growth isn't strong 
enough, as far as I'm concerned.

The administration's top economic policymakers were sanguine. Glenn 
Hubbard, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, said the second 
quarter was weak partly because lots of spending that normally would occur 
in the second quarter happened in the first.

On average, growth in the first half of the year was about 3% at an annual 
rate. That seems about right given the shallowness of recession, Mr. 
Hubbard said. The bet has always been for a turnaround in business 
investment in the second half. The bet has always been for a turnaround in 
business investment in the second half. I see no reason to suggest that 
won't be the case.

Fed officials also have been relatively confident the stock-market plunge 
won't derail the recovery, though they acknowledge it has increased the 
uncertainty.

Most people, whatever their forecast was, would take a little bit off 
because of the market's fall, said Jack Guynn, president of the Federal 
Reserve Bank of Atlanta, in an interview this week. But the greatest 
probability is we will continue to get moderate growth of 2% to 3% in the 
second half, accelerating next year, he said.

That means that the Fed is unlikely to cut interest rates further as long 
as the financial markets keep functioning relatively well. But the 

We're becoming another Argentina

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect

Washington Post, Thursday, August 1, 2002; Page A01
Economic Crisis Swells in S. America

By Anthony Faiola
Washington Post Foreign Service

MONTEVIDEO, Uruguay, July 31 -- Several additional South American countries 
have been swept up in what is becoming the region's worst economic crisis 
in two decades, igniting fears of a replay of the Latin American financial 
collapses of the early 1980s.

The crisis, which analysts had hoped would be contained to Argentina's 
financial meltdown six months ago, has now spread to its neighbors Brazil, 
Uruguay and Paraguay. It has threatened to engulf other politically 
unstable economies in the region as well, including Bolivia and Venezuela, 
where analysts predict deep recessions for this year.

But this week, investor flight has particularly hit Argentina's immediate 
neighbors. In Brazil, Latin America's largest economy, government bonds 
have fallen to half their face value in recent weeks because of fears of a 
government default. The Brazilian real, in a tailspin that has lowered its 
value against the dollar by 19 percent this month, today touched its lowest 
point since going into circulation as the national currency in 1994.

Paraguay has come face-to-face with the prospect of a banking collapse and 
a deepening recession. Here in tiny Uruguay, dubbed the Switzerland of 
Latin America for its rock-solid financial system, government officials 
trying to stave off a debt default are seeking an immediate loan from the 
International Monetary Fund, the U.S. Treasury and other major foreign lenders.

To ease the pressure, the Uruguayan government was forced to close banks 
Tuesday for the first time in 20 years. It decided today to extend the 
banking holiday until Monday. The closure left many Uruguayans lining up in 
front of ATMs.

We're becoming another Argentina, said Maurice Lopez, 45, a Montevideo 
store clerk who waited today to withdraw cash from an ATM. I can't believe 
it has come to this.

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28776-2002Jul31.html




UN Treaty Moves to Senate Floor

2002-08-01 Thread Diane Monaco

[This 23 year old United Nations treaty, already approved by 170 countries, 
that promotes women's rights worldwide is still unratified by the United 
States...but now it has finally reached the Senate floor...in your face 
Jesse Helms!]

UN Treaty to Move to Senate Floor for First Time in US History

WASHINGTON, DC — In a 12-7 bipartisan vote, the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee approved US ratification of the United Nations treaty that sets
a global standard for women’s rights.

Today we are celebrating a victory for women, said Eleanor Smeal,
president of the Feminist Majority. For the first time in 22 years, with
the steadfast leadership of Sen. Joseph Biden (D-DE), the committee’s
current chair, and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), the committee’s sole female
member, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee has moved this historic
treaty to the Senate floor in time for a vote before adjournment.

On the heels of today’s victory, the full Senate will next debate US
ratification of the United Nations’ Convention on the Elimination of All
Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) for the first time since it
was drafted in 1979.


CEDAW   http://www.un.org/womenwatch/daw/cedaw/

Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women 
(CEDAW), adopted in 1979 by the UN General Assembly, is often described as 
an international bill of rights for women. Consisting of a preamble and 30 
articles, it defines what constitutes discrimination against women and sets 
up an agenda for national action to end such discrimination.




A Dutch interview with Immanuel Wallerstein

2002-08-01 Thread Jurriaan Bendien

(The following article I translated from Internationale Samenwerking (May 
2002, p.31-33), a monthly published free by the Dutch Ministry of Foreign 
Affairs. For the benefit of my anti-Dutch Marxmail critics I should perhaps 
point out that I mail this because I think it's interesting. Wallerstein 
can reduce complexity to simplicity and tell a story, a skill I value 
highly. But I don't agree with everything he says, just as I have many 
books on my shelf that I don't fully agree with. For example, Wallerstein 
oversimplifies capitalist behaviour, as leftists typically do.  In reality 
- as Wallerstein probably knows quite well - foreign investment strategy is 
not simply guided by lower wages, but by a combination of factors which 
provide an acceptable, stable rate of return. The biggest part of 
investment is usually the fixed capital outlay, not wages, and that is 
especially true if the wages themselves are low. Even if wages are low, 
this doesn't necessarily mean that an investor will take the risk of having 
a plant built somewhere, many other factors are involved including social 
stability, legal frameworks, production chains, proximity to markets, and 
all sorts. As I said on a previous occasion, there are numerous influences 
affecting the rate of profit, which is why schematic Marxist 
falling-rate-of-profit theories often look so weird. So anyway just because 
you have low wages, this doesn't automatically mean you will attract 
investment; most of the capital flows today are between rich countries. 
Also, when Wallerstein foresees the collapse of capitalism, this is just 
false, just as when Mandel predicted the collapse of capitalism by the year 
2000 twenty years ago. As Lenin remarked at the second Comintern Congress, 
there are no absolutely hopeless situations for capitalism in crisis, you 
have to kill it in order to end it. For example, the economy of Argentina 
may have collapsed, but that doesn't mean capitalism has collapsed there, 
that is a social and political question - JB).

HISTORY IS ON NOBODY'S SIDE - Interview with Immanuel Wallertein by Barbara 
Coolen

Immanuel Wallerstein made his name in the middle of the 1970s with his book 
The Modern World System, about the emergence and growth of the capitalist 
world economy. Three decades and innumerable publications later the 
sociologist announces the end of capitalism. Twenty-five, maybe fifty 
years, then the world system will collapse. What will take its place ? 
Nobody knows.

Wallerstein looks surprisingly young at 71. The American, who in the past 
has been called the new Marx, talks vigorously and with big gestures. His 
story is just as big. He hops with great leaps through five centuries of 
history, from North to South and back again, from The Netherlands to Porto 
Alegre in Brazil. There Wallerstein attended the World Social Forum last 
February, opposing the negative effects of globalisation.

Q: You call globalisation a hype. Why is that ?

IW: Because it's nothing new under the sun. Globalisation is as old as 
capitalism itself. The building materials used for ships rolling off the 
wharves in 17th century Amsterdam came from here, there and everywhere. 
Just like the workers. Cross-border production and trade are therefore 
nothing new. At the same time, globalisation is  described
as something positive and inevitable, prescribed really. You have to open 
your borders, because that's better for everybody.But there is a lot of 
hypocrisy in this discussion. The European Union is in favour of free 
trade, but not for farm products. The USA wants France to open its borders 
for American movies, but their own borders remain closed for Third World 
textiles. Or steel.

Q: You say that globalisation is part of capitalism. Elsewhere you claim 
that capitalism is justabout dead. Why ?

IW: It is defeated by its own success. Capitalism begins and ends with the 
limitless accumulation of capital. A capitalist amasses capital so that he 
can generate more capital in order to gain even more capital. Looked at 
from the outside, it's a strange system really: it has no function beyond 
its own driving force, it must move forwards. For the first time in 500 
years I now see real obstacles for further capital accumulation. The limits 
have been reached, the sources of growth are being exhausted.

Q: In what way ? What keeps capitalism going ?

IW: For capital accumulation you need profit; the difference between 
costprices and salesprices. The price of products can only be driven up to 
a certain level. Beyond that more profit can only come out of driving down 
production costs. The principal costs - wages, raw materials and taxes - 
have risen enormously in the last two to three hundred years. And they will 
continue to do that.

Q: Is this inevitable ?

IW: Yes, ultimately it is. Labour ultimately always organises itself 
everywhere, to negotiate better pay. This causes enterprises at some point 
to flee and shift 

Re: Jim Blaut on world systems analysis

2002-08-01 Thread joanna bujes

Louis Proyect wrote...

A related position is Giovanni Arrighi's peculiar 'geometry' of world 
processes under capitalism. Arrighi is an admitted Kantian, and he believes 
that the basic forces determining the historical trajectory of the modern 
world are ultimately spatial, in an absolutist, Newtonian or Kantian sense. 
Thus he deduces what he calls the 'crisis of the nation-state', the latter 
seen as a mere spatial cell in the geometry of the world. In this geometry, 
scalar forces like imperialism -- Hobson's concept, not Lenin's, which 
Arrighi dismisses - are seen as acting independently of other scalar forces 
like capitalism. The 'crisis of the nation-state' derives from these 
worldscale absolute-spatial forces, which seem likely soon to erase states 
from the geometrician's blackboard. In sum, these are two forms of 
neo-Marxism which postulate not empirically observable processes, but 
world-embracing metaphysical forces, as the explanation for what one 
theorist (Arrighi) believes to be the decline of the national state and the 
other (Wallerstein) the insignificance of the state and of struggles to 
control it.

Yeah, I read the Wallerstein piece that was posted earlier today and I was 
profoundly underwhelmed.  It made me think that one cure for neo-marxism 
would be some kind of grunt job for at least a year (in lieu of a 
sabbatical). Beyond that, Hardt/Negri/Wallerstein/etc interest me only as 
flavors of social/intellectual/ pathology; and right now, there are more 
urgent tasks.like organizing against any and all forms of US aggression.

Joanna




Jordan opposes action against Iraq

2002-08-01 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

The Hindu

Tuesday, Jul 30, 2002

Jordan opposes action against Iraq

By Hasan Suroor

LONDON JULY 29. King Abdullah of Jordan, who met the British Prime Minister,
Tony Blair, here on Monday, rejected speculation that his country would back
any U.S. military action in Iraq and accused the hardliners in Pentagon of
being fixated on Iraq''.
His meeting with Mr. Blair took place amid growing opposition among Labour
MPs, including some Cabinet ministers, to any British backing for an attack
on Baghdad despite the Prime Minister's assertion last week that it was not
imminent''. But the Foreign Office Minister, Ben Bradshaw, fuelled
speculation when he suggested that the `threat' from Iraq would not go away
by simply ignoring it and brushed aside an opinion poll which showed that 51
per cent of Britons were opposed to a military option.
King Abdullah said that in his talks with the U.S. President, George W.
Bush, later this week he would warn that any attack on Iraq would open up a
Pandora's box'' in West Asia. He distanced himself from the U.S.-backed
Iraqi dissidents who recently met in London to discuss the overthrow of the
Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein. The presence of his estranged uncle, Prince
Hassan, at the meeting had prompted speculation that it signalled Jordanian
Government's support for anti-Iraq moves. It was regarded as significant in
the context of reports, which were later denied, that Jordan was willing to
offer bases to U.S. to launch an attack on Iraq.
``Prince Hassan blundered into something he did not realise he was getting
into, and we're all picking up the pieces,'' he told The Times.
He warned that the hawks in the Bush administration, pressing for an attack
on Iraq, posed a threat to American strategic interests'' in West Asia. The
international community, he said, was `united' in its opposition to any such
action, and so was Jordan. Ask our friends in China, in Moscow, in England,
in Paris everybody will tell you that we have concerns about military
actions against Iraq,'' he said.
The situation in West Asia dominated his discussions with Mr. Blair with the
two sides stressing the need to get Israel and the Palestinians back on the
negotiating table. Their talks, however, were overshadowed by a fresh
controversy over Iraq following reports that Government lawyers had advised
against British participation in a military attack on Baghdad without a
United Nations mandate. This seemed to contradict the Government's position
that the 23 U.N. resolutions were sufficient justification for intervention.
A former Defence Minister in the Blair Government, Peter Kilfoyle,
meanwhile, warned of a major split in the Labour party if the Prime Minister
backed an invasion of Iraq without proper authorisation.

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Jim Blaut on world systems analysis

2002-08-01 Thread Louis Proyect

(From the late Jim Blaut's regrettably out-of-print The National 
Question. Sharp readers will notice a strong affinity between 
Wallerstein's world systems perspective and the one put forward by 
Hardt-Negri in Empire)

A second national-states-are-out-of-date position is associated with 
metaphysical neo-Marxists like Giovanni Arrighi, Immanuel Wallerstein, 
and their associates at the Fernand Braudel Center for the Study of 
Economies, Historical Systems, and Civilizations, of the State 
University of New York. This position or family of related positions, 
mystifies, or re-mystifies, capitalism, so that it be something 
different from and greater in scale than all the merely em processes 
taking place on the earth's surface.

Wallerstein's group employs what it calls 'world system analysis'. This 
is a form of neo-Marxism distinguished --I employ caricature here, but 
not unfairly so-- by its insistence that the capitalist world system, at 
the global scale, determines all processes, such as politics, and all 
part-regions, such as states. This is very close to pure Hegelian 
holism. The capitalist world-system is not defined by its parts and 
their interrelations. Rather, this system is something greater than 
parts and relations, and it determines their nature, behaviour, and 
historical evolution. 'It' is not empirically identified, and thus 
closely resembles Hegel's undefinable 'world spirit' (and other 
undiscoverable entities of romantic philosophy, like the 'life force'). 
Marx's critique of Hegel's mystical and holistic theory of the state as 
might serve also as a critique of the metaphysics of 'world-system analysis'

In any event, the 'world-system' school puts forward some empirical 
propositions which supposedly derive from the higher 'world-system' 
processes and which have concrete and troublesome meaning in the real 
world, not least for national liberation struggles. First, since the 
capitalist world system maintains in some mysterious way a hegemonic 
control of political processes throughout the world, no state exists 
outside its sphere of control, and no state in the entire therefore, is 
really socialist. Second, sovereignty is an illusion, since the 
overarching world system controls all states. Third, decolonization did 
no result from liberation movements, nor these from the peculiarities of 
colonial oppression and superexploitation; rather, decolonization 
occurred simply when the capitalist world-system had entered a cyclic 
phase -- Wallerstein believes firmly in repetitive historical cycles - 
in which 'informal empire' seemed more desirable than colonies. Fourth, 
and by the same token, all anticolonial revolutions, without exception, 
have failed to achieve fundamental social change. And finally, as of 
summing-up of all of the foregoing, the state is not of fundamental 
importance and struggles for state-sovereignty are somewhat frivolous.

A related position is Giovanni Arrighi's peculiar 'geometry' of world 
processes under capitalism. Arrighi is an admitted Kantian, and he 
believes that the basic forces determining the historical trajectory of 
the modern world are ultimately spatial, in an absolutist, Newtonian or 
Kantian sense. Thus he deduces what he calls the 'crisis of the 
nation-state', the latter seen as a mere spatial cell in the geometry of 
the world. In this geometry, scalar forces like imperialism -- Hobson's 
concept, not Lenin's, which Arrighi dismisses - are seen as acting 
independently of other scalar forces like capitalism. The 'crisis of the 
nation-state' derives from these worldscale absolute-spatial forces, 
which seem likely soon to erase states from the geometrician's 
blackboard. In sum, these are two forms of neo-Marxism which postulate 
not empirically observable processes, but world-embracing metaphysical 
forces, as the explanation for what one theorist (Arrighi) believes to 
be the decline of the national state and the other (Wallerstein) the 
insignificance of the state and of struggles to control it.

-- 

Louis Proyect
www.marxmail.org




Re: Re: Jim Blaut on world systems analysis

2002-08-01 Thread Ulhas Joglekar

joanna bujes :

Yeah, I read the Wallerstein piece that was posted earlier today and I was
 profoundly underwhelmed.  It made me think that one cure for neo-marxism
 would be some kind of grunt job for at least a year (in lieu of a
 sabbatical). Beyond that, Hardt/Negri/Wallerstein/etc interest me only as
 flavors of social/intellectual/ pathology; and right now, there are more
 urgent tasks.like organizing against any and all forms of US
aggression.

That's right. The best way of helping other nations is to change one's own
by understanding it. What the Left in Chile (for example) thinks about
Mongolia (for example) is of no consequence. If a Chilean Marxist wants to
specialise in the history and culture of Mongolia, he is welcome to do. But
endless conjectures about distant nations by dilettantes don't help anyone.

Ulhas




Re: Jordan opposes action against Iraq

2002-08-01 Thread Michael Pollak


 The Hindu

 Tuesday, Jul 30, 2002

 Jordan opposes action against Iraq

snip

 [King Abdullah] warned that the hawks in the Bush administration,
 pressing for an attack on Iraq, posed a threat to American strategic
 interests'' in West Asia.

I saw the Middle East referred to as West Asia once before and thought
it was a brilliant piece of political correctness.  But is it really just
a standard term for the area in Indian papers?  That'd be ever better.

Michael




Contagion?

2002-08-01 Thread Ian Murray

[The Guardian]
Real crisis of confidence
Thursday August 1, 2002

Six months after Argentina's economy went into meltdown, the shockwaves are finally
reaching its neighbours, including Brazil, writes Mark Tran



Uruguay, long regarded as the Switzerland of Latin America because of its solid
financial system, has been forced to close down its banks for the first time in 20 
years
to prevent a classic run on bank deposits.

Already nearly $6bn (£3.8bn) has been withdrawn from Uruguay's banks since the start of
the year and the government's foreign reserves have shrunk by three quarters to just 
over
$725m since December. No wonder Uruguay is asking for help from the US and the
International Monetary Fund.

But the biggest domino is Brazil, where government bonds have plummeted in recent weeks
because of fears of a government default on its $250bn debt.

The Brazilian currency, the real, this month alone dropped 19% against the dollar. 
Brazil
is coming under pressure even though its president, Fernando Henrique Cardoso, has been
praised by the IMF for having brought economic stability after years of boom and bust.
Under Mr Cardoso, inflation has been tamed, while reforms have led to privatisation and
more open markets.

But Brazil is vulnerable because of its huge debt so any economic pressure that makes 
it
difficult to service debt payments is a cause for worry. The crisis in Argentina has 
hurt
Brazil because of a decline in trade between the two countries. As the Argentinian 
middle
class sinks into poverty, demand for goods, domestic and international, has inevitably
shrunk; the loss of an important market has hurt Brazilian exports.

Even more nerve-wracking for the markets is the prospect of a leftwing victory in the
October presidential elections. A recent poll surprised the markets by showing the two
left candidates, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, a former union worker, and Ciro Gomes, a
left-of-centre candidate, running ahead of Mr Cardoso's anointed heir, the former 
health
minister, Jose Serra. Investors fear that either of these two will reverse the
market-friendly policies of recent years.

The other cause for concern is uncertainty over whether the IMF will extend its current
programme for Brazil that would include postponement of payments to the fund from 2003 
to
2004 and an increase in amounts Brazil can borrow.

The gaffe-prone US treasury secretary, Paul O'Neill, did not ease market concern this 
week
when he urged Brazil to pursue sound policies so that [aid] does some good and doesn't
just go out of the country to Swiss bank accounts.

The best thing to shore up confidence the region would be for the IMF to announce a new
deal with Brazil. Indeed, Brazil's bonds soared today, extending gains that began in 
New
York yesterday in expectation of an agreement in the talks that began in Washington 
this
week.

Analysts are surprisingly sanguine that repercussions from Argentina will be contained 
and
that contagion will not spread as it did like a bush fire in Asia in 1997. They believe
that contagion is limited as most foreign investors have been switching to US corporate
bonds, which offer more security, out of emerging markets like Brazil.

The contagion we are seeing in Latin America is running along the lines of shared 
trade
or, more importantly, economic vulnerabilities, at the heart of which lie inadequate
fiscal controls (spending limits), said Avinash Persaud, an analyst with State 
Street, a
US bank.

This does not dismiss the misery of Latin Americans, but it suggests that contagion 
will
be limited and is best halted with domestic remedies, perhaps facilitated by some
breathing space from the creditors.

Let us hope that the analysts are right, because they certainly did not see the Asian
financial crisis coming or spreading so fast.




Re: hope to hear from you

2002-08-01 Thread 77 2

ATTN; Sir,

I got your contact address on my desperate search for
a reliable person/company for partnership investments
overseas. By introduction, I am Mr SOLOMON PHILLIP a
Sierra Leonean and son of late DR PHILLIP COLMAN .
Before
the death of my father he disclosed to me about the
total sum of $22 million US dollars he deposited under
a suspense account with a bank in Abidjan C=F4te
d=92Ivoire.
This fund represent the huge Sales of Gold and Diamond
he diverted while in office as the director general
for Gold and Diamond Mining Co-Opretionin in Sierra
Leone .For security reason according to my late
father, he
made an agreement with the bank that his partner/
beneficiary will come forward to submit his banking
details for onward transfer of the fund to his
account. DR PHILLIP COLMAN , my late father advice me
in case if he died that I should look for a foreigner
who will stand as the beneficiary of the fund so that
the fund will be transfer to his/her account for
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Ivory Coast, home number 45 Lordkings Street Abdjain,phone 
number 00225 075 581 47 with my two sisters for the
purpose of
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Meanwhile, I am writing to know if you can stand as
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will then with draw some money and send to us in order
for me and my two sisters secure the necessary documents to
enable us come over to meet you for the investment. On
confirmation of your interest to assist us, the
certificate
of deposit with the lodgement receipt of the fund
which was issued to my late father by the bank on the
day he deposited the fund will be forward to you for
your confirmation. 10% of the total sum will be
offered
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for any expenses that might arise during the transfer.
Indicate your interest as soon as you received this
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GMO's and international environmental law

2002-08-01 Thread Ian Murray

Sustainable Agriculture: Do GMOs Imperil Biosafety?
Lakshman D. Guruswamy*

Indiana Journal of Global Legal Studies
9 Ind. J. Global Legal Stud. 461

http://ijgls.indiana.edu/archive/09/02/guruswamy.shtml