Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

2004-06-26 Thread Joseph Green
   I am posting a chronology I wrote in early 2000 about Chechnya. It deals
briefly with a number of the issues raised by recent posts on PEN-L. I will
serialize it in parts. Taken as a whole, it shows

   --that Chechnya was not a part of Russia until the late 19th century, when it
was conquered after a bitter, bloody, genocidal conflict of many decades. So it
isn't a historic part of old Russia, either ethnically or geographically.

   --that the Russian conquest was a typical brutal colonialist war, and
included the ethnic cleansing of many Chechens and the deforestation of a large
part of Chechnya.

   --that in the early days of the revolution, the Soviet Union was feeling its
way to a new policy on the Caucasus, and carried out many reforms and a certain
recognition of the national rights of the local nationalities.

   --that the Stalinist policy led up to the genocidal mass deportation of all
Chechens from Chechnya in 1944 (and the removal of Chechens from the Red Army,
including Chechens who had won medals in the fight against the Nazi invasion of
the Soviet Union).

   -- that Yeltsin's interference with Chechen didn't wait until 1994, but was
carried out with brutality from 1991. The open war beginning in 1994 only marked
an escalation of the covert war that began in October/November 1991, and that
has never ended up to the present.

--that, contrary to colonialist sarcasm about the Chechen Wonderland of
Independent Ichkeria, Chechnya never got recognized independence from Russia.
It merely got a couple of years of truce to the open warfare. The settlement of
the first period of open warfare, the Khasavyurt accords, left open the question
of Chechen sovereignty to be settled by 2001: but long before then the Russian
government had renounced the Khasavyurt accords. In the meantime, Chechen was
left without the authority needed to establish a functioning economy. It is
impossible to seriously analyze what happened in Chechnya without referring to
the effect of the devastation of the Chechen economy by Russian intervention,
blockade and interference, and without referring to the effect on the Chechen
people of the massive killings, torture in Russian filtration camps, and
humiliation during the 1990s.

   --that the Yeltsin-Putin war on Chechnya is part of a general series of
Russian imperialist activity towards the Caucasus, which includes playing off
one nation against another. For example, the Russian government played with the
the secession movement of Abkhazia against former Soviet Georgia. The Russian
government fished in troubled waters in order to get permission to establish
military bases in the guise of providing stability.

   --that the rise of Chechen fundamentalism has gone hand-in-hand with Russian
colonialist invasion and brutality. Tsarist colonialist aggression gave rise to
an upsurge of religious passion in the resistance to Russia in the late 18th and
early 19th century as Chechens. And the Yeltsin-Putin war against Chechnya, from
1991 to the present, has dramatically contributed to the weight of
fundamentalism in Chechnya.

 I hope this material will be useful to those who want to formulate a policy
on Chechnya that will help the class-conscious workers of all countries unite
and rebuild an independent class movement.

 Recently there have been dozens of recent postings on Chechnya. I have
examined these postings, and I believe that the factual part of these postings
(not necessarily the conclusions drawn by the person(s) who have has posted
them) confirm the accuracy of this chronology. In turn I hope that this
chronology will be of help for people trying to work their way through the
material on Chechnya. At the time I prepared this chronology, I also reviewed
three books on Chechnya, written from different points of view (the authors
being the apologist of Russian imperialism Anatol Lieven, the Western
journalists Carlotta Gall  Thomas de Waal, and the cold-warrior John Dunlop),
and those reviews describe some of these issues in more detail. For example, my
review of Gall's and de Waal's book goes at more length into the issue of the
attitude of the Soviet Union towards Chechnya. Links to these works can be found
at www.communistvoice.org/00Chechnya.html

I start with part one, the history of tsarist conquest of Chechnya, with
some reference to other events in the Caucasus:

-
Important dates in
Russian-Chechen relations
-


Several thousand years ago:

. The ancestors of the Chechens arrive in the North Caucasus.

1550s to 1604:

. The Russian state begins serious attempts to enter the North Caucasus, which
however had to be given up until 1722

1722:

. There is the first major battle between Chechens and the encroaching Russian
state. Russian cavalry sent by Tsar Peter the Great to occupy a village in
eastern Chechnya is defeated. Peter the Great dies in 1725, and tsarist
expansionism 

Farming back to 23,000 years ago

2004-06-26 Thread Chris Burford
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3826731.stm


Blair in public split with Bush

2004-06-26 Thread Chris Burford
http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1247759,00.html

Interesting how this is done. The Attorney General, a government
minister, who is meant to give impartial legal advice (which is then
kept secret - eg whether it is lawful to invade Iraq) has delivered a
speech in a foreign capital - Paris - saying as a matter of pure
jurisprudence that it is difficult to accept the system of military
tribunals at Guantanamo.

Typically the Blair administration has negotiated the repatriation of
5 British detainees from Guantanamo Bay (at least one of whom gave
evidence of sexual humiliation and psychological torture going on
there). There are only four remaining.

And this news story is presented in such a way as to make highly
ambiguous the degree of disagreement between Bush and Blair, and to
treat is as an ongoing part of the business of diplomatic relations.
But the manner of handling, allows others to speculate that the
alliance is not much of an alliance, and for Blair to distance himself
from Bush a little, while putting pressure for Bush to confront the
Pentagon and release the remaining 4 in a gesture that will show he
has not been a poodle.

And this at a time when Bush is on the retreat internationally and in
Iraq, whereas Blair may just be forgiven in the UK for his realpolitik
that Britain had to decide whether to ally with the USA over a matter
of great importance to that administration. Bush does not have that
excuse, and further adverse events in Iraq may hurt Bush more than
Blair. Which of course might require a sympathetic observation or two
from the Brits, but could work out to be rather favourable to
Britain's role in the world - the peace maker, the peace keeper, but
committed to the rule of law, and with a tolerably efficient body of
armed men at the disposal of a multi-lateralist model of emerging
Empire.

Meanwhile of course it is just a matter of time before the Brits get
their remaining 4 citizens back from Guantanamo Bay, as Powell's
officials have probably already privately indicated to them. When
these citizens arrive in the UK there will be further news stories,
which the Brits will handle with superb responsibility, but will
further distance Blair if not from Bush, from Rumsfeld, and the
detainees will probably be released. Thereby raising further questions
in the international community about whether the USA's military
adventures are in conformity with any concept of international law or
not.

The well judged balancing act of Perdious Albion continues to
unfold, rather professionally. And as a bye-product 4 detainees may
get released.

If you attempt to be a modern marxist, watch news management to see
how the material balance of forces is moulded in the ideological
superstructure.

Chris Burford
London


Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

2004-06-26 Thread Chris Doss
Uh, I never disagreed with any of this.

Once again: What should Russia's reaction have been to armed aggression onto its 
territory? (Now that we have established that such aggression did in fact take place.)

I have never gotten an answer.


Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

2004-06-26 Thread Michael Perelman
Chris, there are no easy answers.  Engels once said that the worst time for a bad
government is when it first tries to do something good.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 03:01:17PM +0400, Chris Doss wrote:
 Uh, I never disagreed with any of this.

 Once again: What should Russia's reaction have been to armed aggression onto its 
 territory? (Now that we have established that such aggression did in fact take 
 place.)

 I have never gotten an answer.

--
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Blair in public split with Bush

2004-06-26 Thread Michael Perelman
What was the response to the other released Gitmo Brits having been accused falsely?

On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 07:23:08AM +0100, Chris Burford wrote:
 http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1247759,00.html

 Interesting how this is done. The Attorney General, a government
 minister, who is meant to give impartial legal advice (which is then
 kept secret - eg whether it is lawful to invade Iraq) has delivered a
 speech in a foreign capital - Paris - saying as a matter of pure
 jurisprudence that it is difficult to accept the system of military
 tribunals at Guantanamo.

 Typically the Blair administration has negotiated the repatriation of
 5 British detainees from Guantanamo Bay (at least one of whom gave
 evidence of sexual humiliation and psychological torture going on
 there). There are only four remaining.

 And this news story is presented in such a way as to make highly
 ambiguous the degree of disagreement between Bush and Blair, and to
 treat is as an ongoing part of the business of diplomatic relations.
 But the manner of handling, allows others to speculate that the
 alliance is not much of an alliance, and for Blair to distance himself
 from Bush a little, while putting pressure for Bush to confront the
 Pentagon and release the remaining 4 in a gesture that will show he
 has not been a poodle.

 And this at a time when Bush is on the retreat internationally and in
 Iraq, whereas Blair may just be forgiven in the UK for his realpolitik
 that Britain had to decide whether to ally with the USA over a matter
 of great importance to that administration. Bush does not have that
 excuse, and further adverse events in Iraq may hurt Bush more than
 Blair. Which of course might require a sympathetic observation or two
 from the Brits, but could work out to be rather favourable to
 Britain's role in the world - the peace maker, the peace keeper, but
 committed to the rule of law, and with a tolerably efficient body of
 armed men at the disposal of a multi-lateralist model of emerging
 Empire.

 Meanwhile of course it is just a matter of time before the Brits get
 their remaining 4 citizens back from Guantanamo Bay, as Powell's
 officials have probably already privately indicated to them. When
 these citizens arrive in the UK there will be further news stories,
 which the Brits will handle with superb responsibility, but will
 further distance Blair if not from Bush, from Rumsfeld, and the
 detainees will probably be released. Thereby raising further questions
 in the international community about whether the USA's military
 adventures are in conformity with any concept of international law or
 not.

 The well judged balancing act of Perdious Albion continues to
 unfold, rather professionally. And as a bye-product 4 detainees may
 get released.

 If you attempt to be a modern marxist, watch news management to see
 how the material balance of forces is moulded in the ideological
 superstructure.

 Chris Burford
 London

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Michael Perelman
Yes, it is wrong.  It adds nothing to the list.  You can tell X personally that you
do not like him/her off list, but not here.

On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 09:21:31PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
 Michael:

 What is wrong with letting a person know that you do not like him Michael?

 Do we have to like everybody?


--
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

2004-06-26 Thread Chris Doss
That is my whole point. Things are a lot more complicated than just evil Russian 
imperialists attacking noble Chechen freedom-fighters.

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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 04:44:44 -0700
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 Chris, there are no easy answers.  Engels once said that the worst time for a bad
 government is when it first tries to do something good.



Can't keep it in their pants

2004-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, June 26, 2004
Candidate, Under Pressure, Quits Senate Race in Illinois
By STEPHEN KINZER
CHICAGO, June 25 - Crippled by accusations about sex clubs and losing
support from his own party, Jack Ryan, the Republican Senate candidate
in Illinois, pulled out of the race on Friday, leaving Republicans
searching for a new face to defend a critical Senate seat.
It's clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could
not take place if I remain in the race, Mr. Ryan said in a statement to
reporters at his campaign headquarters. What would take place, rather,
is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign - the kind of campaign that has
turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play.
The candidacy of Mr. Ryan, 44, an investment banker turned teacher in
the inner city, imploded when a judge unsealed custody papers that
included statements by his former wife, the actress Jeri Ryan (she
played 7 of 9, a reformed Borg, on Startrek), saying he had taken her
to sex clubs and asked her to have public sex. Her accusations left
Republicans reeling in a race that represents one of the Democrats' top
chances to pick up a seat now held by a Republican, Peter G. Fitzgerald,
who is not seeking a second term.
full: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/26/politics/26ryan.html
===
NY Daily News, June 25, 2004
Say judge got
a grip on himself
OKLAHOMA CITY - Giving new meaning to the phrase if it please the
court, an Oklahoma judge allegedly masturbated and used a device for
enhancing erections on the bench while court was in session.
A court clerk also told state officials she once saw Judge Donald
Thompson shaving the area around his genitals with a disposable razor
while he was on the bench.
The stunning allegations were made in a petition from the state attorney
general, who is seeking to remove the randy jurist from the bench.
The formal complaint from Oklahoma Attorney General Drew Edmondson
charges that Thompson, 57, engaged in conduct constituting an offense
involving moral turpitude in violation of the Oklahoma Constitution,
Edmondson's spokesman said yesterday.
The Sapulpa District judge flatly denies the charges, his attorney Clark
Brewster said yesterday. He said the judge received a penis pump for his
50th birthday as a gag gift, which became a source of a running joke in
the courthouse.
The allegations are bizarre and preposterous, Brewster said.
Recently, some members of local law enforcement that are upset with a
number of his rulings used this situation to embarrass and attack him.
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Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2




In a message dated 6/26/2004 1:01:35 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1817-64:. These are the years of the fierce series of 
  rebellions and conflicts called the Caucasian War, in which the Chechens play 
  a major role. Ultimately Russia subjugates the Caucasus through devastating 
  many of its peoples. A substantial part of the Chechen population are killed, 
  while many Chechens and other Caucasian mountaineers are deported from their 
  regions to elsewhere in the Caucasus, or forced to leave the Caucasus entirely 
  and settle in the Ottoman Empire (Turkey). The tsarist forces could not 
  achieve victory over the Chechens so long as the forests provided cover for 
  ambushes and guerrilla tactics, so the Russian army systematically cuts down 
  the main Chechen forests. The Chechen landscape is permanently 
  altered.. . .. Shamil also seeks to build up state or 
  governmental institutions among the Chechens, something which the Chechen 
  tribes had not previously had. Contrary to romanticized pictures of such 
  revolts, he doesn't shrink from harsh, dictatorial measures to enforce his 
  decrees and preserve unity against the Russians.1877-8:. On 
  the occasion of a war between Russia and the Ottoman Empire, there is a new 
  anti-Russian uprising in the North Caucasus, led by Haji Mohammed in Chechnya 
  and Ali-Bek Haji in Dagestan.1890s:. Oil is discovered in 
  Grozny, Chechnya's main city, which by 1900 becomes second only to Baku 
  (presently the capital of Azerbaijan) as an oil city in the tsarist empire. 
  Later, Chechnya will be important both for oil extraction and refining in the 
  Soviet Union. Still later, oil extraction will decline quite far by 1980, 
  being less than half the output of 1911, but Chechnya will retain its 
  significance for the Soviet Union as a producer of special aviation oils, as a 
  major refining center, and as part of a major network of oil 
  pipelines.



Comment

It is very easy to speak of and demand a class analysis of 
social forces and in the heat of the moment forget to present the economic 
analysis, which in fact is the meaning of the word class analysis. Class 
analysis means the social and political relations of economic units in their 
interactivity with themselves andother economic units - with the property 
relations within, in the social and ideological sphere. 

Classes are in the last instance riveted to how people are 
organized and group together on the basis of a definable stage in the 
development of productive forces - a given state of tool, instrument and machine 
development + human labor sitting on a definable energy grid. 

1. Everyone on earth remotely familiar with human history 
agree that it is written on a parchment of genocide in blood ink. This is 
especially true for the Western hemisphere as the premier model of development 
for the past seven hundred years. 

2. Imperialism has been and remains the general form of human 
advancement in the sense that more developed states (economic units) subjugate 
lesser developed peoples and bring them into their framework and trajectory of 
economic development. 

3. Imperial logic as the export of more developed productive 
forces takes place as military conquest in history and is not peculiar to the 
epoch of bourgeois property and industrial relations of production. Thinking, 
ideological proclamations and passionate appeals to justice cannot halt this 
very real historical progression . . . did not alter this historical 
trajectory and will not halt this historical progression tomorrow or the day 
after tomorrow. 

4. The period chronicled above is the period of the formation 
of what would be called the national question and the economic relations during 
the 1850s - 1900s became the basis for Lenin's party and Lenin personally to 
formulate what is called the national question as an attribute of Leninism. 


5. The chronicle above is absolutely devoid of economic 
analysis or class analysis that is the material that would allow us today to try 
and unravel what the Communists - Bolsheviks,in Russia were responding to 
and why they put forth various political forms of resolution of the national 
question, short of the formation of independent national or rather multinational 
state structures. 

In as much as Chechnya is composed of more than one 
historically evolved peoples we are not talking about the formation of a 
national state structure in the first place, but rather a multinational state 
structure, that in theory would have existed in a federated stated structure not 
unlike that of the USNA. 

6. The question that emerged in the discussion of Chechnya was 
not whether it is morally proper for the peoples of Chechnya to be beat up by 
the guardians of the Russian State or their own rotten and reactionary leaders, 
but rather what is the current form of resolution of the national factor for us 
today as opposed to in the time of Lenin and 

Viagra, Valium, and Prostitution in Occupied Iraq

2004-06-26 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Viagra, Valium, and Prostitution in Occupied Iraq:
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/viagra-valium-and-prostitution-in.html.
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/
* Bring Them Home Now! http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/
* Calendars of Events in Columbus:
http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/calendar.html,
http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php,  http://www.cpanews.org/
* Student International Forum: http://sif.org.ohio-state.edu/
* Committee for Justice in Palestine: http://www.osudivest.org/
* Al-Awda-Ohio: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio
* Solidarity: http://www.solidarity-us.org/


Print versus web publishing

2004-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect
(Years from now historians might regard the differences between the 
Internet and print journals today in the same light as those that 
existed between handwritten manuscripts and material produced by the 
Gutenberg press during the dawn of the bourgeois-democratic revolution. 
One form of communication has enormously democratic implications while 
the other serves as an elitist club open only to those who have been 
accepted into the priesthood. In Gutenberg's day, it was the Catholic 
church. Today it is tenured academia.)

---
NY Times, June 26, 2004
A Quiet Revolt Puts Costly Journals on Web
By PAMELA BURDMAN
When Dr. Miguel Nicolelis, a neurobiologist at Duke University, decided 
to release a groundbreaking study in an upstart online journal, his 
colleagues were flabbergasted. The research, demonstrating how brain 
implants enabled monkeys to operate a robotic arm, was a shoo-in for 
acceptance in premier journals like Nature or Science.

Usually you want to publish your best work in well-established journals 
to have the widest possible penetration, Dr. Nicolelis said. My idea 
was the opposite. We need to open up the dissemination of scientific 
results. The journal Dr. Nicolelis chose  PLoS Biology, a publication 
of the Public Library of Science  aims to do just that by putting 
peer-reviewed scientific papers online free, at the Web site 
www.plosbiology.org.

The high subscription cost of prestigious peer-reviewed journals has 
been a running sore point with scholars, whose tenure and prominence 
depend on publishing in them. But since the Public Library of Science, 
which was started by a group of prominent scientists, began publishing 
last year, this new model has been gaining attention and currency within 
academia.

More than money and success is at stake. Free and widespread 
distribution of new research has the potential to redefine the way 
scientific and intellectual developments are recorded, circulated and 
preserved for years to come.

Society pays for science, said Dr. Nicolelis, whose article in the 
October issue of PLoS got worldwide attention. We have the technology, 
we have the expertise. Why is it that the only thing that has remained 
the same for 50 years is the way we publish our results? The whole 
system needs overhaul.

(clip)
But more and more academics are viewing traditional publishers as 
obstacles to wide dissemination of studies paid for by public monies. 
Several open access alternatives are being hotly debated in academic 
online discussion groups and in the mainstream science press. The 
criticism even extends to some nonprofit publications, like the journal 
Science, which nearly tripled prices for its largest subscribers over 
the last two years.

Late last year, two scientists at the University of California at San 
Francisco called for a global boycott by authors and editors of six 
molecular biology journals published by Elsevier. They timed the 
campaign to coincide with the moment that the the University of 
California system was renegotiating its contract with the company.

The mission and mandate of scientific publishing is to provide a formal 
record of scientific discovery, not to make publishing companies rich or 
editors famous, said one of the organizers, Keith R. Yamamoto, a 
prominent microbiologist and the vice dean for research.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/26/books/26PUB.html
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The hidden costs of cheaper oil

2004-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, June 26, 2004
China Pays a Price for Cheaper Oil
By KEITH BRADSHER
HONG KONG, June 23 - With toxic lead finally disappearing from most of
the world's gasoline, a new air pollution fight is emerging around the
globe over how much sulfur to allow in fuel. Rapidly developing
countries like China, India, Thailand, Mexico and Brazil, where
ownership and use of cars and trucks is soaring, are on the front lines.
High levels of sulfur contamination occur naturally in some crude oil,
especially from the Mideast and Russia. This sour oil is ordinarily
harder to sell and fetches a lower price than sweet low-sulfur crude,
because it is more difficult to refine and because environmental laws in
the United States and Europe already impose tight ceilings on sulfur in
fuel, limits that are set to grow still tighter over the next decade.
But this year, oil producers are pumping and selling all the oil they
can to meet surging demand, and the extra oil they are able to bring to
market is, to a great extent, high in sulfur. With sweet crude
commanding the highest prices, many refineries in China and elsewhere
are buying cheaper sour crude, and turning it into fuels that may
contain many times more sulfur than the gasoline and diesel sold in the
United States or Europe.
Environmentalists call sulfur the world's biggest single contributor to
air pollution. It forms noxious gases like sulfur oxides, and it causes
diesel engines to spew more soot. And high-sulfur fuel quickly ruins the
catalytic converters installed on new gasoline-powered cars, defeating
one of the main efforts in countries like China to cut down on the harm
that vehicles do to air quality.
Sulfur is definitely the lead of the future, said Robert Cox, the
fuels manager at the International Petroleum Industry Environmental
Conservation Association, a London-based trade group supported by oil
companies.
The oil industry has called on automakers to develop new catalytic
converters that are more sulfur tolerant, while acknowledging that
sulfur is a significant problem, especially in developing countries with
limited budgets. Mr. Cox said that in September or October the trade
association would issue its recommendations for what levels of sulfur
are attainable for countries at various levels of economic development,
adding that sulfur has got to be the next issue.
The problem is especially acute in China, where car sales have been
rising by close to 80 percent a year, creating huge traffic jams and
contributing to some of the world's worst air pollution. At the same
time, Chinese refineries have emerged as the world's most aggressive
buyers of high-sulfur crude oil.
They really need to ratchet down very quickly on their emissions
standards, or their cities are going to become unbearable, said Michael
P. Walsh, a former top American air-quality regulator who now works as a
consultant to the Chinese government and other developing countries on
air-quality issues.
full: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/26/business/worldbusiness/26sulfur.html


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don't do it.

2004-06-26 Thread Devine, James
whatever you do, don't answer the on-line poll (with all the red/white/blue colors) 
about whether or not the US should pull out of Iraq. You'll get much more spam if you 
do.
jd



Democrats and George Soros operatives in the thick of Venezuela counter-revolution

2004-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch Weekend Edition
June 26/27, 2004
Venezuela: the Gang's All Here
Replay of Chile and Nicaragua?
By ALEXANDER COCKBURN
You can set your watch by it. The minute some halfway decent government 
in Latin America begins to reverse the order of things and give the 
have-nots a break from the grind of poverty and wretchedness, the usual 
suspects in El Norte rouse themselves from the slumber of indifference 
and start barking furiously about democratic norms. It happened in 1973 
in Chile; we saw it again in Nicaragua in the 1980s; and heres the same 
show on summer rerun in Venezuela, pending the August 15 recall 
referendum of President Hugo Chvez.

Chvez is the best thing that has happened to Venezuelas poor in a very 
long time. His government has actually delivered on some of its 
promises, with improved literacy rates and more students getting school 
meals. Public spending has quadrupled on education and tripled on 
healthcare, and infant mortality has declined. The government is 
promoting one of the most ambitious land-reform programs seen in Latin 
America in decades.

Most of this has been done under conditions of economic sabotage. Oil 
strikes, a coup attempt and capital flight have resulted in about a 4 
percent decline in GDP for the five years that Chvez has been in 
office. But the economy is growing at close to 12 percent this year, and 
with world oil prices near $40 a barrel, the government has extra 
billions that its using for social programs. So naturally the United 
States wants him out, just as the rich in Venezuela do. Chvez was 
re-elected in 2000 for a six-year term. A US-backed coup against him was 
badly botched in 2002.

The imperial script calls for a human rights organization to start 
braying about irregularities by their intended victim. And yes, heres 
Jos Miguel Vivanco of Human Rights Watch. We last met him in this 
column helping to ease a $1.7 billion US aid package for Colombias 
military apparatus. This time hes holding a press conference in 
Caracas, hollering about the brazen way Chvez is trying to expand 
membership of Venezuelas Supreme Court, the same way FDR did, and for 
the same reason: that the Venezuelan court has been effectively packed 
the other way for decades, with judicial flunkies of the rich. I dont 
recall Vivanco holding too many press conferences to protest that 
perennial iniquity.

The international observers recruited to save the rich traditionally 
include the Organization of American States and the Carter Center; in 
the case of the Venezuelan recall they have mustered dead on schedule. 
On behalf of the opposition, they exerted enormous pressure on the 
countrys independent National Electoral Council during the 
signature-gathering and verification process. Eventually the head of the 
OAS mission had to be replaced by the OAS secretary general because of 
his unacceptable public statements.

The Carter Centers team is headed by Jennifer McCoy, whose forthcoming 
book, The Unraveling of Representative Democracy in Venezuela, leans 
heavily against the government. One of its contributors is Jos Antonio 
Gil of the Datanalysis Polling Firm, most often cited for US media 
analysis. The Los Angeles Times quoted Gil on what to do: And he can 
see only one way out of the political crisis surrounding President Hugo 
Chvez. He has to be killed, he said, using his finger to stab the 
table in his office far above this capitals filthy streets. He has to 
be killed.

Media manipulation is an essential part of the script, and here, right 
on cue, comes Bill Clintons erstwhile pollster, Stan Greenberg, still a 
leading Democratic Party strategist. Greenberg is under contract to 
RCTV, one of the right-wing media companies leading the Venezuelan 
opposition and recall effort. Its a pollsters dream job. Not only does 
he have enormous resources against an old-fashioned, politically 
unsophisticated poor peoples movement, but his firm has something 
comrades back home can only fantasize about: control over the Venezuelan 
media. Imagine if the right wing controlled almost the entire media 
during Clintons impeachment.

full: http://www.counterpunch.org/
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Marxism list: www.marxmail.org


Re: Print versus web publishing

2004-06-26 Thread Carrol Cox
Louis Proyect wrote:
 
 One form of communication has enormously democratic implications while
 the other serves as an elitist club open only to those who have been
 accepted into the priesthood. In Gutenberg's day, it was the Catholic
 church. Today it is tenured academia.)
 
 ---
 
 NY Times, June 26, 2004

 The journal Dr. Nicolelis chose — PLoS Biology, a publication
 of the Public Library of Science — aims to do just that by putting
 peer-reviewed scientific papers online free, at the Web site
 www.plosbiology.org.

Still PEER-reviewed. That is, still dominated by tenured faculty.

The internet is having a great impact, but what Lou describes here is
something happening within tenured academia. Tenure (unless something
else than the internet impacts it) will continue to be based on
_peer-reviewed_ publication. What is different is that the publications
of tenured faculty will have a (potentially) widened circulation.

There is one possibility I see in the social sciences and humanities.
There are too damn many scholarly books being published. Web publication
would put  the emphasis where it ought to be, on articles. In the
physical and biological sciences the emphasis always has been on
articles rather than books, so I don't see web publication making any
great difference there in the structure of academia.

Carrol



An exchange with Joel Kovel

2004-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect
(Joel's reply appears in its entirety. My comments are interspersed.)
joel kovel wrote:
 Hi Louis,

 Bushism is a term used on a number of occasions by Howie Hawkins--with
 whom I have worked a lot in the past--to describe the identity 
between the
 mainstream parties. I absolutely agree that both parties share equal
 responsibility for imperialism, for perfectly transparent 
reasons--and as I
 have said on a number of occasions, for that reason I would never support
 Kerry. (For example, recently asked to join a group called Greens for 
Kerry,
 I refused, stating: I cannot lend my name to any support for Kerry 
so long
 as his views are those of imperialism and the reflex support of Ariel
 Sharon.) I also agree with your paragraph on how fundamental imperialism
 is.

But Joel, anybody who reads your article will be reminded of how the 
Daily Worker used to get people to vote for the Democrats. You never 
actually saw them specifically instruct people to vote for LBJ or Jimmy 
Carter. But with the torrent of words about how the Republicans were 
qualitatively different from the Democrats and objectively fascist, 
etc., anybody would get the message. You just have to connect the dots.

 However, I reject the identity theory of the major bourgeois parties. 
This
 is only Marxist in the vulgar sense of the term, which argues 
reductively by
 replacing concrete analysis wth reified categories. It's as if 
Gramsci never
 existed, calling us to look at the real fabric of things rather than 
relying
 on reflex invocation of economistic laws. Certainly this would include
 incorporating the social bases of parties and their legitimation 
strategies
 rather than resorting over and over again to their ruling class 
loyalities

Of course the parties are different. If the Democrats ran Zell Miller, 
the nitwit Senator from Georgia who goes on the Don Imus show to blast 
his own party, there would be such outrage that the system would risk 
collapse. This is not Coke and Pepsi we are talking about after all. The 
 Democrats include many good people in their ranks like the late Paul 
Wellstone, the late Ted Weiss in NYC, et al. In many ways, their 
politics is the same as the Green Party's--heart-felt progressivism and 
anti-corporatism. The difference, however, is not in program but in the 
refusal to help preserve a *system* that underpins capitalism. At the 
risk of being tedious, I would like to repeat a point I already made. 
Chattel slavery relied on a kind of 2-party system as well. The 
Democrats (the same party as today) were adamantly pro-slavery. The 
Whigs were critical of the abuses of the slave masters but would not 
call for the abolition of the system. Any initiative that challenged 
this duopoly should have been encouraged--like the Free Soil Party. At 
this point in American history, we should be encouraging challenges to 
the 2-party system based on wage slavery, no matter the faults of 
individual candidates like Ralph Nader.

 There are deep and complex reasons why this country has slid so far 
to the
 right in recent decades--which I can't take up here--but the Republicans
 have been able to exploit them while the Democrats play catch up and 
suffer
 from a permanent case of bad faith. Christian fundamentalism has 
become the
 ideological linchpin of the Republicans, and it grows with the unending
 social and economic crises of capital. I see Bushism (though I would 
never
 use the term as such) as the specific fusion in the Bush administration
 between big oil capital and the religious right. I suspect that W. 
will be
 dumped by the ruling class this time around because he has made such a
 disaster of Iraq; but the structural problems remain. No one can say with
 certainty that the Bushites will further institutionalize theocratic 
fascism
 if he prevails in November, but no one can deny this as a real 
possibility.

Hate to sound like a Trotskyite brontosaurus, Joel, but I don't think 
that fascism is a threat in the USA as long as the working class is 
quiescent. To suspend elections and the bill of rights in the face of 
massive resignation to the current state of affairs would be an 
overreaction on the part of the ruling class. They are much smarter than 
that. Fascism is a system of last resort. It is tremendously expensive 
since it relies on a beefed up security force to keep track of the 
citizenry. It is also politically risky since it poses the question of 
armed struggle, the only possible way to overthrow totalitarian rule. 
You'll notive how ineffective attempts have been to stop Farenheit 911 
in its tracks. If we were anywhere near fascism, this film would have 
been quashed before it ever finished being filmed.


 If Nader were offering a real alternative, I would say it's worth the 
risk.
 But I don't see that he does. He may give that impression because of his
 charisma, but that's a very dangerous trap to fall into and it does no
 credit to otherwise sophisticated leftists to 

New books from Merlin Press

2004-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect
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CONTENT - Forewords - Section 1: Antecedents: Critical Perspectives - 

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Daniel Davies
s. artesian wrote:

Then comes the advice about doing the right thing in the international debt
markets and
taking positions (long?  short?) in Venezuelan debt.  That's a real thing
of beauty by the
way.

That was me (btw, I don't believe I've ever claimed to be a Marxist, though
I reserve the right to do so in future if I want to)

I'm a bit tied up with family matters at the moment, but will return to the
lists on this one early doors next week.  If you wish to prepare your
arguments, be aware that my general theme is going to be that when you agree
to lend someone money you are doing them a good turn, not a bad turn.  And
that having lent someone money, it is not /per se/ evil to hope that you
will get it back.  A friend cadged thirty quid off me to buy drinks in a
nightclub on Friday night, however, so by some standards I am already
presumably morally compromised.

cheers and good-humoured beers

dd


Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Daniel Davies
Suffice to say that, no joke, in (I think) 2002 when the 10bn lira note was introduced 
(quote from the Central Bank Governor at the time It's not exactly a proud moment 
having your name on a note with ten zeros on it, but needs must), there was a small 
but serious atempt by some members of the Turkish Parliament to get Ataturk's face 
removed from the notes, as they felt that it was sullying his memory. (In the UK, we 
had the opposite issue; until the 1950s, the Bank of England refused to put images of 
the Royal Family on banknotes, as they felt that the popularity of the royals was far 
too transient and risky to risk tarnishing their own brand with).

And I speak as someone who does have a couple of lira-denominated instruments (IIRC, 
the equity shares of Turkiye Is Bankasi) in my retirement fund.  Turkey is a classic 
example of the neo-liberal orthodoxy not working.  In the last ten years I have been 
asked to produce disaster scenarios for the eventuality of a Turkish economic 
collapse on no fewer than three occasions.  It hasn't happened yet.  I personally 
don't think that it will.  The secret to the Turkish economy's astounding ability to 
muddle through, IMO, is that the banks are, for the most part, owned by powerful 
industrial groups which are themselves profitable.  This means that 1) the banks can 
be recapitalised by the families which own them, which is intrinisically more stable 
than having their ownership dispersed and 2) the economy as a whole is nothing like as 
exposed to fluctuations in the market's views of the Turkish economy, as the source of 
working capital for the commanding heights of the Turkish economy is a banking system 
largely controlled by its main customers.  Turkey is in the process of bringing in 
Western style corporate governance, and as soon as I think they are about to achieve 
it I will run a mile.

best,

dd

-Original Message-
From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Devine,
James
Sent: 26 June 2004 01:03
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Marxist Financial Advice


I won't ask how much 20 million Turkish Liras are worth but I'm going to diversify 
by putting my assets into gin _and_ tonic or scotch _and_ soda.
jd

--



Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread sartesian
1. We are not talking about personal favors, good deeds, doing friends a
solid, or picking up a bar tab.  We are talking about capitalist
accummulation.   That's not an exactly subtle distinction.

Let me know how you feel when you invest your retirement savings in
Venezuelean bonds, and a revolutionary government decides to auto-cancel its
debt.

2. In the meantime, much is being presented about  sovereignty and
self-determination, and national liberation.   Some view the formulas of
the past as sufficient and final.   Some even go so far as to say that it
doesn't matter that the national resistance of the Iraqis has nothing to
do with socialism,  and present that as a Marxist position.

I think it is critical to apply a little Marxist analysis internally, to the
positions developed a hundred or so years ago about national liberation and
sovereignty, and understand how even the Marxists were not coincident with
their own history, relying on a fallback position of rights rather than
a class analysis of the actual determinants of struggles for national
liberation.

In a nutshell, the resistance in Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with
national liberation and self-determination, but is triggered by capital's
need for destruction-- and as such the resistance has everything to do with
socialism-- and to be successful must put forward that thing that
distinguishes revolutionists from all others-- a revolutionary program.

The struggle for national liberation did not arise in the past 150 years
separate and apart from critical moments in the conflict between the means
and relations of production, and consequently the notion of oppressed
peoples is put forward at the moment as people is archaic, is
transforming itself into class.

This does not mean that we do not defend resistance struggles because
organizations involved are not communist.  It does mean that we do identify
the driving forces, provide a concrete analysis, and not subjugate a
radical Marxists analysis to blanket terms, umbrellas of national
liberation which obscure the class differentiation, and struggle, at the
heart of the resistance.

So, for those like myself, interested in disturbing the environment.

  http://thewolfatthedoor.blogspot.com

- Original Message -
From: Daniel Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Marxist Fianancial Advice


 s. artesian wrote:

 Then comes the advice about doing the right thing in the international
debt
 markets and
 taking positions (long?  short?) in Venezuelan debt.  That's a real thing
 of beauty by the
 way.

 That was me (btw, I don't believe I've ever claimed to be a Marxist,
though
 I reserve the right to do so in future if I want to)

 I'm a bit tied up with family matters at the moment, but will return to
the
 lists on this one early doors next week.  If you wish to prepare your
 arguments, be aware that my general theme is going to be that when you
agree
 to lend someone money you are doing them a good turn, not a bad turn.  And
 that having lent someone money, it is not /per se/ evil to hope that you
 will get it back.  A friend cadged thirty quid off me to buy drinks in a
 nightclub on Friday night, however, so by some standards I am already
 presumably morally compromised.

 cheers and good-humoured beers

 dd


Re: Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

2004-06-26 Thread Michael Perelman
I agree that it is more complicated, but I can't see why Putin's approach gives a
more satisfactory explanation.  When I was in France, they had terrorist attacks
quite frequently -- 1979 -- but the French both repressed AND accomodated resistence
forces.  France is not great, but it seems a step ahead of what the US does  what I
see Putin as doing.

Do you think that Putin could do better?


On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 05:06:12PM +0400, Chris Doss wrote:
 That is my whole point. Things are a lot more complicated than just evil Russian 
 imperialists attacking noble Chechen freedom-fighters.

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 04:44:44 -0700
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- intro and part one

 
  Chris, there are no easy answers.  Engels once said that the worst time for a bad
  government is when it first tries to do something good.
 

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu


Re: Chat about Financial Advice, was Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Carrol Cox wrote:
Let's remember that very few if any of the subscribers to this list have
much in the way of discretionary investment.
How do you know? A lot of PEN-Lers are professors with retirement
accounts that invest in stocks and bonds. Many, maybe most, are in
the upper quintile of their national income distribution. Even the
righteous S.artesian probably has a pension from the railroad. So
these aren't just idle theoretical speculations.
Doug


Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote:
I said that the superficial stuff of volume III
I missed this. What's superficial in v 3?
Doug


Re: Chat about Financial Advice, was Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread sartesian
I am not righteous.  I put two daughters through college.  I know a lot
about investing-- none of it has anything to do with Marxism.

Nobody's against pensions.  Railroad pensions, for your edification, are not
self-direct investments.  They are defined benefit plans.

My only point was that Marxist financial advice re investing is an oxymoron.
Real Marxist financial advise would be limited to seize the banks, cancel
the debt.


- Original Message -
From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Chat about Financial Advice, was Re: Marxist Financial
Advice


 Carrol Cox wrote:

 Let's remember that very few if any of the subscribers to this list have
 much in the way of discretionary investment.

 How do you know? A lot of PEN-Lers are professors with retirement
 accounts that invest in stocks and bonds. Many, maybe most, are in
 the upper quintile of their national income distribution. Even the
 righteous S.artesian probably has a pension from the railroad. So
 these aren't just idle theoretical speculations.

 Doug


Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2



In a message dated 6/26/2004 12:17:19 PM Central Standard 
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The 
  struggle for "national liberation" did not arise in the past 150 
  yearsseparate and apart from critical moments in the conflict between the 
  means and relations of production, and consequently the notion of "oppressed 
  peoples" is put forward at the moment as "people" is archaic, is transforming 
  itself into class.This does not mean that we do not defend resistance 
  struggles because organizations involved are not communist. It does mean 
  that we do identify the driving forces, provide a concrete analysis, and not 
  subjugate a "radical" Marxists analysis to blanket terms, umbrellas of 
  national liberation which obscure the class differentiation, and struggle, at 
  the heart of the resistance.

Reply

Marxists finaical advice as distinct from financial advice 
from a Marxist is interesting. First things first. 

My insistence that the doctrine of Leninism is obsolete does 
not meaning throwing out Lenin's method or approach to concrete political 
phenomenon. The above is my basic position and one should look at the world in 
which they like and act. Iraq most certainly is not a national liberation 
struggle. whcih refers to a political category of history that no longer exists. 


The division of the world amongst imperial powers and the 
redivision and redivision of the redivsion long ago overrode the period of 
history Lenin and the communists and socialist of his time called the national 
movement. To accomodate this change in the economic and political relations of 
the world communist began to speak of the national-colonial movements because an 
era of history emerged - after the First Imperial War, where no one could really 
speak of a national movement that was not a question of the fight against the 
direct colonial system. 

The slogan of that era was Workers and Oppressed Peoples 
Unite. This would seem rather clear to anyone that studied the program of the 
Russian communists and their impact in the Third International. 

In other words national movement belong to a period of history 
during an era of transition from agricultural relations to bourgeois commodity 
production during a period of transition from manufacture to industry, when 
various peoples are undergoing economic transition and the bourgeoisie and petty 
bourgeois are fighting to establish their "national market" and state to protect 
their economic independence from more powerful states. 

The period of the national colonial revolts by definition 
indicates that the previous era of national movements had resulted in the defeat 
of lesser economjcally developed peoples and nations. Consquently those defeated 
are drawn into the orbit of the direct colonial system (in the main 
because development in the Western Hemisphere was somewhat different) and the 
national question became a question of colonialism at the hands of bourgeois 
property. 

In the second period of the reformulation of the national 
question the political polarity that was Soviet Power and bourgeois imperialism 
existed and in theory the more than less petty bourgeois masses could be won 
over to an alliance with Soviets as a political strategy to weaken imperialism 
by fighting for its economic and political reserves - sources of manpower and 
raw materialism. 

In this sense Lenin spoke of communists not imposing their/our 
ideology, doctrine and program on the petty bourgeois colonial masses. At the 
same time our common sense training as communists taught us that their can be no 
such thing as inpendence from imperialism without the overthrown of domestic 
capital as a property relations interlocked with world bnourgeois property. 


The national colonial question further evolved in the post 
Second World Imperial war era and proved conclusively that it is an act of 
political insanity or rather bourgeois logic to speak of independence from 
imperialism without flat out proletarian revolution and all the talk about the 
Third World and Third Way has revealed itself to be no more than the striving of 
petty capitalist seeking their place in the sun. 

This period of the national colonial revolts came to an end in 
terms of the political and economic logic of the American Union with the 1965 
Watts Rebellion and then 1967 Detroit which began a material separation of the 
black workers from their own bourgeoisie. On the world stage the victory of the 
Vietnamese revolution is probably a recognizable juncture for revolutionaries 
world wide. 

The treachery of the Soviet leaders is not the issue but 
rather the political meaning of self determination which lost it real political 
importance as a weapon of the proletariat as the material results of the First 
Imperial World War. Workers and Oppressed People of the World Unite is a class 
formulation that subordinates self determination to Workers as a class 
alignment. 

In this current era of the 

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Devine, James
it's only superficial in Marx's framework. (Note that I put it quotes.) To use 
somewhat non-Marxian termionology, he saw the volume I stuff as essential (the 
source of surplus-value, the big picture) and the volume II stuff as more superficial. 
Put another way, if you understand volume I alone, you understand his world-view 
concerning capitalism, but if you look at volume III alone, you get pretty standard 
economics for his time. My view is that vol. I is abstract, while vol. III is more 
concrete and that both are needed.
jd

-Original Message- 
From: PEN-L list on behalf of Doug Henwood 
Sent: Sat 6/26/2004 11:06 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Marxist Fianancial Advice



Devine, James wrote:

I said that the superficial stuff of volume III

I missed this. What's superficial in v 3?

Doug





Re: Chat about Financial Advice, was Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Devine, James
sartesian writes: I know a lot about investing-- none of it has anything to do with 
Marxism.

for what it's worth, pen-l isn't self-defined as Marxist. 

I'm also not sure that Marxist financial advice is necessarily oxymoronic. There may 
be some stuff in the volume III discussion of money and finance that says something 
different that might be relevant to personal finance, though I doubt it. 

jd 




Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice/ Henry C.K. on Money

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2



There are fundamental faults with specie money. To begin 
with, specie money must be based on a commodity of limited supply. There was a 
time when new gold was discovered so abundantly in the New World that gold was 
the cause of inflation in Europe. Thus an effective specie money by nature 
cannot support optimum economic growth, because its function is to preserve the 
value of money. In a high growth economy, such as most modern economies aspire 
to be, the limited supply of gold cannot meet the necessary monetary expansion, 
thus gold backed money will be deflationary and counter growth. In real terms, 
if the dollar were to be gold backed today, it would have to be valued at 
$35,000 per once. Two things will immediately happen: the equity market will 
fall in price by 100 fold with the DOW at 80, and Russia and other gold 
producers will instantly emerged as new superpowers.Money is not a 
storer of value, it does not need to have any intrinsic value at all to be 
accepted. Gold coins circulated only in markets beyond the political influence 
of the currency issuer. Minsky is correct that money is created whenever credit 
is granted. Thus anyone can create money while legal tender can only be issued 
by government. Capitalism is a game for those who has capital. Under capitalism, 
money is a unit of account of capital. Before capitalism, taxes were paid with 
agricultural produce, livestock and textile under feudalism. Under capitalism, 
money is not the root of all evil, but the lack of it is. The challenge of the 
capitalist regime is to deliver money to as many of the population as possible 
without debasing the value of money or causing inflation. This logic was 
operative under industrial capitalism, because capital then performed a function 
of increasing the productivity of labor. But this function had a limited 
lifespan. Capital formation soon reduced labor's share of the wealth created by 
increased productivity to the point of retarding the growth of aggregate demand 
to keep abreast of productive capacity. Marx's insight of surplus value being 
the cancer of capitalism is based on this cause-effect. The purpose of 
government are two fold: 

1: to prevent revolution (the overthrow of government) and 

2: to institute policies that deliver money to the population 
through employment in the non-government sector (not necessarily private). This 
is done by granting credit (a form of money creation) to the economy through 
government debt which in turn is serviced by taxes. When a government runs a 
budget surplus, it is essentially draining credit from the economy, thus slowing 
it down. When government desires a growth economy, it has no business running a 
surplus. The tax rate is not a critical as long as tax revenue is not used to 
reduce the national debt. A high tax rate, provided it is not confiscatory, will 
lead to a more dynamic economy because capital cannot afford to be idle and 
enjoy gain merely from passive investment. A government deficit is a way of 
correcting market failure, by government spending on parts of the economy that 
the market ignores, such as health, education, infrastructure, pollution control 
and environmental protection, security and research with no short term profit. 
Any government that incurs foreign currency sovereign debt should be impeached. 
The IMF notion of austerity conditionality of increasing unemployment to service 
foreign currency government debt is self defeatingly irrational. Full employment 
with high wages strengthens sovereign credit rating through high demand in an 
overproduction economy to generate needed tax revenue. There is no positive 
policy effect in pursuing unemployment and tax reduction, the darlings of 
supply-siders.The Austrian School formulated their precepts during a 
very peculiar period ofEuropean history, the hyperinflation periods 
following the two World Wars. It preyed on US phobia against revolution by 
promoting a fear of hyperinflation. The Austrians propose sound money and free 
markets as a deterrent against revolution, but they want to achieve it by making 
money scarce and by shutting off all unprofitable economic activities. This 
creates widespread poverty which leads directly to revolution. Money is more 
valuable when more people have more of it, not the other way around. End of 
post.Government bonds are debts, because the selling of bonds soaks up 
money (sovereign credit) from circulation. Money is sovereign credit 
because it soaks up sovereign or private debt when used to buy bonds (debt) and 
inject credit into the financial system. Sovereign debt is never needed to 
finance domestic development, which can be financed with sovereign credit. 
Government issues sovereign credit so that a private debt market can work 
without specie money. Sovereign credit is the benchmark of all credit 
ratings. Swapping of bonds is a common practice in finance, particularly in 
structured finance where a bond 

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice/ Henry C.K. on Money - 2

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2



The Foreign Capital HoaxThe Chartalist theory of 
money claims that government, by virtual of its power to levy taxes payable with 
government-designated legal tender, does not need external financing. 
Accordingly, sovereign credit should enable the government to act as employer of 
last resort to maintain full employment even in a regulated market economy. The 
logic of Chartalism reasons that an excessively low tax rate will result in a 
low demand for currency and that a chronic government budget surplus is 
economically counterproductive and unsustainable because it drains credit from 
the economy. The colonial administration in British Africa learned that land 
taxes were instrumental in inducing the carefree natives into using its currency 
and engaging in financial productivity.Thus, according to Chartalist 
theory, an economy can finance its domestic developmental needs, to achieve full 
employment and maximize balanced growth with prosperity without any need for 
sovereign debt or foreign loans or investment, and without the penalty of 
hyperinflation. But Chartalist theory is operative only in closed domestic 
monetary regimes. Countries participating in neo-liberal international free 
trade under the aegis of unregulated global financial and currency markets, 
cannot operate on Chartalist principles because of the foreign-exchange 
dilemma. Any government printing its own currency to finance legitimate 
domestic needs beyond the size of its foreign-exchange reserves will soon find 
its currency under attack in the foreign-exchange markets, regardless of whether 
the currency is pegged at a fixed exchanged rate to another currency, or is 
free-floating. Thus all non-dollar economies are forced to attract foreign 
capital in dollar to meet domestic needs. But countries must accumulate 
dollars before they can attract foreign capital. Even then, with capital 
control, foreign capital will only invest in the export sector where dollar 
revenue can be earned. But the dollars that accumulate from trade 
surpluses can only be invested in dollar assets in the United States, depriving 
local economies of needed capital. The only protection from such attacks on 
domestic currency is to suspend full convertibility, which then will keep 
foreign investment away. Thus dollar hegemony starves the non-dollar 
economies of needed capital by depriving their governments of the power to issue 
sovereign credit domestically.Precisely to prevent such currency 
attacks, tight control on the international flow of capital was instituted by 
the Bretton Woods system of fixed exchange rates pegged to a gold-backed dollar 
at $35 per ounce after World War II. Drawing lessons from the prewar 1930s 
Depression, economics thinking prevalent immediately after WWII had deemed 
international capital flow undesirable and unnecessary. Trade, a 
relatively small aspect of most national economies, was to be mediated through 
fixed exchange rates pegged to a gold-backed dollar. The fixed exchange rates 
were to be adjusted only gradually and periodically to reflect the relative 
strength of the participating economies. The impact of exchange rates were 
limited to the finance of international trade, and was not expect to dictate 
domestic monetary policy, which was crucial to domestic development and regarded 
as the province of national autonomy.Under principles of 
Chartalism, foreign capital serves no useful domestic purpose outside of an 
imperialistic agenda. Thus dollar hegemony essentially taxes away the ability of 
the trading partners of the United States to finance their own domestic 
development in their own currencies, and forces them to seek foreign loans and 
investment denominated in dollars, which the US, and only the US, can print at 
will.The Mundell-Fleming thesis, for which Robert Mundell won the 1999 
Nobel Prize, states that in international finance, a government has the choice 
between (1) stable exchange rates, (2) international capital mobility and (3) 
domestic policy autonomy (full employment/low interest rates, counter-cyclical 
fiscal spending, etc). With unregulated global financial markets, a government 
can have only two of the three options.Through dollar hegemony, the 
United States is the only country that can defy the Mundell-Fleming 
thesis. For more than a decade since the end of the Cold War, the US has 
kept the fiat dollar significantly above its real economic value, attracted 
capital account surpluses and exercised unilateral policy autonomy within a 
globalized financial system dictated by dollar hegemony. The reasons for this 
are complex but the single most important reason is that all major commodities, 
most notably oil, are denominated in dollars, mostly as an extension of 
superpower geopolitics. This fact is the anchor for dollar hegemony. Thus dollar 
hegemony makes possible US finance hegemony, which makes possible US 
exceptionism and unilateralism.The Foreign Exchange 

Re: Marxist Fianancial Advice/ Henry C.K. on Money - 3 - end

2004-06-26 Thread Waistline2




Sovereign Credit 
(Part 1)
By Henry C.K. Liu
Credit drives the 
economy, not debt. Debt is the mirror reflection of credit. 
Even the most accurate mirror does violence to the symmetry of its reflection. 
Why does a mirror turn an image right to left and not upside down as the lens of 
a camera does? The scientific answer is that a mirror image transforms front to 
back rather than left to right as commonly assumed. Yet we often accept this 
aberrant mirror distortion as uncolored truth and we unthinkingly consider the 
distorted reflection in the mirror as a perfect representation. In the 
language of economics, credit and debt are opposites but not the 
same. In fact, credit and debt operate in reverse relations. 
Credit requires a positive net worth and debt does not. One can have good credit 
and no debt. High debt lowers credit rating. When one understands credit, one 
understands the main force behind the modern economy, which is driven by credit 
and stalled by debt. Behaviorally, debt distorts marginal 
utility calculations and rearranges disposable income. Debt turns corporate 
shares into Giffen goods, demand for which increases when their prices go up, 
and creates what US Federal Reserve Board Chairman Alan Greenspan calls 
"irrational exuberance," the economic man gone mad. 


Most monetary economists view government-issued 
money as a sovereign debt instrument with zero maturity, historically derived 
from the bill of exchange in free banking. This view is valid 
for specie money, which is a debt certificate that can claim on demand a 
prescribed amount of gold or other specie of value. 
Government-issued fiat money is not a sovereign debt but a sovereign 
credit instrument. Sovereign government bonds are sovereign 
debt while local government bonds are institutional debt, but not sovereign debt 
because local governments cannot print money. When money buys 
bonds, the transaction represents credit canceling debt. The 
relationship is rather straightforward, but of fundamental 
importance.

If fiat money is not sovereign debt, then the 
entire conceptual structure of finance capitalism is subject to reordering, just 
as physics was subject to reordering when man's worldview changed with the 
realization that the earth is not stationary nor is it the center of the 
universe. For one thing, the need for capital formation for 
socially useful development will be exposed as a cruel hoax. 
With sovereign credit, there is no need for capital formation for 
socially useful development. For another, private savings are 
not necessary to finance socio-economic development, since private savings are 
not required for the supply of sovereign credit. Sovereign 
credit can finance an economy in which unemployment is unknown, and wages 
constantly rising. A vibrant economy is one in which there is 
labor shortage. Private savings are needed only for private 
investment that has no intrinsic social purpose or value. 
Savings without full employment are deflationary, as savings reduces 
current consumption to provide investment to increase future supply. 
Say's Law of supply creating its own demand is a very special situation 
that is operative only under full employment. Say's Law 
ignores a critical time lag between supply and demand that can be fatal to a 
fast moving modern economy. Savings require interest 
payments, the compounding of which will regressively make any financial system 
unsustainable. The religions forbade usury for very practical 
reasons.

Fiat money issued by government is now legal 
tender in all modern national economies since the collapse of the Bretton Woods 
regime of fixed exchange rates linked to a gold-backed dollar in 
1971. The State Theory of Money (Chartalism) holds that the 
general acceptance of government-issued fiat currency rests fundamentally on 
government's authority to tax. Government's willingness to 
accept the currency it issues for payment of taxes gives such issuance currency 
within a national economy. That currency is sovereign credit 
for tax liabilities, which are dischargeable by credit instruments issued by 
government in the form of money. When issuing fiat money, the 
government owes no one anything except to make good a promise to accept its 
money for tax payment. A central banking regime operates on 
the notion of government-issued fiat money as sovereign credit. 


Thomas Jefferson prophesied: "If the American 
people allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by 
inflation, and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up 
around them will deprive people of all property until their children will wake 
up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied ... The issuing power of 
money should be taken from the banks and restored to Congress and the people to 
whom it belongs." This warning applies to the people of 
the world as well. (759 words)

Sovereign Credit (Part II)

By Henry C.K. Liu

Government 

Re: Chat about Financial Advice, was Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread sartesian
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From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Chat about Financial Advice, was Re: Marxist Financial
Advice


 sartesian writes: I know a lot about investing-- none of it has anything
to do with Marxism.

 for what it's worth, pen-l isn't self-defined as Marxist.
_

Really?  There's a graphic of Marx on the home page.  The query that
triggered this all was for Marxist Fianancial Advice.


 I'm also not sure that Marxist financial advice is necessarily
oxymoronic. There may be some stuff in the volume III discussion of money
and finance that says something different that might be relevant to personal
finance, though I doubt it.


Nothing I've read in Vol. 3 can be considered advice for investors.

 jd




nader to moore

2004-06-26 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: nader to moore


Ralph Nader letter to Michael Moore:

http://www.votenader.org/why_ralph/index.php?cid=54



Re: Lenin in his tomb

2004-06-26 Thread Laurence Shute
Chris Doss wrote:
I wish they would follow his wishes. he wanted to be buried or
cremated, I forget which. I doubt that anyone wants to be put on permanent
display...
jd
---
It's a political decision. It was outrage a lot of conservatives (in the
Russian sense of the word). Most people think he should be buried and the
mausoleum turned into a museum.
Wasn't putting Stalin into the mausoleum alongside Lenin the former's
decision? He was in there a few years (now he's about 20 meters away).
Years ago (1960s), we used to joke that socialism would begin coming to the
USSR when Lenin was buried and Stalin put in a tomb on display.  In the
1950s, we just argued that Lenin should be buried/cremated.
Larry Shute


When Marx played the stock market

2004-06-26 Thread Louis Proyect
From Francis Wheen's new biography Karl Marx: a Life (W. W. Norton, 
2000):

The annual rent for Modena Villas was 65 almost twice that of Grafton 
Terrace. Quite how Marx expected to pay for all luxury is a mystery: as 
so often, however, his Micawberish faith was vindicated. On 9 May 1864 
Wilhelm Lupus Wolff died of meningitis, bequeathing all my books 
furniture and effects debts and moneys owning to me and all the residue 
of my person estate and also all real and leasehold estates of which I 
may seized possessed or entitled or of which I may have power dispose by 
this my Will unto and to the use of the said K Marx. Wolff was one of 
the few old campaigners from the 1840s who never wavered in his 
allegiance to Marx and Engels. He worked with them in Brussels on the 
Communist Correspondence Committee, in Paris at the 1848 revolution and 
in Cologne when Marx was editing the Neue Rheinishe Zeitung. From 1853 
he lived quietly in Manchester, earning his living as a language teacher 
and relying largely on Engels to keep him up to date with political 
news. I dont believe anyone in Manchester can have been universally 
beloved as our poor little friend, Karl wrote to Jenny after delivering 
the funeral oration, during which he broke down several times.

As executors of the will, Marx and Engels were amazed to discover that 
modest old Lupus had accumulated a small fortune through hard work and 
thrift. Even after deducting funeral expenses, estate duty, a 100 
bequest for Engels and another 100 for Wolffs doctor Louis Borchardt  
much to Marxs annoyance, since he held this bombastic bungler 
responsible for the death  there was a residue of 820 for the main 
legatee. This was far more than Marx had ever earned from his writing, 
and explains why the first volume of Capital (published three years 
later) carries a dedication to my unforgettable friend Wilhelm Wolff, 
intrepid, faithful, noble protagonist of the proletariat, rather than 
the more obvious and worthy candidate, Friedrich Engels.

The Marxes wasted no time in spending their windfall. Jenny had the new 
house furnished and redecorated, explaining that I thought it better to 
put the money to this use rather than to fritter it away piecemeal on 
trifles. Pets were bought for the children (three dogs, two cats, two 
birds) and named after Karls favourite tipples, including Whisky and 
Toddy In July he took the family on vacation to Ramsgate for three 
weeks, though the eruption of a malignant carbuncle just above the penis 
rather spoiled the fun, leaving him confined to bed at their guest-house 
in a misanthropic sulk. Your philistine on the spree lords it here as 
do, to an even greater extent, his better half and his female 
offspring, he noted, gazing enviously through his window at the beach. 
It is almost sad to see venerable Oceanus, that age-old Titan, having 
to suffer these pygmies to disport themselves on his phiz, and serve 
them for entertainment. The boils had replaced the bailiffs as his main 
source of irritation. Mostly, however, he dispatched them with the same 
careless contempt. That autumn he held a grand ball at Modena Villas for 
Jennychen and Laura, who had spent many years declining invitations to 
parties for fear that they would be unable to reciprocate. Fifty of 
their young friends were entertained until four in the morning, and so 
much food was left over little Tussy was allowed to have an impromptu 
tea-party for local children the following day.

Writing to Lion Philips in the summer of 1864, Marx revealed an even 
more remarkable detail of his prosperous new way of life:

I have, which will surprise you not a little, been speculating partly 
in American funds, but more especially in English stocks, which are 
springing up like mushrooms this year (in furtherance of every 
imaginable and unimaginable joint stock enterprise) are forced up to a 
quite unreasonable level and then, for most part, collapse. In this way, 
I have made over 400 now that the complexity of the political situation 
affords greater scope, I shall begin all over again. Its a type of 
operation that makes small demands on ones time, and its worth while 
running some risk in order to relieve the enemy of his money.

Since there is no hard evidence of these transactions, some scholars 
have assumed that Marx simply invented the story to impress his 
businesslike uncle. But it may be true. He certainly kept a close eye on 
share prices, and while badgering Engels for the next payment from 
Lupuss estate he mentioned that had had the money during the past ten 
days, Id have made a killing on the Stock Exchange here. The time has 
come again when with wit and very little money, its possible to make 
money in London.

Playing the markets, hosting dinner-dances, walking his dogs in the 
park: Marx was in severe danger of becoming respectable One day a 
curious document arrived, announcing that he ha been elected, without 
his knowledge, to the 

Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I'd like one.  If you don't like me,
I'll pay the postage myself.

mbs


 By the way, as Michael pollak knows, you may even be able
to obtain a 20 Million Liras Turkish Banknote from me free of charge. I even
pay the postage. The only condition is that you have to be someone I like.

Sartesian has no hope to get that 20 Million Liras Turkish banknote from me,
for example.

Best,

Sabri


Re: Marxist Financial Advice

2004-06-26 Thread Sabri Oncu
 I'd like one.  If you don't like me,
 I'll pay the postage myself.

 mbs

Of course, I like you. There are not many I don't like but if I give this
away things may get out of control:

20,000,000 Liras is roughly $13.5 US in these days.

But I will bring you one from my trip to Turkey. I am leaving shortly and
will be back in a few weeks.

Best,

Sabri

PS: If you have my e-mail address, why don't you write to me directly? I
don't have yours.


Re: Blair in public split with Bush

2004-06-26 Thread Chris Burford
In answer to Michael's question [below] my impression is that it has
all been handled very discretely by the British government, which did
nothing to fan the controversy when the previously released detainees
gave a number of interviews.

But the Guardian article which I quoted, refers to Blair's split with
Bush on this question emerging in the course of a legal response to an
application by lawyers on behalf of some of those Brits who are still
detained, that the British government must appeal for their release.
Blair has now done this.

It is typical of New Labour to handle all these issues as purely
technical ones of social and economic engineering, and I cannot prove
that Blair is using this issue to distance himself slightly from Bush.
I think his action is multiply determined as so many things are, but I
think you can guess the background briefings behind the scenes in
which government spokepersons spread the word in studied undertones,
that, of course, the British government's position is not identical to
that of the US administration.

As for the previously released Brits I am not aware they have found a
legal opening to sue. The British government probably meets with them,
sounds very willing to help if only a way can be found, but
unfortunately cannot see a way to help in this murky legal
situation... However, of course, the British government is already to
signatory to the International Criminal Court, does uphold the
principle of the rule of international law, [while wishing to rewrite
it if you are Tony Blair] and things are moving in more accountable
direction. etc etc

Perhaps another Brit subscriber knows more or could even get their MP
to forward a well-phrased question to the Home Secretary, which is the
only way to ensure a reply.

Chris Burford
London


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 What was the response to the other released Gitmo Brits having been
accused falsely?


Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-06-26 Thread Seth Sandronsky
Hi PEN-L:
We went to see Moore's new film on June 25 in Sacramento.  All of the
400-plus seats were filled for the 12:15 p.m. showing at the Tower Theater,
the first for the public here.  Moore's latest work is a powerful critique
of the Bush White House, top Democrats and American journalism.  60
Minutes is supposed to profile Moore on Sun., June 27.
Cheers,
Seth Sandronsky
Published on Saturday, June 26, 2004 by the Associated Press
'Fahrenheit 9/11' Has Huge Opening Day
by David Germain
LOS ANGELES - Fahrenheit 9/11, Michael Moore's assault on President Bush,
took in $8.2 million to $8.4 million in its first day, positioning it as the
weekend's No. 1 film, its distributors said Saturday.
Based on Friday's numbers, Fahrenheit 9/11 was on track for an opening
weekend that would surpass the $21.6 million total gross of Moore's Bowling
for Columbine, his 2002 film that earned him an Academy Award for best
documentary.
Bowling for Columbine holds the record for highest domestic gross among
documentaries, excluding concert films and movies made for huge-screen IMAX
theaters.
Friday grosses for Fahrenheit 9/11 ran about $1.5 million ahead of its
closest competitor, the Wayans brothers comedy White Chicks. The
performance of Fahrenheit 9/11 was even more remarkable considering it
played in just 868 theaters, fewer than a third the number for White
Chicks.
Fahrenheit 9/11 benefited from a flurry of praise and condemnation.
Supporters mobilized liberal-minded audiences to see it over opening weekend
to counter efforts by some right-wing groups to discredit the film.
It always helps when there's a group out there that says, 'Don't go see
this movie. It's bad for you,' said Jonathan Sehring, president of IFC
Films, one of the film's distributors.
Fahrenheit 9/11 paints Bush as a neglectful president who ignored
terrorism warnings before Sept. 11, then stirred up fear of more attacks to
win public support for the Iraq war. The movie won the top honor at the
Cannes Film Festival in May.
The film has ridden a wave of publicity since just before Cannes, when Moore
began assailing Disney for refusing to let subsidiary Miramax release
Fahrenheit 9/11 because of its political content.
Miramax bosses Harvey and Bob Weinstein bought back the film and hooked up
with Lions Gate Films and IFC to distribute it.
The fury over Fahrenheit 9/11 resembled the firestorm created by Mel
Gibson's The Passion of the Christ, which rose to blockbuster status amid
debate over whether it was anti-Semitic.
It's like how 'The Passion of the Christ' redefined what a certain genre of
movie could do at the box office, 'Fahrenheit 9/11' is doing the same
thing, said Paul Dergarabedian, president of box-office tracker Exhibitor
Relations. This blows away any conceivable record for box office of a
documentary.
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Chronology of Russian-Chechen relations -- part two

2004-06-26 Thread Joseph Green
This is the second part of my chronology of Russian-Chechen relations. It deals
with the history of the Chechens during the Soviet Union. The third part will
deal with the 90s, and show in particular the continuity of Yeltsin and Putin's
policy on Chechnya.

Some comments have been raised on part one of the chronology, which
dealt with the Tsarist conquest of the Caucasus, to the effect of why worry
about the atrocities against Chechnya, since history is always bloody; why worry
about the history of oppression anyway, since history is always oppressive; why
support national rights for Chechens unless one likes their current leadership;
how could there be national rights in Chechnya because the population wasn't
purely ethnic Chechen; and so forth.

 But this is not the way the Bolshevik revolution thought of matters.
One had to remain conscious of the history of exploitation and oppression in the
past, if one wanted to overcome it. And in particular, Lenin stressed the
importance, in uniting the proletariat, of ensuring the right to
self-determination and/or other national rights for all the nationalities.   He
didn't think the Caucasus was an exception for this. So while the Bolshevik
revolution was still alive, it gradually felt its way to providing various
rights for the Caucasian nationalities.

 Under Stalinist state-capitalism, however, monstrous crimes were committed
against the nationalities, including the mass deportation of the entire Chechen
population. This is ethnic cleansing on a vast scale, complete with many deaths
during the deportation process itself, and police supervision of the deportees
in their new place of residence. No socialist regime could ever do such a thing.
And yet Stalin did it not just to the Chechens, but to a number of other small
nationalities.  All this shows that the revolution had died out in the Soviet
Union, and that there is nothing in common between Stalinism and communism.

But even mass deportation didn't end the issue of Chechen national rights. If
almost two decades of total removal didn't suppress the Chechen national
question, surely Putin's war isn't going to do so either. The question will
fester on and on, poisoning the situation in the Caucasus and even in Russia,
until Chechnya really obtains the right to national self-determination, and
conditions that allow it to re-establish a viable economy and its own political
institutions. The right to national self-determination isn't a panacea, of
course, but it is a necessary part of any solution. The reason this right has
been denied, isn't because it would be hard to grant it, but because the Russian
government regards the entire Caucasus as its sphere of influence, and is
neither going to grant national rights to the Chechens and nearby peoples, nor
give up its cyncial policy of playing off one people against another in Georgia,
Azerbaijan and Armenia.  It is up to the Russian working masses to insist on a
new policy, but to do so, it will have to organize a new movement independent of
the old movements that speak in its name.

One person asked about the proletarian movement in Chechnya. As I mentioned
before, the economy of Chechnya has been devastated, especially the modern
sector of the economy. Under those circumstances, there has been massive
deproletarianization in Chechnya. This is one of the features helping the
spreads of fundamentalism. The longer the war against Chechnya proceeds, the
harder it will be for the Chechen working masses to assert themselves


Joseph Green
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.communistvoice.org



IMPORTANT DATES IN RUSSIAN-CHECHEN RELATIONS
Part two of three


-
Early revolutionary history of Soviet Union and then
consolidation of Stalinist state-capitalism
--

1917:

. The Bolshevik revolution overthrows the tsarist empire. The Chechens fight
such counter-revolutionary forces as the white armies of General Denikin. But
the different social forces among the Chechens take different attitudes to the
new regime; there are stormy relations between Chechnya and the Soviet Union;
and certain sections of the population revolt at certain times. As well, the
revolutionary forces themselves are feeling their way to new policies; there are
different views about the relation of the national question to socialism; and
this too complicates matters. Two major trends stand out. On one hand, based on
Lenin's theories about the importance of the right to national
self-determination, not just under capitalism but in a countries that have
overthrown the old capitalist regime, for the first time the rights of the
Chechen nationality and the Chechen common people receive serious attention from
Russia. But on the other hand, as the revolution dies away, and the Soviet Union
degenerates into a Stalinist, state-capitalist regime, anti-Chechen chauvinism
is