> > Second, the old comparison of France and England: England where
> > peasants lost rights to land early and had no early incentive to
> > restrict fertility, and thus saw a rapidly-growing rural population
> > that was pushed out of the countryside into the cities where it
> > became the reserve army for the textile factories of the industrial
> > revolution. Manchester 1844.
>
>Recent comparative research on the peasantries of England and France
>questions this old view: 1) through the medieval period there were
>regions in England where a peasantry free of any feudal obligation
>prevailed and where higher yields per seed were achieved. And it was
>these prosperous small farmers who later became the tenants of
>large estates, and who consolidated their farms through a process
>known as 'engrossing'. 2) copyholders, not just freeholders, had a lot
>more security of tenure against enclosing landlords than previously argued,
>with Parliament many times intervening in their favor against landowners.
>3) the agricultural revolution of the 16th-17th centuries - associated
>with increases in total grain output and yields - was in many ways
>initiated and led by  this well-to-do (yeomen) peasantry.


Yes. But the not well-to-do peasantry? The rate of population 
increase--and of rural poverty increase in eighteenth and early 
nineteenth-century England is astonishing.

>4)
>meanwhile, in France, to quote Croot and Parker "the real crime of
>the French Monarchy was *not* that it bolstered peasant ownership but
>that (together with the church, seigneurs and landowners) it
>depressed it so brutally. The consequence was that the countryside
lost its most dynamic force - a class of truly independent peasants"


I'm not so sure about that. I once found David Landes downing 
Sauterne and asked him why he thought weaving rough cotton cloth was 
a higher technological achievement than French winemaking. He didn't 
answer...


Brad DeLong



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