One problem that I can see in Paul Cockshott's references to Marx's comments on communism is that Marx was not always clear as to whether he was referring to communism as a fully developed organic system (one in which all its presuppositions in their communist economic form were produced as results) or whether he was talking about communism as it first appears, when it is in the process of "becoming"--- a process which consists "precisely in subordinating all elements of society to itself, or in creating out of it the organs which it still lacks" (Grundrisse,Vintage/Penguin,278). Certainly, he makes the distinction in the Gotha Critique but one could hardly argue that he exhaustively explored the subject there. We know that the difference he saw between capitalism as an organic system and capitalism in the process of becoming (which should be seen as including not only original accumulation but also up to the point of developing a specifically capitalist mode of production) was profound. So, why should we not acknowledge a similar divide when it comes to a Marxian view of communism? Ie., there is no question that in Marx's view of communism-- once it has developed upon its own foundations-- there is no place for any kind of exchange relation as such. But before that? Please note that this is not at all intended as an argument in favour of conceptions of market socialism but only a cautionary comment about using Marx's statements. Some of my own thinking along the above lines can be found in "The Socialist Fetter: A Cautionary Tale," in the SOCIALIST REGISTER, 1991 (edited by Miliband and Panitch). in solidarity, mike --------------------------- Michael A. Lebowitz Economics Department, Simon Fraser University Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6 Office: (604) 291-4669; Office fax: (604) 291-5944 Home: (604) 255-0382 Lasqueti Island: (604) 333-8810 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]