Hate radio

2004-05-20 Thread Charles Brown
When the torture story first broke, Rush Limbaugh made a number of
outrageous remarks about the revelations, including calling the abuses
by U.S. soldiers pretty thoughtful and a brilliant maneuver.


was radio channel surfing the other day and heard limbaugh
comparing prisoner abuse photos to robert mapplethorpe's
work, he suggested that people who are criticizing sexual
humiliation/degradation/torture of iragis are same folks who have
promoted porno agenda and celebrated likes of mapplethorpe, guess one's
inability to choose to be a subject in such matters is irrelevant...
michael hoover

^

I wonder what the Marquis de Sade would say about all this !

Charles


Re: Hate radio

2004-05-20 Thread Chris Doss

 was radio channel surfing the other day and heard limbaugh
 comparing prisoner abuse photos to robert mapplethorpe's
 work, he suggested that people who are criticizing sexual
 humiliation/degradation/torture of iragis are same folks who have
 promoted porno agenda and celebrated likes of mapplethorpe, guess one's
 inability to choose to be a subject in such matters is irrelevant...
 michael hoover

 ^

 I wonder what the Marquis de Sade would say about all this !


Bring it on!


Hate radio

2004-05-19 Thread Louis Proyect
When the torture story first broke, Rush Limbaugh made a number of
outrageous remarks about the revelations, including calling the abuses
by U.S. soldiers pretty thoughtful and a brilliant maneuver. But two
of his fellow right-wing shock jocks have since spewed rhetoric on the
air waves that makes Limbaugh's comments look like child's play.
The sentiments speak for themselves, but what is perhaps most disturbing
is their reach. Savage Nation's syndicated radio host Michael Savage,
already infamous for telling a gay caller to get AIDS and die (MSNBC
fired him for that), boasts 6 million American listeners per week,
according to the nonprofit watchdog group MediaMatters.org. On May 11,
while repeatedly calling Abu Ghraib Grab-an-Arab prison, he launched
into this little tirade:
I think there should be no mercy shown to these sub-humans. I believe
that a thousand of them should be killed tomorrow. I think a thousand of
them held in the Iraqi prison should be given 24 hour[s] -- a trial and
executed. I think they need to be shown that we are not going to roll
over to them ... Instead of putting joysticks, I would have liked to
have seen dynamite put in their orifices and they should be dropped from
airplanes ... They should put dynamite in their behinds and drop them
from 35,000 feet, the whole pack of scum out of that jail.
The next day Savage added that Arabs were racist, fascist bigots, and
purported to speak for a majority of Americans regarding the war. He
offered several all-American solutions to our problems in the Middle East.
Right now, even people sitting on the fence would like George Bush to
drop a nuclear weapon on an Arab country. They don't even care which one
it would be. I can guarantee you -- I don't need to go to Mr. Schmuck
[pollster John] Zogby and ask him his opinion ... The most -- I tell you
right now -- the largest percentage of Americans would like to see a
nuclear weapon dropped on a major Arab capital. They don't even care
which one...
I think these people need to be forcibly converted to Christianity ...
It's the only thing that can probably turn them into human beings.
He also made sure to plug his credentials.
I'm going to give you one further example from my background as an
anthropologist just so that you -- I'm trying to put context on this
because you can go crazy if you don't have the context on this, because
I'm going to lead up to something of what we must do to these
primitives. Because these primitives can only be treated in one way, and
I don't think smallpox and a blanket is good enough incidentally ...
Smallpox in a blanket, which the U.S. Army gave to the Cherokee Indians
on their long march to the West, was nothing compared to what I'd like
to see done to these people.
full:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/right_hook/2004/05/19/apology/index1.html
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Hate radio

2004-05-19 Thread Charles Brown
Less anyone continue to indulge American exceptionalism and claim the U.S.
doesn't have a potential Nazism in it... This gives new force  to the old
observation that anthropology is the handmaiden of imperialism.

Savage is a despicable dog.

I can't even say what I actually think about this Savage.

CB

Louis Proyect:
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He also made sure to plug his credentials.

I'm going to give you one further example from my background as an
anthropologist just so that you -- I'm trying to put context on this
because you can go crazy if you don't have the context on this, because
I'm going to lead up to something of what we must do to these
primitives. Because these primitives can only be treated in one way, and
I don't think smallpox and a blanket is good enough incidentally ...
Smallpox in a blanket, which the U.S. Army gave to the Cherokee Indians
on their long march to the West, was nothing compared to what I'd like
to see done to these people.

full:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/right_hook/2004/05/19/apology/index1.html


Re: Hate radio

2004-05-19 Thread Max B. Sawicky
Don't insult dogs.

I don't get the anthro
reference.  His degree was in botany.

mbs

. . .
Savage is a despicable dog.


Louis Proyect:
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He also made sure to plug his credentials.

I'm going to give you one further example from my background as an
anthropologist just so


Re: Hate radio

2004-05-19 Thread Michael Hoover
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/19/2004 9:05:42 AM 
When the torture story first broke, Rush Limbaugh made a number of
outrageous remarks about the revelations, including calling the abuses
by U.S. soldiers pretty thoughtful and a brilliant maneuver.


was radio channel surfing the other day and heard limbaugh
comparing prisoner abuse photos to robert mapplethorpe's
work, he suggested that people who are criticizing sexual
humiliation/degradation/torture of iragis are same folks who have
promoted porno agenda and celebrated likes of mapplethorpe, guess one's
inability to choose to be a subject in such matters is irrelevant...
michael hoover


Re: Hate radio

2004-05-19 Thread Carrol Cox
The headline for today's column by Cal Thomas (I didn't read the column
itself) blames the problems in Iraq on Coed Basic Training. :-)

The Army has become increasingly dependent on women in its ranks; that
could conceivably cause them as much trouble as racism caused in the
'60s.

Carrol

Michael Hoover wrote:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/19/2004 9:05:42 AM 
 When the torture story first broke, Rush Limbaugh made a number of
 outrageous remarks about the revelations, including calling the abuses
 by U.S. soldiers pretty thoughtful and a brilliant maneuver.
 

 was radio channel surfing the other day and heard limbaugh
 comparing prisoner abuse photos to robert mapplethorpe's
 work, he suggested that people who are criticizing sexual
 humiliation/degradation/torture of iragis are same folks who have
 promoted porno agenda and celebrated likes of mapplethorpe, guess one's
 inability to choose to be a subject in such matters is irrelevant...
 michael hoover