Re: Is there a left program at the global level?

2002-02-09 Thread Patrick Bond

- Original Message -
From: Peter Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 At first, I was irritated by Uchitelle's assertion that concrete proposals
for change are not coming
 from the streets but from more moderate types like Dani Rodrik.  But then
I thought about it, and it
 seemed to be more or less correct.

Depends where you look, comrade Peter. Each society has its own lefties
arguing for concrete alternatives. A recent book I did (Advert warning!:
*Against Global Apartheid: South Africa meets the WB, IMF and Int'l Finance*
from University of Cape Town Press, out last October) has a concluding
chapter with all the historic references, int'l comparisons and concrete
proposals floating around for locking capital down. These would be
exceptionally radical in terms of changing the balance of class forces and
the character of capital accumulation in our particular setting, and would
thus set the stage for non-reformist reforms in a variety of other
development spheres.

As for the concrete proposals, they typically flow from the kinds of
underlying principles that Esping-Andersen has documented from the
working-class movements which struggled, over the past century, for
national-scale social policies: decommodification, destratification,
degendering of access to services/goods, and harmonised society/nature
relations. Taking one example, water, look for concrete proposals (e.g. from
the int'l Blue Planet project hosted by the Council of Canadians) along the
following explicitly anti-capitalist lines: constitutionally-guaranted
lifeline access on a universal basis; progressive command/control functions
over national resources management from the central state based upon
nationalised ownership of water resources (instead of Riparian land-based
ownership); demand-side management and penalisation for hedonistic water
use instead of supply-side enhancements like big dams; progressive regional
arrangements for shared water courses; prohibition of
privatisations/corporatisations of municipal supplies; etc etc.

I wasn't in Porto Alegre, but I think that the current epoch of struggle
against neoliberalism has generated so many incredibly good
grassroots/shopfloor comrades who are, perhaps for the first time in recent
history, thinking and acting these through, in large part by making inspired
international links. When our best Soweto leaders swop stories of
privatisation-sabotage with the comrades from Accra, Manila, Cochabamba and
Ontario, as I've witnessed on several occasions, it brings real meaning to
the idea of people's globalisation (against capital's globalisation). If you
come out to both/either our decommodification prepcom at the Jo'burg
Workers' Library in May (soon to be advertised at http://www.queensu.ca/msp)
, and/or the World Summit on Sustainable Development parallel sessions we're
helping with in August-September, you'll really see this synthesis in
research/strategy/protest. Very inspiring!

But you're right to be cautious, insofar as the proposed mechanisms follows
an unresolved debate over fix it or nix it of int'l institutions. If the
goal is to close the World Bank, IMF and WTO (with some people arguing for
global-scale alternatives and others insisting that such would be utopian),
then the concrete mechanisms necessarily are local, national and in some
cases (e.g. following Bello and Amin) regional. If the UN is seen as a site
of reform/regulation (really utopian!), then other mechanisms (like Tobin
Tax) follow logically. That debate remains crucial, and I'm nearly always
convinced that the best grassroots/shopfloor social forces are moving it to
the left by their praxis. Kicking James Wolfensohn out of Porto Alegre was
most encouraging.

 The excellent critiques of the existing system usually end with a
 brief wish list of desired outcomes but not actual proposals, or where
there are proposals they are
 disappointingly nonradical.  (Perhaps the only exception is the demand for
widespread debt relief, but
 isn't this also defined in terms of the outcome and not the concrete
mechanism?)

The mechanism there is repudiation, and the next big push is for reparations
(eco-debt, slavery, colonialism, neoliberalism); Jubilee South's Porto
Alegre Debt Tribunal did lots of work on this... From Argentina to Zimbabwe,
it's on the agenda of the popular groups and in Argentina and Zimbabwe their
are de facto defaults. (Advert warning!: The latter case is documented in
the book -- out next week from Africa World Press and Merlin in
N.America/Europe -- coauthored by myself and Mugabe's 1990s chief economist,
Masimba Manyanya, in *Zimbabwe's Plunge: Exhausted Nationalism,
Neoliberalism and the Search for Social Justice*).

 I'd like to be wrong.  I would love to say that our side has carefully
thought-out demands to fight for,
 and that the problem is just that they are being ignored or blacked out.
Please convince me that this
 is so.
 (And, no, the Tobin tax does not qualify as a radical proposal.)

Right 

Re: Is there a left program at the global level?

2002-02-09 Thread miyachi

on 2/9/02 03:33 PM, Peter Dorman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At first, I was irritated by Uchitelle's assertion that concrete proposals for
 change are not coming
 from the streets but from more moderate types like Dani Rodrik.  But then I
 thought about it, and it
 seemed to be more or less correct.  The excellent critiques of the existing
 system usually end with a
 brief wish list of desired outcomes but not actual proposals, or where there
 are proposals they are
 disappointingly nonradical.  (Perhaps the only exception is the demand for
 widespread debt relief, but
 isn't this also defined in terms of the outcome and not the concrete
 mechanism?)
 
 I'd like to be wrong.  I would love to say that our side has carefully
 thought-out demands to fight for,
 and that the problem is just that they are being ignored or blacked out.
 Please convince me that this
 is so.
 
 (And, no, the Tobin tax does not qualify as a radical proposal.)
 
 Peter
 
 Ian Murray wrote:
 
 [NYTimes]
 February 9, 2002
 Challenging the Dogmas of Free Trade
 By LOUIS UCHITELLE
 
 
 snip
 
 
 The anti-globalization protests, including the protests near the Waldorf last
 weekend, have rallied
 tens of thousands of people against globalization and above all against its
 laissez-faire guiding
 principle. But the alternative visions that are beginning to be offered are
 not coming from the
 streets. They are coming instead from Mr. Rodrik, a professor at Harvard's
 Kennedy School of
 Government, and a handful of other economists, sociologists and political
 scientists.
 
You need not concern. Ongoing various social movements such as
anti-globalizaiton ,ecology, feminists, ethnic rebuilding, local community
rebuilding  using LETS as exchange means and small banking which is for
example, in progress in Afghan revival plan due to World bank, UN,UNICEF,
or religious form of class struggle, especially by Muslim emerges
increasingly  day by day. We may better change image of revolution, which we
experienced past. Lenin or Mao type political revolution may be old. Because
although they succeeded in abolishing capital but failed to abolish money.
To abolish money may be key point of expected revolution, and its process
already exists, for example LETS instead money.
We learned in school that working-class revolution is differ from bourgeois
revolution in which within feudal system bourgeois matured and leaded to
revolution. Differ from bourgeois revolution, we are taught that
working-class revolution begins with taking over political power. But in
reality, we are experiencing new type society are emerging increasingly
within capitalist system. We may base these new social movements as
revolutionary elements and may take over political power as final action.
MIYACHI TATSUO
PSYCHIATRIC DEPARTMENT
KOMAKI MUNICIPAL HOSPITAL
KOMAKI CITY
AICHI Pre.
JAPAN
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Is there a left program at the global level?

2002-02-09 Thread Devine, James

Patrick Bond refers to:concrete proposals floating around for locking
capital down.

someone might argue that models showing the benefit of freer trade don't
include the impact of capital (and labor) mobility and in fact that some
say that we don't need either type of mobility (Heckscher-Ohlin). So
they might advocate a kind of globalization that is all about free
trade, but bans factor mobility. 

just musing,
Jim Devine




Re: Re: Is there a left program at the global level?

2002-02-09 Thread Michael Perelman

Patrick Bond is absolutely correct to choose water as his example.  It is
crucial.  Once grass roots replaces gross loots organizations -- gee, I
just coined that -- international organization must follow since water is
transnational.  Rivers don't respect boundaries.
 -- 
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Is there a left program at the global level?

2002-02-08 Thread Peter Dorman

At first, I was irritated by Uchitelle's assertion that concrete proposals for change 
are not coming
from the streets but from more moderate types like Dani Rodrik.  But then I thought 
about it, and it
seemed to be more or less correct.  The excellent critiques of the existing system 
usually end with a
brief wish list of desired outcomes but not actual proposals, or where there are 
proposals they are
disappointingly nonradical.  (Perhaps the only exception is the demand for widespread 
debt relief, but
isn't this also defined in terms of the outcome and not the concrete mechanism?)

I'd like to be wrong.  I would love to say that our side has carefully thought-out 
demands to fight for,
and that the problem is just that they are being ignored or blacked out.  Please 
convince me that this
is so.

(And, no, the Tobin tax does not qualify as a radical proposal.)

Peter

Ian Murray wrote:

 [NYTimes]
 February 9, 2002
 Challenging the Dogmas of Free Trade
 By LOUIS UCHITELLE


snip


 The anti-globalization protests, including the protests near the Waldorf last 
weekend, have rallied
 tens of thousands of people against globalization and above all against its 
laissez-faire guiding
 principle. But the alternative visions that are beginning to be offered are not 
coming from the
 streets. They are coming instead from Mr. Rodrik, a professor at Harvard's Kennedy 
School of
 Government, and a handful of other economists, sociologists and political scientists.