I've seen a couple of longer things Marty has done that spell out 
the argument. One is a superb new book on Japan/East Asia with Paul 
Burkett (St Martin's Press), whose last chapter blew me away, as it 
really tackles the problematic of progressive social/labour-movement 
organising against neoliberalism... when Kism has to be more firmly 
in our sights. Another is a forthcoming MR article which contrasts 
China-bashing with a more durable, anti-capitalist strategy: to 
shorten the working day. It's a shame email is not a particularly 
good medium for getting deep into these debates and interrogating a 
complex line of argument. Maybe Marty wouldn't mind, anyhow, sending 
whatever relevants bits of these pieces he can. They really convinced 
me...

> Date:          Sat, 13 May 2000 17:23:58 -0700 (PDT)
> From:          Martin Hart-Landsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject:       [PEN-L:18903] Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: EPI Paper on U.S. FDI in China
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> Max says:
> 
> > Capital will go wherever the State permits it to go.
> > Hence the laws of and among States are the logical
> > target.  Trade agreements & the workings of the WTO
> > are part and parcel of these laws.
> 
> Somehow that is translated into a politics that says we need to focus on
> the actions of the Chinese state or China and not the actions of the U.S.
> state.  The problems facing US workers from highly mobile capital go
> beyond China, but focusing on China and the actions of the Chinese state
> narrow the politics in a way that is self-defeating if our aim is to
> illuminate what is happening and build a radical movement for change. 
> 
> Max adds: 
> > 
> > 
> > Rather than labor's present campaign, MHL proposes
> > that we "focus our attention on US capital and the
> > logic of international capitalism."  But that's not
> > politics; it's a seminar.  Or a book.  Getting up
> > in front of a crowd and saying, "I denounce
> > capitalism" is not politics.  It's a potential
> > component of politics, but one that lacks any
> > referents in current events or practice.
> > 
> I guess we have a difference of opinion on what politics is about.  The
> issue is not short-run "victories" which are really non-victories. Keeping
> China out of the WTO will only ensure the status quo.  At issue is first
> determining what kind of political understanding we want to promote and
> then figuring out how to effectively promote it.  
> 
> I think that in this period ideological struggle is very important.  Real
> politics is finding a way to help people understand the nature of the
> system that they live in and move as quickly as possible to embrace
> actions to transform that system in appropriate ways.  If the problem is
> capitalism and the role of the US state and US MNCs, then we need to think
> creatively about how to promote that understanding.
> 
> Saying that the issue is china and its lack of human rights for workers is
> not some how any more or less a lecture than saying that the issue is
> capitalism and the actions of US MNCs.  The difference is that the first
> is just a bad lecture, from which confused politics is bound to come.  And
> the second ....  well you can guess.
> 
> Marty
> 
> 

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