Re: time (was left the mita running?)

2001-05-30 Thread Tom Walker

I think it is gas.

Gene Coyloe

It was those beans again. Speaking of beans and inevitably of bean counting,
what seems important to me is the transition from a regime of calculation to
first a regime of automated calculation and ultimately to a regime where the
instruments of measurement construct the things being measured. This doesn't
work for physical commodities like gas (the fuel) or water or sealing wax,
but it does for derived categories like unemployment/employment, inflation,
public opinion, entertainment, gross domestic product and . . .  the wage.

Wage labour is presumably something that can or could crop up ephemerally
anywhere at any time historically for any number of locally significant
reasons. But wage labour as we know it is something historically specific
and, *whatever its origins*, it is something that is becoming increasingly
incompatible with the continuation of social life. All puns aside, the meter
has become the message.

As Doug has correctly (if perhaps only kiddingly) perceived, this does have
something to do with the length of the workday although it doesn't have to
do exclusively with the length of the workday. More broadly, it has to do
with the whole spectrum (or is it a lump?) of social statistics with which
we intellectuals and ideologists entertain ourselves. However, the
quantification of labour power in units of labour time is the point at which
all this socially calculated rubber hits the road. It is consequently the
point at which one may well expect the metered shit to hit the fan.
Something about all that is solid melts into air; gas again -- greenhouse or
beanhouse.

The METER is running but the cab is parked at the curb with the engine
idling. The meter is RUNNING but does it really count?


Tom Walker wrote:

 A meter is an instrument for measuring and recording the quantity of
 something, as of gas, water, miles, or time. Take your pick.

 Doug Henwood asked,

 Does this have something to do with the length of the workday, or the
 lump of entertainment fallacy?

Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213




left the mita running?

2001-05-29 Thread Tom Walker

Doug Henwood cracked, 

And such revolutions aren't likely to happen in the rich imperial 
nations if their left intellectuals are interested only in affairs 
thousands of miles from where they sit.

Louis Proyect riposted,

You forgot to mention that I live on the Upper East Side. Slipping in your
old age?

When I was a kid, people didn't worry much about getting to the movie on
time. They would just find a seat whenever they got there and watch the last
2/3 or 3/4 of the movie, wait for it to start again and then watch the part
they had missed. When scenes showed up that they had seen before someone
would ask isn't this where we came in? and they would leave. If it was a
tedious movie, someone would ask isn't this where we came in? after about
10 minutes.

Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213




re: time (was left the mita running?)

2001-05-29 Thread Tom Walker

A meter is an instrument for measuring and recording the quantity of
something, as of gas, water, miles, or time. Take your pick.

Doug Henwood asked,

Does this have something to do with the length of the workday, or the 
lump of entertainment fallacy?

Tom Walker
Bowen Island, BC
604 947 2213




Re: re: time (was left the mita running?)

2001-05-29 Thread Eugene Coyle

I think it is gas.

Gene Coyloe

Tom Walker wrote:

 A meter is an instrument for measuring and recording the quantity of
 something, as of gas, water, miles, or time. Take your pick.

 Doug Henwood asked,

 Does this have something to do with the length of the workday, or the
 lump of entertainment fallacy?

 Tom Walker
 Bowen Island, BC
 604 947 2213