Re: [PEN-L] May Day 2005 in Caracas: the revolution advances

2005-05-04 Thread Jim Devine
On 5/3/05, michael a. lebowitz wrote:
I don't remember the experience in Algeria, though, and am away
from my books. Can you (or anyone else) expand on that point?

it's been a long time since I read this material, so I can't add
anything beyond that what initially seemed like a good thing on the
micro level (workers' control) turned out to divide the Algerian
working class.
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Jim Devine
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Re: [PEN-L] May Day 2005 in Caracas: the revolution advances

2005-05-04 Thread Louis Proyect
it's been a long time since I read this material, so I can't add
anything beyond that what initially seemed like a good thing on the
micro level (workers' control) turned out to divide the Algerian
working class.
--
Jim Devine
I think there were bigger problems than that.
http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/state_and_revolution/algeria.htm
The development model chosen by the new revolutionary government had been
conceived by Belgian economist Destane de Bernis whose goal it was to
address Algerian needs specifically and the Third World in general. The FLN
turned these ideas into a doctrine. The basic premise was that a modernized
Algerian economy that achieved rapid industrialization would achieve a high
degree of growth that would enable the peasant masses to be absorbed into
the new economy. To reach this goal, the most advanced technology would
have to be utilized. Not much analysis was done on the impact this path
would have on the working-class or peasantry of the nation. It was the
nation as nation that took precedent. Bernis would not let anything stand
in the way of this modernizing model. He said, We have decided that our
equipment has to be ultra-modern, because it is more profitable in the
middle term. We cannot accept machines dating from the 1940s, even if their
use would provide jobs for a greater number of workers. The lack of
sensitivity to the needs of the working-class has to be understood in terms
of the character of the new state which is composed of
bureaucratic-military cadre of the FLN and officials from the colonial
administration.
While gestures toward self-management of firms and farms were made, the
socialist government of Algeria appeared more interested in the quantity
of growth rather than its quality. In this respect, it shared many of the
characteristics of less progressive states in the region that were
following a modernizing agenda, such as Iran and Iraq. Simultaneous with
the technocratic approach to economic development that was taking shape in
huge oil and chemical state-owned enterprises, Algeria began to witness the
emergence of a private sector. The state sector actually began to fuel the
growth of the private sector. Capitalism had never been abolished in
Algeria, as it was in Cuba, so there ample opportunities for it to grow in
the booming energy-based economy. An Algerian radical newspaper commented
in 1983 that Not only old agrarian and commercial capitalists have
invested, but also party cadres, veterans of the liberation war, and even
public sector cadres.
Colonel Boumedienne hailed this process. National capital must play its
role and accomplish its duty to the nation, the state is disposed, on its
part, to supply it with all guarantees in a defined framework. It is not in
the interest of the country that (private) capital remain unproductive.
The private sector has grown steadily in Algeria. Charts available in
Rachid Tlemcani's book State and Revolution in Algeria, the source of the
information in this post, end prior to 1986, the publication year. The
trend is obvious, however. In 1982, private industry accounted for 40% of
all jobs in transportation, 70% in agriculture and 75% in commerce.
The US embassy in Algiers published a report the same year that pointed to
the existence of 315,000 capitalist firms. There are class loyalties
between the bourgeoisie who run these firms and the petty-bourgeois
bureaucrats who run state industry. Both tend to view labor as inputs to
an economy that will produce growth for the nation rather than as an end in
itself. Not only does the state sector have a compromised relationship to
the domestic private sector, it is linked to international capital in a way
totally unlike state firms have been in Cuba up until recently. The state
firms in Algeria owe their existence to loans advanced by imperialist
banks. The class relationship that underlies this debt is entirely
different from those that Cuba owed to the former Soviet Union.
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Re: [PEN-L] May Day 2005 in Caracas: the revolution advances

2005-05-04 Thread Jim Devine
I agree with your analysis (and wasn't trying to propose anything as
complete a picture). One thing behind the technocratic/capitalist tilt
of the Algerian revolution was that the French strategy and tactics in
the war for independence led to a decimation of the grass roots of the
domestically-based FLN (and of its own cadres), shifting power to the
foreign-based and (not surprisingly) military-style ALN, which had
little grass-roots support. Thus, working-class and peasant interests
were given short shrift, including the workers' management movement.
(Some attention was given to those, but hardly enough.)
JD

On 5/4/05, Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 it's been a long time since I read this material, so I can't add
 anything beyond that what initially seemed like a good thing on the
 micro level (workers' control) turned out to divide the Algerian
 working class.
 --
 Jim Devine
 
 I think there were bigger problems than that.
 
 http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/state_and_revolution/algeria.htm
 
 The development model chosen by the new revolutionary government had been
 conceived by Belgian economist Destane de Bernis whose goal it was to
 address Algerian needs specifically and the Third World in general. The FLN 
 ...


Re: [PEN-L] May Day 2005 in Caracas: the revolution advances

2005-05-04 Thread Jim Devine
a lot of my references appear in my review of _The Emergence of
Classes in Algeria: A Study of Colonialism and Socio-Political Change_
(Westview Press, 1976), by Marnia Lazreg, that appeared in the _Review
of Radical Political Economics_, volume 12(1), Spring 1980: pp. 64-67.

On 5/4/05, Hans G. Ehrbar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jim wrote:
 
  it's been a long time since I read this material, so I can't add
  anything beyond that what initially seemed like a good thing on the
  micro level (workers' control) turned out to divide the Algerian
  working class.
 
 Can you give references?  On the socialism list we are
 collecting this kind of literature.  We are trying to put it
 on the www so that it is available for activists who go this
 route.
 
 Hans Ehrbar
 
 http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/socialism
 


-- 
Jim Devine
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Re: [PEN-L] May Day 2005 in Caracas: the revolution advances

2005-05-03 Thread Jim Devine
great report!

Are people conscious of the problem of co-management being instituted
only for the more elite workers, leaving the rest in the dust?
(something like that happened in revolution-era Algeria.)
-- 
Jim Devine
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Re: [PEN-L] May Day 2005 in Caracas: the revolution advances

2005-05-03 Thread michael a. lebowitz
At 14:32 03/05/2005, Jim Devine wrote:
great report!
Are people conscious of the problem of co-management being instituted
only for the more elite workers, leaving the rest in the dust?
(something like that happened in revolution-era Algeria.)
Thanks. A friend tells me, though, that the best part is how well I evoke
the image of being hit on the head by a banner (with a good slogan,
though.) My own presentation at the Workers Table raised the spectre of
co-management for an aristocracy of labour while 80% of the population was
poor and 50% of the working class was in the informal sector. I know that
some ministers are concerned about this very point and some trade union
leaders also. But not all workers (including some who are in recently
nationalised firms). The conclusions of the Table rejected this perspective
and included:
4. Experiences up until now teach us that it is only possible to develop
 the knowledge of the running of companies by workers, when these belong to
 the state. The workers rejected any idea of turning workers of the
 co-managed or managed factories into small proprietors. It corresponds to
 those in the factories, to exert their role as guarantors of the
 sovereignty of the people established in the constitution, so that the
 profits of these companies become part of the social funds which help
 reverse the poverty of wide sections of the Venezuelan population and not
 directed towards stimulating new business ventures.

 5. The participation of the community is fundamental in all of the process
 of workers co-management and management and in the development of the
 alternative model, in order to obtain the means towards the transformation
 of the production model and end social exclusion.

I don't remember the experience in Algeria, though, and am away
from my books. Can you (or anyone else) expand on that point?
in solidarity,
 michael
Michael A. Lebowitz
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