Re: [Perldl] Impact
On 2015-02-11 at 10:09:59 +, Christian Soeller wrote: Hi both, It would probably be nice to come up with a few approaches to calculate some metrics from this and similar info. Maybe somebody really clever can come up with a perl/pdl script to automatically 'scrape' the info from the relevant servers? As for scraping, any of these may work: - https://metacpan.org/pod/Bib::Tools#add_google_search, - https://code.google.com/p/google-scholar-perl/, - or my own https://github.com/zmughal/p5-Biblio-Document-Fetch. :-) It seems the only difference between Bib::Tools and mine is that mine doesn't try to resolve citations using CrossRef like Bib::Tools does. Regards, - Zaki Mughal Cheers, CS On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 9:51 AM, Piero Ranalli wrote: 2015-02-11 9:04 GMT+02:00, Karl Glazebrook kglazebr...@swin.edu.au (mailto:kglazebr...@swin.edu.au): Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL? Has anyone tried a paper count? Hi if you mean citations to Glazebrook Economou 1997, The Perl Journal, 5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of 14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their Web of science core collections. All these papers are in astrophysics, which looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields. Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one paper on optics, two in bioinformatics). Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of pdl.perl.org (http://pdl.perl.org) in the full text. I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed, so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it. So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that -- that's how I did. Piero ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu (mailto:Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu) http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl
Re: [Perldl] Impact
2015-02-11 9:04 GMT+02:00, Karl Glazebrook kglazebr...@swin.edu.au: Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL? Has anyone tried a paper count? Hi if you mean citations to Glazebrook Economou 1997, The Perl Journal, 5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of 14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their Web of science core collections. All these papers are in astrophysics, which looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields. Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one paper on optics, two in bioinformatics). Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of pdl.perl.org in the full text. I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed, so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it. So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that -- that's how I did. Piero ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl
Re: [Perldl] Impact
Hi, so far I've always cited http://pdl.perl.org, is that wrong? Ingo On 02/11/2015 10:51 AM, Piero Ranalli wrote: 2015-02-11 9:04 GMT+02:00, Karl Glazebrook kglazebr...@swin.edu.au: Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL? Has anyone tried a paper count? Hi if you mean citations to Glazebrook Economou 1997, The Perl Journal, 5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of 14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their Web of science core collections. All these papers are in astrophysics, which looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields. Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one paper on optics, two in bioinformatics). Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of pdl.perl.org in the full text. I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed, so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it. So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that -- that's how I did. Piero ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl
Re: [Perldl] Impact
Hi both, Firstly, good idea to look into this, Karl. A search on google scholar with the terms 'perl pdl' produces quite a few more hits, also in journals outside of astro. It would probably be nice to come up with a few approaches to calculate some metrics from this and similar info. Maybe somebody really clever can come up with a perl/pdl script to automatically 'scrape' the info from the relevant servers? In any case, a nice compilation of findings would clearly be useful for future reference. Cheers, CS On Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 9:51 AM, Piero Ranalli wrote: 2015-02-11 9:04 GMT+02:00, Karl Glazebrook kglazebr...@swin.edu.au (mailto:kglazebr...@swin.edu.au): Do we have any estimate of the impact/reach of PDL? Has anyone tried a paper count? Hi if you mean citations to Glazebrook Economou 1997, The Perl Journal, 5, 5, than the Thomson-Reuters Web of science is returning a total of 14 citations, only 13 of which however have a record in their Web of science core collections. All these papers are in astrophysics, which looks a bit suspect, but I can't find any way to select other fields. Three more citations appear when searching for Dr Dobb's journal (one paper on optics, two in bioinformatics). Besides the PDL paper, people may just be citing the PDL website. The NASA ADS database returns 47 records with an occurrence of pdl.perl.org (http://pdl.perl.org) in the full text. I think the main difficulty is that neither the Perl Journal, nor Dr Dobb's (which published the same article, is it correct?) are indexed, so there not a proper record in the databases for the PDL paper. This means that if search for the PDL paper, you won't find it; but you can see it listed in the references list of a paper citing it. So in Web of science you must find one paper citing PDL, get the references, find PDL in the list, and ask for citations of that -- that's how I did. Piero ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu (mailto:Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu) http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl ___ Perldl mailing list Perldl@jach.hawaii.edu http://mailman.jach.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/perldl
