Re: Nasta'aligh font
Peter, I'm using Macintosh platform and my point of interest is to render these fonts usable on this platform. There are not many options on this platform for word processor. MS products for Mac don't support Unicode nor right to left languages. When I was using OS 9, I was using Nisus Writer. I'm sure it can use this font although I didn't try it yet. I'll give it a try when I have time and I'll let you know. But since two years ago that I moved to OS X, I'm using Mellel which is a working progress but as I mentioned to Andrew Cunningham, it is supposed to support OTF in the future but right now it's not there yet. The point is that even if Mellel supports it, it will be limited in the application because OS X doesn't support it and from what I learned from another discussion forum, Apple intentionally wants to do away with OTF (which apparently is Apple's own old font technology) But most likely I'll be able to run the font on OS 9. I'll give it a try and I let you know. (it won't help me though!) Behnam On 27-Jan-04, at 5:02 AM, Linguasoft wrote: Dear Behnam, I haven't experienced any of the problems that you reported below. What kind of word processor are you using? On my system(s), the Nafees Nasta'leeq font works nicely in WordXP using RTL paragraph format. All ligatures are rendered correctly for Urdu letters, only short vowels (that aren't normally used in Urdu) are mostly rendered wrongly. Of course, if you use a non-Urdu keyboard and try to type letters such as U+0647 which aren't supported by the font, the word processor may escape to its default Arabic font (Times New Roman, in my case). Unfortunately you are right that both www.crulp.org and www.crulp.nu.edu.pk have disappeared from the net. I will check with contacts in Pakistan and let you know. Best regards, Peter E. Hauer Linguasoft Vienna, Austria -Original Message- From: Behnam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:55 PM To: Linguasoft Subject: Re: Nasta'aligh font Thanks Peter, It's more OTF than Unicode. The only glyphs in that font that have Unicode code are the main alphabet. So it can't possibly work on a word processor with Unicode support because non of other forms of the characters (initial, medial etc.) are coded. But apparently OTF side of it make it work on PCs. It's easy to make it Unicode compliant though (at least for Persian), but I asked permission (when that site existed) and I didn't get any response. Behnam On 26-Jan-04, at 6:10 AM, Linguasoft wrote: Dear Behnam, The font in question is Unicode/OTF but still in its beta release. At this stage, it only supports Urdu glyphs but no short vowels. You can imagine why... Best regards, Peter E. Hauer Linguasoft Vienna, Austria ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Re: Nasta'aligh font
On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 14:27, Behnam wrote: Nasta'aligh font which was available at http://www.crulp.org/ (which seems to be no more there) Should be a server issue. I'm contacting the guys to ask. I said it wasn't Unicode. Connie thought it was. It is Unicode, it seems, but Pakistanis have their own letters. For example, it seems that they don't use the Arabic/Persian Heh, and they have their own two different Hehs in Unicode. So if you use a Persian Heh in a word, the word breaks. Since you just come from Lahore, you had a chance to take a closer look at this font I couldn't look closely, but I took a look at the internals and also used it a little. I can't tell much about its compliance, but it's definitely an Urdu font. For example, it contains certain ligatures that happen in some Urdu words, but not the equivalent Persian ones. what's your take on it? From what I could see, it doesn't seem to be mapped properly according Unicode standard. Would you provide examples? roozbeh ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
Nasta'aligh font
Hi Roozbeh,
A while back I had a heated discussion with Connie regarding Unicode
compatibility of Nasta'aligh font which was available at
http://www.crulp.org/ (which seems to be no more there) I said it
wasn't Unicode. Connie thought it was.
Since you just come from Lahore, you had a chance to take a closer look
at this font {kidding!} what's your take on it? From what I could see,
it doesn't seem to be mapped properly according Unicode standard.
I hope you know what I'm talking about because that site apparently is
not there anymore.
Behnam
On 25-Jan-04, at 11:48 AM, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
I was at Lahore the last week as a trainer for a workshop called the
Fundamentals of Local Language Computing
(http://www.panl10n.net/training.htm). It was a wonderful experience
seeing Lahore, and meeting various people there, but I'm not writing
about that here.
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RE: Nasta'aligh font
Dear Behnam,
The font in question is Unicode/OTF but still in its beta release. At this
stage, it only supports Urdu glyphs but no short vowels. You can imagine
why...
Best regards,
Peter E. Hauer
Linguasoft
Vienna, Austria
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Subject: Nasta'aligh font
Hi Roozbeh,
A while back I had a heated discussion with Connie regarding Unicode
compatibility of Nasta'aligh font which was available at
http://www.crulp.org/ (which seems to be no more there) I said it
wasn't Unicode. Connie thought it was.
Since you just come from Lahore, you had a chance to take a closer look
at this font {kidding!} what's your take on it? From what I could see,
it doesn't seem to be mapped properly according Unicode standard.
I hope you know what I'm talking about because that site apparently is
not there anymore.
Behnam
On 25-Jan-04, at 11:48 AM, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
I was at Lahore the last week as a trainer for a workshop called the
Fundamentals of Local Language Computing
(http://www.panl10n.net/training.htm). It was a wonderful experience
seeing Lahore, and meeting various people there, but I'm not writing
about that here.
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Re: Nasta'aligh font
Thanks Peter, It's more OTF than Unicode. The only glyphs in that font that have Unicode code are the main alphabet. So it can't possibly work on a word processor with Unicode support because non of other forms of the characters (initial, medial etc.) are coded. But apparently OTF side of it make it work on PCs. It's easy to make it Unicode compliant though (at least for Persian), but I asked permission (when that site existed) and I didn't get any response. Behnam On 26-Jan-04, at 6:10 AM, Linguasoft wrote: Dear Behnam, The font in question is Unicode/OTF but still in its beta release. At this stage, it only supports Urdu glyphs but no short vowels. You can imagine why... Best regards, Peter E. Hauer Linguasoft Vienna, Austria ___ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
