Re: [pestlist] identification help sought

2011-12-21 Thread bugman22
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Whitney -

The beetles are not a direct threat to collections.  It looks like they are a 
click beetle (Elateridae), a type of darkling beetle (Tenebrionidae), and 
another one I can't quite make out.  The larva appears to be an Odd Beetle.  
It's one of those strange dermestid beetles, whose larvae feed on protein 
materials.

Tom Parker



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Hello all,
 
Yesterday, I discovered a pretty gnarly network of spiderwebs in one of our 
furniture storage areas and, upon cleaning them up, found three dead beetles 
and a live (!) larva. I am fairly new to insect ID and would love a little help 
identifying the bugs. I have attached some (admittedly pretty poor) photos and 
would appreciate any insight you might be able to share. 
 
Thanks very much!
Whitney Robertson
 
 
 
Whitney A. J. Robertson
Museum Collections Manager
The Society of the Cincinnati
 
Anderson House
2118 Massachusetts Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20008
T 202.785.2040 x429
F 202.785.0729
wrobert...@societyofthecincinnati.org
www.societyofthecincinnati.org
 

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[pestlist] RE: identification help sought

2011-12-21 Thread Whitney Robertson
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Apologies for the double email. I was having some formatting difficulties. 
Cheers!
WAJR

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Hello all,

Yesterday, I discovered a pretty gnarly network of spiderwebs in one of our 
furniture storage areas and, upon cleaning them up, found three dead beetles 
and a live (!) larva. I am fairly new to insect ID and would love a little help 
identifying the bugs. I have attached some (admittedly pretty poor) photos and 
would appreciate any insight you might be able to share. 

Thanks very much!
Whitney Robertson



Whitney A. J. Robertson
Museum Collections Manager
The Society of the Cincinnati

Anderson House
2118 Massachusetts Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20008
T 202.785.2040 x429
F 202.785.0729
wrobert...@societyofthecincinnati.org
www.societyofthecincinnati.org


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Re: [pestlist] can anyone id this bug?

2011-12-21 Thread Lou
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 a wingless female geometrid moth 

_Alsophila pometaria_ 

Fall
cankerworm. Male has wings, female wingless. 

_ _On Wed, 21 Dec 2011
15:01:50 -0500, Cindi Verser wrote: 

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 Anyone
have an idea or a best guess on an identification for this little guy or
gal? 
 
 I found three of these bugs on a statue in our courtyard
yesterday. One was busy laying eggs that appeared to be black or a very
dark grey color. It is about ½ inch long and when you view it sideways,
it is somewhat cocoon shaped. No variations in size or color among the
three bugs. They are light grey on the underside and they don't appear
to be able to fly. (Or didn't seem too inclined to do so in the 55
degree temperature we experienced here in Virginia yesterday) When I
attempted to scoop one up with a piece of paper, it rolled to one side
and acted like it was dead. This lasted only 15 seconds or so until I
guess it felt secure enough to move again. I haven't been able to match
it up to any bug guides. Could it be a fairly common bug in a life cycle
stage that isn't pictured in the guides? 
 
 CYNTHIA VERSER 
 

Museum Specialist 
 
 Department of Collections Management 
 
 The
Mariners' Museum 
 
 100 Museum Drive 
 
 Newport News, Virginia
23606 
 
 757-591-7760 
 

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RE: [pestlist] identification help sought

2011-12-21 Thread Tony Irwin
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If the larva is that of an Odd Beetle (I have some doubts), then it is a
potential threat to the collections if they contain silk or wool. It would
be worth checking any upholstery containing these materials for damage.
Tony

Dr A.G.Irwin, Natural History Department, Castle Museum Study Centre,
Shirehall, Market Avenue, Norwich NR1 3JQ, England.
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  Whitney -

  The beetles are not a direct threat to collections.  It looks like they
are a click beetle (Elateridae), a type of darkling beetle (Tenebrionidae),
and another one I can't quite make out.  The larva appears to be an Odd
Beetle.  It's one of those strange dermestid beetles, whose larvae feed on
protein materials.

  Tom Parker



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  Hello all,

  Yesterday, I discovered a pretty gnarly network of spiderwebs in one of
our furniture storage areas and, upon cleaning them up, found three dead
beetles and a live (!) larva. I am fairly new to insect ID and would love a
little help identifying the bugs. I have attached some (admittedly pretty
poor) photos and would appreciate any insight you might be able to share.

  Thanks very much!
  Whitney Robertson



  Whitney A. J. Robertson
  Museum Collections Manager
  The Society of the Cincinnati

  Anderson House
  2118 Massachusetts Avenue NW
  Washington, DC 20008
  T 202.785.2040 x429
  F 202.785.0729
  wrobert...@societyofthecincinnati.org
  www.societyofthecincinnati.org


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Re: [pestlist] identification help sought

2011-12-21 Thread bugman22
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Neither dermestids nor clothes moth larvae eat silk.  Silk has no keratin 
(animal protein) in it.  The text books are wrong.  If dermestids or clothes 
moth larvae damage silk, they inadvertently do so as they graze on the sizing.  
Silk threads are so fine, the larvae may damage them, but they are not 
feeding on the silken threads.  They simply chew through them as they forage 
of the sizing.  Wool, horse hair, whale baleen, porcupine quills, embroidery, 
etc. all have keratin and will support fabric pest larval development.

Tom Parker



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If the larva is that of an Odd Beetle (I have some doubts), then it is a 
potential threat to the collections if they contain silk or wool. It would be 
worth checking any upholstery containing these materials for damage.
Tony
 
Dr A.G.Irwin, Natural History Department, Castle Museum Study Centre,
Shirehall, Market Avenue, Norwich NR1 3JQ, England.
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Whitney -
 
The beetles are not a direct threat to collections.  It looks like they are a 
click beetle (Elateridae), a type of darkling beetle (Tenebrionidae), and 
another one I can't quite make out.  The larva appears to be an Odd Beetle.  
It's one of those strange dermestid beetles, whose larvae feed on protein 
materials.
 
Tom Parker



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Hello all,
 
Yesterday, I discovered a pretty gnarly network of spiderwebs in one of our 
furniture storage areas and, upon cleaning them up, found three dead beetles 
and a live (!) larva. I am fairly new to insect ID and would love a little help 
identifying the bugs. I have attached some (admittedly pretty poor) photos and 
would appreciate any insight you might be able to share. 
 
Thanks very much!
Whitney Robertson
 
 
 
Whitney A. J. Robertson
Museum Collections Manager
The Society of the Cincinnati
 
Anderson House
2118 Massachusetts Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20008
T 202.785.2040 x429
F 202.785.0729
wrobert...@societyofthecincinnati.org
www.societyofthecincinnati.org
 

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